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                    <text>GEORGE C.
HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA

APPENDIX
TO
SPENT STAGE EXPERIMENT
SUPPORT MODULE PROPOSAL
JUNE 1966

FOR NASA INTERNAL USE ONLY
National Aeronautics and Space Administration

MSFC - Form 454 (Revised September 1961)

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INTRODUCTION

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DESIGN GROUND RULES

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MISSION SEQUENCE

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VIBRATION AND ACOUSTIC TESTING

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ELECTRICAL SYSTEM SCHEMATICS

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INSTRUMENTATION PROGRAM AND
COMPONENTS

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HANDLING SEQUENCE (SSESM)

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MAINTENANCE CONCEPT

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TEST AND SIMULATION FACILITIES

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CREW FAMILIARIZATION PLAN

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INTRODUCTION

This Appendix contains supplementary material on selected
subjects which complements the MSFC Spent Stage Experiment Support
Module (SSESM) Proposal. Presented are the design ground rules
upon which the SSESM design is based, mission and mission task
sequences, structural testing criteria, electrical system schematics,
instrumentation equipment list and measurements, maintenance con­
cepts, handling procedures, and crew familiarization requirements.

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Z. 1

DESIGN GROUND RULES

MISSION DESIGN GROUND RULES
Z. 1.1

General

The Saturn IB Design Ground Rules, revision Z,
R-P&amp;VE-VAD-65-10 1, will apply except where specifically stated
otherwise.
a . Mission. - Mission objective of the S-IVB Spent Stage
Experiment is to activate the AS-Z09 S-IVB LH2 tank into a large
pressurized workshop in which astronauts can operate in a shirt-sleeve
e n v i r o n m e n t f o r 4 h o u r s p e r 1 6 - h o u r p e r i o d f o r ZO d a y s . M i n i m u m
change to the Saturn IB launch vehicle and Block II Command Service
Module (CSM) and maximum use of developed and qualified subsystems,
operational procedures and techniques should be employed whenever
possible. A design objective is to retain a readiness and capability on
the S-IVB stage and CSM for use on a standard Apollo mission.
(1) Orbit Conditions. - It will be determined if CSM
propulsion must be used for orbit circularization to meet the minimum
mission duration.
(Z) Experiment Definition. - The p r i m a r y experiment
is the passivation and activation of the S-IVB spent stage into a workshop
capable of supporting manned activity and the activation of the Spent
Stage Experiment Support Module (SSESM) and associated support systems.
A limited number of corollary experiments will be incorporated in the
S-IVB Spent Stage Experiment. Experiment equipment will be stowed or
installed inside and/or outside the SSESM during launch into orbit.
(3)

Orbital Operation

(a) The transposition and docking maneuver will be
accomplished after orbital confirmation and systems checkout.
(b) The planned Apollo docking procedure will be
followed which includes fold-out of the spacecraft Lunar Excursion
Module (LEM) adapter panels to their normal 45-degree deployment
position. It will be determined what the subsequent deployment will be.

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�(c) The S-IVB stage will stabilize and control its
own attitude during the CSM transposing and docking maneuver.
(d) The CSM will provide all stabilization and
control required for the spacecraft after the transposing and docking
maneuver is completed.
(e) Attitude control of the spacecraft will be pro­
vided when required for experiment operation and thermal control of
t h e w o r k s h o p . I t w i l l b e d e t e r m i n e d if o p e r a t i o n a l r e q u i r e m e n t s o t h e r
than those stated dictate attitude control for the spacecraft for specified
periods of operation.
(f) Propulsion capabilities for the CSM for orbital
abort will be maintained throughout the entire mission.
(g) After transposing and docking, the CSM will
provide all orbital guidance and earth communication.
(h) Service Module (SM) propellant loading will be
in accordance with mission requirements.
(i) Preparation for activation of the workshop will
be made after the transposing and docking maneuver and normal inflight
checkout have been accomplished.
(j) All equipment required for S-IVB LH2 tank
habitation and experiment utilization will be carried external to the
S-IVB LH2 tank at launch and assembled manually in orbit.
(k) LH2 tank will be vented prior to astronaut
egress from the air lock.
(1) T h e S - I V B L H 2 t a n k w i l l b e m a d e r e a d y f o r
occupancy by astronaut removal and storage of the LH2 tank dome hatch,
followed by attachment of a stowed flexible pressure sealing boot between
the aft end of the air lock and the LH2 tank dome hatch mounting surface.
(m) LH2 tank passivation functions will be tele­
metered via the Instrument Unit (IU) for ground monitoring.

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�(n) The LH2 interior tank wall will have a p r o ­
tective coating to inhibit burning of insulation if the tank wall is
penetrated by a micrometeoroid.
(o) Titanium spheres located within the LH2 tank
will either be removed or protective covers will be installed.
b. Configuration. - The Saturn IB spent stage experiment
launch vehicle will consist of an operational Saturn IB launch vehicle
and air lock unit. The Saturn IB launch vehicle is composed of the
S-IB stage, S-IVB stage, and IU. The first Saturn IB launch vehicle
utilized will be AS-209. Modifications to the Saturn and Apollo hardware
will be held to a minimum. Modification to AS-209 which could prevent
the accomplishment of its primary mission a s an Apollo backup will not
be permitted. Existing or off-the-shelf hardware will be used to mini­
mize cost, schedule, and development problems.
S-IVB/IU subsystems which represent a potential
hazard to the astronaut will be modified to provide a method(s) of
passivation.
Add-on type S-IVB subsystem passivation modifications
will be installed at Kennedy Space Center (KSC).
Subsystems to be investigated for passivation should
include, but not be restricted to, the following: Electrical System,
Hydraulic System, Stored Gases, Ordnance System, and Propellant.
c. Interface Requirements. - MSFC will control the
following interfaces in addition to the Saturn IB launch vehicle interfaces:
Air lock to CSM, Air lock to S-IVB Stage, Air lock to IU, Air lock to
SLA, Air lock to the Launch Complex, and Air lock to the Government
Furnished Support Equipment.
All interfaces will be controlled in accordance with the
Interface Control Documents (ICD's) in the Apollo Intercenter Interface
Control Document Log (1A01) and the Saturn Interface Control Document
Log (1S0 1).

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�2 . 1 . 2 Expe riments
a. Experiment Integration. - MSFC will integrate experi­
ments and develop interface specifications.
b. Weight. - The maximum weight of corollary experi­
ments and associated equipment will not exceed 1, 000 pounds.
2 . 1 . 3 Launch Facilities
The Saturn IB Spent Stage Experiment launch vehicle will
be capable of being launched from Launch Complexes (LC) 34 and 37B.
2 . 2 S-IB STAGE DESIGN GROUND RULES
Configuration of the S-IB stage for the Saturn IB Orbital Workshop
launch vehicle will be identical to the S-IB stage for the operational
Saturn IB launch vehicle.
2. 3 S-IVB STAGE DESIGN GROUND RULES
2-3.1

General

a. Configuration. - The S-IVB Orbital Workshop is an
operational S-IVB/IB stage, with minor modifications to support the
spent stage experiment.
b.

Interface Requirements

(1) Interface Tooling. - The a i r lock flexible bellows
adapter interface tooling (master mating gauge) will be manufactured
by the S-IVB stage contractor.
2 . 3 . 2 Structure (Propellant Containers)
a. The LH2 tank forward dome access opening will be
enlarged to a 43-inch diameter.

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�b.

Provisions will be made for the storage of the LH2

tank forward access dome hatch.
c. A hand valve will be provided in the LH2 tank forward
dome hatch, or in the near vicinity, for manually venting hydrogen gas
which is liberated from the LH2 tank insulation.
d. The LH2 tank forward dome will have provisions to
mate and make a pressure tight connection with the flexible bellows
adapter.
e. One hundred holes will be drilled and tapped at the
intersections of the waffle pattern grids in the LH2 tank for the pur­
pose of mounting equipment and experiments. Work will be accomplished
in accordance with MSFC SK10-8270.
f. An atmosphere circulation blower system will be
required within the LH2 tank.
2 . 3 . 3 Propulsion System (Propellant Evacuation)
a. Venting of the LH2 tank will be accomplished by the
nonpropulsive vent system.
b. Method (s) to be employed to evacuate residual and
flight performance reserve LOX will be determined.
c. Existing controls will be modified to accomplish
evacuating and/or venting of propellants.
2.3.4

Environmental Control System

The environmental control system which is located on the
air lock support structure will provide atmosphere supply to the workshop.
2 . 4 SSESM DESIGN GROUND RULES
2. 4. 1 General
The SSESM is defined as an independent air lock unit which
interconnects the CSM and the S-IVB LH2 tank and is mounted at the

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�LEM attach points in the LEM adapter. The SSESM will include docking
capability with the CSM and will provide environmental control system,
electrical power, and life support to the S-IVB spent stage for the entire
mission.
The air lock and docking structure will not be connected
to or transmit loads to the S-IVB stage hydrogen tank forward dome
during powered flight of the launch vehicle.
a. Configuration. - The SSESM will include an air lock,
docking structure, environmental control system, electrical power
system, and support equipment, as defined below. It will also include
the support structure for these systems, expendables, and experiment
stowage. The air lock will have the capability for independent and
integrated operation with the CSM and S-IVB Workshop.
b.

Interface Requirements

(1) Interface Tooling. - Manned Spacecraft Center
(MSC) and/or the spacecraft contractor will provide the air lock/ space­
craft interface tooling. The S-IVB stage contractor will provide the
air lock/S-IVB adapter interface tooling.
(2) Field Splice Connecting Hardware. - MSFC will
supply the connecting hardware for all air lock unit field splices. The
interface hardware will be specified and documented in vehicle assembly
documentation by the S-IB stage contractor. The hardware will be
delivered to Cape Kennedy in compliance with the vehicle assembly
schedule for AS-209.
c. Alignment. - Air lock unit to S-IVB forward bulkhead
alignment is not critical as the design of the flexible adapter will allow
for minor misalignment. Internal alignment of the air lock unit compo­
nents will be controlled by an MSFC drawing "to be released. " This
drawing will govern pertinent design documentation but will not be used
for manufacturing, procurement of hardware, inspection of manufactured
items or assembly.
d. Reliability. - The reliability goal for the SSESM has
not been established.

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�e . Weights. - The maximum weight of the SSESM and
corollary experiments is 10, 996 pounds. The control weight is
presently established as 9, 000 pounds without the carry-on experiments.
These weights are preliminary and will be revised.
2.4.2 Test Requirements
The complete SSESM test item and subsystem will be
functionally tested to verify the capability to meet the structural loads,
natural and induced environments expected during mission lifetime.
Human factor task tests will be performed to assure man/machine
compatibility. Electrical power requirements during ground test
operations will be provided from an external source.
2.4.3 Flight Mechanics
a . Natural Environments. - Design of the SSESM will be
based on applicable natural (space) environmental conditions, as given
in NASA reports TMX-53273 and NASA TMX-53023.
b. Induced Environments. - Design of the SSESM will be
based on applicable induced environmental conditions, as given in
MSFC Report IN-P&amp;VE-S-63-1.
2.4.4 Structure
a. General. - The operational air lock will provide
minimum environment perturbation on the CSM, micrometeorite pro­
tection as great as CSM, even lighting distribution, local voice communi­
cations, and operational sensing equipment to all systems required for
the operations of the workshop. The docking structure will make maxi­
mum use of existing CSM/LEM design and components. The a i r lock
will be capable of accommodating two suited astronauts, and a locking
through cycle will normally be done for two astronauts. The air lock
will allow for astronaut suit donning and doffing.
b. Emergency Facilities. - The air lock will provide for
emergency occupancy by two astronauts independent of the CSM.
c . Factors of Safety. - The following factors of safety
are the minimum values to be applied. They are to be used in addition

�to consideration of vibration magnification and shock given to surge
phenomena, coupling between stages and propulsion system vibrations.
Analytical investigations and test results will be used to validate the
actual factors of safety of hydraulic and pneumatic systems. Safety
factors different from those specified in the guide will require approval
by the procuring agency.
(1) General Structure
Manned Vehicle
Yield factor of safety
Ultimate factor of safety

s 1.10
= 1.40

(2) Hydraulic o r Pneumatic Systems
Flexible hose, tubing, ducts, and fittings less than
11/2 inches in diameter.
Proof pressure
Burst pressure

= 2.00 X limit pressure
= 4.00 X limit pressure

Flexible hose, tubing, ducts, and fittings 1 1/2 inches
in diameter and greater.
Proof pressure
Burst pressure

= 1. 50 X limit pressure
= 2. 50 X limit pressure

Actuating cylinders, valves, filters, switches.
Proof pressure
Burst pressure

= 1. 50 X limit pressure
= 2. 50 X limit pressure

Reservoirs
Proof pressure
Yield pressure
Burst pressure

= 1. 50 X limit pressure
= 1. 10 X limit pressure: 2. 00 X limit pressure

d. Pimensions. - The cylindrical air lock will be nominally
65 inches in diameter and a minimum of 110 inches long (gross length).
T h e l e n g t h m a y b e g r e a t e r t h a n 1 1 0 i n c h e s if n e c e s s a r y .

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�e.

Access. - The air lock will contain three hatches:
Top hatch (Apollo command module exit) identical

to LEM docking hatch.
Side hatch (exit to LEM adapter area).
Bottom hatch (entrance to S-IVB stage hydrogen
tank) will be 48 inches in diameter. All equipment for the workshop
will pass through the air lock.
f. Docking Structure. - The top of the a i r lock and
support structure will include a docking structure compatible with the
Block II Apollo spacecraft and similar to the LEM docking adapter.
The docking structure will be capable of carrying all loads induced by
the SM propulsion system a s a result of orbit change maneuvers in
addition to docking loads.

g . Adapter (air lock/S-IVB). - Provisions will be made
for a pres sure-tight connection to the S-IVB LH2 forward dome mounting
surface after removal of the dome cover which provides a pressure
environment for passage from the air lock to the hydrogen tank.
h. Equipment Support and Storage. - The air lock support
structure will be capable of supporting all experiment and support
equipment as well as the air lock. Equipment to be used inside the
S-IVB hydrogen tank during operation in orbit will be stowed on the
air lock unit during launch.
i. Umbilicals. - Two pressure suit loop umbilicals will
be provided in the air lock. Umbilical length will be sufficient to allow
the astronaut to move to the S-IVB common bulkhead.
j. Lightning Protection. - The air lock unit will have the
capability to receive and discharge lightning without damage to the
vehicle. For additional information see Kennedy Space Center policy
memorandum dated November 30, 1964.
k. Electrostatic Compatibility. - It will be determined if
a positive shorting system is required to make the air lock/docking
mechanism and CSM compatible during docking maneuver.

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�2 . 4 . 5 Propulsion System
There is no propulsion system associated with the air
lock unit.
2.4.6

Astrionic Systems
a.

Electrical System

(1) Battery power will provide a maximum of
ele c t rical power with an average of 750 watts for 4 hours/16-hour
cycle for Environmental Control System (ECS), housekeeping, scientific
purposes, and lighting requirements.
(2) Provisions will be made for electrical and i n s t r u ­
mentation support for activities inside the S-IVB LH2 tank.
(3) General lighting requirements will be determined
and provided for the air lock and the S-IYB LH2 tank.
(4) Necessary electrical controls and displays of
critical S-IVB spent stage parameters will be centralized on panels to
be located within the air lock.
b.

Instrumentation System

( 1 ) B a s i c i n s t r u m e n t a t i o n w i ll a l l o w m o n i t o r i n g o f
air lock environmental control system and housekeeping during pad
checkout, ascent, and orbit. Basic system does not include visual
coverage or data storage.
(2)

Telemetry will utilize existing IU antenna system.

(3) System checkout and procedures will be compatible
with present system.

CSM.

(4) Vehicle-to-ground voice communication will be by
Local voice communication will be by spacecraft system.

(5) Lighting requirements for television o r film cameras
will be defined if the requirement exists.
(6)

It will be determined if monitoring of experiments i s

required.
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�2.4.7 Environmental Control System (ECS)
Flight qualified Gemini, Saturn, or Apollo hardware
components will be used whenever expedient. Refurbished flight
components are acceptable.
a. Function. - The environmental control system will
provide atmosphere supply to the S-IVB LH2 tank and the air lock.
b.

Display. - ECS displays will be located in the air lock

c.

C o n t r o l s . ••

and LH2 tank.

(1) ECS controls for the a i r lock and LH2 tank will be
located in the air lock.
(2) The pressure in the a i r lock may be reduced to
vacuum from the air lock or LH2 tank with the aft hatch closed.
(3) Dump valves will be provided at the fore, aft, and
side hatches of the air lock.
(4) The a i r lock and LH2 tank pressures will have the
capability of being equalized from the LH2 tank.
(5) The a i r lock will have the capability of being
pressurized or unpressurized manually.
d. Atmosphere Requirements. - The ECS will be com­
posed of four 20-cubic-foot spheres of metabolic oxygen for pressurization of the LH2 tank and a i r lock and one 3. 5-cubic-foot LEM sphere
for resupply of the Portable Life Support System (PLSS). The ECS
will permit:
(1) Two men to work in the LEM adapter, air lock, and
S-IVB hydrogen tank areas for an average of 4 hours per 16-hour period
for 20 days.
(2) 1.25 charges of the stage hydrogen tank (approxi­
mately 10, 000 cubic feet) and for 30 pressurizations of the air lock.

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�(3)

Leakage rate will be approximately 30 pounds per

(4)

Fifteen hours of

day.
extravehicular activity by two

men, or a total of 30 manhours.
(5)

Temperature:

6 5 + 25 ° F w i t h m i n i m a l t e m p e r a t u r e

oscillation.
(6) Pressure:

3. 5 to 5. 5 psia.

(7)

Relative humidity: 30-70 percent.

(8)

Carbon dioxide:

0. 1 psia.

2.4.8 Human Engineering
The human engineering design principles presented in
MSFC-STD-267A will be used. Criteria in this document will be used
as guidelines,
2.4.9 GSE
a.

MSFC will provide all necessary electrical GSE.

b. Maximum use will be made of existing Saturn IB launch
complex facilities and equipment.
c. Checkout will be conducted in accordance with MSFC
document SR-QUAL-64-13, Space Vehicle Stage Analysis and Checkout
Guidelines, dated May 1, 1964.
d. System checkout equipment and procedures will be
compatible with present systems. Systems must also conform to safety
regulations of KSC operations.
e.

No new umbilical plates or swing arms will be permitted.

f. Necessary controls and displays for critical parameters
will be provided in the launch complex.

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�2.4.10 Weight and Balance
Prior to shipment to KSC, measurements will be made to
determine weight and 3-axis center of gravity.
2.4.11 Crew Training Requirements
Flight crew training will be provided for the activation of
the SSESM, passivation/activation of the S-IVB LH2 tank and installation,
and operation of the corollary experiments.
2. 5 INSTRUMENT UNIT DESIGN GROUND RULES
2. 5. 1 Configuration
Modification of the IU to support the spent stage experi­
ments will be held to an absolute minimum.
2.6 CREW SYSTEM GROUND RULES
The following crew systems criteria reflect astronaut requirements
and limitations which have impact on hardware design and mission
planning:
a . The normal location of the crew when not engaged in
S-IVB Workshop, extravehicular, or experimental tasks will be in the
CM.
b. The crew will be periodically rotated in their tasks
during the mission.
c.

Two crewmen at a time will perform activities outside

the CM.
d. Pressure suits will be worn by the astronauts when
entering a pressurized area for the first time.
e. The pressure suit umbilical will not be disconnected
in a vacuum on the AS-209 mission.
f. Voice communications shall be maintained at all times
between the task performers and the CM.

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�g. One crew member shall remain within the CM.at all
times except in an emergency.
h. The astronauts will not require a maneuvering unit for
activities within the Spacecraft LEMAdapter (SLA). A Portable Life
Support System (PLSS) and tethers will be utilized for SLA activities.
i. The crew will maintain two separate compartments at
all times as a safety precaution.
j. A 10-minute portable oxygen supply is provided each
spac-e-suited astronaut.
k. The normal eating, sleeping, personal hygiene, and
other station-keeping tasks will be performed in the CM.
1. After the initial entry to a pressurized compartment,
and the compartment is verified operational, subsequent entries to the
pressurized compartment may be conducted in shirt sleeves.
m. The Block II Apollo full pressure suit will be utilized.
n. The water-cooled undergarment will be used for
astronaut thermal control when the PLSS is required. Three of these
will be stored in the air lock.
o. The suit pressure will nominally be 3. 5 psi above
ambient when the suit is pressurized.
p.

The nominal suit inlet temperature will be 50°F.

q.

The nominal suit atmosphere will be 100 percent 02.

r.

A thermal outergarment is required for all activities

in vacuum.
s . The optimum size access opening for astronaut transfer
while wearing the PLSS and thermal outergarment is 38. 5 inches.
t. The two PLSS units normally carried in the LEM will
be stored in the air lock. A third PLSS is stowed in the CM. The PLSS
will be used for emergency operations or as an alternate mode to the
suit umbilical.
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�u. Due to sizing, hygiene, and drying requirements, and
to provide the astronaut with immediate access to a space pressure
suit, three additional pressure suits will be provided. Two of the suits
will be stored in the air lock.
v.

Tethers will be available for all activities outside the

air lock.
w. Two pressure suit umbilicals, in addition to those
provided in the CM, are located in the air lock. The air lock suit
umbilicals will reach all parts of the interior LH2 tank.
x. A habitable environment is provided in the pressurized
air lock with the following nominal atmospheric conditions:
(1)

100 percent Oz

(2)

5 psia

(3)

70° F

(4)

30-50 percent relative humidity

y. The air lock has sufficient volume to accommodate two
men, pressure suited and pressurized, and the storage of their equip­
ment. Each man can don and doff the pressure suit, thermal garment,
and PLSS in the air lock.
z. The air lock pressure will nominally be 5 psia 02
upon reaching orbit.
aa. The air lock will be secured to the LH2 tank bulkhead
opening during orbit by the astronauts.
/

bb. The air lock and LH2 tank atmospheric pressures may
be equalized at any time from the air lock.
cc. The air lock will provide access to the LH2 tank as
well as the SLA.

less tools.

dd. The manhole cover bolts will be removed by reactionConventional tools will be available as backup.

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�ee.

The LH2 tank is vented prior to crew egress from the

ff.

T h e L.H 2 t a n k w i l l n o t b e p r e s s u r i z e d u n t i l a t t a c h m e n t

CM.

to air lock. •
gg. The LH2 tank and air lock are at vacuum when the
manhole cover is removed.
hh. The LH2 tank and air lock atmosphere must be
monitored whenever astronauts are present. Capability must be pro­
vided to monitor atmosphere both from the CM and locally to provide
direct readout and redline alarm. The following must be measured
constantly for shirt-sleeve operations:
(1)

COz Partial Pressure

(2) T o t a l P r e s s u r e
(3) T e m p e r a t u r e
(4) Humidity
ii. Vehicle attitude control may be required for thermal
control inside the LH2 tank.

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�SECTION 3.0

MISSION SEQUENCE

3. 1 GENERAL
This section presents a general and detailed sequence for each
event currently defined in the design reference mission. In addition,
a typical crew time line summary is presented for the first few mission
days.
3.2 GENERAL MISSION SEQUENCE
Presented in Figures 3.2-1 through -6 are the initial releases of
the S-IVB spent stage experiment design reference mission general
sequence for use in analysis and planning. While this sequence is
based upon the latest available conceptual design information, it is
expected that subsequent design effort will dictate numerous changes
to the sequence and provide more data for expanding the sequence to a
more detailed level. These changes and additions will be reflected in
subsequent releases as necessary to keep the sequence accurate and
current during the course of this program.
This design reference mission sequence covers the period from
the initiation of launch vehicle countdown through the completion of
the 20-day S-IVB spent stage experiment. Data presented herein are
limited primarily to gross level vehicle/experiment peculiar sequence
with such information as the launch vehicle normal countdown and
flight sequences being referenced.
3. 3

DETAILED MISSION SEQUENCE

Each event scheduled for days 1, 2, and 20 is sequenced in detail
on Figures 3.3-1 through 3.3-26. This information supplements the
summary presented in paragraph 3. 2. Additional events for days 3
through 19 will be defined as mission plans become better defined.
3. 4

CREW SCHEDULE SUMMARY

Data are presented in Figures 3.4-1 and 3.4-2 which define a
typical crew schedule for each mission day through five. Specific
experiments have not been selected; therefore, only gross times were
included in the schedule for experiment activity. The following data
describe the assumptions and legend:

�a. Astronauts sleep at same time, 7.5 hours/day - divided into
two periods of 6 and 1 . 5 hours nap. Time between sleep varies from
6 and 10 hours.
b. Two meals and one snack per day - 45 minutes per meal and
30 minutes per snack.
c.

A CSM check every 8 hours, + 1 hour.

d.

Periodic safety check by each astronaut each 12 hours.

e . Two personal hygiene periods of 30 minutes each - one period
after each sleep.
f. For each 4-hour period (max) in tank, a period of 12 hours
out is required. Two astronauts maximum in tank at one time.

3-2

�Prelauncl

1.

FIGURE 3.2-1. - AS -209 DESIGN REFERENCE MISSION SEQUENCE

Complete Manual Equipment
Check

2.

Install Airlock/Workshop
Batteries

3.

Checkout S age Pa3si&lt; ation
Capability

4.

Airlock Purge and Leakchecl

5.

Pressurize Airlock

6.

'•ox Sphere Purge and
Ueakcheck

7.

Gox Sphere Prepressurizatic n
( i 50C p s i )

8.

Gox Sphere Pressurization
(3000 psi)

9.

Airlock/'A'orkshop Internal
Power Mode on

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-~0

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-l

-8

-4

HOURS

NOTE:

I' o r a . y p i c a l d e t a i l e d S a t u r n I B c o u n t d o w n s e q u e n c e
see MSFC drawing I )M3T0?.

C
LO

�Li'toff thru S-TV13 "utoff

j. .

S-IB Ignition

2.

Liftoff

3.

S-IB Boost

4.

S-IB Cutoff

5.

S-IB/S-IVB Separation

6.

S-IVB Ignition

7.

S-IVB Boost

8.

S-IVB Cutoff

FIGURE 3.2-2. - AS-209 DESIGN REFERENCE MISSION SEQUENCE

10

MINUTES
NO""E:

I

For a typical Saturn IB Flight sequence
-see M S F C d r a w i n g I Q M 3 0 1 5 7 .

�Day 1
1.

S-IVB Engine Cutoff

2.

Confirm Orbit Systems
Check

3.

LH2 Tank Venting

4.

box Tank Passivation

5.

Separate and Dock

6.

CM Experiments

7.

Withdraw Docking Probe

8.

Enter Airlock and
System Check
Stage Passivation Airlock Area

10.

Depressurize Airlock

11.

Stage Passivation - SLA
Area

12.

Remove &amp; Store Bulkhead

13.

Connect Bellows

14.

Pressurize Airlock

15.

Return to CM

I
LP

FIGURE 3.2-3. - AS-209 DESIGN REFERENCE MISSION SEQUENCE

�Day 2

FIGURE 3.2-4. - AS-209 DESIGN REFERENCE MISSION SEQUENCE

Enter A1

Depress Airlock

Transfer and Install Equipme
from Airlock Storage to
Workshop

Transfer and Install Equip­
ment from SLA to Workshop

Workshop Experiments in
Lnpressurized Atmosphere

Workshop Pressuriz.ation

Return to C'.

i—
0

ours

�Day 3 thru 19

FIGURE 3.2-5. - AS-209 DESIGN REFERENCE MISSION SEQUENCE

A detailed sequence on Day 3 thru Day 19
will be generated when the detailed list of
approved experiments becomes available.

�Day 20

FIGURE 3.2-6. - AS-209 DESIGN REFERENCE MISSION SEQUENCE

1.

Enter Workshop

2.

Complete Workshop Experiment

3.

Secure Equipment in Workshop

4.

Transfer Experiment Containers
to CM

5.

Enter CM

6.

Install Drogue Assembly

7.

Install CM Hatches and System
Check

8.

Ready Earth Return

T3D

15

30

45

Minutes

60

75

90

I
105

120

�Day 1
T——

Event 3

FIGURE 3 . 3 - 1 . - AS-209 DESIGN REFERENCE MISSION SEQUENCE

—

LH^ Tank Venting

Hours

�D.y

1

Evtr.r

4

F I G U R E 3.3-2. - AS-209 DESIGN REFERENCE MISSION SEQUENCE
Man

Sub-Eve nt

LOX Tank Venting

T h e m e t h o d of L O X t a n k p a s s i v a t i o n h a s n o t y e t
been determined.

Based on Recent proposals,

however, it is assumed that passivation can be
accomplished within a three to four hour time.

v.

u&gt;
•—&lt;
o

»*

•

.

!

f

*

t

�Day 1

Even: 7

Sub-Eve nt

OJ

1.

Open CM Dump Valve

2.

Remove CM Pressurization Hatch

3.

Store CM Pressurization Hatch

4.

Remove CM Thermal Hatch

5.

Stow CM Thermal Hatch

6.

Remove Docking Probe

7.

Stow Docking Probe

8.

Remove Drogue Assembly

9.

Stow Drogue Assembly

10.

FIGURE 3.3-3. - AS-209 DESIGN REFERENCE MISSION SEQUENCE
Man

Withdraw Docking Probe

Secure Final Docking Latches

10

15
MINUTES

20

25

30

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fIGURE 3.3-4.

Sub-Event

Man

1.

O p e n A i r l o c k I n t e r l o c k Dump
Va l v e

2

2.

O p e n AL F o r w a r d H a t c h

2

3.

Enter Airlock

2
3

4.

D i s c o n n e c t CM S u i t U m b i l i c a l
a n d C o n n e c t AL S u i t U m b i l i c a l

2
3

5.

Communications Check

2
3

6.

C l o s e CM P r e s s u r e H a t c h

1

7.

C l o s e F o r w a r d AL P r e s s u r e H a t c h

3

8.

C l o s e CM I n t e r l o c k Dump V a l v e

1

9.

C l o s e AL I n t e r l o c k Dump V a l v e

3

Verify Operation Complete

1
2
3

10.

AS-209 DESIGN REFERENCE MISSION SEQUENCE

Enter Airlock and Systems Check

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8

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S u b - E v i nr
1.

Activate Passivation Panel

2.

Activate Switch to Vent Engine
Start Bottle, Engine Pneumatic
Bottle, Cold Helium Spheres

3.

Activate Switch to Vent Stage
Pneumatic Helium Bottle

4.

A c t i v a t e S w i t c h t o V e n t APS
Helium

5.

Monitor Pressure Decay on a l l
Bottles

6.

P r e p a r e f o r EVA ( S u i t s ,
PLSS, e t c . )

Ma n

STAGE PASSIVATION - AIRLOCK AREA

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35

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FIGURE 3.3-6. - AS-209 DESIGN REFERENCE MISSION SEQUENCE
Stage Passivation - SLA Area

Man

Sub E\ i nt
1.

Open Airlock Side Hatch

2

2.

Translate to SLA Area

2

3.

Deactivate S&amp;A Device

2

4.

Check LH-, Pressure and
Vent if Needed

2

5.

Translate to Airlock and
Enter

2

6.

Close Airlock Side Door

1

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FIGURE 3.3-7. - AS-209 DESIGN REFERENCE MISSION SEQUENCE

Sub-Evi nt

1.

Open Airlock Aft Hatch

2.

Attach Lights

4.

Remove Reactionless Tool from
Storage

5.

Loosen 72 Bolts

6.

Stow Reactionless Tool

7.

Remove Airlock Umbilical, Open
Airlock Side Door and Translate
to SIVB Forward Area

8.

Remove Bolts and Place in
Utility Bag

9.

Remove Bulkhead and Slide out
to number 3

10.

Secure Bulkhead to Cable Rack

11.

Return to Airlock and Connect
Airlock Umbilical

Man

Remove and Store S-IVB Bulkhead Cover

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20

30
MINUTES

40

50

60

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FIGURE 3. 3-8. -

S u b -Evi nt

1.

Release Bellows from Retainers
and Allign at S-IVB Tank
Opening

2.

Thread 72 Bolts to Connect
Bellows to Tank

3.

Remove Reactionless Tool from
Storage

4.

Tighten Bolts

5.

Store Reactionless Tool

A S - 2 0 9 D E S I G N KEl- E K E N C E M I S S ! J N S E Q U E N C E

Ma n

Connect Bellows

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20
MINUTES

30

40

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13

FIGURE 3.3-9. -

Sub-Evi nt
1.

Open Airlock Interlock Valve

2.

Open CM Interlock Valve

3.

Open Airlock Forward Pressure
Hatch

4.

Open and Stow CM Pressure Hatch

5.

Pass CM Umbilicals into Airlock

6.

Disconnect Airlock Umbilicals
and Stow Connect CM Umbilicals

7.

Enter CM

8.

Close Airlock Forward Hatch

9.

Check Interlock Valve Position

10.

Install and Close CM Pressure
Hatch

11.

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AS-209 DESIGN REFERENCE MISSUN SEOuKiMGF
Return t o CM

Check Interlock Valve Position
*&gt;•

10
MINUTES

12

�Day 2

Even: 1

FIGURE 3.3-10. - AS-209 DESIGN REFERENCE MISSION SFOUENCE

Sub-Event
1.

O p e n CM I n t e r l o c k Dump V a l v e

2

2.

R e m o v e CM P r e s s u r e H a t c h

2

3.

S t o r e CM P r e s s u r e H a t c h

1

4.

Open Airlock Interlock Valve

2

5.

Open Airlock Forward Hatch

2

6.

Enter Airlock

2
3

7.

Connect Airlock Suits Umbilical s 2
R e m o v e CM S u i t s U m b i l i c a l
3

8.

Check Communications

9.

I n s t a l l CM H a t c h

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1
2
3
1

10.

Close Airlock Forward Pressure
Hatch

3

11.

C l o s e CM I n t e r l o c k Dump V a l v e

1

12.

Enter Airlock

Man

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Close Airlock Interlock Valve
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12

MINUTES

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Sub-Evt nt
1.

Install Temporary lights

Ma n

AS-209 L)ES.REFERENCE MISS.ON Sb'UuENCE
T r a n s f e r and I n s t a l l E q u i p m e n t f r o m A i r l o c k S t o r a g e t o Workshop

2

3
2.

Attach Tethers

2

3
3.

T r a n s f e r and i n s t a l l H a n d h o l d s

2

3
4.

Transfer and install Tool Kit

2

3
5.
6.
7.

Transfer and install six
Equipment Racks
T r a n s f e r a n d i n s t a l l L i g h t s and
Fixtures
T r a n s f e r a n d i n s t a l l two F a n s

2

3
2

3
2

3

20

40

60

80

MINUTES
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F I G U R E 3 . 3 - 1 2 . - A S - 2 0 9 L»ES'. . . N R E F E R E N C E N E S S I J N S E O U ' E N C F
Man

Sub-Evi nt

1.

Open Aft Airlock Hatch

2

2.

Remove L i g h t B a n k F r o m A i r f l o w
Storage

3

3.

Enter Workshop

2

4.

Transfer Light t o Workshop

3

5.

C l a m p L i g h t t o LH„ T a n k F u e l
Probe

2

Workshop Entry - I n s t a l l Temporary Lights

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F I G U R E 3 . 3 - 1 3 . - A S - 2 0 9 U E S ! ..M KEir E K E N C t : MESS. J N S F U G K N C K

Sub-Event
1.

Remove Tethers from Airlock
Storage and Hand t o number 2

2.

Attach Tethers to Probe

3.

Enter Workshop

4.

Attach Tethers t o S-IVB Aft

5.

Attach Second Tether

Attach Tethers

Man

2
3

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FIGURE 3. 3-14. -

A S - 2 0 9 L&gt;ES . W K E F E K E . V C E M I S S ! J N S F O u K N G F
Transfer and Install Handholds

Ma n

Sub Evt nt
1.

Enter Airlock (From Workshop)

3

2.

Remove H a n d l o a d s f r o m A i r l o c k
Storage and Transfer to number
2

3

3.

Attach Handholds on Probe

2

4.

Transfer and Permanently Attacl
Handholds

2

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4
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FIGURE 3.3-15. - AS-209 DESV.N KEr EKENCfc: M:SS; JN SKOOfWLf

Sub-Evt nr

1.

Remove Tool Kit From Airlock
Storage and Transfer to
number 2

2.

Attach Tool Kit to Probe

3.

Transfer t o Permanent Tool Kit
Location and Install

Man

Transfer and Install Tool Kit

10

MINUTES

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FIGURE 3. 3-16. -

AS-209 DESIGN REFERENCE M.SS'.J N SKOO K NCF

Transfer and I n s t a l l Six Equipment Racks

Man

Sub-Eve nr
1.

Remove Equipment Racks from
Airlock Storage and Transfer
t o number 2

3

2.

Attach each Rack t o Probe
(Temporary)

2

3.

Enter Airlock to Assist
number 2

3

4.

Install Racks - one at a time

2
3

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20

30

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Sab-Ev». nr
1.

E n t e r A i r l o c k ( f r o m Workshop)

2.

Remove L i g h t s a n d F i x t u r e s
from Airlock Storage and hand
t o number 2 - o n e a t a t i m e

3.

Attach to Probe

4.

E n t e r Workshop t o A s s i s t

5.

Install Lights and Fixtures
One a t a t i m e t o p e r m a n e n t
location

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Transfer and Install Lights and Fixtures

2

3

20

10

MINUTES

30

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FIGURE 3. 3-18. - AS-209 UES'.'..N KEi E HENCE MISS1JN SE(jO EHCF

Sub-Evi nt
1.

Enter Airlock (from Workshop)

2.

Remove F a n s f r o m A i r l o c k
Storage and Transfer to
number 2

3.

Attach Fans to Probe

4.

Enter Workshop t o Assist

5.

Attach to Permanent Locations

Man

T r a n s f e r a n d I n s t a l l Two F a n s

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10

12

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Sub-Evi nt
1.

Man

K E r E k r . V t K M^SSI J N S h ' U u K W L F
T r a n s f e r a n d I n s t a l l L i g h t s and F i x t u r e s

E n t e r A i r l o c k ( f r o m Workshop)
Remove L i g h t s a n d F i x t u r e s
from Airlock Storage and hand
t o number 2 - o n e a t a t i m e

3.

Attach to Probe

4.

E n t e r Workshop t o A s s i s t

5.

Install Lights and Fixtures One a t a t i m e t o p e r m a n e n t
location

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3

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10

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Sub-Evx nt
1.

Enter Airlock (from Workshop)

2.

Remove Fans from Airlock
Storage and Transfer to
number 2

3.

Attach Fans to Probe

4.

Enter Workshop to Assist

5.

Attach to Permanent Locations

Man

Transfer and Install Two Fans

2

3

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8

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Sub Evi nr

Man

AS-209 UES

.N KEr E KE.VCt; lMISS. JN Sb'UuKNCF

Transfer and Install Equipment from SLA to Workshop

Transfer and Install three
Equipment Storage Assemblies
(ESAs)
Transfer and Install one
Scientific Equipment Pod.

16

32

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Sub -Evi nt
1.

Enter Airlock

Man

Transfer and Install Three Equipment Storage Assemblies (ESA's)

3
2

2.

Disconnect Airlock Umbilicals

3.

Open Airlock Side Door and
Translate to SLA

4.

Unlatch ESA and Transfer to
Airlock Access Hatch

5.

Attach Tethers to ESA (both
ends)

6.

Transfer ESA to Airlock (to
Workshop Opening)

7.

Enter Airlock

8.

Enter Workshop and Translate
to Point of EAS Attachment

9.

Move ESA to Attachment Point

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3

2

3

2

3
10.

Translate to ESA Attachment

11.

Attach ESA to Probe (Permanent

2

3
12.

Return to Airlock

2

3
13.

Repeat 2 thru 11 twice for
2 ESA's

2

3

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60

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Sub-Evt nt
1.

Enter Airlock

2.

Enter SLA

3.

Unlatch SEP and Transfer to
Airlock Side Hatch

4.

Attach Tethers •* Both Ends

5.

Pass SEP into Airlock (to
Workshop Opening)

o&gt;6.

Man

Transfer and Install One Scientific Equipment Pod (SEP)

Enter Airlock

-o
7.

Enter Workshop - Move to SEP
Attach Point

8.

Move SEP to Attach point

2

3
9.

10.

Enter Workshop and Move to SEP
Attach Point
Remove Equipment from POD

2

3
11.

Install Equipment on racks

2

3

12

MINUTES

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Man

S e c u r e Equipment i n Workshop

Sab-Evi nt
1.

S e c u r e E q u i p m e n t i n Workshop
Aft Area

2
3

2.

T r a n s l a t e T o Workshop F o r w a r d
Area

2
3

3.

Secure Forward Area Equipment

2
3

4.

Enter Airlock

2
3

5.

Close Airlock Aft Hatch

3

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Sub-Evi nr
1.

Open Forward Airlock Interlock
Valve

2.

Open CM Interlock Valve

3.

Open Airlock Forward Pressure
Hatch

4.

Open CM Pressure Hatch and
Stow

5.

Remove CM Umbilicals from
Storage and Pass into Airlock

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Man

.N KEIEKENOE MISS. J N St'OOEiMCE

Transfer Equipment Containers to CM

Connect CM Umbilicals

7.

Disconnect Airlock Umbilicals
and Store

8.

Transfer Experiment Containers
to CM
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15

20

25

30

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Sub-Evi nt
1.

Enter CM

2.

Close Airlock Forward Pressure
Hatch

3.

Verify Interlock Valve Closed

4.

Release Manual Docking Latches

.N REFERENCE MISS1JN SEOUENCE
Enter CM

10
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Sub -Evt nr

1.

Remove Drogue Assembly from
CM Storage

2.

Install Drogue Assembly

Man

Install Drogue

MINUTES

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FIGURE 3 .3 - 2 6 . - AS-209 DESIGN REFERENCE MISSION SEQUENCE

Sub-Event
1.

Remove CM Thermal Hatch from
Storage

2.

Install CM Thermal Hatch

3.

Remove CM Pressure Hatch from
Storage

Man

4.

Install CM Pressure Hatch

5.

Disconnect Umbilicals and Stow

6.

Remove PGA Suits

7.

Review Tasks Preformed Checklist

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1

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4. I

VIBRATION AND ACOUSTIC TESTING

ACOUSTIC TEST PROCEDURES
4. 1. 1

Requirements

Acoustic environmental qualification testing will be
performed in a reverberation chamber. Requirements are outlined in
Table 4. 1 -1.
4.1.2

Reverberation Chamber Testing

a. The test chamber volume shall be such that the physical
b u l k of t h e i t e m u n d e r t e s t w i l l n o t i n t e r f e r e w i t h t h e g e n e r a t i o n a n d
maintenance of test conditions.
b. The sound pressure field shall be measured with the
test item or a suitable dummy mounted in the test chamber. Acoustic
measurements shall be made in proximity to each major, dissimilar
s u r f a c e of t h e t e s t s p e c i m e n . T h e o v e r a l l s o u n d p r e s s u r e l e v e l ,
reduced by six decibels, shall be introduced into the test chamber and
adjusted to conform with the specified acoustic spectrum. The time
required to conduct the survey shall be less than one-fourth of the
specified test time, unless the specimen is replaced with a dummy.
The sound pressure level and the survey time are reduced to avoid
possible premature damage to the test item. The microphone shall be
moved around the test item maintaining a distance of approximately
1 inches from the specimen. The measurements made within this
volume shall then be averaged and the extreme values shall be noted.
c.
When (b) is accomplished, the sound pressure level
shall be raised to the design specification value and the test shall
commence.
4.1.3

Test Spectrum
The acoustic test levels shall be those in the specification.

4.1.4

Test Duration

Generally the test shall consist of a high-level exposure,
immediately followed by a low-level exposure. Time durations for
the high- and low-level exposures are given in the specification.

4-1

�TABLE 4. 1-1. - EXTERNAL AND INTERNAL ACOUSTIC SPECIFICATIONS

External Sound Pressure
Levels
One-third Octave
Band Geometric
Mean Freq.
(cps)
5.0
6. 3
8.0
10.0
12. 5
16.0
20. 0
25.0
31.5
40. 0
50. 0
63.0

Internal Sound Pressure
Levels

Low
Level
(dB)

High
Level
(dB)

Not Applicable

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o
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100. 0
125. 0
160. 0
200. 0
250.0
315.0
400. 0
500. 0
630. 0
800.0
1000.0
1250.0
1600.0
2000.0
2500.0
3150.0
4000.0
5000.0
6300.0
8000.0

Overall Sound
Pressure Level
4-2

Not Applicable

High
Level
&lt;dB)

Low
Level
(dB)

106. 5
109.0
112. 5
115. 5
118. 0
121. 5
124. 5
127. 5
130. 5
133.0
136.0
139.0
139. 5
139. 5
140.0
140.0
140.0
140. 5
140. 5
141.0
138. 5
136. 5
135.0
134.0
133.0
131.0
129. 5
127.0
124. 5
121. 5
118.0
115.0
111.0
107. 5

100. 0
102. 5
106. 0
109. 0
111.5
115-5
118. 0
121.0
124. 0
126. 5
129. 5
132. 5
133.0
133. 0
133. 5
133- 5
133. 5
134. 0
134.0
134. 5
132.0
130. 0
128. 5
127. 5
126. 5
124. 5
123.0
120. 5
118. 0
115. 0
111.5
108. 5
104. 5
101.0

151.0

144.5

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STAGE:

S-IVB

MAJOR ZONE:

15, Station 1541 to Station 1663 - The portion of
the S-IVB Stage lying between the plane of juncture
of the LH^ container cylindrical section with the
forward LH^ bulkhead and the plane of the field
splice with the IU.

One-Third Octave Band Acoustical Specifications in dB re 2 X 10
High Level

3.0 Minutes

Low Level

15.0 Minutes

Test Duration:

N M

�4.1.4

Tolerances

a . The test time shall be within -0 to + 10 percent of the
time set forth in the test specifications.
b. For reverberation chamber testing, the overall
sound pressure level and the individual one-third octave band, sound
pressure levels shall be within -0 to +4 decibels of the levels set
forth in the test specification with the test specimen installed.
4. 2

VIBRATION AND SHOCK CRITERIA
4. 2. 1 General

Preliminary flight vibration and shock criteria for the
S-IVB Spent Stage Experiment SSESM are presented below^ and in
Figures 4.2-1 through 4.2-10. Vibration criteria are presented for
(1) Saturn IB primary structure input to the SSESM assembly, and
(2) primary unloaded SSESM structure. Detailed individual component
vibration test specifications will be derived as required.
4. 2. 2 Air lock Assembly Shock and Vibration Criteria
a.

Sinusoidal Vibration Criteria (see Figure 4.2-1)
5 to 14 cps @ .044 In. Double Amp. Disp.
14 to 50 cps @ 0.44 g's peak
50 to 111 cps @ 0. 0034 In. Double Amp. Disp.
111 to 600 cps @ 2.2 g's peak
600 to 2000 cps @ -1 g's Peak/Octave
2000 cps @ 0.46 g's peak

b. Random Vibration Criteria (see Figure 4.2-2).- Shall
consist of three minutes of random noise over the frequency band 5 to
2000 cps at the following input levels:
5 cps @ 0.000204 g2/cps
5 to 35 cps @ 6 db/octave
35 to 400 cps @ 0.01 g2/cps
400 to 2000 cps @ -2 db/octave
2000 cps @ 0.00343 g2/cps
Composite Level =3.5 Grmg

4-4

�c.

Assembly Shock Criteria

(1) Lift-off and separation shock pulse shall consist of
a 10-g half sine wave for a duration of 10 milliseconds.
(2) Docking shock pulse shall consist of a 20-g half sine
w a v e f o r a d u r a t i o n of 1 0 m i l l i s e c o n d s .
4.2.3 SSESM Unloaded Structure Vibration Criteria
a.

Skin Panel Structure
(1) Sinusoidal Vibration Criteria

(a) Lift-off and mainstage sinusoidal vibration
criteria (see Figure 4.2-3).
b to 70 cps @ 0.03 In. Double Amp. Disp.
70 to 210 cps @7.5 g's peak
210 to 305 cps @ .0033 In. Double Amp. Disp.
305 to 500 cps @ 15.6 g's peak
500 to 2000 cps @ -6.45 g's peak/octave
2000 cps @2.7 g's peak
(b) Mach 1 and Max Q sinusoidal vibration criteria
(see Figure 4 . 2-4).
5 to 66 cps @ 0.0705 In. Double Amp. Disp.
6 6 t o 210 c p s @ 1 5 . 6 g ' s p e a k
210 to 305 cps @ 0.0069 In. Double Amp. Disp.
305 to 500 cps @ 33 g's peak
500 to 2000 cps @ -13.8 g's peak/octave
2000 cps @ 5.4 g's peak
(2) Random Vibration Criteria
(a) Lift-off and mainstage random vibration criteria
( s e e 1 i g u r e 4 . 2 - ) . - S h a l l c o n s i s t of 2 m i n u t e s o f r a n d o m n o i s e o v e r t h e
frequency band 20 to 2000 cps at the following levels:
20 cps @ 0. 0023 g2/cps
20 to 63 cps @ 9 db/octave
63 cps @ 0.07 g2/cps
63 to 380 cps @3.4 db/octave
380 to 420 cps @ 0.54 g^/cps
4-5

�420 to 800 cps @ -3. 75 db/octave
800 cps @ 0.24 g2/cps
800 to 2000 cps @ -9 db/octave
2 0 0 0 c p s (30. 1 5 5 g 2 / c p s
Composite Level =17.41 G
rms

(b) Mach 1 and Max Q random vibration criteria
(see b igure 4. 2-6). - Shall consist of one minute of random noise over
the frequency band 20 to 2000 cps at the following levels:
20 cps @ 0.01 g2/cps
20 to 63 cps @ 9 db/octave
63 cps @ 0.31 g2/cps
63 to 380 cps @3.4 db/octave
380 to 400 cps @2.4 g /cps
400 to 8i0 cps @ -3.5 db/octave
850 cps @1.0 g2/cps
850 to 2000 cps @ -1.5 db/octave
2000 cps @ 0.065 g2/cps
Composite Level = 45.38 G

rms

(3) Shock Criteria. - The shock pulse shall consist of
a 2 0 - g h a l f s i n e w a v e f o r a d u r a t i o n of 1 0 m i l l i s e c o n d s .
b. Skin Stiffener Structure
(1) Sinusoidal Vibration Criteria
(a) Lift-off and mainstage sinusoidal vibration
criteria (see Figure 4.2-7)
5 to 50 cps @ 0.0354 In. Double Amp. Disp.
50 to 158 cps @ 4. 5 g's peak
158 to 200 cps @ 0.00351 In. Double Amp. Disp.
200 to 500 cps @7.2 g's peak
500 to 2000 cps @ -2.4 g's peak/octave
2000 cps @ 2.4 g's peak
(b) Mach 1 and Max Q sinusoidal vibration criteria
(see Figure 4.2-8)
5 to 50 cps @ 0.075 In. Double Amp. Disp.
50 to 169 cps @9.6 g's peak
169 to 210 cps @ 0.0066 In. Double Amp. Disp.
210 to 500 cps @ 15 g's peak
500 to 2000 cps @ -4.8 g's peak/octave
2000 cps @5.4 g's peak
4-6

�(2) Random Vibration Criteria
(a) Lift-off and mainstage random vibration
c r i t e r i a ( s e e F i g u r e 4 . 2 - 9 ) . - S h a l l c o n s i s t of 2 m i n u t e s o f r a n d o m n o i s e
over the frequency band 20 to 2000 cps at the following levels:
20 cps. @ 0.0008 g^/cps
20 to 72 cps @ 8 db/octave
72 cps @ 0.027 g^/cps
72 to 400 cps @2.8 db/octave
400 cps @ 0. 13 g2/cps
400 to 1000 cps @ -3 db/octave
1000 cps @ 0. 052 g2. cps
1000 to 1600 cps @ -10. 5 db/octave
1600 to 2000 cps @0.01 g^/cps
Composite Level = 6. 76 G

rms

(b) Mach 1 and Max Q random vibration criteria
(see Figure 4.2-10). - Shall consist of one minute of random noise
over the frequency band 20 to 2000 cps at the following levels:
20 cps @ 0. 0035 g2/cps
20 to 70 cps @ 3 db/octave
70 cps @ 0. 12 g /cps
70 to 400 cps @ 2. 65 db/octave
400 cps @ 0. 56 g2/cps
400 to 1000 cps @ -2.8 db/octave
1000 cps @ 0.24 g^/cps
1000 to 1600 cps @ -10.8 db/octave
1600 to 2000 cps @ 0.044 g2/cps
Composite Level = 10.85 G

rms

(3) Shock Criteria. - The shock pulse shall consist of
a 20-g half sine wave for a duration of 10 milliseconds.

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��SECTION 5.0 ELECTRICAL SYSTEM SCHEMATICS

Preliminary schematics are provided here to further define the
design and electrical system interfaces as presented in the proposal
document. Figures 5.0-1 and -2 define the cable interconnect diagram
lor the entire electrical power system. Figures 5.0-3 through -19
are schematics outlining, in detail, interfaces of the electrical power
distribution system. No provision has been included in this distribution
system for corollary experiments.

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�SECTION 6.0 INSTRUMENTATION PROGRAM AND COMPONENTS

A listing of the measuring system hardware, composed of
telemetry, measuring, and RF components, which are not associated
with particular measurements is presented in Table 6.0-1. Also
presented, in Tables 6.0-2 through -13 is the complete instrumentation
program, which consists of measurements, telemetry channels,
applicable measuring components, range, and other pertinent infor­
mation.

6-1

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L
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Equipment

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PWG. NO

MEASURIMIN! NAME AND

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TELEMETER

OR COMPONENT

PART NO

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Measuring Rack 703A404

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50M12271

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50M12271

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RES.

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Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

-125 to +100°C

Temp. Reg. (8A) Inlet
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

-125 to +100°C

EF3-X-01-01

12S

01

4)

EF-X-01-02

12S

01

4)

EF3-X-01-03

12S

01

4)

EF3-X-01-04

12S

01

4)

5OM12400

5QM12400

50M12400

50M12400

TABLE 6.0-2

�PARAMETER
MEAS

C5-701

C6-408

C7-701

C8-408

C9-701

NR

INSTRUMENTATION PROGRAM &amp; COMPONENTS
VEHICLE SSESM
DWG. NO

Temperature

MEASUREMINl NAME AND

RANGE OR

OR COMPONENT

PART NO

Temp. Reg. (8A) Outlet
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

-125 to 70°C

Temp. Valve (5c) Outlet
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

-75 to +4Q°C

Temp. Suit Loop Supply
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

5 to 15°C

Temp. Reg. (9B) Inlet
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

-125 to +100°C

Temp. Airlock
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

FLT
PER

INS.
POS. |ENG.
ERR

PAGE

TELEMETER

REMARKS

CHANNEL

EF3-X-01-05

12S

01

EF3-X-01-06

12S

01 4)

EF3-X-01-07

12S

01

4)

EF3-X-01-08

12S

01

5)

EF3-X-01-09

12S

01

4)

4)

50M12400

50M12400

50M12400

50M12400
-100 to +125°F
50M12400

TABLE 6.0-3

�INSTRUMENTATION PROGRAM 8c COMPONENTS

r~
PARAMETER
MEAS

C10-703

Cll-703

C12-703

C13-703

C14-703

NR

Temperature
MEASUREMENT NAME AND
OR COMPONENT

Temp. Battery No. 1
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

VEHICLE
RANGE OR

FLT.

PART NO.

PER

SSESM

PAGE

DWG. NO

%

INS.

TELEMETER

POS

ENG.

CHANNEL

REMARKS

ERR

3 to 70°C

EF3-X-01-10

12S

02

EF3-X-02-01

12S

02

EF3-X-02-02

12S

02

EF3-X-02-03

12S

02

;F3-X-02-04

12S

02

50M12400

Temp. Battery No. 3
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

0 to 70°C

Temp. Battery No. 5
Temp. Gauge
pC Amplifier

0 to 70°C

Temp. Battery No. 7
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

0 to 70°C

Temp. Battery No. 9
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

0 to 70°C

50M12400

50M12400

50M12400

50M12400

TABLE 6.0-4

�INSTRUMENTATION PROGRAM &amp; COMPONENTS
PARAMETER
L
1
N
E

MEAS. NR

C15-703

C16-703

C17-703

C18-703

C19-703

C20-703

_

Temperature
MEASUREMENT NAME AND
OR COMPONENT

RANGE OR
PART NO.

Temp. Battery No. 11
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

0 to 70°C

Temp. Battery No. 13
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

0 to 70°C

Temp. Battery No. 15
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

0 to 70°C

Temp. Battery No. 17
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

0 to 70°C

Temp. Battery No. 19
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

0 to 70°C

Temp. Battery No. 21
Temp. Gauge
DC Amplifier

0 to 70°C

VEHICLE

FLT
PER

%
INS
POS ENG
ERR

SSF.SM
TELEMETER
CHANNEL

DWG

PAGE

NO
RES.

F
L
T
C
A
L

R
E
O

EF3-X-02-05

12S

Y

02

EF3-X-02-06

12S

Y

02

EF3-X-02-07

12S

Y

02

EF3-X-02-08

12S

Y

02

EF3-X-02-09

12S

Y

02

EF3-X-02-10

12S

Y

02

50M12400

50M12400

50M12400

50M12400

50M12400

50M12400

TABLE 6. 0 - 5

t

REMARKS

�«

I N S T R U M E N T A T I O N PROGRAM 8c COMPONENTS
PARAMETER
L

1

N

MTAS. NR.

Temperature
MEASUR1MI N! NAME AND
OR COMPONENT

VEHICLE
RANGE OR
PART NO.

FLT.
PER

SSESM

%

INS.

POS

ENG.

DWG. NO

RES.

R
E
O

EF3-X-05-02

12S

Y

01

5)

EF3-X-05-03

12S

Y

01

5)

EF3-X-05-04

12S

Y

01

5)

EF3-X-05-05

12S

Y

01

5)

EF3-X-05-06

12S

Y

01 6)

EF3-X-05-07

12S

Y

01

6)

EF3-X-05-08

12S

Y

01

6)

EF3-X-05-09

12S

Y

01

6)

TELEMETER
CHANNEL

ERR

E

C21-408

C22-408

C23-408

C24-408

C25-408

C26-408

C27-408

C28-408

T e m p LH2 T a n k , I n t
Temp Gauge
DC A m p l i f i e r

30 to 65°C

T e m p LH2 T a n k , I n t
Temp Gauge
DC A m p l i f i e r

30 to 653C

Temp LH2 T a n k , I n t
Temp Gauge
DC A m p l i f i e r
Temp LH2 T a n k , I n t
Temp Gauge
DC A m p l i f i e r
T e m p LH2 T a n k , I n t
Temp Gauge
DC A m p l i f i e r
T e m p LH2 T a n k , I n t
Temp Gauge
DC A m p l i f i e r

PAGE
F
L
T
C
A
L

REMARKS

50M12400

50M12400
30 t o 65°C
50M12400
30 to 65°C
50M12400
30 to 65°C
50M12400
30 to 65°C
50M12400

T e m p LH2 T a n k , I n t
Temp Gauge
DC A m p l i f i e r

30 t o 65°C

Temp LH2 T a n k , I n t
Temp Gauge
DC A m p l i f i e r

30 t o 65°C

50M12400

50M12400

1

xO

o

TABLE 6.

�INSTRUMENTATION PROGRAM &amp; COMPONENTS
PARAMETER

MEAS

NR.

Temperature

VEHICLE

MEASUREMENT NAME AND
OR COMPONENT

RANGE OR
PART NO.

FLT.
PER

«4
POS

SSESM

DWG. NO

INS

TELEMETER

ENG

CHANNEL

PAGE

REMARKS

ERR

C29-409

C30-409

T e m p LH2 T a n k , E x t
Temp Gauge
DC A m p l i f i e r

-60 to 100°C

Temp LH2 Tank Ext
Temp Gauge
DC A m p l i f i e r

-60 to 100°C

EF3-X-05-10

12S

01

6)

EF3-X-06-01

12S

01

6)

50M12400

50M12400

TABLE 6.0-7

�I N S T R U M E N T A T I O N P R O G R A M 8c C O M P O N E N T S
Pressure

VEHICLE
MEASURI.MI NT NAME AND
OR COMPONENT

RANGE OR
PART NO.

SSESM

DWG. NO

PAGE

TELEMETER
POS

CHANNEL

REMARKS

ERR

Pressure Oxygen
Storage Tank No. I
Press. Gauge

50M12344

Hardwire Display
for preflight
4) 6)

50M12344

Hardwire Display
for preflight
4)6)

Pressure, Oxygen
Storage Tank No. 3
Press. Gauge

50M12344

Hardwire Display
for preflight
4)6)

Inlet Pressure, Oxygen Supply
System
Press. Gauge

50M12344

Pressure, Oxygen
Storage Tank No. 2
Press. Gauge
D3-703

D4-701

TABLE 6..0-8

�INSTRUMENTATION PROGRAM &amp; COMPONENTS
PARAMETER
L
1
N
E

MEAS. NR.

Pressure

VEHICLE
MEASUREMENT NAME AND
OR COMPONENT

RANGE OR
PART NO.

INS.
FLT. %
PER POS ENG.
ERR

SSESM
TELEMETER
CHANNEL

PAGE

NO
RES.

F
L
T.
C
A
L

R
E
O

REMARKS

D5-701

Regulator (8A) Outlet Pressure
Press Gauge

0 to 400 PSI

EF3-X-03-05

12S

Y

01

4)

D6-701

Pressure, Suit Loop
Supply
Press Gauge

0 to 15 PSI

EF3-X-03-06

12S

Y

0

4)

D7-701

Regulator (7A) Outlet
Pressure
Press Gauge

05 to 1500 PSI

EF3-X-03-07

12S

Y

0

4)

D8-701

Airlock Pressure
Press Gauge

0 to 20 PSI
50M10259

EF3-X-03-08

12S

Y

o:

Hardwire Display
for preflight
4) 5) 6)

D9-408

P r e s s u r e , LH2 T a n k
Press Gauge

0 to 10 PSI

EF3-X-03-09

12S

Y

o;

4)

50M10262

TABLE 6.0-9

•

r

t

5)

6)

�INSTRUMENTATION PROGRAM 8c COMPONENTS
PARAMETER

MEAS. NR.

Pressure

VEHICL
MEASUREMENT NAME AND
OR COMPONENT

RANGE OR
PART NO.

FLT.
PER

*
POS

£SESM
INS.
ENG

DWG. NO
TELEMETER
CHANNEL

PAGE

RES.

REMARKS

ERR

D10-201

C02 P a r t i a l Pressure Airlock
Gauge Assy

0 to .15 psi

EF3-X-03-10

12S

01

4) 6)

Dl1-408

C 0 2 P a r t i a l P r e s s u r e LH2 T a n k

0 to .15 psi

EF3-X-04-01

12S

01

4) 5)

TABLE 6.0-10

�INSTRUMENTATION PROGRAM 8c COMPONENTS
PARAMETER
L
1
N
E

MEAS. NR.

F1-408

F^OW

VEHICLE
MEASUREMENT NAME AND
OR COMPONENT

F l o w - ECS F l o w m e t e r
DC A m p l i f i e r

RANGE OR
PART NO.

FLT.
PER

%
POS
ERR

0.2 to 3 lb/hr
50M12400

TABLE 6.0-11

INS.
ENG.

SSESM
TELEMETER
CHANNEL

EF3-X-05-01

DWG. NO

RES.

45

PAGE
F
L
T.
C
A
L

Y

R
E
Q

01 5)

REMARKS

�INSTRUMENTATION PROGRAM &amp; COMPONENTS
PARAMETER
L
1
N
E

MEAS. NR.

Signal

VEHICLE
MEASUREMENT NAME AND
OR COMPONENT

RANGE OR
PART NO.

FLT. *
INS.
PER POS ENG
ERR

SSESM
TELEMETER
CHANNEL

PAGE

. NO
RES.

F
L
T.
C
A
L

R
E
O

Kl-701

Voltage Sensor No. 1

0 or 5 VDC

EF3-X-04-02

12S

Y

02

K2-701

Voltage Sensor No. 2

0 or 5 VDC

EF3-X-04-03

12S

Y

02

K6-701

Lights LH2 Tank

0 or 5 VDC

EF3-X-05-05

12S

Y

02

K7-701

Lights LH2 Tank

0 or 5 VDC

EF3-X-05-06

12S

Y

02

K8-701

Blowers On

0 or 5 VDC

EF3-X-05-07

12S

Y

02

K9-701

Oxygen Heater 701A6

0 or 5 VDC

EF3-X-05-08

12S

Y

02

K10-701

Oxygen Heater 701A7 On

0 or 5 VDC

EF3-X-05-08

12S

Y

02

Kll-701

Exterior Lights On

0 or 5 VDC

EF3-X-05-09

12S

Y

02

K12-701

Airlock Light On

0 or 5 VDC

EF3-X-05-10

12S

Y

02

On

TABLE 6.0-12

REMARKS

�INSTRUMENTATION PROGRAM 8c COMPONENTS
PARAMETER
MEAS. NR.

Voltage, Current &amp; Frequency

VEHICLE
RANGE OR

MEASUREMENT NAME AND
OR COMPONENT

PART NO.

FLT
PER

%
INS.
POS. ENG.
ERR

SSESM

PAGE

DWG. NO.
TELEMETER
CHANNEL

REMARKS

Ml-701

V o l t a g e Bus 7D10

0 t o 2 8 VDC

EF3-X-04-04

12S

02

4)

M2-701

V o l t a g e Bus 7D30

0 t o 2 8 VDC

EF3-X-04-05

12S

02

4)

M3-701

V o l t a g e B u s 7D30

0 t o 2 8 VDC

EF3-X-04-06

12S

0

4)

M4-701

C u r r e n t Bus 7D10
DC A m p l i f i e r

0 t o 1 2 0 Amps

EF3-X-04-07

12S

0

4)

M5-701

C u r r e n t B u s 7D30
DC A m p l i f i e r

0 to

2 4 Amps

EF3-X-04-08

12S

02

4)

12S

02

4)
4)

12S

02

M6-701

C u r r e n t B u s 7D50
DC A m p l i f i e r

0 t o 1 2 0 Amps

EF3-X-04-09

M7-701

V o l t a g e 5 VDC M e a s u r i n g
Supply

0 t o 5 VDC

EF3-X-04-10

T A B L E 6. 0 - 1 3

�SECTION 7.0 HANDLING SEQUENCE

7. 1

GENERAL

This Section describes receiving the SSESM at KSC, checkout of
SLA, SSESM installation in SLA, SLA and IU mating, and spacecraft
mating and forward buildup.
7.2

RECEIVING OF SSESM AT KSC (Figures 7.2-1 through -3)
7. 2. 1 The SSESM is shipped from MSFC, Huntsville, to KSC.

7.2.2 The SSESM is transferred to Manned Spacecraft Operations
Building (MSOB), MILA.
7. 2. 3

The SSESM is removed from the shipping container by:
a.

R e m o v a l o f u p p e r s e c t i o n of t h e c o n t a i n e r .

b.

Installation of handling ring on SSESM.

c. Removal of all clamping devices on the SSESM, freeing
i t f r o m t h e l o w e r s e c t i o n of t h e s h i p p i n g c o n t a i n e r .
d.

Using a hoisting sling and the crane facilities at MSOB.

w

7-1

�F I G U R E 7 . 2 - 1 - A R R I V A L O F SSESM A T T H E T E S T A N D C H E C K O U T F A C I L I T I E S
7-2

�THE METEROID LHHLL H,
I I TIC--EL IN 4 PLACES HOR
CLA.V.P INSTALLATION
HOISTING

FIGURE 7.2-2 - METHOD OF HOISTING SSESM
7-3

I

�HO
SL

AIRLOCK
UNIT

FIGURE 7.2-3 - REMOVAL OF SSESM FROM STORAGE CONTAINER
7-4

�7* 3

CHECKOUT OF SLA PRIOR TO SSESM INSTALLATION
( F i g u r e 7 . 3 - 1)
7. 3. 1 Receive SLA and install in the work stand at MSOB.
7.3.2 Perform inspection.
7.3.3 Install open items:
a.

Separation system

b.

Umbilical

c.

Associated wiring

d.

Instrumentation

7.3.4 Perform continuity check.
7. 3 . 5 D e m a t e S L A .
7.3.6

Transfer SLA upper section to the next station.

7-5

�FIGURE 7. 3-1 - SLA SEPARATED
7-6

�I

7.4

SSESM INSTALLATION IN SLA LOWER SECTION
(Figures 7.4-1 through -3)
7.4. 1 Install SSESM in the SLA lower section.
7.4.Z Adjust the attachment fittings.
7.4.3 Verify the alignment.
7.4.4 Mate the electrical connectors and verify their compati­

bility.
7. 4. 5

Demate.

7.4.6

Transfer the SSESM to the next station.

I
f

*

7-7

��FIGURE 7.4-2 - SSESM AND LOWER SLA ASSEMBLY
7-9

�t

�7. 5

SLA LOWER SECTION AND IU MATING FOR TEST AND CHECKOUT
(Figure 7. 5-1)
~~
"
7. 5 . 1

Receive IU.

7. 5. 2 Mate SLA lower section to IU.
7. 5 . 3 P e r f o r m m e c h a n i c a l f i t c h e c k a n d v e r i f y m e c h a n i c a l
alignment.
7.5.4 Perform electrical fit check.
7. 5 . 5 D e m a t e S L A f r o m I U .
7.5.6

Transfer IU and SLA lower section to the next station.

7. 5 . 7 N o t s h o w n : V e r i f i c a t i o n of C M / S L A m e c h a n i c a l c o m ­
patibility and storage of SLA.

7-11

�F I G U R E 1 0 - i - L O W E R S L A M A T E D T O I U F O R T E S T AND C H E C K O U T
{-Li

�#

7. 6

SPACECRAFT MATE AND FORWARD BUILDUP
(Figure 7.6-1 through -3)
7. 6 . 1 I n s t a l l c o m p l e t e S S E S M i n S L A l o w e r s e c t i o n .
7. 6 . 2 V e r i f y i n t e r f a c e a n d a l i g n m e n t .
7.6.3 Mate SLA upper section to SLA lower section.
7.6.4 Install internal access platform set.
7. 6 . 5 M e c h a n i c a l l y m a t e C S M t o S L A .
7.6.6 Verify CSM/SLA mechanical alignment.
7. 6 . 7

Electrically mate CSM to SLA.

7.6.8 Verify CSM/SLA electrical interfaces.
7.6.9

Buildup forward deck.

7. 6 . 1 0 I n s t a l l f o r w a r d h e a t s h i e l d .
7. 6 . 1 1 I n s t a l l o r d n a n c e d e v i c e s .
7.6. 12 Spacecraft transferred to Launch Complex (LC).

7-13

�AIRL^C
UNIT

LOWER
SLA

HANDLING
RING

F I G U R E ( . D - 1 - S S ES M I N S T A L L A T I O N I N L O W E R S L A P R I O R T O M A T I N G
WITH THE FLIGHT VEHICLE
7-14

��t-IC.LRE i . o - i - CM/SM/SLA/ SSESM MATING TO VEHICLE
i

- lo

�SECTION 8.0 MAINTENANCE CONCEPT

8. 1 INTRODUCTION
8. I. 1

Purpose

The maintenance concept for the SSESM is presented in
this Section. It shall be used by MSFC and contractors when developing
maintenance program plans to insure adequate maintenance for the
SSESM.
8.1.2 Scope
This concept applies to all orbital maintenance activities
occurring on the SSESM system after docking takes place.
8.1.3 Objectives
The principal objective of this maintenance concept is to
provide a baseline for systematic maintenance planning for the SSESM
logistics support. Systematic maintenance planning is required in
order to accomplish the following:
a.

Increased equipment availability.

b.

Increased repair reliability.

c.

Increased safety for equipment and personnel.

d.

Reduced probability of human e r r o r .

The above objectives are attained by achieving the following:
a. Verified maintenance procedures and maintenance
technical support data.
b. Compatible man-machine relationships for successful
completion of maintenance activities.
c.
of the SSESM.

Adequate training for personnel to perform maintenance

8-1

�8.1.4

Concept Revisions

This concept provides the preliminary maintenance program
for all organizations performing logistics planning functions. As analysis
and program definition proceed, this concept will be subject to additions,
deletions, and modifications. These changes should be justified by appro­
priate technical or management studies.
8.1.5

Applicable Documents

The following documents shall be used for reference to aid
in the maintenance planning for the SSESM. In case of conflict between
this document and the referenced documents, the referenced documents
shall apply:
Astronaut Training Plan (not released)
Apollo Logistics Support Plan (NHB 7500. 1)
SSESM Maintenance Plan (not released)
8. 2

BASIC CONCEPTS
8. 2. 1

Mission Concept

The present mission concept requires that, in the event
of a malfunction in any critical system, the mission will be aborted. It
is the intent of this maintenance concept to extend the mission concept
to permit an attempt to repair the system prior to issuing an order to
abort.
8. 2. 2

Spares Concept

A limited number of spare parts will be provided for inspace maintenance. Candidates for spares will be identified as the result
of performance of a maintenance requirements a n a l y s i s . The actual
spares to be transported with the SSESM will be determined from a
detailed spare parts analysis. This spare parts analysis will consider,
a s a m i n i m u m , t h e f o l l o w i n g : ( a ) R e l i a b i l i t y ; (l&gt;) C r i t i c a l i t y ; ( c ) F e a s i b i l i t y ;
(d) Weight Constraints. Spare parts will only be considered for support of
the Environmental Control System (ECS).

8-2

�8.2.3

Maintenance Concept

Maintenance on the SSESM will be performed by removing
and replacing malfunctioned components. Disposal of defective components
will be accomplished by stowing them in appropriate locations in the Spent
Stage. No attempt will be made to return defective components to Earth.
Structural repair will be considered, depending on development of adequate
repair techniques. The maintenance requirements, tool requirements,
astronaut training requirements, etc. , will be identified by a maintenance
analysis (to be performed in accordance with NHB 7500. 1). Repair, in
lieu of component replacement, will be considered if justification is
provided by means of maintenance analysis or other trade studies.
Components which a r e capable of being removed and replaced o r repaired
will be identified in the SSESM maintenance plan (to be developed at a
later date). Maintenance will be considered only on the SSESM Environ­
mental Control System (ECS) due to the high mission criticality of this
system.
8. 3

TYPES OF MAINTENANCE
8.3.1

Preventive Maintenance (Scheduled Maintenance)

Preventive maintenance is defined as any planned mainte­
nance action which is performed to maintain the system in a satisfactory
operational condition. This consists, normally, of systematic inspections,
servicing, and the detection and correction of incipient malfunctions before
they occur or develop into major malfunctions.
8.3.2

Corrective Maintenance (Unscheduled Maintenance)

Corrective maintenance is any maintenance action which is
performed as the result of a failure and is performed in order to restore
the equipment to satisfactory operational condition.
8. 4

MAINTENANCE LEVELS

Levels of maintenance have been identified in order to categorize
maintenance activities on a functional and location basis. Levels of
maintenance for the S-IVB Workshop are described as follows:
8.4.1

First Level

First-level maintenance includes all maintenance activities
accomplished directly on system-installed hardware. This includes fault
8-3

�isolation, removal and replacement of components, servicing, replenishing,
inspection, and repair-in-place activities performed on the Workshop
whether it be in space or on the ground prior to launch.
8.4.2

Second Level

Second-level maintenance includes all activities performed
in direct support of first-level maintenance and involves disposition o r
repair of hardware removed during first-level maintenance activities.
In view of the philosophy discussed in paragraph 10. 2. 3, no second-level
or lower-level maintenance will be required.
8. 5

MAINTENANCE STANDARDS

Space maintenance activities demand the application of high quality
standard maintenance proctices. Specifications must be developed which
delineate in-space maintenance requirements to be met in regard to torque,
cleanliness, bonding soldering, and lockwiring. Maintenance directives
and procedures shall implement these specifications as applicable.

8-4

�SECTION 9.0

TEST AND SIMULATION FACILITIES

9. 1 GENERAL
Substantial test facility capability exists at the MSFC with present
and planned facilities. The applicability of the existing facilities to
the development and test of a SSESM is discussed in this Section.
9.2 EXISTING FACILITIES
To supplement the mechanically-induced vibration spectrum,
use could be made of the recently-completed acoustical Test Position
116. This unique facility provides a clean acoustical environment
which can subject the SSESM to a simulated acoustical spectrum
equivalent to that encountered during CM detaching and docking
maneuve rs.
The structural integrity of the air lock and the docking structure
could be verified by tethering both the assembled air lock and CM from
the top of the 425-foot-high Saturn V Dynamic Test Stand. The extreme
length of the suspension cables would induce negligible horizontal
components and permit simulated in-space docking maneuvers.
The Saturn V Dynamic Test Stand also houses the largest U.S.
Low Gravity Test Facility. This facility could be utilized to verify
the design and to establish in-flight fluid flow characteristics such as
would be encountered by the environmental control and other gaseous
or fluid systems.
The CTL Area can accommodate component system development
and verification tests involving hazardous propellants and high-pressure
gases as employed by the slug environmental control system. In
addition, newly and especially developed components, such as valves,
regulators, switches, gauges, and heat exchangers, could be evaluated
for system compatibility and response characteristics.
The recently-completed Test Position 500 could be employed in
the development of hazardous cryogenic handling, transfer, storage,
and dumping techniques as would be encountered during orbital hydrogen
tank blowdown, as well as facilitate the solution to inevitable unforseen
problems which frequently occur in system design and development
efforts.

�The currently-functional GSE Area could be utilized in develop­
ment of SLA panel explosive removal techniques. The random motion
devices could be employed to simulate the action of the S-IVB Workshop
in a perturbed orbit while activating SLA panel deployment.
In general, the aforementioned test facilities are but a few of
those existing which could considerably benefit an austere in-house
development of the SSESM. All of the test positions and areas a r e
fully instrumented to sense and record the required design and test
phenomena. As the program guidelines and operational requirements
solidify, it is anticipated that other existing Test Laboratory facilities
and component test positions can be used to greater advantage than
presently envisioned.

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�SECTION 10.0

10. 1

CREW FAMILIARIZATION PLAN

GENERAL

A description of a proposed Crew Familiarization Program for
the S-IVB Workshop and spent stage experiments is presented in this
Section. This plan will assure timely identification and integration of
all familiarization resources and services necessary to insure adequate,
timely, and economical familiarization support for the crew members.
This plan shall be conducted within the guidelines and ground rules
established for the overall astronaut familiarization program and shall
be controlled and monitored by MSC.
This plan conforms to NHB-7500. 1, Apollo Logistics Require­
ments Plan, November 1965; MSFC Logistics Support Requirements
Plan, January 1966; and NPC 500.1, Apollo Configuration Management
Manual, May 1964..
10.2

FAMILIARIZATION CONCEPT
10.2.1 Description

This familiarization concept is a proposed method of
accomplishing crew familiarization for the S-IVB spent stage, the
SSESM, and the experiments. This concept will assure the effective
control and management required to identify, develop, provide, and
maintain a familiarization program for the orbital workshop.
All crew members will be trained in the deployment
and use of air lock and workshop equipment, including equipment
required in MSFC-developed experiments. Contingency time will be
included throughout the familiarization program to allow for unexpected
events or task difficulties.
It is estimated that three or four months will be required
for actual crew familiarization. This will cover five primary familiari­
zation areas and will be divided into four phases.

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�10.2.2

Familiarization Areas
The primary familiarization areas are as follows:
a.

Crew system equipment handling and operation.

b.

S-IVB Workshop activation and passivation procedures

c.

Experiment equipment transfer, operation, and data
collection.

d.

S-IVB Workshop shutdown.

e.

Safety procedures and contingencies.

10.2.3 Familiarization Phase
The program will be divided into the following phases:
a.

Orientation of mission requirements and subsystems
capabilities. Astronaut/equipment interface will be
defined and component functions will be introduced.

b.

Simulation of man-machine mission requirements to
validate equipment locations and layout.

c.

Simulation of man-machine mission requirements
incorporating recommended modifications.

d.

Total mission simulation; reduced gravity, high
fidelity simulation of equipment and man-equipment
functional requirements.

After the orientation period, integrated mission
simulation will be conducted in a Spent Stage functional mockup.
Reduced gravity, vacuum, and atmospheric conditions to be encountered
during the actual mission will be simulated where necessary. A con­
tinuous evaluation of the familiarization program will be conducted to
determine that familiarization course objectives are met.

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�10.2.4

Elements Required

The elements required to identify, provide control of,
and manage the familiarization program are the following:
a. Familiarization Requirements Analysis. - A
systematic familiarization requirements analysis will be made of the
post docking to CSM-SSESM separation sequence of events, systems
analysis, maintenance analysis, and experiment outputs to identify
those crew member tasks that require familiarization and associated
lamiliarization equipment. The familiarization requirements analysis
will be made along the guidelines detailed in paragraph 10.3. The
analysis will form the basis of the familiarization plans and familiari­
zation equipment specification.
b. Familiarization Plans- -Familiarization plans
will be developed to cover equipment and familiarization requirements
identified in the familiarization requirements analysis. Each will be
developed along the guidelines detailed in paragraph 10.4. A program
plan will be developed that will give visibility to the total familiarization
requirements and will indicate areas for cross-training and unscheduled
redundancies.
c*

Implementation. - Some of the prime considerations
during the implementation period are inter-Center schedule milestones,
interface familiarization requirements, and mission requirements.
MSFC will provide a technical coordinator to NASA Headquarters and
MSC.
d. Management. -MSC will provide the necessary
program coordination and control to assure that the familiarization
program covered herein meets MSC program milestones and standards.
Necessary management control through directives, instructions, and
procedures will be provided. Techniques such as PERT, EDS, con­
figuration management, etc., will be utilized for effective and econo­
mical management of the familiarization program.
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FAMILIARIZATION REQUIREMENTS ANALYSIS
10. 3. 1

Purpose

The purpose of the familiarization requirements
analysis is to identify specific familiarization requirements and
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�familiarization equipment for the S-IVB Workshop mission- This
analysis will be a systematic review of the SSESM experiments and
their related operations and maintenance tasks. A part of this opera­
tions and maintenance analysis has already been accomplished.
10.3.2

Flight Equipment Analysis

Flight equipment that requires crew familiarization
for satisfactory operation will be identified and categorized in
accordance with its mission criticality, complexity of operation,
physical constraints imposed upon crew members, interface with
other equipment, safety considerations, and contingencies. Expend­
able and recoverable equipment will be identified and their stowage
procedures defined.
10. 3. 3 Task Analysis
Tasks required to perform each normal/emergency
operational function will be defined. A comprehensive and systematic
review of the flight equipment and task analyses will be conducted to
determine total task familiarization and individual task familiarization
requirements. Specific task procedures will be defined. Estimates
of time, in minutes, required to perform each task will be made.
T h e s e estimates will be revised a t the end of the crew familiarization
program to indicate a more realistic task time factor based upon
simulated operation time. Each task will be identified to indicate its
criticality to mission success, degradation of equipment, perceptual
requirements, motor skill demands, judgmental requirements, and
number of crew members required.
10.3.4

Familiarization Equipment and Facilities Analysis

Familiarization equipment and facilities analyses will
be made to determine requirements and availability dates. Selection
and provisioning of familiarization equipment will be made based on
this analysis. Before fabrication, familiarization equipment specifi­
cation will be prepared and approved for each familiarization equip­
ment end item. Appropriate configuration control procedures will be
implemented to maintain familiarization equipment end item compati­
bility with the operational program equipment.

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�10.3.5 Nature of Familiarization
The most economical and effective methods of teaching
will be used. Familiarization aids, components, operational equip­
ment, and simulators will be used for orientation and task-based
familiarization. Orientation of mission requirements, subsystem
capabilities and component functions is required to familiarize the
crew members with tasks to be performed. Equipment built to actual
operational system specifications and simulators will be used to
develop exact unique skills and to meet specific familiarization objec­
tives. Existing operational equipment and simulators will be fully
utilized. Familiarization facilities, as determined by the facilities
analysis, will be provided. Extensive renovation will not be accom­
plished unless it is considered critical to the familiarization program
mission.
10.3.6 Familiarization Outline
A familiarization outline will be prepared from the
familiarization requirements analysis data. The outline will define
the courses, equipment, integrated resources, and services necessary
for crew familiarization in each program phase as stated in para­
graph 10.2. This outline will provide a basis for the familiarization
plans, and the estimated time required to complete each course.
10. 4

FAMILIARIZATION PLANS
10.4. 1 Purpose

The familiarization plan will provide documented
sources for identifying lesson plans, resources and controls to
assure that familiarization requirements are met.
10.4.2 Course Description and Outline
A course description and outline will be prepared from
the familiarization outline data for each program phase (see para­
graph 10.2). It will contain the basic organization material and an
itemized listing of each familiarization requirement, including the
time clement required for familiarization. The data will contain
information such as security classification, course objective and

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�scope, course length in manhours, location of familiarization,
familiarization methods to be used, required familiarization equip­
ment, and contingencies. The course description and outline data
will be used to develop lesson plans.
10.4.3

Lesson Plans

Lesson plans will be prepared for each program
operation to define the familiarization accomplishments required
for daily performance. In addition to operational and equipment
procedures, the lesson plans will include contingencies, equipment
relationships and interfaces, mission criticality, safety procedures,
evaluation data, and conditions that would necessitate abort. Simul­
taneous crew participation at different work stations will be covered.
10.4.4 Schedules
Schedules will be developed from the course descrip­
tion and outline, the latest Apollo Program schedules, and MSC
astronaut familiarization schedule. They will contain provisioning
data relative to familiarization equipment, facilities, lesson plans,
instructors, and crew members. This part of the familiarization
plan will give visibility to the total crew familiarization program and
will clearly portray major familiarization milestones, critical
familiarization events, schedule slippage or compromise provisioning
inadequacies and current status.
10.4.5 Familiarization Evaluation
A performance measurement system will be developed
to assure an effective familiarization program and crew-system
integration. MSC will evaluate the crew proficiency in relation to the
familiarization course objectives. Approval of crew efficiency to
successfully conduct mission operations will be the responsibility of
MSC.

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�10.5

IMPLEMENTATION

The preparation for crew familiarization will consist of the
following:
a.

A detailed preparation and presentation of data
identified in the familiarization requirements
analysis and familiarization plans.

b.

Design and fabrication of additional familiarization
equipment defined in the familiarization requirements
analysis.

c.

Utilization of equipment and facilities identified in the
familiarization requirements analysis.

d.

An evaluation of knowledge and skills required to
conduct crew familiarization.

To assure crew proficiency, crew familiarization will be
conducted using the course description and outline, lesson plans,
familiarization equipment and facilities identified/developed in the
technical requirements analysis and familiarization plan developed
phases.
NASA configuration management techniques will be used for
familiarization equipment provisioning and control to assure that the
equipment is current with flight hardware configuration and program
schedules.
A monthly status report will be submitted. In addition to the
information required by the reporting procedures, the report will
contain any problem encountered and the solution, schedule slippages
with justification and recommended corrective action, and current
status.
Familiarization evaluation reports will be submitted by the
instructor at the completion of each lesson. This report will
contain lesson number and title, name of instructor, names of crew
members participating, actual time required for course completion,
evaluation of crew proficiency, degree of familiarization equipment
efficiency, recommendations to improve lesson plan, and recommen­
dations concerning crew-system interfaces.
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�10.6

FAMILIARIZATION MANAGEMENT

The methods and procedures specified herein will provide
assurance that the crew familiarization requirements for the S-IVB
Spent Stage Experiment will be satisfied. It will assure that
requirements are identified and satisfied in a manner and time frame
permitting effective integration and control of this program with the
MSC astronaut training program.
Major milestones, program elements, and functional flow
paths are shown in Figure 10.6-1. Each function is shown within its
program element and is defined within the program element text shown
for that function. Each function will be further defined and maintained
during the life of the program.
The documentation developed for each of the functions is shown
in Figure 10.6-2. The documentation used will be structured to per­
mit common use in establishing the familiarization baselines and in
performing program requirements. Documentation will be revised
throughout the program to maintain familiarization and equipment
current with program configuration and schedules.

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WTELEDYNE
BROWN ENGINEERING
TECHNICAL LETTER ASD-ASTN-20102
TO:

J. W. Stokes
S&amp;E-ASTN-SMH

FROM:

Human Factors Engineering Branch
Systems Engineering Department
Aerospace Support Division

SUBJECT:

Final Crew System Corollary Experiment
Input to the Skylab Final Mission Evaluation
Report

DATE:

Fe b r u a r y 1 5 , 1 9 7 4

In response to AVO No. 140, dated February 8, 1974, and in partial
fulfillment of Technical Directive S-3-500, paragraph I. D. 1, the subject
report is enclosed.

Originated by:
R. A. Curtis

"Originated by:
D. W. Dodson

APPROVED:

(

A-

/ /

J. H. Ofenloch, Task Manager
Man/Systems Engineering
Section, ASD-SHE

R. L. Edgeton, 'Manager
Man/Systems Engineering
Branch, ASD-SH

1 Enc:
As stated
cc: S&amp;E-ASTN-SM, Mr. Thompson, w/oenc.
ASD-S, Mr. Turney, w/o enc.
/
S&amp;E-ASTN-SMH, Mr. Reaves

AF-01-PP (38732)

�MISSION E V A L U A T I O N R E P O R T
SKYLAB COROLLARY EXPERIMENTS

Prepared by:
C R E W S Y S T E M S MISSION S U P P O R T G R O U P
MARSHALL SPACE FLIGHT CENTER
NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION
February 9, 1974

�13.22

COROLLARY EXPERIMENTS

13.22. 1

General

-

The corollary experiments involved three major

i t e g o r i e s of e x p e r i m e n t a t i o n c o n s i s t i n g o f ; t h e s c i e n t i f i c , w i t h o b j e c t i v e s
&gt; acquire photographic data of solar and stellar phenomena; the technological,
with objectives to measure contamination levels surrounding the Orbital
Assembly; and the operational, with objectives to assess technological
innovations which assist the crew in performing space related tasks.

Performance of the corollary experiments during the three Skylab missions
achieved most of the designed and planned functional objectives.

The know­

ledge obtained from their operation and the acquired data have provided
insight that will be implemented into the design and operational require­
ments of future manned spacecraft.

Significant information has been acquired a s a result of the corollary experi­
ment activities performed during Skylab.

Ihe following are some conclusions

derived from the on-orbit corollary experimentation that is applicable to
future spacecraft hardware designs and operations.
•

An adequate maintenance workstation with appropriate
tools and restraints should be included in future space­
craft design.

•

Crew manipulation of large experiment equipment
caused no problems.

Multiple, small items were

�found to be difficult to constrain and handle.

It is

recommended that handles be provisioned on all large
mass items to facilitate their manipulation.

Also, a

system is required to control the manipulation of
multiple, small items.
Of the experiments requiring extension/retraction
through the Scientific Airlock (SAL) to space, it was
found that the retraction forces were somewhat higher,
as anticipated, and that a warm-up period was required
prior to final retraction and removal of experiments
from the SAL to prevent formation of condensation/
frost.
Through operations of M509 and T020 the feasibility of
a one-man maneuvering unit was successfully demonstrated.
Corollary experiment T013 demonstrated that crew
motion within a large spacecraft does impact its
stability and guidance control and should be considered
in future designs.

�13.22.2

Scientific Experiments

13.22.2.1

S009 - Nuclear Emulsion
a.

Operations - Experiment S009 was scheduled to be performed

throughout the SL-2 mission to investigate aspects of cosmic radiation.
Prior to experiment initiation, the S009 detector package was to be removed
from the OWS film vault, transferred to the MDA and installed in the S009
experiment housing.

The crewman was then to initiate experiment operation

by setting the proper beta angle and activating the open-close cycle for the
experiment.

S009 was to operate automatically throughout SL-2 with the crew

making periodic checks and/or corrections to the experiment beta angle
and open-close cycle.

At the completion of the experiment, the S009

detector package was to be removed from the experiment housing and stowed
in the CM for earth return.
b. Usage/Anomalies -

The S009 experiment was conducted on

SL-2 despite a concern of possible S009 detector emulsion degradation due
to the high OWS temperatures present during the beginning of the SL-2
mission.

During the S009 detector package installation considerable difficulty

was encountered.

It was determined that due to the high OWS temperatures,

the emulsion package had expanded thereby reducing the tolerances between
the package and experiment housing.

After two we ks of operation the door on the S009 experiment housing
began to bind and finally would not close properly.

The crew performed

�malfunction procedures and concluded that the motor/drive train for the
experiment door had failed.

As a result the S009 door was left open,

the automatic open-close cycle was inhibited and manual pointing was
maintained throughout the duration of the SL-2 mission for data collection.

At the end of SL-2 the S009 detector package was stowed in the CM and
returned to earth.

On ground analysis of the package revealed that the

emulsion layers had been fused together due to the high OWS temperatures
and the data was of little use.

On SL-3 a new S009 door motor was launched for replacement but
replacement was not accomplished due to scheduling reasons.

On SL-4 a new emulsion package was launched.

During malfunction

procedures the crew replaced the defective door motor (an hour operation)
and installed the resupplied detector package.

S009 was then activated and

performed satisfactorily throughout the remainder of the SL-4 mission.
completion of the experiment, the detector package was stowed in the
CM and returned to earth.

c.

Assessments/Recommendations -

Experiment S009

operations, including malfunction procedures, were straightforward and
no crew interface problems were experienced.

The hardware unstowage

and experiment activation was a one-man operation and the restraints

Up

�provided in the MDA for S009 operations were considered adequate.

No

problems were encountered during the SL-4 S009 motor replacement and
resupply of the detector package.
13.22.22.2
a.

S019 - UV Stellar Astronomy
Operations - The S019 UV Stellar Astronomy experiment

was scheduled to be performed during 12 selected night orbits in each
of the first two missions, SL-2 and SL-3.

The equipment to be used was an optical canister and the Articulated
Mirror System (AMS), launched in individual stowage containers, and
the film canister, launched in the OWS film vault.

One crewman was to

be required to set up and operate the experiment hardware in the Scientific
Airlock (SAL) to obtain a total of 150 slides of data from a minimum of
36 starfields.

Three starfields, with three exposures per starfield,

were to be photographed during each operation.

To maximize the scientific

return of S019, the astronaut was to be allowed as much flexibility in the
choice of starfields and exposure times a s possible.

b. Usage/Anomalies - During the initial activation of the AMS
a problem occurred in the operation of the tilt mechanism.
this S019 operation was aborted and no data was acquired.

As a result,
Through

extensive malfunction procedure checkout and finally, disassembly of the
AMS tilt mechanism, the crew discovered an Allen screw binding on a

�small gear of the tilt mechanism.

This was corrected and the unit

functioned properly during the remainder of the experiment's data
acquisition operations.

During the repair of the AMS tilt mechanism, the m i r r o r was inadvertently
touched leaving a finger print on the mirror.

At the request of the

Principle Investigator (PI), no corrective procedure was implemented,
to remove the finger print.

This was to prevent possible additional

damage to the mirror surface.

Trying to clean the mirror could have

been more degrading to the mirror's viewing function than the imposed
finger print.

During SL-3 operations of S019 it was reported that the luminescence
h a d c o m e o u t o f t h e d i g i t s o n o n e of t h e r o t a t i o n d i a l s .

However, by

close inspection, the operator could still distinguish the engraved
impressions of the digits to permit proper operation of the rotational dial.

The S019 spectrometer mechanism jammed during retraction following
a SL-3 pass.

Retraction was eventually accomplished some 30 hours

subsequent to the initial failure and normal operations were restored.
Due to this S019 experiment retraction failure, warm-up procedures
for all experiments placed in the SAL were observed prior to exposure
of their mechanism to OWS environment for all subsequent experiment
operations.

�During a SL-3 S019 pass the crew reported that the film advance/
shutter lever stopped at the carriage retracted position, and could not
be moved on to the slide retracted position.

This film canister was

replaced with the new canister and the remaining exposures were taken
as scheduled during SL-3.

The failed canister was taken to an area of

subdued light (the head, with lights out and door closed), the cover was
removed, and the sliding film hatch was opened.

Inspection by feel was

performed on part of the carriage and shutter mechanism.

The crew

identified no apparent damage or discrepancy that could be corrected by
their action.

Consequently, the film canister unit was returned to earth

for malfunction analysis.

It was found from the review of acquired data that during performance of
the S019 experiment, the system was extremely sensitive to motion and
some blurs occurred on one S019 slide.

It was felt that this could have

been caused when the canister was used as a writing surface.

The PI

requested that the S019 system not be touched when taking data.
was necessary to the acquisition of clear photography.

This

The crew had

no difficulties complying with this request except when opening or closing
the shutter.

At this time momentary jiggling of the S019 system could not

be prevented.

Although S019 operations were not originally scheduled for SL-4, the

�SL-4 mission extension created additional crew experiment time and
allowed assignment of S019 to SL-4.

New S019 film canisters

replacement S019 mirror were launched.

and a

During replacement of the

S019 AMS mirror the crew reported the new mirror was dusty and had
three very narrow white streaks.

The new mirror was touched by the

crewman leaving a 3/4 inch long smudge which extended 3/ 16 inch in
from the edge.

This was caused by the gloves being packed under the

mirror and the crewman having to remove the mirror bare handed.

Numerous problems were experienced with the S019 canisters jamming
during SL-4.

The canister would not go into the slide retract position and

the problem was believed to be with the nylon sleeve on the film slides.
The first canister to jam was placed in stowage however when the second
canister jammed the crew decided to use brut force to put the lever in
the slide retract position.

The canister then operated normally

except higher forces were required on the operating mechanism.

This

canister eventually jammed again and broke when the crewman forced
it into the slide retract position.

Malfunction procedures were

performed but the canister was considered completely broken.

The

first canister was operated using excessive force but the crew felt it
could jam at any time.

Both canisters were returned for evaluation.

�There was a continual gradual degradation in the indicator on the rotation
dials of the AMS.

In addition to the luminescence coming out of the units

digit,the crew reported they were experiencing slippage between the mirror
rotation attitude control knob and the indication dial.

The belt broke and

the degree indicator did not move even though the crank was turning.

No

repair was attempted due to the radioactivity from the luminescence in
the sealed dials.

For all subsequent operations the crew had to count the

number of turns of the crank to determine the rotation settings.

The T002

sextant was used to check misalignment of the m i r r o r .

A failure of the S019 reticle light was identified on one S019 canister.
The crew reported earlier that the reticle light was dim and it was assumed
that the battery charge was too low to illuminate the bulb.

The bulb and

battery were not replaceable but the reticle was for reference only and
no data was lost due to the failure.

No corrective action was necessary

except the crew turned off the reticle light when it was not required to
verify pointing accuracy.

An additional S019 operation requirement was incorporated during SL-4
to reduce possible S019 data degradation due to OWS influenced disturbances
o n t h e SO 1 9 p o i n t i n g a c c u r a c y .

During SL-4 all ergometer and Mark I

exerciser operations were prohibited during S019 operations.

�c.

Assessment/Recommendations -

The crew recommended

that the first couple of S019 pads be relatively easy to give them a chance
to re-familiarize themselves with S019 operations.

The crew felt that

80% of all crew e r r o r s would probably occur during the first runs of the
experiment.

They also stated that S019 procedures needed to be updated

with more exact information concerning photography exposure times.

Differences existed between the forces required to operate the controls
of the different S019 canisters.

Some canister's carriage retract systems

operated easily while others were quite stiff.
normal as they were not all the same.

The PI stated that this was

The operating controls should have

been designed with appropriate stop positions to eliminate the necessity
of counting crank turns to the full extended or full retracted position.
The crew also recommended not using the locks on the shaft rotation or
extension controls as they were no longer required after placing the
controls in the unlocked position.

The S019 timelines were too close and the crew recommended that 30
seconds to 1 minute be allocated for the operator to perform a change
in S019 pointing.

They also suggested allowing 15 to 30 minutes extra

to the timeline for the first running of the experiment to allow familiarization
with the equipment.

�The crew requested that the same crewman not be asigned to an ATM
pass and a S019 pass with no time in between.

Otherwise any falling

behind in the ATM pass immediately impacted the S019 operations.

The

crewman should be allowed to go into S019 with nothing else on his mind
and not cluttered with what he had just finished.

The crew suggested having a T-handle on top of the winding valve instead
of the knob.

The knob was very slippery when their hands were moist

and a T-handle would have been better for winding the film.

E x p e r i m e n t SO 1 9 h a n d l i n g w a s e a s y o n o r b i t c o m p a r e d t o g r o u n d h a n d l i n g .
The crew felt that the carrying handle for the optical canister was a
necessity.

T h e p r o c e d u r e s f o r c h a n g i n g t h e v i e w i n g c o o r d i n a t e s d u e t o t h e NTJ Z
were very satisfactory but there was a definite source of potential error
with the sign and albegraic manipulations required to compute the
rotation.

The crew had never trained for these calculations and felt

that they should have had such training for the calculations to be apparent.

There was no problem with dark adaptation when operating experiment
S019.

The critical adjustments required to prevent dark adaptation

problems were the position of the eye to the eye piece and the focus.

The repair work performed on the AMS tilt mechanism would have been

�aided by the addition of a Skylab Inflight Maintenance facility composed
of a work bench and a high intensity light.

An optics cleaning kit would

have been valuable to remove the finger print contamination from the
AMS mirror and should be provided on future flights.
13. 22. 2. 3

S020 - UV X-Ray Solar Photography
a. Operations - Experiment S020 was scheduled to be performed

on SL-3 and SL-4 through the solar Scientific Airlock (SAL) to photograph
x-ray and extreme ultraviolet spectrums of the sun in wavelength regions
from 10 to 200 A.

Two crewmen were to perform the setup and checkout of the experiment
in the SAL.

When notified that a solar flare might occur, the crewmen

were to point the equipment at the solar disc and obtain quiet on active sun
flare exposures as required.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - Due to the parasol thermal shield

occupying the solar SAL, additional operating methods were devised.
special EVA bracket was designed and launched on SL-3.

A

The EVA bracket

was fit checked and an operational decal was installed by the SL-3 crew.
S020 was successfully performed on three SL-4 EVA's with
exposures up to one hour being obtained.

During deployment of the S020 camera the crew experienced some slight
difficulty in attaching the mount to the ATM truss.
the knob to tighten it the whole mount twisted.

In screwing down

The ball joint on the

mount was also difficult to adjust and the crew felt a larger ball would
have made it easier to adjust.

�During S020 preparation for the final SL-4 EVA the crew reported a
number of pin holes in each of the two filters.

Some were detected by

the naked eye and others were detected with a flashlight and magnifying
glass.

It was felt that the size of the holes a s described by the crew

would not allow enough light through to cause any problems.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - The interface between

the S020 equipment and the EVA bracket was well designed.

The experi­

ment hardware and procedures were adequate and experiment operations
were accomplished without any anomalies being reported.
13.22.2.4

S063 - UV Airglow Horizon Photography
a. Operations - Experiment S063 was scheduled to be

performed on SL-3 and SL-4 to photograph in the visible and ultraviolet
(UV) spectra the earth's ozone layers and twilight airglow.

The equipment to be used included the visible and UV cameras, with
related accessories, and the respective mounting structures for the
related cameras at the Scientific Airlock (SAL) and wardroom windows.
One crewman was to attach the cameras to the SAL or wardroom window,
make appropriate exposure time and shutter settings, and perform
exposures during approximately 28 selected orbits of the mission.

�b.

Usage/Anomalies -

Some difficulty was experienced

during the loading of a new Nikon camera for S063 operations.

Upon

investigation it was found that a bit of epoxy-like material prevented
the film system from positioning properly.

The crew removed this

material with a knife and the camera operated satisfactorily for the
remainder of the mission.

Due to solar SAL obstructions by the parasol thermal shield, the S019
Articulated Mirror System (AMS) was utilized to obtain some of the S063
data.

�During initial S063 operations there was a problem with a timer mal­
functioning.

Analysis established that the motor drive switch was out

of configuration and that the timer was being operated incorrectly.

This

problem necessitated the use of the crewman's wristwatch in conjunction
with the timer for all subsequent S063 operations.

Additional lighting was required for S063 operations as the crewman had
to use

a

flashlight to read the watch and timer.

The crew also requested

an additional 45 seconds preparation time between S063 exposures. At the reque
of the crew, information on how to interpret the S063 optical sight reticle
was provided by the ground and posted next to the experiment for future
reference by the crew.

S063 operations called for eight second exposure times but due to a problem
encountered in setting the viewing equipment some exposures may have
been 10 second exposures.

The marker on the viewing equipment had a

bright edge and light glinted off the leading edge of the marker through
the window.

The viewing equipment was set on this leading edge rather

than the white mark.

This added about two seconds to the exposure.

One visible photography portion of a S063 run was not obtained because
a battery powering the visible camera had tape covering one terminal.
This tape was removed and no futher problems were encountered with
the battery.

�The crew reported that during hand-held photography through the ward­
room window they tended to point the camera so as not to view through
any of the contamination on the window.

During SL-3 it was noted that an adapter between the AMS and the S063
window was missing a bolt.

This missing bolt did not interfere with S063

operations but a requirement for a replacement bolt was provided for SL-4.
The crew also reported fixing a looseness of the interface between the
mounting shear and the optical sight of the camera.

Tape was used to

tighten and thus reduce the wobble in this interface.

This provided better

resolution than previously with the camera wiggle in the system.

During the initial SL-4 S063 operation the remote timer did not operate.
This complicated the S063 operation in that the crewman had to use manual
timing in addition to tracking and controlling the rotation and tilt settings.
The problem with the timer occurred when the crew mistakenly used a
timer without any batteries.
the problem.

A new battery in the remote timer fixed

For subsequent operations the crew removed the batteries

after each use and taped them to the timer to insure nothing in the timer
would drain the batteries down.

The crew reported the ring site was looking in the wrong direction and
that it should be looking more towards the axis.

Part of the sight was

obscured such that you could not see the whole mirror.

The crewman

�assumed that although his sight was getting a truncated view the camera
was getting the full view,therefore he centered it in the circle and not the
truncated portion of the field of view.

The crewman found that by looking

right below everything, straight at the AMS mirror,he could get a better
field of view than looking through the sights.

A problem was experienced with the S063 reticle light not illuminating.
The crew checked the prime and backup batteries and they checked out
a t 1.6 v o l t s c o m p a r e d t o a 3 . 1 v o l t s p r e f l i g h t .

The battery contacts were

scraped however neither battery would illuminate the reticle light.

A

substitute battery pack was fabricated from two (2) spare "C" cells, tape,
and two (2) multimeter leads.

The substitute battery pack was installed by

inserting the probe ends of the leads into the female terminals of the
optical sight housing and normal reticle operation was restored.

c.

Assessment/Recommendations - The SO63 stowage and

unstowage went as planned and the S063 procedures related to the equip­
ment went very well.

In some instances the crew had to hurry to get

two photographs on the same target, but the tracking task using the
hardware was reasonable.

The time allocated for stowage and preparation

for S063 and AMS equipment was adequate.

The stowage location of the twin filter underneath the S063 stowage
container lid was inadequate because of poor lighting and visibility in

�in the area.

This filter stowage inadequacy was identified in training

but never corrected.

The crew stated that they should have had one extra Nikon camera body
and a minimum of six extra cassettes of 2485 fast film for photography
of targets of opportunity.
to properly photograph
board.

A great opportunity may have been missed
the Aurora because these items were not on

The crew recommended replacing the Hasselblad in the CM with

a Nikon.

The crew recommended that some type of suction-cup type mount be
supplied for cameras used in hand-held photography.
could then be restrained at any window.

These cameras

Such a restraint should be light,

have a shutter release, and so provisioned that it could be moved to any
position.

The crew recommended that the Principle Investigator (PI) provide a
small color chart identifying the different shades of gray or white that
the night airglow might look like to the crew.

This would make identification

easier for the crew and provide a commonality point between ground and
on orbit data.

Crew training for experiment S063 appeared to be inadequate as the timer
was operated incorrectly and the crew had to request information on how
to interpret the S063 reticle.

The crewman stated that the problem with

the timer was 25% incorrect configuration and 75% his e r r o r .

�The SL-4 crew stressed that due to the lack of a simulator the first
couple of runs with the S063 would have to be accepted a s training sessions.
Any operations that called for manual dexterity could not be learned by
talking through them.

The crew stated they had more difficulty with

S063 than with other more complicated experiments which they had
trained for.

Even with a relatively simple task, when you encounter

something new, a couple of familiarization runs a r e required before
it goes smoothly.

There was a confusion factor in determining the frame count from the
UV Nikon camera.

The frame count on the top of the Nikon read

differently than the frame count on the bottom of the c a m e r a .
decided to use only the bottom frame count indicator.
only one frame count indicator provided on a camera.

The crew

There should be

�13. 22. 2. 5

S073/T027 - Gegenschein Zodiacal Light and ATM
Contamination Measurement
a.

Operations - Experiment S073/T027 was scheduled for

operation during SL-2 and SL-3.

The purpose of S073 was to measure

surface brightness and polarization of night glow in visible spectrum.
The purpose of T027 was to determine changes in properties of optical
samples due to deposition of contaminates and to measure sky brightness
background due to solar illumination of contaminates.

The experiment employed the T027 Photometer canister with the automatic
programmer.

The combined photometer system and Data Acquisition

Camera (DAC) system, which was attached to the T027 Universal
Extension Mechanism (UXM), was to be mounted to and deployed through
the SAL into the space environment for acquisition of data.

S073/T027

was to require one crewman for operation.

b.

Usage/A noma lies - During SL-2, the S073/T027 photometer

system was activated and operated with no major difficulties.
ware anomalies were identified.

No hard­

During one T027 retraction, the photo­

meter system could not be lined up to effect/permit its retraction
into the Scientific Airlock (SAL) and the T027 canister.

This was a T027

�systems operations problem in that the system had been driven hard
over, past the desired alignment.

After being bumped against the OWS

and physically forced, the system was retracted into the SAL and T027
canister as required.

During SL-3, the first crew operations with the T027 UXM system was
to retract the S149

system which had been left extended through the SAL

during the unmanned period between SL-2 and SL-3.
with some difficulty.

This was accomplished

The final extension rod lacked about one inch from

full retraction and engagement of the UXM capture latch.
the SAL door was closed to permit warm up of the system.
up, the final retraction was accomplished.

At this point
After warm

The T027/S149 system was

removed from the SAL and stowed as required.

The SL-3 crew had performed the T027 photometer extension and data
gathering for only a short time when during the retraction mode it failed
to align to the required position to permit its retraction as had previously
occurred during the SL-2 mission.

All malfunction operations performed

on the system to effect its retraction failed.

Consequently, the UXM

with the photometer and S073 system attached was jettisoned on MD-8
of SL-3.

�The SL-3 and SL-4 crews utilized the T025 hardware to perform some
S073 Gegenschein and Zodiacal light photography.

The equipment was

installed upside-down in the anti-solar SAL and the occulting disc was
moved out of the cameras view.

No anomalies were reported with this

mode of operation.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations -

Experiment T027 handling

was a one man operation and was facilitated by the canister handle's proper
location through the center of gravity.

On movable items of large volume

and mass (i.e. T027, S183) handles were definitely required.

These

handle(s) should be located such that the crewman would have complete
control of the object during maneuvering operations.

No problems existed during photometer head changeout/maintenance even
with the compressed operational envelope caused by the parasol canister/
tripod protrusion.

Instead of restowing T027 in its launch container

between operations, the crew recommended that leaving the photometer
attached to the launch container lid become the nominal stowage procedure.

As T027 operations progressed, the crew noticed that the photometer
UXM rods became increasingly difficult to screw together.

This was

thought to be caused by a buildup of moisture and contamination.

Also,

during rod retraction, the crew reported that the thermal gloves were
indeed required and did not hinder the crewman's rod retraction operations.
The SL-3 crew indicated that the T027 system should have been checked
out completely and possibly operated inside the OWS prior to its use.

�13.22.2.6

S149 - Particle Collection
a.

Operations - Experiment S149 was scheduled to be

performed in four different exposure periods; during SL-2, the unmanned
period between SL-2 and SL-3, during SL-3, and the unmanned period
between SL-3 and SL-4.

Its design objective was to acquire data to assist

the determination of mass distribution of micrometeorites in near-earth space.

On orbit, the S149 Motor Drive/Cassette Support Unit (MD/CSU) was to
be unstowed, fitted with the detector cassettes, and attached to the 1027
Photometer Universal Extension Mechanism (UXM).

The T027 canister

was to then be installed in the anti-solar SAL and the S149 MD/CSU
extended into space.

Power was to be applied to the experiment and

switches configured for ground activation of cassette exposure.

In the

event of a ground command failure, the experiment had a manual control
capability which could be operated by the crew.

At completion of the exposure time, the crew was to be notified and was
to retract, remove, and stow the hardware.

The S149 detector cassettes

were to be removed from the MD/CSU and stowed in the CM for earth
return.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - During SL-2 the first of four s e t s of

S149 detector cassettes was deployed through the anti-solar SAL.

Prior

to crew return to earth, ground commanded the MD/CSU to "Open" for
cassette exposure and subsequent data collection between missions.

A problem was reported by the SL-3 crew during retraction of the SL-2

�deployed S149 MD/CSU.

During retraction operations by the crew, the

UXM tended to extend back out to space by itself.

The crew had to

maintain a continuous retraction force on the UXM rod while the SAL
door was closed (this involved a two man effort).
closed the system still lacked full retraction.

Once the SAL door was

The final extension rod

lacked about one inch from full retraction and engagement in the UXM
capture latch.

After allowing the system to warm up, the full retraction

and engagement of the capture latch was accomplished.

The T027 UXM

system canister containing S149 was then removed from the SAL, dis­
mantled and stowed.

Prior to the SL-3 deployment of the second set of S149 detector cassettes,
the T027 Photometer / UXM malfunctioned and was jettisoned, thereby
losing the hardware required to nominally deploy and expose the S149
detector cassettes.

As a back-up method for S149 deployment, hardware

had been fabricated and launched on SL-3 for EVA deployment.

Therefore,

during the first SL-3 EVA, the crew mounted the S149 MD/CSU and
bracketry on the ATM thermal shield lip and manually exposed the detector
cassettes.

It was later retrieved by EVA on SL-3 and the two sets of

detector cassettes were stowed and returned to earth.

On SL-4 the third set of cassettes was deployed and later retrieved by
EVA.

During retrieval the crew reported that the small discs on S149

�were debonding and popping off.

Several discs were lost and the others

were peeling up due to their bonding not holding.
stowed and no further action was taken.

The experiment was

The fourth set was deployed

during the final SL-4 EVA and has been scheduled for possible retrieval
during the Apollo-Soyuz Test Program (ASTP) in 1975.

�c.

Assessments/ Recommendations - S149 hardware, for both

nominal and contingency operations, was well designed and operated
as planned.

The contingency hardware used in EVA deployment

of S149 functioned well during EVA.

The bracket used in mounting the

MD/CSU on the ATM thermal shield was a little loose but caused no
problems.

The ATM thermal shield paint was scratched as the mounting

clamp was attached but this was not considered to be detrimental.

Concern was stated that proper precautions be taken to mark the return
container that housed the exposed cassettes to assure that the CM
returned cassettes were those that had been exposed.
13.22.2.7

S183 - Ultraviolet Panorama
a.

Operations - The S183 experiment was scheduled for

performance during each of the Skylab missions to obtain photographs
of a wide field of view of individual s t a r s and extended s t a r fields in the
ultraviolet.

P r i o r to activation of S183 for operation, the crewman was to be required
to prepare the S183 support hardware; the Scientific Airlock (SAL) and

�the S019 Articulated Mirror System (AMS).

Once the SAL was prepared,

the S019 AMS, used for S183 pointing, was to be inserted.

The S183

e x p e r i m e n t w a s t o b e u n s t o w e d a n d a t t a c h e d t o t h e SO 1 9 A M S .

The S183

film carrousel was to then be removed from the OWS film vault and
installed into S183 along with a 16mm Data Acquisition Camera (DAC)
for comparison photographic data.

The crewman was to then power up

S183, open the SAL door and extend the AMS mirror.

The S019 AMS

mirror was to be aligned to the desired starfield and S183 photography
was to commence as outlined by the checklist.

Once this photographic

sequence had been completed, the S183 experiment was to be deactivated,
the S019 AMS retracted and the SAL closed.

The experiment hardware

was to be dismantled, removed from the SAL and stowed.

b.

Usage/Anomalies - Throughout the entire Skylab mission

all crew comments and other related data to on-orbit operations of S183
experiment identified no operational/handling anomalies.

Problems

experienced with the S183 system were of a mechanical nature.

After

two nominal SL-2 performances with S183, the film plate jammed and
the operations were discontinued.

Malfunction procedures were performed

and the problem was isolated to the film carrousel.

Due to this problem

all subsequent photographic data for the SL-2 and SL-3 performances
was obtained through use of the 16mm DAC.

One other anomaly was

�reported and involved a focus problem with the 16mm DAC.

Changing

to another DAC did not alleviate the problem but indicated that the S183
DAC optic system was the problem.

On SL-4 a replacement DAC optic system was launched and interchanged
with the original.
S183 DAC.

This corrected the focus problem associated with the

In conjunction with the optics replacement, the crew

performed additional malfunction procedures and were successful
in correcting the S183 film carrousel anomaly.

This permitted the

experiment to be operated as scheduled throughout the mission to acquire
S183 photographic data as originally planned.

Both DAC optic systems were

returned for evaluation.

Upon removal of the carrousel from the spectrograph during the second
S183 operation on SL-4, a fragment of the SC-5 glass film plate was
discovered.

It was reported that the carrousel was misaligned 45° from

the "00" position.

A plate was protruding and the crewman pushed it into

the carrousel and stowed the carrousel.

Prior to the next operation an

alignment procedure was performed with no problems or loose glass
being reported.
position.

Pliers were used to rotate the carrousel 45° to the "00"

During the fourth operation of the spectrograph an additional

fragment of the SC-5 plate was discovered.
glass was jamming the carrousel.
the plate was unsuccessful.

It was concluded that the

A malfunction procedure to remove

In addition, an "E" clip retaining a spring

�used to force the carrousel into the indexing detents was lost.

This did

not eliminate the use of the carrousel but it did require that the crewman
check the orientation marks prior to each usage.

Extreme care had to

be used when inserting the carrousel into the spectrograph as any sudden
torquing around the cylindrical axis would misalign the unit and cause
difficult if not impossible installation.

The SL-4 crew experienced sequence problems with the logic counter
and the carrousel index due to hardware problems and procedural mix-ups.
The SL-3 crew had failed to reset the logic counter.

The SL-4 crew cycled the

plate advance reset switch and returned the reading to 01.

However the

logic counter i s completely independent of the carrousel indexing and
the film carrousel rotated to plate 33 and not back to plate 1.

This

resulted in plate 34 becoming detached from the carrousel and thus being
exposed to cabin light.

The extent of the anomaly appeared to be the loss

of one plate and degradation of two others.

The operation of S183 spectro­

graph and film carrousel was not affected.

In an effort to eliminate the

condition which caused the film plate to slip out of place a malfunction/
synchronization procedure was done to sychronize the carrousel with the
logic counter.

The SL-4 crew experienced a jamming problem with the DAC camera and
S183 magazine 04.

After performing trouble shooting procedures the

�problem was isolated to a blown fuse inside the S183 spectrograph
assembly.

The malfunction was duplicated on the quality test unit in

France and the French experiment developer recommended a workaround
procedure which would bypass the blown fuse by connecting an existing
wire from a DAC connector on the spectrograph assembly to an adjacent
connector.

The procedure was successful and S183 operations were

resumed with the carrousel.

c.

Assessment/Recommendations -

The S183 experiment

activation and manipulation was easily a one-man operation.

The latching

technique and decals on the experiment launch stowage structure were
adequate.

The crew stated that for maneuvering the large mass of S183,

the handholds supplied were a definite necessity.

In addition, the crew

recommended that on large masses (i.e. S183, T027) it would be best
to have handles provided to facilitiate two-handed manipulation for better
control during large mass handling/maneuvering.

The maneuvering

technique used was to stabilize one's body and carefully push the mass
in front of oneself.

Then let the mass and oneself move to the terminal

location making positional corrections while in flight.
considered a problem.

Braking was not

This maneuvering technique was documented by

experiment M151, Time and Motion Study.

The S183 operations timeline did not allow enough time between exposures.
One minute was added to these times to allow for crew adjustments

�in pointing and timing for the upcoming exposure.

The crew also complained

about being rushed between an ATM pass and S183 operations.

The timeline

did not allow enough time to debrief the ATM pass and then get started on the
S183 operations.

During S183 operations, the crew reported no problems

associated with the OWS lighting levels.
13.22.2.8

S201 - XUV Electronographic Camera
a.

Operations - Experiment S201 was scheduled to be performed

on SL-4 to photographically collect Extreme Ultraviolet (XUV) imagery
data on comet Kohoutek.

The experiment consisted of a canister-enclosed XUV electronographic
camera (with film-transport box), a second film-transport box, and an
EVA bracket.

The experiment was to be used in two operating configu^itions;

(1) through the anti-solar Scientific Airlock (SAL) utilizing the S019
Articulated Mirror System (AMS) a s support equipment or (2) bracketmounted to the ATM truss for EVA operations.

Power was to be provided

by the Data Acquisition Camera (DAC) cable during the EVA and SAL
operations.

Experiment S201 data was to be recorded on special NTB-3

film and returned to the Photographic Technological Laboratory at JSC
for post-flight processing.

b.

Usage/Anomalies - While performing a S201 experiment

operation through the anti-solar SAL the crew noted that the green
exposure sequence indicator light was actually brownish red and very
low in brightness and would probably be difficult to read during the EVA
operations.

During the second SL-4 EVA, three S201 data takes were

�performed even though the crew could not see the comet.

It was hoped

that the comet would be detectable on the photographic data.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - S201 experiment operations

were performed as scheduled through the anti-solar SAL and during the
SL-4 EVA's.

The procedures and equipment were adequate and the crew

reported no significant problems in performing S201.
13.22.2.9

S228 - Trans-Uranic Cosmic Rays
a.

Operations - Experiment S228 was scheduled to be performed

on SL-2, SL-3, and SL-4 to obtain knowledge of the abundance of nuclei
with an atomic number greater than 26 in the cosmic radiation.

A crewman was to deploy the detector module harness on SL-2 from floor
to ceiling in the OWS experiinent compartment using velcro straps.

Thirty-

six detector modules were to be launched and deployed with the harness.
At the conclusion of the SL-3 mission, one module was to be removed
and returned.

One S228 detector module was to be launched on SL-4

and deployed during the first SL-4 EVA.

It was to be retrieved during

the last SL-4 EVA and returned to earth along with the remaining harness
detector modules.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - Experiment S228 was performed as

scheduled and no anomalies were reported.

During the SL-4 EVA deploy­

ment, the crew observed some expansion of the experiment package which
was an indication of outgassing.
normal limits.

This bulging was expected and was within

On the final Skylab EVA, this experiment package was

�retrieved and was stowed with the remaining harness detector modules
for return to earth.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - Experiment S228 deploy­

ment and retrieval went as scheduled and no crew systems assessments
were reported.

�13.22.2.10
a.

S230 - Magnetospheric Particle Composition
Operations - Experiment S230 was scheduled for perfor­

mance during SL-3 and SL-4 EVA's.

Its purpose was to acquire data for

measuring fluxes and composition of precipitating magnetospheric ions
and trapped particles through the use of a foil collection technique.

The experiment hardware was composed of two (2) collector spools,
two (2) inner collector assemblies, two (2) outer collector assemblies
and two (2) return pouches.

The collector spools, providing support

for the inner and outer collector assemblies, were to be launched on SL-1
attached to the ATM deployment truss D2 handrail.

During an EVA on

both SL-3 and SL-4 the crew was to retrieve one (1) of the two remaining
collector assemblies.

These collector assemblies were to be stowed

and returned to earth for analysis.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - On the first SL-3 EVA the two (2) outer

collector assemblies of S230 were retrieved and a calibration shield was
installed on the forward inner collector spool.

During the final SL-3

EVA the crew retrieved one of the two remaining inner collector
assemblies.

It was stowed in the CM with the previously retrieved

outer collector assemblies and returned to earth.

On SL-4 a new inner collector assembly was launched and on the first

�SL-4 EVA was attached to the empty collector spool.

During a sub­

sequent EVA for ATM film resupply and Kouhotek photography the
crew reported that the S230 calibration shield was missing.

Evidently,

the shield had been brushed by one of the crew during EVA operations
and knocked loose.

On the final SL-4 EVA the remaining two (2) inner

collector assemblies were retrieved.

During AM repressurization

operations, one of the two samples was damaged by the rush of air from
equalization valve 311.
10% of the sample.

The crew reported the damage to effect approximately

The samples were placed in the CM stowage and

returned to earth.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - The EVA procedures

for the collector assembly retrievals were straightforward and no problems
were reported.

The crew reported that they were very careful during

retrieval so as not to touch and consequently contaminate the collectors.

The calibration shield and the one (1) collector assembly deployment were
performed without any reported crew interface problems.

The restraint/

stability provisions were considered adequate for performing the S230
crew tasks.

�13.22.2.11
a.

S232 - Barium Plasma Observations
Operations - Experiment S232 was scheduled to be per­

formed on SL-4 to obtain data necessary for determining the effects of
plasma conductivity and geomagnetic activity upon the motion of barium
plasma.

The experiment operations involved one crewman whose objectives were
to photograph the barium cloud injected to outer space by a ground launched
rocket.

The crewman was notified three hours prior to the scheduled

launch as to the photographic settings and procedures.

A Nikon 35mm

camera was attached to the universal mount and then mounted to the OWS
wardroom window to obtain the photographic data.

A total of seven barium

rocket launches were scheduled during SD-4 with the crewman obtaining
a minimum of 40 photographs.
b.
planned.

Usage/Anomalies - Experiment S232 was performed as

Due to problems involved with the rocket launches and resulting

launch cancellations all premission planned photographic data was not
obtained.

The crew reported that the experiment set-up was a lengthy

operation and took approximately two (2) hours to complete.

The barium

injection was visible to the naked eye and was photographed by the crew
using numerous time exposures.

During these photographic sessions the

crew reported some difficulties with damping the oscillations of the
camera/universal mount after exposure actuation.

As the experiment

�progressed and the crew technique improved these oscillations were
reduced.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - S232 experiment photo­

graphy was performed during SL-4 and photographs of the barium plasma
infection were obtained.

Other than the initial oscillation problem with

the camera/universal mount the hardware performed satisfactorily.
13. 22. 2. 12
a.

S233K - Kohoutek Photometric Photography
Operations - Kohoutek Photometric Photography, experiment

S233K, was scheduled to be performed during SL-4 to obtain a series of
visible light photograph's suitable for photometry and to provide a synoptic
history of the comet Kohoutek.

Experiment S223K used the Nikon 35mm camera and mounting braketry
to obtain photographs through the left viewing window of the CM and the STS
window.

The crewman was required to take a sequence of photographs

every 12 hours throughout the comet acquisition periods.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - S233K was performed throughout the

designated periods of SL-4 and photographs of comet Kohoutek were
obtained.

All pre-mission scheduled photographic exposures could not

be obtained by the crew due to window field of view limitations and
faintness of the comet.
c.

Assessments/Recommendations - The S233K operations

were straightforward and were performed as scheduled.
anomalies were reported.

No hardware

�13.22.3

Technology Experiments

13.22.3.1

D024 - Thermal Control Coatings
a.

Operations - Experiment D024 sample panels retrieval

was scheduled for the SL-2 EVA and for the last EVA of SL-4.

The

equipment for experiment D024, consisting of two thermal control coating
sample and two polymeric film sample panels, was mounted and launched

�externally on the AM support structure.

Experiment D024 was not to require a specific EVA for its performance
as it was to be performed in conjunction with the ATM experiments
film retrieval.

D024 sample retrieval was to require two crewman

(designated EV1 and EV2).

EV2 was to retrieve two sample panels, stow

them in the return container, then pass the container to EV1 who was to
temporarily stow it in the AM.

Upon completion of the EVA activities

the sample return container was to be stowed in the CM for return to
earth.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - Experiment D024 sample panel retrieval

was performed as scheduled on SL-2 with one thermal control coating
sample panel and one polymeric film strip sample panel being returned.
Due to the total time in orbit it was decided that the remaining two sample
panels had received adequate exposure by the end of SL-3 and that they
should be retrieved on the last EVA of SL-3 and returned to earth.

To

alleviate handling of multiple items the crewman placed the sample into
the return container prior to removing the pip pin.

It was noted that

some of the samples were becoming slightly debonded, although none
were actually loose or lost as the samples were put into the return
containers.

After the return of the remaining two samples on SL-3,

two additional sample panels with return container were launched on SL-4
for deployment on the first EVA and retrieval at the end of the mission.

�During deployment of the sample it was difficult for the crewman to
align the snaps due to lack of visibility and lack of dexterity caused by
the EVA glove.

However, he was eventually able to attach the panel by

touching the center samples with his finger, possibly contaminating them.
The samples were retrieved on the final SL-4 EVA and returned to earth.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - The problem the crew

experienced with the deployment of the sample panels could have possibly
been eliminated with the addition of guide pins and alignment marks on
the mounting plates and the sample panels.

However, the experiment

a s it was originally designed, did not call for the deployment of the sample
on orbit as they were launched in place.

The retrieval of the D024 samples was quite easy to perform per the
checklist.

The crewman was able to fold the retrieved specimen and

correctly stow it in the appropriate return container slot.

The crew

reported no problems in retrieving and stowing the D024 samples and
stated that the overall design was adequate.

The crew voiced their

opinion that a heel restraint would have been helpful at the D024 location
to assist their stabilization when retrieving samples.
13.22.3.2

M512 (M551, M552, M553, M555) - Materials Processing
In Space
M479 - Zero Gravity Flammability
M518 - Multipurpose Electric Furnace System
a.

Operations -

The M512 experiment facility was designed

to utilize a common spacecraft interface for a group of experiments in

�in materials science and technology.

It was scheduled to be used

on SL-2, SL-3, and SL-4.

The facility was to permit exploration of space manufacturing applications
of molten metal phenomena such as metal flow, freezing patterns, thermal
stirring, fusion across gaps, and surface tension.
be required to perform the experiments.

One crewman was to

The basic functions performed

were to be installation of the experiment equipment or specimen in the
work chamber, systems control operation, observation, photography, and
monitoring of the experiment, and removal and stowage of the equipment
and specimen after experiment completion.

Experiments M551, M552,

M553, M555, M518, and M479 were to utilize the M512 facilities.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - During initial use of the M512 facility

it was believed that the electron beam gun had shifted due to loads
experienced at launch.

Upon later analysis the problem was found to

be with a new mirror installed at KSC.

The mirror was reversed so

only one of two retaining screws could be fastened when mating it inside
the facility.

During a performance of the M553 experiment, difficulty was experienced
with the installation of the shield over the electron beam gun.

This

problem was caused by a hardware installation sequence error.

The

shield should have been installed first instead of last a s performed by
the crewman.

�Due to M512 operational problems the crew was asked to use the main
circuit breaker to shut off the M512 facility power when performing
experiment M553 spherical forming.

During cutting of the M553 speci­

men stinger, the jaw of the cutting pliers broke.

Wheel number one of

the experiment was completed and wheel number two had two balls that
were not released and three that were released.

Wheel two was returned

to earth along with the released specimen balls from wheels one and two.

A long period of time was required to obtain a sufficient vacuum in the
facility on orbit.

To obtain the vacuum the crew had to leave the vent

valve in the "Vent" rather than the "Open" position during their sleep
period.

Experiment M479 was performed at the end of SL-4 with the only anomaly
reported being with the water quench system.

The lower nozzle appeared

to be completely plugged and the upper nozzle emitted only a dribble.

The

crewman completely reserviced the system but it still did not function
properly.

In order to get any spray at all the crewman had to grab the

accumulator knob and pull sharply on it to force water through the
system.

There was no time for extensive trouble shooting but the problem

was believed to be with a water supply valve not being turned on.

While burning sample number three the crewman stated there was an
operator error in that he left the chamber repress valve in the open

�position.

The only effect was the sample burned slightly longer.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - M512 experiment perfor­

mance on orbit was similar to on-ground training with exception of the
times required to heat or cool the experiment specimen and to obtain
a sufficient vacuum in the facility.

The crew stated that the training unit

was excellent, just like the flight unit, but they never experienced
pumping the facility to a vacuum during their training.

Consequently,

the first time the vacuum gauge was used on orbit the crew thought that
the slow bleed down time indicated a faulty gauge.

As experienced,a

longer time than expected was necessary to obtain an acceptable operational
vacuum in the facility.

During M553 operations in the M512 facility no problem developed with
the facility or the accessory equipment.

However, pressure build up

in the facility chamber during the firing of the electron beam gun occurred
more rapidly on orbit than experienced during training.

In some instances

the balls on the M553 experiment wheel stings formed a pear shape or did
not release.

The crew experienced no problems in handling the specimens

as long as they observed proper cool down times.

The crew enjoyed performing the M518 Multipurpose Electric Furnace
experiment because it was new and different.

The equipment worked

as designed and was easily installed into the M512 facility chamber.
The specimen cartridges were numbered (identified) in an excellent
manner to permit their insertion and cooidination.

The operations

�were clearly defined and no problems were experienced performing
the M518 series in the M512 facility.

The M551 experiment welds looked basically the same as during training
with the exception of a non-round dwell pattern on the stainless steel
specimen.

The welds built up quicker in flight than on the ground.

No

high external chamber temperatures were experienced during any of
the facility operations.

All M479 specimen samples were in excellent condition and the burning
had no effect on the view ports.

The view ports remained clean throughout

the experiment performance.

Restraints associated with M512 were no problem.

The foot restraint

grid was used only in the beginning of the experiment and was later
discarded.

Handholds were adequate.

�The M512 chamber hatch did not appear to have proper friction hinges
as per the experiment design requirements.

No detrimental crew

comments were received but during video downlink of M512 facility
operations the hatch was observed to be floating free
13.22.3.3

T002 - Manual Navigation Sightings
a.

Operations -

Experiment T002 was scheduled to be

performed on SL-2, SL-3, and SL-4 with batteries for the sextant and
stadimeter being resupplied on SL-3 and SL-4.

Sightings were to be

distributed uniformly throughout the mission on a non-interference basis.

The crewmember performing the experiment was to remove and stow
the wardroom window shield, obtain and install the T002 hood over the
wardroom window and obtain the sextant or stadimeter from locker W740.
The batteries for the sextant and stadimeter were to be installed by the
crewmember during experiment activation.

Wardroom lights near the

wardroom window were to be dimmed and the reticle light adjusted before
the crewman proceeded with the experiment sightings.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - Experiment T002 was performed on

all three Skylab missions and was satisfactorily completed.

Due to a

residue pattern formed on the wardroom window during SL-3 and SL-4,
the operator had to move around during his sightings to avoid viewing
through this residue.
affected his sightings.

He was concerned that his moving may have

�The SL.-4 crew emphasized the importance of body position and posture
in obtaining accurate sightings with the T002 sextant.

During an early

operation the crewman developed muscle cramps in his arms and legs.
The crewman devised a restraint system to hold him over to the window
using a long strap hooked over the S063 bar.
improved the accuracy of his sightings.

The crewman felt this

The crewman also stated that

there was a distinct difference in ease, ability and accuracy you get
whether the stars were located up and down relative to your body posture
or left to right.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations -

The T002 window hood

which was used to shield the wardroom window from internal reflection
was considered a definite necessity.

The crewman found it difficult to

hold the sextant steady during sightings and also felt it would be extremely
helpful to have the sextant readout inside the reticle so you would not lose
sight of the star while taking readings.

The stowage configuration and

location in locker W740 was excellent and the foot restraint provisions at
the wardroom window were considered adequate.

The crew stated it was difficult to remove their fingers from the pointing
control knobs on the sextant without moving it.
ment but

They could get a good align­

when they released their fingers the knob would move slightly.

This created some mediocre scatter in the system.

The control knobs

should have been easy to move but not so sensitive that they could not
remove their fingers without moving it.

The crew also stated the knobs

on the filters were poorly designed in that they could not tell whether they

�w e r e in. o r o u t .

The crew experienced pointing difficulties due to the shape of the case and
the location of the strap.

This made it difficult to hold the sextant in the

proper position at the window.

The crew stated they needed phosflorescent

alignment marks to get the line of sight directed between two s t a r s .

They

also suggested the use of a colored filter s o that they would not lose track
of which star they were sighting.
sextant at odd angles.

This was a problem when holding the

The system should have been designed so that all

controls could be operated without the crewman removing his eyes from
the reticle sight.
13.22.3.4

T003 - In-Flight Aerosol Analysis
a.

Operations -

Experiment T003 was scheduled to be

performed on SL-2, SL-3, and SL-4.

Multiple measurements were to

be taken daily to determine the concentration and size distribution of
particles suspended in the OWS atmosphere.

A crewman was to transport the portable self-contained aerosol analyzer
throughout the OWS observing the readout and recording the data on the
T003 data cards.

At the completion of each mission the data cards

and the filter impactor unit from the aerosol analyzer were to be
returned to earth.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - Operation of experiment T003 went

as scheduled with all functional objectives being accomplished.

Results

�showed that the OWS was cleaner than most hospital operating rooms
with a particle count of 3000 per cubic foot.

The crew reported that T003

readout time was adequate for recording the data on the data cards.

The

only anomaly reported was a filter change which was missed due to a
tardiness of the detailed pads up-linked from the ground.
c.

Assessment/Re commendations - Experiment T003 operations

were straight forward and no problems were experienced in stabilizing
at the various sample stations.

The crew did report that the data cards

were not large enough to allow sufficient area to record all the information.
13.22.3.5

T025 - Coronagraph Contamination Measurement
a.

Operations - Experiment T025 was scheduled to be performed

on SL-2, SL-3, and SL-4 through the solar Scientific Airlock (SAL) to
determine the existence and presence of any changes in particle atmosphere
due to transfer firings, waste dumps, vehicle orientation, and time decay
of such atmospheric concentrations.

The T025 experiment equipment to be used was the coronagraph canister
including the occulting discs and extension boom assembly with the
photographic equipment.

One crewman was to set up the experiment

apparatus in the SAL and complete a 27 photographic exposure sequence
during five (5) non-consecutive orbits.

�b.

Usage/Anomalies - T025 was not performed as scheduled

because the solar SAL was occupied by the parasol thermal shield.

All

T025 operations were cancelled for SL-2 as alternate performance
methods had to be developed.

The SL-3 crew utilized the T025 hard­

ware to obtain some experiment S073 Gegenschein and Zodiacal light
photography.

The equipment was installed upside-down in the anti-

solar SAL and the occulting disc was moved out of the c a m e r a ' s view.
During this operation the crew used their finger to control the Data
Acquisition Camera (DAC) shutter release.
fatiguing.

This was difficult and

In readiness for subsequent operations the DAC was prepared

for operation with the DAC push button cable.

However, the SL-3 crew was

not asked to repeat the experiment.

As an alternate method of performing T025 and viewing the Kohoutek comet,
an EVA bracket was designed and launched on SL-3.

The SL-3 crew fit

checked the bracket to the T025 experiment and attached operational decals
readiness for EVA deployment on SL-4.

Problems occurred during the first SL-4 EVA operation of T025 which
prohibited the acquiring of all planned data.
planned 40 were obtained.

Five photographs out of a

The view finder on the camera was loose and

the shutter speed knob came off during operation.

The crewman was able

to replace the knob but it did not engage enough to permit use.

During

�EVA trouble shooting with the T025 equipment, the thermal blanket
cover was removed.

The T025 hardware was stowed in the AM to

permit further trouble shooting at a more opportune time in the OWS.
After completion of the EVA, the crew successfully repaired the shutter
speed knob and the T025 hardware was utilized during subsequent EVA's
to obtain ultraviolet and visible photographs of the Kohoutek comet.

All

subsequent T025 experiment performances were without incident.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - The T025 experiment

was performed from the SAL without any problems.

The T025 hookup

with the extension rod worked very well and the procedures/checklists
and hardware used for night photography were adequate.

Pad updates

for the experiment should remind the crew to inhibit the fire sensors
prior to experiment initiation.

The fire alarm was initiated on SL-3

when the SAL was opened with T025 installed.

T025 was not originally designed for EVA use but with the addition of
the specially designed EVA bracket ultraviolet and visible photographs
of the Kohoutek comet were obtained.
13.22.3.6

T027 - Sample Array
a.

O p e r a t i o n s - T h e T 0 2 7 S a m p l e A r r a y (SA) e x p e r i m e n t w a s

scheduled to be performed during SL-2 to acquire data for determining
the change in optical properties of various transmissive windows, mirrors,
and defraction gratings, caused by deposition of contaminants found

�about the orbital assembly.

The experiment equipment included a canister system with one extension
rod, an ejection rod, and a launch stowage container.

One crewman was

to prepare the T027 SA experiment and then install it through the antisolar Scientific Airlock (SAL) for exposure to the space environment.
Upon completion of the exposure the SA was to be retracted, removed
from the SAL and re stowed in its launch container for return to earth.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - The T027 SA experiment was installed

in the SAL and deployed as planned.

Due to the parasol deployment and

resulting requirements for usage of the anti-solar SAL by other e x p e r i ­
ments, the T027 SA exposure time was reduced.

It was then removed

from the SAL, stowed in its launch container and returned for earth
analysis.

T h e o n l y p r o b l e m i d e n t i f i e d d u r i n g o p e r a t i o n of t h e T 0 2 7 S A o c c u r r e d
during closing of the array valve prior to retraction and removal of
the SA system from the SAL.

When the crewman closed the array

valve, by turning the vane control, the valve did not seat completely.
Force in excess of that recommended during training was applied to the
vane control, and the valve was closed.

The problem was attributed

to the low temperature of the system, forming frost, preventing the
normal closure of the array valve.

�c.

Assessments/Recommendations -

For some reason the

requirement to let the T027 SA system warm up prior to its removal
from the SAL had been crossed out of the checklist and omitted from
the experiment pad.

This procedural information concerning warm up

prior to removal was required, and should not have been omitted, as
indicated by the minor problem which occurred as a result of its
omission.
13.22.4

Operations Experiments

13.22.4.1

M487 - Habitability/Crew Quarters
a.

Operations - Experiment M487 was scheduled for operation

on each of the three Skylab missions and was charged with evaluating and
reporting on the OWS habitability provisions.

The methods of M487 data collection were to depend primarily on the
crewmen.

Where possible the experiment task was to augment or coincide

with the operational activity to be observed.

When the activity was not

scheduled or predictable, the elements of the activity were to be grouped
into a staged demonstration to optimize time and effort.

First the crew­

man was to obtain, calibrate as required, and position the various
monitoring devices throughout the OWS.

The crewman was to then

obtain, position, and operate the various equipment that was required
for photography and data collection.

�b.

Usage/Anomalies -

M487 was performed as planned through­

out each Skylab mission, accomplishing all pre-mission requirements.

One hardware problem occurred during the SL-2 mission.

During the

initial calibration of the sound level meter/frequency analyzer the crew­
man could not obtain the correct calibration factor.

A second calibration

was attempted at a later time and the correct factor was obtained.

The

cause of the problem encountered during the first calibration attempt
was undetermined.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - The hardware supplied

by this experiment to supplement the crews' observations was considered
unnecessary as was shown by its lack of use throughout the Skylab missions.
For this reason, few comments concerning the M487 hardware were
available.

It was reported that both the ambient and digital thermometers

required a lengthy time to stabilize when measurements were made where
a large change in temperature was involved.

Both the digital and ambient

thermometers were used over the three Skylab missions in support of
other hardware evaluation and the 10' tape was used in several science
demonstrations.

These items should be included on future missions as

operational support hardware.

Some crewmembers expressed their dislikings toward the lengthy and
time consuming cn-board debriefings.

They felt that this orbit time

�could be better utilized and that the debriefings could be conducted
post-mis sion.

It was felt that the data compiled from M487 would form the basis for
verifying existing spacecraft habitability criteria and would establish
requirements for more advanced spacecraft.
13.22.4.2

M509 - Astronaut Maneuvering Equipment
a.

Operations - Experiment M509 was scheduled to be

performed on SL-2 and SL-3.

Each test pilot was to perform four runs

with the Automatically Stabilized Maneuvering Unit (ASMU) while an
observer assisted.

Runs 1, 2, and 4 were designated to be performed

unsuited whereas run 3 was to be performed while wearing the Skylab
Extravehicular Mobility Unit (EMU).

Prior to the experiment performance, the M509 hardware and support
hardware was to be unstowed and reconfigured for operation, including
Propellant Supply System (PSS) bottle and battery charging.

Once the

experiment preparation was completed and the OWS forward experiment
area was cleared of equipment not required for the experiment, the
observer was to assist the test pilot in donning the ASMU.

The test

pilot was to then undock from the donning station and perform the
designated M509 maneuvers.

Upon completing these maneuvers, the

subject was to return to the donning station and dock the ASMU, thereby
concluding the experiment performance.

�b.

Usage/Anomalies - The M509 experiment performance

for SL-2 was limited to operational configuration and checkout.

Due

to the OWS meteoroid shield problem and resulting high temperatures
i t w a s c o n c l u d e d t h a t a h a z a r d o u s c o n d i t i o n m i g h t e x i s t if t h e M 5 0 9
batteries were discharged.

If the batteries were used an internal short

might have occurred resulting in a possible explosion.

The ASMU, PSS

bottle rack and AM N£ recharge station were reconfigured to their
inflight usage configurations and the PSS bottles were recharged.

After

reconfiguration/checkout of the M509 ASMU and the PSS bottle installation,
the unit was powered up from OWS power while still in the docking station
and the backpack and Hand-Held Maneuvering Unit (HHMU) thrusters
were fired.

Between missions, onground testing determined that the flight M509
batteries were acceptable for use and on SL.-3 and SL-4 the experiment
was successfully operated.

The unit was flown in all four modes, both

suited and unsuited.

One modification was made to the planned M509 activities after the first
suited performance.

During this performance the test pilot noted that

the Life Support Umbilical (LSU) imparted undersirable dynamic forces
on the ASMU during maneuvering.

In hopes of reducing/eliminating

these dynamic effects the crew stripped the LSU of all wiring and

�insulation, leaving only the 02 line.

This modified LSU was then used

on all subsequent M509 and T020 suited runs not utilizing the Secondary
Oxygen Packs (SOP).

During a SL-4 suited run battery problems arose causing the experiment
run to be shortened.

The batteries were being depleted much faster than

anticipated due to time consuming delays during the M509 run.

One delay

was experienced when the crewman encountered problems attaching the
AM recharge station quick disconnect to the PSS bottle connector.

An

additional delay was experienced when the SOP was depleted and had to
be replaced by the LSU.

During both these delays the ASMU was on

battery power thus draining the battery.
batteries to the 26 volt minimum

These delays drained both M509

and the M509 run was terminated after

completing only 2 / 3 of the run's objectives.

M509 was performed through­

out the remainder of SL-4 and no anomalies were reported.
c.

Assessment/ Recommendations -

well designed and easy to fly.

The M509 ASMU was

Intuitive skills, common to all astronauts

because of their flight training, was all that was required to navigate
M509.

Ground based training for this experiment using the Denver

simulator was not necessary.

This was verified during an unscheduled

M509 performance by a crewmember who had never trained for M509
nor had ever used the training simulator.

His flight was performed with

ease and was considered a complete success.

�During the M509 maneuvers four potential flying modes were evaluated
and, in order of preference, were DIRECT, CMG, RATE GYRO and
HHMU.

The DIRECT mode was far the easiest and the more intuitive

to control.

The CMG and RATE GYRO modes were very good but the

precesion inherent to these modes was unnecessary for a future EVA
maneuvering device.

The HHMU was given a poor rating and was

recommended by the crew to be deleted from consideration as an EVA
maneuvering mode.

The difficulty with the HHMU was in locating the

center of gravity which turned out to be an important factor in this
maneuvering mode.

In future testing of a maneuvering unit the HHMU

should be eliminated from consideration because it was not an intuitive
device to operate, as it required unique and undeveloped skills.

In flying M509 actual EVA conditions were simulated to evaluate all
phases of maneuvering.
the LSU and SOP.

Suited operations were conducted using both

The SOP configuration was preferred over the LSU

configurations because of the dynamic effects present with the LSU.
The LSU, due to its mass and elastic characteristics, imparted an
inertia on the M509 ASMU which proved to be an annoyance to the test
pilot, in that guidance corrections to the unit were constantly required.

Safety was a principle concern in pre-mission design and planning of
M509.

But due to the ease of operations and maneuverbility of the

�ASMU the pre-mission concern of inadvertant and possible catastrophic
collisions was shown to be invalid.

The ASMU, though very large and

h e a v y , w a s n o t b o t h e r s o m e o r i n c a p a b l e of b e i n g h a n d l e d b y t h e t e s t
pilot.

The test pilots were confident that even with the large ASMU

m a s s and a maximum maneuvering velocity of 3-4 f t / s e c that they
could, in the event of a thruster failure, reposition themselves and
absorb the energy of an impact without bodily or hardware damage.

The M509 hardware and supporting equipment was well designed both
from a functional and integration standpoint with one exception.

The

ASMU had too many controls located in too many diverse and remote
positions.

If possible these controls should be relocated on a common

panel to facilitate crew operations.

The safety goggles and ear plugs

were required and were used by all crewmen.

The unstowage/stowage

of the M509 hardware was straightforward with no problems occurring.
PSS bottle charging required the crew to translate to and from the AM
recharge, station with the bottles.

This entire procedure,including

recharge, took less than 10 minutes to perform and it was reported that
the bottles during recharging only reached a temperature of approximately
100°F.

Translation with the bottle was accomplished by the crewman holding

the bottle ahead of him, pushing off and then following along behind the hardwar
Prior to reaching his destination, through a mental integrative process, the
crewmember could reposition himself between the hardware and contact

�point for a safe landing.

The ASMU was a good translational device but was found to be severly
limited in its use as a workstation/platform for performing work related
tasks.

In performing relatively easy tasks, the crewman's body torques

would over saturate the ASMU gyros and cause a loss of stability.

To

perform EVA tasks the ASMU, as designed, would have to be docked/ •
restrained at the designated work area to achieve the necessary stability
required to perform the task.

The next generation EVA maneuvering device should be back mounted
with the pilot-to-backpack restraint system providing a tight, secure
and comfortable (seat padding recommended) fit.
should be designed as an one man function.

Backpack donning/doffing

The backpack must have six

degrees of freedom, with the propulsion thrusters located around the
center of gravity of the pilot/backpack combination, and should be hand
controlled.

The hand controllers should have the capability of being

relocated/moved during flight to allow multiple working postures for the
pilot.

The DIRECT mode should be selected as the maneuvering mode

with a capability of a 3-4 f t / s e c velocity.

Restraints/docking provisions

(i. e. manipulative arms) must be provided to adequately stabilize the pilot
and permit him to perform the designated task.

A backpack spotlight

should be incorporated to provide the pilot with an illumination source
at his work area.

Separate isolation valves/circuit breakers for each

�thruster or set of thrusters should be provided to insure against a single
point failure.

The backpack should contain all systems required for

EVA such that no umbilical or LSU is required.

The unit should contain

a pressure control system, oxygen system and maneuvering system with
all system monitoring displays/readouts being illuminated.

With such a

system the pilot could suit up, don and plug in the maneuvering unit and
perform an EVA as a free entity.

�13.22.4.3

T013 - Crew/Vehicle Disturbances
a.

Operations -

Experiment T013 was scheduled to be

performed on SL-3 to measure the effects of crew motions on the
dynamics of manned spacecraft.

Two crewmen were required for T013 operations; one designated as the
subject and the other as the observer.

A third crewman was required

during performance of the worst case control system input task.

Data

was to be collected employing the 16mm Data Acquisition Camera (DAC),
mounted in the OWS forward compartment.

The Limb Motion Sensor

(LIMS) suit assembly including the LIMS data cable was to be removed from
stowage.

The subject was to don the LIMS suit and then connect the experi­

ment data cable between the LIMS and the Experiment Data System (EDS).
Prior to start of the experiment performance, the observer was to don a
communications headset and turn on the AM tape recorder and cameras
for data collection.

The Force Measurement Units (FMU) were to then be

uncaged and calibrated.

During the experiment performance of body and

limb motions and free soaring activities, the observer was to assist in
securing the subject to and releasing him from FMU No. 1 at appropriate

�times during the experiment.

Upon conclusion of the experiment performance,

the cameras, AM tape recorder and the EDS were to be turned off and the
FMU's caged and pinned.

The EDS data cable was to then be disconnected

and stowed together with LIMS suit assembly in the T013 stowage container.
b.

Usage/Anomalies -

by the experiment checklist.

T013 was performed on SL-3 as designated

Upon completion of the experiment performance

the crew reported that the experiment had functioned as planned.

T013 was performed on SL-3 but during the first pushoff of the soaring
activities a malfunction occurred in the load cells of FMU No. 2 causing a
partial loss of data.

Malfunction procedures were performed on both

FMU's and deformation of the load cell flexures was uncovered.

As part

of the malfunction procedures a FMU calibration was performed and the
results indicated that load cells 4 and 5 of FMU No. 2 had failed and were
considered lost.

To satisfy the experiment mission requirements, a rerun of the T013
soaring activities was performed, but the crew failed to activate the
T013 Experiment Data System (EDS) and no experiment data was received.

Again, in attempt to satisfy the experiment requirements, a third run
of T013 was performed by the SL-3 crew and all ATM and photography
data was successfully gathered.
requirements.

This performance satisfied all T013

�During performance of the T013 worst case input task only two crewmen
participated instead of the three required.

Since the third man, designated

as observer, did not contribute to the data input and was required only for
safety reasons, the omission of his participation had no effect on the
experiment results.
c.

Assessments/Recommendations - Other than the FMU

anomaly, experiment T013 operations were straightforward and easy to
perform.

Stowage/unstowage was simple, the LIMS suit fit well and the

camera positioning was no problem.

Soaring between the FMU's was

quite easy, in fact, the FMU's could have been placed much farther apart
without effecting the crewman's soaring accuracy.

The FMU's placed

as they were, were so close that it was difficult for the performing
crewman to soar between them and land feet first.

During the worst case task, the second performer could not soar between
the film vault and the food lockers.

He had to soar between the food lockers

and the lockers adjacent to the film vault.

During the simultaneous

soaring both crewmen performed their push-offs together but due to the
differences in soaring distances their impacts were not simultaneous.

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13.22.4.4

T020 - Foot Controlled Maneuvering Unit
a.

Operations - Experiment T020 was scheduled to be

performed in the OWS forward compartment area during SL-3 and SL-4.
A total of 5 runs by each test pilot was scheduled with the Foot Controlled
Maneuvering Unit (FCMU) while a second crewman acted as observer,
OWS cameraman and safety man.

Of the 5 performances conducted by each

test pilot three were to be operated in shirtsleeves and two while suited.

Prior to the experiment performance, the T020 hardware and support hardware
were to be unstowed and reconfigured for operation, including M509 PSS
bottle and battery charging.

Once experiment preparation was completed

and the OWS forward experiment area was cleared according to the T020
checklist, the observer was to assist the test pilot in donning the T020
maneuvering equipment.

The test pilot would then undock from the T020

docking station and perform the required maneuvers.

Upon completion of

these maneuvers, the subject, with aid from the observer, would return
to the docking station and dock the FCMU, thereby concluding the experiment
performance.
b.

Usage/Anomalies -

Experiment T020 was performed as

planned on SL-3 with the test pilots operating the FCMU five times.
The first three runs were performed in shirtsleeves while the last two runs
were flown suited.
Life Support

The two suited runs were conducted utilizing both the

Umbilical (LSU) and Secondary Oxygen Pack (SOP) configurations.

On SL-4, T020 was performed twice.

The first run was performed suited whereas

the second was performed in shirtsleeves.

�Two modifications were added to T020 during its performance on SL-3.

After

the first maneuvering operation with T020 it was evident that a better
restraint system was needed.

A modified system was devised on ground

and then information was uplinked to the crew.

This restraint system

provided the added stability sought by the test pilot and was used through­
out the remaining SL-3 T020 performances.

The second modification was performed by the SL-3 crew on the LSU in
hopes of reducing or eliminating the dynamic effects it imparted on the
maneuvering units.

Using a scapel and sissors, the LSU was stripped of

all wiring and insulation, leaving only the 02 line.

This LSU was used on

all subsequent M509 and T020 suited runs not utilizing the SOP configuration.

Because of the lack of rigidity experienced with the T020 restraint system
during SL-3 a new rigid restraint system was designed and fabricated
between missions.

This rigid restraint system was launched on SL-4

and used by the crew in their T020 operations.

The first SL-4 T020 run was performed suited and utilized the new rigid
restraint system.

The crew reported that the system worked extremely

well and reduced practically all body/backpack motions.

The second T020 performance was conducted in shirtsleeves.

The crew

operated T020 with both the rigid and original restraint systems.

Again,

�the rigid system was considered highly effective whereas the non-rigid
system was considered extremely poor.

This was the last evaluation of experiment T020 a s scheduling considerations
prohibited any additional performances.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - T020 stowage/unstowage

was fairly simple, although between operations it was left stowed in such
a manner that would not require much time to reactivate. . . a casual type
of stowage.

The T020 restraints and harness were not satisfactory.
was improvised and is definitely required.

Also, seat padding

The restraints did not give

the operator a secure or tight feeling in the unit.

The harness, due

to its unusual design, was difficult to don and connect.

The backpack

assembly was not contoured correctly and was too loose when donned.
Incorporation of the required restraint system removed most of the
sloppiness between the backpack and FCMU and gave the pilot a more
secure fit with the T020 hardware.

The shoe plates seemed to work well although it was easy to kick your
foot/shoe plate out of the FCMU.
thrusters were too high.

Also the shoe plate forces for the

These seemingly high shoe plate forces could

be attributed to a possible deconditioning of the crew's leg muscles due
to the zero gravity environment.

�T020 must have six (6) degrees of freedom to be fairly evaluated.

As

designed, it is completely unacceptable as a maneuvering vehicle and
the crew sees no advantage in its concept of foot-controlled maneuvering.
13. 22. 5

Student Project Experiments

13.22.5.1

ED 23 - Ultraviolet from Quasars
a.

Operations - Student experiment ED 23 was scheduled

to be performed on SL-3 a s an additional data pass of baseline experi­
ment S019 to obtain spectrographic data of selected quasars.

The crew was to use experiment S019 as support equipment for ED 23.
With S019 mounted in the Scientific Airlock (SAL), ultraviolet photographs
were to be taken of pre-designated galaxies.

ED 23 data was to be

recorded in the S019 portion of the log book and photographs were to
be returned in the S019 film canister.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - Student experiment ED 23 was

performed as scheduled and no anomalies were reported.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - The crew felt that experi­

ment training was good but that a decision needed to be made as to experi­
ment operational priority so as to better appropriate crew training
requirements.

�13. 22. 5. 2

ED 25 - X-Rays From Jupiter
a.

Operations - Student experiment ED 54 was scheduled to

be performed on SL-3 to detect x-rays from Jupiter.

The experiment was to be performed with the use of ATM experiment
S054 under Joint Observation Program (JOP) 13.

The vehicle was to

be maneuvered so that the ATM could observe celestrial bodies away from
the sun.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - Student experiment ED 25 was

performed during the ATM performance of JOP 13 a s scheduled and no
anomalies were reported.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - The crew felt that the

procedures were adequate and that the hardware performed satisfactorily.
13.22.5.3

ED 26 - Ultraviolet From Pulsars
a.

Operations - Student experiment ED 26 was scheduled to be

performed on SL-3 as an additional data pass of baseline experiment
S019 to search for pulsars in ultraviolet wavelengths.

The crew was to use experiment S019 as support equipment for ED 26.
W i t h SO 1 9 m o u n t e d i n t h e S A L , u l t r a v i o l e t p h o t o g r a p h s w e r e t o b e t a k e n
of designated galaxies.

ED 26 data were to be recorded in the S019 log

b o o k a n d t h e p h o t o g r a p h s w e r e t o b e r e t u r n e d i n t h e SO 1 9 f i l m c a n i s t e r .

�b.

Usage/Anomalies - Student experiment ED 26 was

performed as planned and no anomalies were reported.
c.

Assessment/Re commendations - Student experiment ED 26

used only film and S019 experiment hardware, therefore all crew inter­
face assessments are included with the assessment of S019.
13.22.5.4

ED 31 - Bacteria and Spores
a.

Operations - Student experiment ED 31 was scheduled to

be performed on SL-3 to determine the effects of weightlessness and
space radiation on the survivability, growth rate, and mutation of several
vegetative bacterial species.

A crewman was to inoculate the 15 petri dishes containing nutrient agar.
Nine cultures were to then be incubated in the Inflight Medical Support
System (IMSS) incubator and the remaining six at OWS ambient temperatur
Observation and photography of these cultures were to take place a t 12
hour intervals until the colony growth was attenuated by cooling in the
OWS and chiller.

The petri dishes were to be returned a t the end of the

mission for laboratory study.
b.

Usage/Anomalies -

Due to the degradation caused by the

SL-2 launch delay and the elevated OWS temperatures, ED 31 was
investigated and a decision was made to perform the experiment on SL-2,
assess the data, and consider performance on SL-4, if necessary.

The

15 ED 31 petri dishes were inoculated, incubated and photographed on

�SL-2.

Petri dishes one through four had water drops but no visible

growth.

Photographs were not taken of dishes one through four but

were taken of dishes five through fifteen.

Only dishes number 7 and

number 9 showed any growth and they had three and one colonies
respectively.

The experiment was completed using reduced mission

protocol and the 15 dishes were returned on SL-2.

The 15 plates were

not chilled and they were returned in a food overcan because the IMSS
resupply container was not on board SL-2.

Ground studies indicated

that the high temperatures experienced on SL-2 had possibly affected
the experiment results and it was decided to repeat the experiment
on SL-4.

ED 31 was repeated on SL-4 as planned and successfully

completed.
c.

Assessment/Re commendations - The crew was satisfied

with the experiment hardware performance and reported no difficulty
in inoculating the petri dishes in a zero-gravity environment.
13.22.5.5

ED 32 - Invitro Immunology
a.

Operations - ED 32 was scheduled to be performed on the

SL-3 mission to determine the effects of zero gravity on the antigenicity.

To perform ED 32, a crewman was to inject each of the three (3) immuno
diffusion plates with antigen and was to then periodically photograph the
plates throughout the incubation period.

To photograph the plates, the

crew was to attach them to OWS light number 1 using the photo clip

�supplied in the ED 32 hardware.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - Antigen injection of the three diffusion

plates was accomplished early in the SL-3 mission.

Ten days later,

the plates were attached to the OWS light and photographed with the
35mm Nikon camera.

This constituted completion of the ED 32 experi­

ment requirements.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - No assessments or

recommendations were received from the crew concerning ED 32.
Therefore it was assumed that the experiment hardware, procedures
and interfaces were well designed and all functioned as planned.
13.22.5.6

ED 41 - Motor Sensory Performance
a.

Operations - ED 41, Motor Sensory Performance, was

scheduled to be performed on SL-4 to obtain motor sensor performance
data which could be used in planning, training, and equipment development
for future manned space missions.

The method of measuring motor sensory performance used in ED 41 was
a standardized eye-hand coordination test using a maze with a 119-hole aiming
pattern, stylus, and cable assembly.

During operation the unit was attached

to the wardroom window shelf by velcro strips and the cable was connected
to the speaker intercom assembly connector.

The experiment

was

performed once early and again late in the mission by the same astronaut
and no activities imposing either intense physical exertion or mental/

�emotional strain preceded performance of the experiment.

Inflight

performance was compared with pre-flight and post-flight tests performed
by the same subject.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - Student experiment ED 41 was performed

as scheduled by all three crewmen and no anomalies were reported.
c.

Assessment/Re commendations - Procedures for ED 41

were straightforward and the hardware performed satisfactorily.
13.22.5.7

ED 52 - Web Formation
a.

Operations - Student experiment ED 52 was scheduled to

be performed on SL-3 to observe the web building process of the Araneus
diadematus (cross) spider in a zero-gravity environment and compare
this process with one performed in a one "g" earth environment.

A

prime and backup spider were to be launched.

The crewman performing the experiment was to deploy the experiment
enclosure which permits observations of spider activity.

The spider

was to be released from her vial into the experiment enclosure and
allowed to spin her web.

During the experiment performance a crew­

man was to periodically provide food and water for the spider.

Still

photographs were to be made with the 35mm Nikon camera and correlated

�to Ground Elapsed Time (GET) by voice recorded comments.

Movie

photographs were to be made with the DAC 16mm camera utilizing the
automatic camera actuator which detected spider motion to start/stop
the motion picture camera.

Upon completion of the experiment the

spiders were to be disposed of through the trash airlock.
b.

Usage/Anomalies -

Prior to releasing the prime spider,

Arabella, the crew reported a problem with the automatic camera
actuator.

Malfunction procedures were conducted on the automatic

camera actuator with no results.

The actuator was considered failed

and therefore the web forming photography objective was not met.
Photographs were taken periodically by the crew using the hand-held
camera.

Due to the actuator failure some additional crew time was

spent taking hand-held photographs.

Both the prime and backup spiders

died in orbit and were returned to earth along with web samples.
c.

Assessment - Other than the actuator failure and resulting

increased time requirement for the crewman the experiment was performe
as scheduled.
13.22.5.8

ED 61/62 - Plant Growth/Plant Phototropism
a.

Operations - ED 61/62 was scheduled for performance

during SL-2 to observe difference in root and stem growth of rice
seeds germinated in the Skylab environment.

�Eight seed groups were to be implanted by the crewman with the seed
planter into a compartmental container filled with clear agar.

This

container was to be fitted with neutral density filters to enable a variation
in the total light impinging on the eight separate seed groups.

Following

implantation, the crewman was to photograph the seed groups daily for 14
days using the 35mm Nikon camera.
b.

Usage /Anomalies - Due to the high OWS temperatures

after launch, and subsequent on ground testing, the ED 61/62 performance
was cancelled for SL-2.

Resupply and performance of ED 61/62 was

accomplished during SL-4.

Prior to seed implantation the experiment

was relocated because existing light levels were felt to be too low for
adequate growth.

In addition, the portable light was incorporated to

provide additional lighting to insure good growth.

Finally the seeds were

implanted and photographed as scheduled with no anomalies reported.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - No assessment or

recommendations were received from the crew concerning ED 61/62.
Therefore it was assumed that the experiment hardware, procedures
and interfaces were well designed and all functioned as planned.
13.22.5.9

ED 63 - Cytoplasmic Streaming
a.

Operations - Experiment ED 63 was scheduled for operation

on the SL-3 mission to observe the effects of zero gravity on cytoplasmic
streaming in plants.

�Crew activation operations for ED 63 were to consist of restraining the
ED 63 transparent container, containing the elodea water plants, near
a specific light in the OWS wardroom to maintain photosynthesis during
the mission.

Then, once early in the mission and again late in the

mission, the crew was to detach a leaf from the elodea plant and, with
use of the Inflight Medical Support System (IMSS) microscope and
associated hardware, examine the leaf for cytoplasmic streaming.

The

16mm Data Acquisition Camera (DAC) was to be used to document the
data.
b.
SL-3.

Usage/Anomalies - ED 63 was performed as scheduled on

During the first performance the crewman reported that all three

plant vials had a sulphurous smell and that the leaves from the three
plants showed no resistance when detached.

Two slides were prepared

from one of the plants and no cytoplasmic streaming was observed.

In conjunction with this in-flight performance of ED 63, a ground based
performance was conducted.

A sample slide was prepared on each of

the three plants and observed under a microscope.

Two of the three

elodea plants appeared to be totally dead, the third appeared normal
and exhibited good cytoplasmic streaming.

The vials containing the

two dead plants smelled of hydrogen sulfide and the leaves showed no
resistance when detached.

Based on this, it was considered probable

that one or more of the plants in orbit were dead.

�From a later on ground performance of ED 63 it was discovered that
a previously considered dead plant had exhibited some cytoplasmic
streaming.

Therefore, the crew were requested to prepare slides on

all three plants and examine for possible streaming.
and no streaming was observed.

The crew complied

This resulted in a termination of the

experiment for SL-3 and an eventual resupply for a SL-4 performance.

During the SL-4 performance of ED 63, a hardware anomaly was
reported concerning the DAC camera/IMSS microscope adapter.

The

crewman examining for cytoplasmic streaming could not acquire a full
field of view.

It was his assessment that the adapter was the cause of

the problem.

The SL-4 performance of this experiment approximated the results obtained
from SL-3.

During the first cytoplasmic streaming observation one plant

provided some evidence of streaming.

In subsequent observations the elodea

plant leaves showed no resistance when detached, there was a sulphurous
smell present and no cytoplasmic streaming was observed.

It was decided

that the plants were dead and the experiment was terminated.

The plants

were removed from their vials and placed in the trash airlock.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - Other than the DAC

camera/IMMS microscope adapter anomaly, the ED 63 performances
were conducted as planned.

The crew reported that the experiment

�procedures and hardware functioned well and felt that everything possible
was done on their part to acquire usable data.

From the results of this

experiment, it was concluded that zero-gravity has an undesirable
effect on cytoplasmic streaming in plants.

�13.22.5.10
a.

ED 72 - Capillary Study
Operations - Student experiment ED 72, Capillary Study,

was scheduled to be performed on SL-4 to demonstrate capillary action
as a liquid pumping mechanism.

The experiment hardware consisted of two separate capillary tube modules
and an additional capillary wick module.

Each capillary tube module •

contained a reservoir, lever valve system and three transparent capillary
tubes of graduated sizes.
oil.

One module contained water, the other Krytox

The capillary wick module contained three capillaries of twill and

mesh screens.

The crewman was to activate the lever valve of the

capillary tube modules and photograph the capillary action of the fluid.
The entire experimental sequence was to be photographed, beginning with
the actuation of the capillary valve and ending with the time that the slowest
fluid volume reached the end of the capillary tube.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - The wicking segment of student experiment

ED 72 was successfully performed as scheduled with photographic data and
crew sketches being obtained for data.

The capillary segment of ED 72 was unsuccessful.

During preparation

of this portion the crewman observed that both the oil and water had
leaked from their reservoirs.
capillary action was observed.

When the lever valves were operated no
The failure was attributed to the reservoir

�leakage.

The ground later suggested attempting to refill the reservoirs

but the crew had already disposed of the modules through the trash airlock.
The leakage was documented on film.
c.

Assessment / Recommendations - The wicking portion of ED 72

was successfully completed with the hardware functioning as designed.
However, the capillary segment was unsuccessful due to the hardware
failure resulting in the leakage of the capillary modules.

�13.22.5.11

ED 74 - Mass Measurement

a.

Operations - Experiment ED 74 was scheduled to be

performed on SL-3 to demonstrate the use of harmonic motion to
measure the mass of an object.

To operate ED 74, a crewman was to first remove ED 74 from launch
stowage in the OWS film vault and then bolt it to the film vault.

The

device was to then be calibrated using the calibration weights included
with the ED 74 hardware.

Next the mass of four (4) small objects was

to be determined through use of the ED 74 hardware.

This was to conclude

the ED 74 performance.
b.

Usage/Anomalies - During SL-3, ED 74 was performed

twice instead of only once a s scheduled.

It was decided that this experi­

ment was a good candidate to be downlinked by real time TV coverage.
c'

Assessment/Recommendation - During both pgr fnr manioc

the hardware functioned as planned and no anomalies were reported.
The crew stated during the final performance that ED 74 worked very
well.
13.22.5.12
a.

ED 76 - Neutron Analysis
Operations - Student project experiment ED 76 was

scheduled for operation during all three Skylab missions.

Its purpose

was to acquire data for measurement of the ambient neutron flux a t
Skylab orbital attitudes.

�The hardware for ED 76 was comprised of ten (10) neutron detectors
and stowage containers.

During SL-2 the ten neutron detectors,

consisting of chemically coated films, were to be deployed on the
inboard surfaces of the OWS.

At designated times during SL-2 and

SL-4 the crew was to deactivate certain detectors and stow them for
ultimate return to earth.
b.

Usage/Anomalies -

During SL-2 the ten (10) neutron flux

detectors were deployed as planned.

A t t h e e n d of t h i s m i s s i o n f o u r ( 4 )

detectors were deactivated, stowed and returned.

The remaining six

detectors continued data collection throughout the Skylab missions and
were deactivated and stowed in the CM by the SL-4 crew just prior to
their return.

The SL-4 crew stated that dector Bravo 3 was poorly placed in that as
they came through the hatch from the forward compartment to the experi­
ment compartment it was in a very natural place to grab.

If t o u c h i n g

degraded it, it was definitely degraded as it was touched numerous times.
c.

Assessment/Re commendations - No assessments or

recommendations were reported by the Skylab crews concerning ED 76.
Therefore it was assumed that the experiment hardware, procedures and
interfaces were well designed and all functioned as planned.
13.22.5.13
a.

ED 78 - Liquid Motion
Operations -

Experiment ED 78 was scheduled to be

�performed on SL-3 to study the dynamic response of a liquid/gas inter­
face when subjected to an impulse in zero gravity.

The crewman was to excite a gas bubble, surrounded by a liquid, by
activation of the calibrated force supplied by the ED 78 piston/ spring
mechanical system.

Photographs were to be supplied to the student

investigator to provide ED 78 data interpretation.
b.

Usage/Anomalies -

Experiment ED 78 was set up and

initiated during SL-3 but the hardware did not operate properly.
piston/spring mechanism did not function when activated.
corrective procedures were attempted with no success.

The

Several
It was deter­

mined that the diaphram in the piston/spring mechanism was ruptured
and that no corrective actions were possible.

The ED 78 hardware was

terminated and stowed.

During SL-3 and SL-4, liquid motion scientific demonstrations were
performed and data from these demonstrations were provided to the
ED 78 student investigator.

This data provided sufficient information

to satisfy the requirements of ED 78.
c.

Assessment/Recommendations - Other than information

concerning the ED 78 hardware anomaly, the crew made no comments
concerning the assessments/recommendaticns for this experiment.

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                    <text>��ST/iTSSaST 07 WORK
HAU/MVCBUST ACQJIVrriES - AIM

SCOPE
TMs^rvtccsMit of \Jovk. cjicoBroaasGs the oan/niaeMne effort reoulretl
to optimize tho crew role cod the eysteas deslsn for the Apoilo
Telescope Mouat (AT^!) erpcriaeat*
OBJECrmS
The objectives of the progrsia eret
1.

To Id TiciCy the tcoho re®ilred to actuate, coir;i-ol and ncnitor
the
to rct.rl&lt;Tve data casosttea ty EWl, end to ctov tlia
cassettes aboard the AEl carri&lt;ir.

2.

To define cud cstabUsh apeclfiCGtlcns for the cquipE jiifc requited
to support the crov dJtrlng EKA trcnslatlcai, do^.a retrieval.
haadllDg and etovn^e.

3.

To cpp3y huran casiaeerins criteria thru design outroort of those
systems interfacing the orbital crew mcaibor.
forj3lbimy of lr.tv.m p^rforannco on those tashs
Identified ly caalj'Gia (inciud'jjs sittulatica) a£ crew variables
and ccostralnts, equiprent UitViatloas, and alnsica roquircmsnfcs.

5.
,

To devadop a tradning program, Inclv.dlr-g coursti outlines, ^-quipmont
description, personnel requirfiicnto, end fanllJ.ty utUlEaiion,
to lEjiltBEnt indoctrinatlca of the crew to the ATIl,

ASSUiPnOilS
The follo»7lns esovurotious will be included emong thoca to be used
in the performance of this prosrom.
1*

The Apollo Elcch II suit shall be ;rtili2ed by the sstrcsmts.

2.

Attitude stabilization, pointing and control el"'all be ccadr^rted
by the nstrona'jtCc) within the AEi carrier.

3*

The carrier configuration end flight profile shall be ccnoistcirb
with the curitiatiy dsolgnated /-AP ccafiguratlozxs.

�2
IV

ERa'.RAIl OUTUES
1«

2.

GeDcral
a.

Ka::irniax utlllT:t;tion vill l)is made of reaultn clrtaijiod from
the G&amp;*ainl and Apollo proc^ans.

b.

l^axlrai:! use shall
-S hardware coiEpimeata and syeteans
which oro either availnblo cosomQrciaUy or have teen developed
uudior other rclr.tod prograias.

c.

The Ernsn Fac&lt;:ors Ehciuorr.his Section shall fi-volop
a de­
tailed progmu plan catega.'lsinc th? effort into a logical
sequence cf outicireted tatla. Enoh task will ocntain obJ-.ctlvos, the Kcpected proiuet, allocated maa-hci;ro, relaticn to
crthax' tasks, data rcxjuired from Gv-vamment scwraen; the plan
shall also provida for mihistone event rcvicvs.

d.

CoaveJitlonal equlpiC'^ait, procedures, end tcehniyica \;j.ll be
xrfcilizs.d ^dtenovcr possible-.'

Crew/System Jtitecration
a.

The Eumon Feotcrs Enginccivlng Section shall idorttify critical
system paramstci-s for both the ASIA and its carrie?.'. Such
factors as pointing and
Reciu'aciejj, motating character­
istics, tarcct nocuisition modes, cnvircnmiintal lijaitaticns,
aoaitcring rccruirements, data rotrievol roouiremrnts (removal
and/or rsTJlaceaoat, frequ:&gt;ncy, inasscs), aoceoslbDity and
interfaces will bo evaluntod for ccspatibmty with too htann
opci'atcr.

b.

Those system rcguireincats which constitute a eonstraiat
directly or indirectly on na interfacing system and which affect
odrc-x'soly ths crew pcxrfommco will be identified, l/hcre
possible Eltemato systems or procedures will bs x*econmcnd.cd
which will clloviate the constx'aint or improve system cffcctivoncas«

c.

Identification will bo csdo of the varlcblns and constraints
imposed ly
crew mcaber plxis
caadldiite crew support
(IVA end EVA) equipaient, cixd incorporate this data into the
task analyses and new equipment design specif1cations.

d.

All equlisEont with '.dilch tlxe crew will intorfaco "&gt;&gt;•^7) be
analyzed and the opdratlixg and stowage rc^xlramsnts determined.
This equirnx-at will include.

'

�3
1)
2)
3)
i;)
5)
6)
7)
0)

«

fSTA dioplay and ccatrol egjilpBent
Gu-lflcnce and aaylgatlcn equipmant
AE' data cassottas
Datii hinadllng cq^alp22?nt (tools)
D:j,ta atov.'aso crraj-prir^nt
Li'Zo ciipport equlprant
AlalocJca and nccossorlsa (hctch^a ond Ccmtro:^)
Crav Bto.'billaeticc and traiislr.tion oquipiBunt (IVA artd eva)

e. A dstallcd task aiS'Jyais iacludlng tinellns shall be conducted
baosa on the follovins najor actlvitiea:
1)
2)
3)
h)
5)
6)
T)

TciTcefc aeqtilsltion,
otabiiization and control,
Beta recording,
Data rctrio%'al,
Data Dtowego,
E-q.u.'.pnint assembly,
Crs-7 Qovcment to and frcaa the A2M work area*

The enalyois shall bo updated basod on simulation results.
f« Dwsicn opscifleatians will bs created for spnciol crf;w
eqiJ-prc it and tools rcauirlng dovclopm-uat and vhnro rcoircsory
modifi&amp;itions will be rcec^snondcd for existing cduiui^at.
AppUcablo hiwan englaeariag criteria wlU bo ro^crorced for
boca now design and modifications.
3. Design Si^port
%

The principles of hunian factors cnginoerlng shall be applied to
all related AKI eq^iisncnt to ensure the efficient inte^tioi of
men into the design of the system.
a. The EPS Inpirts shall con^l,y with system ena^sls regvli^ments
as well as other appropriate inputs. Standard ^iS?'C-£TD-267
shall bo the basic jvcfereace doctnnsnt for the human €nginegring design features.
b. Euirnn factors cri.teria end reccmmendatlons shall be fpplli.a to
system and subsystem prelimiliary Ijycuts and related dratrings.
The approval of Isyout drawings by the IF3 group shall verify
that ths configuration end arrangamant of cqaipffo-'nt satisfy
Esn/equipmcat perfomnnce rcguiremcnts, and that the design
ccc^ilies with applicable criteria specified in Standcrd
JBPC-STD-267.

S

�c. OsTrJi fnotora prJ.r^.ir--C3 rud proccdu-vcs cboll "be GxroHcxI,
dVLTlac detail dc alfpa, -fco cquiinisnt di-avrlns3; sucli a;i pan&lt;;l
Inycuts, vorlaipccc I'v'oui^s, eon'trols, crew ciiuipTn-n-t oad
•.•thcT dravinso &lt;;japlofcirvs cqiii-prnDH-fc tiaccaBory for operation
"by tho ABl caiTicr crow.
d.

nFB parsccmel sliall pjarfciclpi:to In dcalca rovicvo to enuvxe
ccnalderatioa oi' crev oporationa and crew/eqjiiipra&amp;nt intjractlons.

SimtlAtioa
a. Upon ccoiplotion of tho pxaHnicary task orolcrsls, e. airulatloa
plzin vlll te vrittea and iiapl€n:ca:tod coverins the follcvdnc
factors:
1)
2)

Critical task? to he siaulcted,
?.2c:ar:-adcd a-.'le zf sl=;latlcn - aicohanical, SC-135, Itrt
task, etc.,
3) Sketches of noakeps required,
k) Facilities required,
5) SiEulatloa schedule,

h.

The E-rrnn Factcrs Fa.-l2-~Sccticn skall write the .ietailed
test prccedureo and suhnlt iioakup deslea xecpiirecents for
the approved tasks to tie ajjprppriate doslGu s^^cups,

c, 1F2 personnel ohrOl monitor the operation of all almlstitai
tenting end participate in the dcelga evtOxvitions conducted
on ccn^ncnt mockups which interface the Jaaaon ope rator,
d.

Prccc3ural changes end time iseasurcnients prodv.ccd oy sjarolrtion
testing flhc.ll he incorporated into the detailed taok cna'^'sis,
RcciBCzumdcd design changca rssidtlng from aiusulatioa rnd/OT
lacckup drsloi evaluation shall be submitted by the Hunim Factors
Eagineering Section to the appropriate design groups.

Training
a. The ATM task roqulrcs^rrts shall he evaluated and chose ckiU
IsvcOa required to fulfill the oihital functions shall he
presented.
h.

Prcm the detailed task analysis, H?3 porscmei sha^ldmtify
those tasks vhsre training is neccssa^ end ^ dc^. of
training xequirad to ensure their desired perfonrance,

c.

The Euman Factors Englnoerins Section shr^
training support personnel b? special-ty, traininc level «nd
certiflcaticQ.

�d. Training eqjilpncat and fanilitica shall be Iclentifici
quantity, configuration, ntate of developEien-fc, location
(if cxiatinc), and need date.
e*
^

A trnlniDG pr Cfac outlintj shall be developed. This will
include:

f:ilGli-t crew.
^ w &lt;)•
rfJla ••cla3s:-u9a ir.";U:ri^il and equipacnt.
3) TraiDc?^s.&gt;
it)
f
p^racnnol and expcrlacnt
c. ntrootcns.
'4
"'
Cvurse cutllnoa, frcquenc;' and duraticn, as vc.iJL as cquipasnt
descriptions, iacludina sJffitchca, will be pro/ided with the
traininc plan.

ESPECTED rCBtJLiTS
The fs-Uc^rlnc docuacntctitn will l&gt;e submitted
Saelneerins Section:

the ffurnnri Factors

1. A listing f the syr^tems and/or prtcedures rolatad to ATi &gt;4iich
ara incoirpatiblo with bunaa p&gt;.arfQraanoe crltej.*ia bti!? ov&amp;r i^ch
the contractor has no direct ccntr.1.
2,

Related mission ccnstx'aints, A3S-I and corxder design constx'alnts,
pers.nal equipment ccnstralats, and crew inrpi,i{ed constraints.

^3*

A detailed task zinalysls and tiffiejlne conrncncing with th?
pitspamtlon for iZA torcet cc&lt;iuisition and cndinc with tha
stLwace of the data cassettes within the AIM carrier ofter the
final m.
Design specificoticns f^r bcTth newly develvped crow sxQ^io-rt
equipment end m. difIcatlon tt. existix^g e^ilxKoent.

5&lt;

The simulnticn plan and detal.Icd simulation results, concluslLns
and recoBEcendatl ns*

6.

Desl{pi cvaluatl n inputs ux related AT:-! subsystems requiring
crew/equipment Interactions.

7*

A training plan including course descripticn, material end
eqpipBient requirements, skill levels and fcciU'ty rcccasnondstions.

8,

A training irplementatlon plan containing a sched'alo of overall
training events propcssd for .M!-!.

9. An outline and content description of an A33i flight crev training
and familiarization manual.

��ATM FnOBI.TO AREAS

1«

The general cost of EVA in ezcpendsblcSi crew
end crew fotigiio. (See attnchceats 1
2).

hours, oafoty,

2*

The iJBpact of EVA whore vehicle configurations Involve crew
traaafers by EVA. (See attachaent »,

3*

Other EVA consideratlono.

h.

The baeic everlond of the crew In reopect to nian hours nvailtible
for expcrlrerts vorcus the can hours required by preaent experi-.;:ent dcfinitiona. On 211/2^ this chows 502 aaa hours
avnilablo veraua 859 cian hours required. (Seo attachoem; 5).

5»

Tho problea of dovolopinj and getting iraplcnentcd into
exporinont dcaigno. basic principles of huaan factor cngineaj*ing
and nlooioD oporation rcqu\rc-cnte. Thio io an cxtrc^caly tineGcnaitivo function. (Sea attGchoent 6 for a TOJV prolir-inary
cot of the types of dntn that cuot get factored into the
exporicent and carrior oquipnent designs).

(See nttocfaj^ent 4).

6. Stabilization and Control requlrecents for ATM are the ooafc
otringont ever attoapted in canned space fli^t. Consldorable
study and cinulntion above that already ur.dertakon is probably
required. (Soe attachncat 7 for eooe of the basic iteoo re­
quiring work in this area).
7«

The I/EH io en extremely poor vehicle for extended habitation.
Much huson factor effort nust be expended to provide reasonablo
comfort to the crow. (See attaehnent 8 for oone considerations
on this item. Also, refer to the section on crew habitabillty
in attauhoent 5)*

8.

See attacbxcent 9 for other AiOl Kan/^nchine Considerations.

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LiOH (Contaminant
Control Cartridge)
Fuel (Stabll^e and
Station Keeping)

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SAFETY FACTORS
Raciiation Exposure
Meteoroid Exposure
Astromut Fatigue
Lo^v Systciii Safety

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ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS
Wt (lb)
PLSS
Protective
Oarments

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Thermal
50
Meleorok1 15

Safety Tethers

10

EVA Astronaut
Maneuvering System 10-140
PLSS Replaceables
Battery
Contaminant
Control Cartridge
Rescue Kit (est)
TOTAL

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tionc lo a &gt;oquirci=ent for rcEr.lsr comaytinn- toVork
conflfpiraDr. MnoUcr and tho Altorrjtc /;a ccnfi-ajTc-tion S.^r.5^. i
clic-.;a that ••.•hllo EVA caa bo RC'-canlioh"^
ia'iv-H-t' i
i^^iperinent ha.9
l".bcrion3 to the crc-^. Ar.v clo^ig^
f-fficalt £«:cl
nhould bo cnrofullo- aea3y=c;d and tho con;cqSSca
PCrtcdlo EVA
tho cafety foctoro and worlclcada Ir.volvod, every offo^ ^
^
nxniniro tho qi-mtlty of m'o required.,
o^^^ort ebould bo ca(\o to
D..
«to oori in tho l.:li/Ai;.. Ho oo-ola flea no' rtc-ro-rhir^f^^f
=0
tfor.trbsp, cater the AL, ccciiro th-t
j
^ the S-Iva
veuld then AopTczav.^zo the AL and opcts fcha'^A^St°r
Eo
tfceeo aetlvltlcn tho r.otro"-auJ- ^,0 v,,,
Wij.le .10 t-ao doing
thocu-h a oiailnr cot of ooUi-ltioVin
^
prepared, tho firet aotrone.ut would then
a '
ucro
cuter the LEd and hook up ore of tho Dtsr£^va Iv^
^'^5
Ea would then traacfor hlo Icrg urb^i^oal to
K5?oilicalc to hio cuit.
hock it up a-d diaooraoofc the .4ord:"j^fiMaeal
^^^roraut who would
thou travoroe back to tho AL v.hile tho
aatroraAtt would
froa tho open hatch of tho Ii:i. Follcsr'-'^
procrecs
ecouro tho LEj hatch, rcprcc-er'-e S^rVv
S®
as'crouaut would
by the Chart, nfto? ah.a 5o
the bSi:
^oo'sin^^SiSr&amp;
for short tora taslaj. Eowovo- the PLSS
vould bo loncer. It is alco based ou^o dcvfi«n-.'^^^

^^5
althoush tho tisa

icfJiJuS'coSfbe
^tnntit. Of on,,. oon.«i .^rS; =-.t'rnSSt51S'?::o1^°Snnn.
requeued. Due to'^voMclo^coSwrftiS^S^"^'^^'^^ ® sindlar EVA would bo
r. desxrablo and the P15S vouid S S ?
®''^ rnbiUcal would be
fiE •-ration woald be porhaaa 10-35
^
probably ccnoiotius o* haadholde and riii
Addittcnally, r. t^alkt.'sy,
scroGo tho entire lorgth of tho coi^±s^lo^
developed
of E/Ariri-iU
So
P-!&gt;teo
ri:;o Oithor tho Dr. MuoH^or
« EOtivity is, orflcr to
Ito root ohviof.s Kthed of aoins So iT^o j™ ".nfisoraiiono orootloal.
nu tho noceocax^ natch rcouii-c^onto"^,

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FOB SHIFT-CHANGEAUELLER COHFIGCRATION

Hlnixnim
Time Costs

Activity
Don and Check Out Suit
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•4

filter and Secure
long DnbiUcal

AL, Connect

^2 Costs

20
10

Depressurize AL

3.5 lbs

Open EVA Hatch
Traverse to IM
filter m. Switch to IM Umbilical
Monitor #3 Traverse to AL
Secure IM Hatch

ID

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5

12 lbs (DmbiUcal
System loss)

ID
2.

Repressurize IM

15

Doff Suit and Stow

15
91 Dlnutea

6.9 lbs

22A lbs

Developfflent Requirements:
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150 foot DmbiUcal
"Clothesline" Traverse Rig
IM Hatches for Multiple Usage
External Lighting

CHART #1

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CREW SCHSMJLE

EXPERIMENTATIOH

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1 WATCH NAP

EVA

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SLEEP

SLEEP

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6

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EXPERIMnfTATION

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Mueller Configuration and Alternative 1 (3'* hour cycle) - l8 Hour Exporinental Shift

tXPERIMQITATION

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ATCH

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SLEEP

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Alternative 2 (24 Hour Cycle) - 6-8 Hour Ibcperiaental Shift

CHART #2

I

�THE EVA COK^UTina PSDBLEH
Pogo Z

Md eiDlInr activitico. In fnjperiod the iiidivldiu 1 vdU ebtiiln
Zh bouro of nlccp altho.n^ It would not be diatributcd 1
^-hour baoio. ^ala cycle rey vcxy veil rot bo practical from a lloT
^
®®'® ccaaideratioa cucfc as this ci;ot
*?
coafigurstiono r-ractical.
The cocond
of Clwrfc ^&lt;2 soroly indlontos that la th® rblrt-oieoro
^ Altcr^to ilZ ccnfiguratioa, it is -pooaible to wori a ;iorBal
o-hour day; 8-hour olcop cyclo.
f^wbaj.
Chart #3 providoa a r^r-aiy of opsrational differonccs botynoa the
throo confasxiraticno for a 7-dry mission^ In ordor to nal-:o tho KncLler
c^isuratiou and the Altorretc #1 corpotitivop tboy aro both barod on an
Ib-hoi^ cxporincav vork cchcdulo as coapai-od to on B-hour work cchedulo
for Altcmsio s^Z. Bf.ocd on tbia prsstce,- there ia no scrioua pa-ralty in
t^e available for or-pcnrscnts between vaiilona config-jratioaa. Howctrer.
thoro io a rajor difforccco ia tho aurbcr of EVA»3 aiid pr« est^isation
cjclco required by the Altercate ij^ and tho othor two coalinuratlono..- If
tho work schedule is changed to a 12-hour oicperli^sat duty cycle the iju-lbcr of
EVA s Involved in the first t-wo configurations changos frca 18 to 28, and tha
aur.oGr of prooourizatioa cyclca chrPees from 10 to 15. At tho onso tino. the
amount of cino availrJjlo for experijcsnts crops to about SG hours. Althou^
tno txne available for AIH crpericoato io not greatly different for
Altaraato ^Z,
I

Another feature choaii on tho eurcaaxy chart Is the feet that tho tins
required for the crcv to rcatcfsblo into the CSH for ccGrgoncy abort is
conoidcrobly loca for tho Alternate ^ corfigyrstioa. llhowieo, tho chart
chouo an.orrdcp of ranking due to tho hazard of ETA. Bccavso of the fTcat
ni^hor of EM'S required for tho first tuo ccnfigurations, there io a conoxdorablo spread b-t--.:r.a the number ono rating of Alternate j^S and the
oocond and third ratings of tho other configurations. Another factor in
this rating io the fact that the EVA at the cad of the work shift id.ll bo
ficccoplich.-d by an. astronaut who nay already be hi^ly faticuod cud aoro
prono to accidents.
Ono pln.co on tho chart ropresento tho relative crow vorklcad for
Mcccbl^g the basic configuration. Tho configunitica i?2 would be acconplicsc-d by a relative norcal Apollo dockljag maneuver. In both the Dr. Mueller
wd Alternate #1 relatively complicated eijace erection techniqueo would bo
involved. Horo again there is a wide spread between tho #1 rating and tho
comparative evaluation of the second and third ratings.
In GuiEmary, from a crow operation point of view, thore ia a caior
bailee ia favor of Alternate ^ coafigurutionc Between tho Dr. tfuoUor
Alternate j^^l there is little choice. It would appear
that the ccmautxug problem is easier for the Dr. Mueller coafisuraticn- but
the probloa of tho original structural build-up would be somewhat co«»'
difficult.

Attachment #3

���OTHBR 17//. CO?:SI03?JVTXOIiS

nVA cyclea and ducatloa
To Reduce crcu workload to realistic level
Insure conpatiblllcy with support equipment, I.e., life support
ayatCD, caneuverins unit, A.L. hatch seal
Reduce o.xygen required
By Opclmltlng E?A procedures
Eliniinatlng tasks not demandlns direct Vii,twiqTi input
Siaq&gt;lifylng required EVA tasks for mlnicaun crew e:;erticn
Insurins cocpatlble hardware design, i.e., cascecce fartoncrs,
iiandJ.es, tethers, controls
Insuring optimum equipment Location for crev aecesstbllity
Determine 5T7A support hardware requirements
Including SLatilisatlon hardware
IhuiGuvering oquipiscnt
IUvrnlnaticn requireircnCs
«
Data cnsoette/crnw tethering harduare
Data cassette protective equipmnnt
Casratte attachment/detanhmcnt Cools
Airlock hatch actuation toolc

Sy Idoncifylng ajohility, dexterity, and visual acuity requirements
for ea&lt;:h task
Simulating critical tasks to develop optlmua procedure and establish
support requirements
Analysing available support hardware far application and coEpatibillty
Identifying AIM interfaces for crew tciherlng
Dctcrtiinlag ATM data cassette envlrorjiintal lltaitations.

�cj-vj-.z/oycCem
By ••

durlog EVA

«

E\-nluatln3 AT^l/carrier attitude stability oodoo
Analyzing crew cquipcoafc failure wodeo
Coternininc eonpliancc of AXH eyptora with applicable hiaaan enalncarinc
critcfAa and avallablo Gcmini/Apollo data
Siiaulatioa of critical casks to insure reaccnablc notabolic loads
EctrbXiehins safety procedures to be undertaken in the event of an
ejr.crgeacy
Datrcnnlning ACS conotrainto on crewoan
Insure crew/nisslon cosapatibility during EVA
By Scheduling EVA for maximum operation during orbital light side
Schcdiilias EVA during orbital perioda poesecsing mininun hazard,
i.e., HKteorold shower activity. South Atlantic anomaly, solar
radiation
Scheduling EVA during periodu of minimum mieaioa operation

��AHAixsis OP csm camusmTnyss
MlSSICai 2U/212

SEP 14 196S

�TABTJS OP CCKTEiTrS

BTTHOljirCSIOn
Mission OETECTIVIS
MISSION FUGEP PROFILE &amp; 0PERAa?I(M3
EXPI21B5ZNP OPERATIOnS
EVA E^UZE-IK® REQUIBESIEnrS
CARRIER RECa-WEimATIOES
CGRCLGSIonS 3s RECaM&gt;-IBil!A!riOK3

�Sunxiry
The anolysij of missico objectives, flicht profiles, spacecraft
operations, cxpci-lmcait considerations end opcratioQS, and, carrier
coapai-iscos for Liisoicn 211/212 is presented with ccnclus'lons and
reca-asendntlons cs related to crcv c^naldoratioas end optratioas.
The C3M/nc:'l/ATM offers crew advcntac«33 not available vrt,tMn the CSM/
LEl/AlIl confic:tu*ation. All ezipcrimeats con bo cccomplislicd with a
reduction in the quantity but not the quality of desired infoxniaticci.
The mission will bo trying and difficult for even the niO£;t MgMy
motivotcd astronauts.
Introduction
The jiurposG of this study is to 03Cf;rtaln, in preliidnary form, the
operational constraints end potential problems associated with crew
participation during the mission. Fnctox-s considered aro mission oV
jectivo, flight profiles, spacecraft opei*atlcns, experimnnta cparatlona
and carrier considoratlcai. Conclusions and rccaumendatians are included
for xiso by technical personnel.
There ore many factors that can have an Influence on crev ciperaticaia
during orbital or lunar missions. Some are very real, and can be evaluated,
Willie many are qvdto nebulous and are a function of an individual crev
member on a specific flight. Many in tliis category can only bs ovoluated
at this time by Intuition and opinion, with little or no firm facts to
substantiate the conclusion. Many of the opinionated iti^ms nust await
actual Apollo flight experience before real answers are available.
Therefore, this study will be revised and upgraded as more and
better information becomes available.
Basic crcv considerations must be evaluated for two categories,
i.e., Intra-Vchiculor Activities including all spacecraft operations,
hcusekceping, personal hygiene, and s:q&gt;cTlniant operations; Extra-Vehicular
activities. Including all preparations for external spacecraft cad experi­
ment operations, crew and cargo transfer, c:cternal maintenance and re­
pairs, and emergency operations including astronaut rescue and retrieval.
The crew represents the most fleoible system contained In the space­
craft. It has a demonstrated capability of rapidly adjusting to the
situation without severely effecting adjacent systems. Dual or triple
redundancy Is incorporated depending upon the number of astronauts
present. Adaptation to limited and restricted operating envircnmcnts
has been rei&gt;eatedly accCTplished with selected personnel in test flights
for years. Eowcver, flights have been a relatively short duration limited
to a few hours, or a fov days, in the cost extreme cases. Since the main
objective of AAP Is the extcmsicn of luanned space flight function, eveiy
effort must be exerted to increase tba ccanfort end working conditioas of
the astronaut.

�MISSION 0EJECT3VES

crct; consideratiors

�4

r
Mtjjton O'o.lcc&amp;lx'a
The objective of Mission 211/212, as specified by HASA. is ns
follows;
'
1. Conduct solnr astranotry observations using
es^erlmezrt sensors.

ircunted

2. Store cnrrler-AT2I in orbit for subsequent rcndc-avdo and
reuse (see tUssion 213 - Lamch CSM into rendezvous orbit,
coplnaor 'rfith carrier ATM from Mission 211/212),
*3. Conduct rendezvous oxparimc-nts totveca CSM and corricy
Vehicle for lunar rendezvous problem analysis early In
flight program.
Observation and zacnoureoent of extended duration space fUrJrt
effects on crew mnmbors,
*5. Conduct synoptic weather and mapping photogi^by cjcperlmeat
using CSM as espsrliuent carrier.

C
» Objectives not supplied by HASA.

��A,

Mission 211/212 - MISSION PROFILB AKALYSIS

o A
doecriptlon for 211/212 as deocribed In C-2-2n/212-2
9 «i&gt;"3t 1906, forna the basis for theao ccmmeats as to obe relAtlve
dcslmbillty of various possible miaslon profiles for Fllclits 211/212.
TABLB I
msslcn DeaerlPtloaa - 212 Firaf. launch
Method I
212-LIi;i (ATM)-Dlr. inj. 200 n.ol. circular
211-03.1-Dlr» inJ. 120 n.mi, phuslnrt orbit
2L1-.CSM dock •.d.th 212 UM
Ccnduot all e.^ei'icont8 In 200 a.mi. circular orbit
Ccamonts; All ej:poi1m^ts vou-lcl be conducted at 200 n.ml. Altitude
LF/
^eter tb^ doslrGd. It may be neccssa.'y to separate
LKi ^ 0^.1 durirs ATM experiment so that more than one exneria-at
can be ccnaucted simultaascaisly. This method is rated #4 for crew
ccnsideratlcn.
Method II
212-LE-I (ATM)-Dlr. InJ. 200 n.ml. circular
2^-CoM (RQck)-Dlr. inj. 120 n.ml. circular phasing orhit
211-Conduct mapping expcrriments
2L1-Transfcr, rendezvous and doci with 212 lEM at 200 n.ml.
Conduct AI2.I experiments
Commits; This launch and orhitnl coquence is rated #2 and pcnnlts
E^lmum utilisation of ths manned vt?hlclc at both the 120 n.mi, end
200 n.mi. orbits. Furthermore, If the LE-l must be separated frcm
the CSM during the ATM cacpariinc.it, separation time fmd distance can
be ^^mum (5 miles or less), This is required in the event the LE-I
tt^t be abandoned or cn oi-bit short is required. It should bo rcalizea
V Ii.
^snnod LE.J, when separated frca the OSM, brs no orbital
rendezvous end crow transfer mist be acccmpUshed by ^,he CM prior to aborting the orbit. Therefore, a ciinned
f
c
i
r
^
d e s i r a b l e c c n f l g u r a t i o n e n d s h o u l d
oc avoided. In the event this eonflguraticn is rcqvirod, the LEI
crew is placed in a very hi^ risk situation.

�I-tethod III
212-LE:I (A'.v:-L)-Dir.inJ. 200 n.ML. ci.rculQr
2L1-CSM (nr.elO-Dir. inj. 100 x 200 a.mi.
211-CuM i;i-2n3no30 rjid. dock to rack
211-COM (Rr.ck)-P,cadozvou3 witk 222 7JSd la 200 n.ml. clrculer orbit
2n-CSM imdcc]: rack
211-CSM deck to 212 LS-l cad troasfor two (2) crewmca
211-CSM vadock 2:2-LS-l
211-CSM dock to rock
211-CSM (Rcck)-Ti*an3fer to 120 n.ni. circulor
CcEduct roappins o:qx»rlEent3
211-CEl (Rr^k)-Tj.'ca3fer ead readozvous with 212 LEM
212-Ln-l crow (IT/A) i*cGovcr rack data
2U-CS-I undcxk rack
211-CSII dock to 212 LEM
Cczmcnts; SMa cequcacc Is nnich too con5)licated cad places oa uaac-cessory risk oa the 2-naa crc-w o? the LEI at 200 aoini. cad the CM
at 120 aoml. This ssquencs is highly laiticceptable for crew ocfety
la the event of a LK-l failure or orbi\&gt;al abort.
^tcthcd IV
212-LE-: (AIM and MarFplns)-Dir.iBj. to 120 a.mi. circular
211-CSM-Dir.iaJ. 120 x 200 n.mi. phising orbit
211-Circularize, rendezvous and dock with 212 LSI At 120 a.mi.
Conduct all experimcats
CSM/ISI transfer to 200 n.mi. for LSI (AE^) storage
«
Corx^nts; This, method required lamcccssajy orbital changes by the
manned vehicle, Sxiggest 211 CSI-I direct inject into 120 a.mi.
phasing orbit with lE-I.
Mochod V
212-LE'I (AS!d)-Dir. InJ. to 200 n.mi, circular
211-CSM (Eack)-Dir. Inj. to 100 x 200 n.mi. phrLq^-ng orbit
211-C^ transpose and dock to rack
211-CS!'! (Kack)-Readezvous with 212 LES'l in 200 n.ml. circular csrbit
Transfer tvro (2) crewmen ty E7A from 211 CSM to 212 LEd
Conduct ATM and mapping eaperimants
211-Cad undock rack dock to LEd
Ccmrasnts; This method requires transfer of the craw by E/A and
undcoking frca the rack by ths CM prior to dockdng with the LEd,
Again, it veold appear that more time than is accessary would be
spent ly the two cre^mien in the LEd with soparatlcm from the CSId,
Not a desirable cocdition.

�Mothcd VI
(ATTO-Dlr. inj. 200 n.ffi. circular
Sll-cni (Rcclcj-Dlr, InJ, 100 x 200 n.iai,
2ll-CG:i-TrQnspo3e and dccic to r:ick
2.U-CS-I rfadcrA-ouj with 212 LE-i zi 200 n.ol.
Trsjiafcr two (2) ercwxa to LE-1 hy EVA
an-CS-i (EccJ;)-Tr3n3fcr to 120 n.ai. circular
Conduct uapiplnc c-^ipavliccnt
"^o.^OO n.El. ond roadezvoua with 212 LEt-l
LTL-I crew recover data (Fv'A) frca rack
211-CSM undcck froa rack
211-CS:-I dock to 212 LEM
reecnreiy of tho two cwowtoii
4
5
I
n.ai., CSM at 120 n.mi. Tb:
method is not accejftable for safety reasons.

Hlssloa PoaerlT^tlons - 211 First
l-Icthod I
^ n.nO., itolns orbit
(A!Ei'I)-Dir. laj, 200 n.mi, circular orbit
n.mi. and rendezvous with 212 LSI
211-CSII-Dock with 212 LEI
Conduct aU ci^crimcnts In 200 n.mi. circular orbit
This sequence is acceptable for crew safety. However,
tac 200 n.mi. mapplns orbit is not desirable when 120 n.nl. Is
preferred. This method is rated #3.
Mothcd II
^ ri.Toi. circular phasing orbit
)^®*)-Ccnduct mapping and weather crocrimeirts
oH**^
n.mi. circular orbit
211-CSIl-Transfor, rendezvous and dock with 212 LBI at 200 n.mi.
Conount AIM esporlments
Co^cnts: Tills seqv.eace is profcrrod from crew consideration and
^lers better utllizatim of e&lt;^imezit than Method n - Table I.
This seijuence Is rated
from crew considemticn.

�J'f.thccl III
(Krj?ls)-Dir, Inj. 100 x SOO n*i!il* pbsslng crbll;
ail-CSM-Tmnflpo?3 oad dock to ztick
212-IiEJ (A'iM)-Dlr, inj. 200 n»ai« circular orbit
CU-CS!I-Uadcck r3ck
211-CS:!-Dcck to 2J5 LTSI and transfer two (2) crovcsa to LHI and
conduct /.Ti'l c:ncriacnt5
m-CSM-Undcck 212 ISI
211-C3t-'-Dock to rack
211-CSM (Rr-clO-Tronsfcr to 120 n.ml. clrcxOor orbit
211-CSM-(Rr.cl:)-Conduct rcairpins experiments
211-CGI-!-(Rack)-Triia3fer and rendezvous 222 LSI
212-LE.I Crcv-Rccovc-r rack data by EVA ,
211-CS-I-Undock rack
211-CSM-Dock to 222 LEM
Cp^f.nto;_ Tills ssthod Is too cccipllcated end prefventa rapid racoveiy
of the u^l crew by the COM, i.e., lEl at 200 n.ml. (SM at 120 n.ml.
Totally unacccptablo for crow safety.
Mathod IV
211-CSI-Dlr, inj. 120 x 200 n.ml. phasing orbit
212-LEI (AEI and Mapplag)-Dir. InJ. to 120 n.ml. circular orbit
21l-C3:l-ClrculGrlr.e, rendezvous and dock with 212 lE-C at 120 n.ml.
Conduct all e^crlments
CSM-Lni transfer to 200 n.ml, circular oiblt for lEJ! storage
Co^T^onts: This scQjionce requires •unnccessaiy orbit changes
the
in order to rendezvous with the LDd, I.e., Cai 120 x 200 n.ml.
LC-I 120 n.ml. This method Is more ccmpllcated than necessaxy.
2'Icthod V
211-CSM {Rack)-Dlr. InJ. to 100 x 200 n.ml. phasing orbit
212-IiIiM (ATM)-Dlr. InJ. 2C0 n.ml. circular orbit
211-CSI-Tran3po3C and dock to i*ack
211-C3M (Rcck)-F.eadGSVou3 with 212 LE-I in 200 n.ml. orbit
Transfer two (2) crewxea by E/A from CSM to LBl
Conduct AIM and mapping, and weather experlicents
211-CSK-ltodcck rack and dock to lEi
CwEnents; Thin method requires jT/A transfer cf the crew from (^I
to LSI, and undocMng from rack prior to docking with LS^. Appears
to be unnccesseiy, conc'lic&amp;'tc'd and time ccaisumlng If abort cf the
L51 Is required. Sot a desirable sequence.

�VI

SU-Cfw'I (R?.cl£)-Diy» InJ* 3.00 x 200
phcolng orbll;
211-cr.l-Tro\ij3po3C» JiTKi do::!: to rack
212-U2I (ATi')-B1j*« IdJ. 200 n.iai, circulcs* orl&gt;lt
211-C52! (Pv';rl:)-Rond02Vc-ao with 21S LEI at 200 n.iai. orbit
(2) crcv.7.:.n to 212 LF^l by EVA and start A214 c::pcriacirto
211«CS!-I (Raok)-Tran3for to 120 a,ml. circular orbit
211-CS:i fRrok)-CcvnaE.ct mipplns csxpo-rlmcnto
2U.-CSM (Racl:)-Traasi'er to 200 a&gt;mi&lt;i cad readezrvouo with 212 LSI
Lri crcv recover data from rack by EVA
23J.-CS'-Unclcck froia rack
211-CS:i-Dock to 212 LSI
Cc-rr-ents; Totally unacceptable due to co.':c)l£Xity and orbital
rci-m-aticai of manned LE-I cad CSM, i.e., LM at 200 n.mi,, CSM at
120 n.mi* Dot a deolrablo candltlcax.

caicLUBicn
Table 1
Method I
Method n
Method III
Jlethod 17
Method 7
Method VI

i?2
Dot aceeptablo
Requires otra
corbital cbt-i^es
Rcquirco EWI and
cornpllcatee
emergency
Dot acceptable

TeCblo II
#3
^1
Dot c.ccaptable
Rcauires extra
orbiial chc'eges
Pequirca EVA nr^d
coaplicatos
emergency
Dcrc acceptable

Table I lists tha 212 launch first folloircd "by 211 (manned). Table
II lists 211 launch first foUowad by 212 (unmatmed). At this tino, uo
cen state tiiat It is preferable to oeccroplish all rendezvous vith immnimsd
vehicles having a passive rathc-r than sn active role. TfcGrefoi*a, the
unmenncd 232 should be placed in orbit prior to launch of the mannad 211
80 tnat all Dnnojvcring is porfonncd end ccntrolled by the crevr vchi-clo
(during its poxfcrcd phase). This is preferable frcm safety and pfcyclological reasons in that the crev is actually initiating and temlnaticg all
povnred maneuvers and can tal:o abort action in tha event of a coHicion.
Furthermore, the pilot has the plysiologlcal advcntaga of asoui'ing thTt
he has ccn^plete control of the powered vehicle and con utilize his Judgment
OS rcq\ilred. Therefore, ^AlsrQ the choice c::i3ts. It is always preferable

�to plsce tho unEaonGd vehicle In or-bit prior to the Inunrh of the n enned
vehicle? or In ths event the arjsiiGd veMclo is la orbit, to pla-- tl s
^ f
.-nd P3rmit the tnsnn^d vgMcIo to
Inltloto o povr3rca phase to accorTOlish the rcndcsvoia. 3aocd ou theea
^yr^.1^3, the first choice frcni sn operational poii;
u
Mctaod II of Table II as described belov:
^
circular phealns orbit
mapplr^ and weather expcriiaerrfcs
200 n.jnl. circular orbit
? I
' rendezvous and dosk with 212 LBl at 200 n.ml.
Conduct Ani ej^ierlaents

B,

OEERATIOHAI, MJIHEUVER RTIQUIRGIEnS (mssion 211/212)

r.f

^ forcGolna elLosIcci profile, tha folloid.33 is an analvsls
nancavera rcov_lred to perform the mLsslL ^iSS
recard to ®^sriiSwat ccaisldezatlonad

FnrOK; 21-1
1.

Assinna velocity tilnmins and ffisncmvcrins
is performed by S-r/B until
separa-.ion. SMa includes orientation for tknspositiS Ld dcS^.

2.

Tra^positlon and dwhins (starl;
+X axis fcn.'oid and opprcximtely
in the trajcotciy plane, +Z axla vp) ~ hO minutes.
^
a.
b«
c.
d.
e#
f.
g.

3«

Add 2 FPS forvrard velocity to CSIi,
Perform I80® pitch maneuver.
Roll - 63°.
Subtract 2 FPS forward velocity#
For final docking, assume 15 mlnimtm pulse cyolaa of
ECS control axes.
Eotate mated I'chlcle 180° (place +X axis forward).
Jottlsoa S-IVB using 3-IVB ECS.

During the rack experiments operational phase of the mission at 120
n.mi., the following manemrcrs are performed m a
basis:
a,

EttJ alignment cnce per day. (X axis unchanged, rotate +Z axis to
+30" above horizon, maintain fine mode stability 20 minutes).

�b. Uavleationcl clchtlnsa tvico poi» day, (X axis tnichoagccl, rotate
+2 axis to local vortical mil por.ntcd toward aarl-h. Maintain
fine node stability for 36 ninutco).
c. Anoaiae the str-i-t up and stoi&gt;plni» of alx barbecue nsncnvoro x&gt;^r
doy. Asauae c 90® yav or pitcli i-oallGav.rnt frcai nonral fll^
oUgnneat to the bai-bocuo at.&amp;lt\\ile which orients the Y-Z plane
tei^ard the sun (+20®), EstnbUsh a roU rate of 1 to 2,5 revo­
lutions per hcur obouc the }: axio. Aseur-.e driiil.iig mode oneo roll
rate is obtained. On stoppjns, i-etum vehicle to original attitude.
In preparing for the orbit chrnge, Uie *Z axis is fonrr.rd end appradLantcly parallel to the local horizcrrijal. Ihe -Z axis la down and
epproxteateiy parrllcl to local vertical. Obtain required ^ V
using SM idln CTiglne,
luring orbit
a.
b.
c.

transfer perform the following;

One
aligon-.c-at (Ssc 3a).
One navlGotlcnal sighting (See 3b).
One midcourse corrtjction: Assuaj correction of 10 fps.

Cli'cularlze orbit using main ffll engine. Adjust X axis about 10® In
pitch.
Brcrp RACX.
Rendezvous with Plight 212. Use Qi-HCS for following maneuvers:
a. Adjust velocity total of 60 ^&gt;8.
,20 fps In fine incremants),
b.

Lateral translation of 3 miles»

c.

Vertical translation of 10 miles,

(tO fps in coarse Incr^nents,

d. Assume 30 mlnlsnna inpulsc Qrcles of each ccotrol axis.
On a daily basis, the following maneuvers are reipjircd.

(Same as item 3).

If the I^/AIii is undecked fcr experiment purposes:
a. Plight 211 will be tho target vehicle for subsequent dockings.
Assume fine mode stability in normal flight attitude for 20
minutes for each docking.

�n
b.

FHchfc 2U vlU ettttlon k.^op oa Flisht 212, i.e.,
a
poaiticn abowi 1/2 rile below aoS vlthin 1 to 3 itiles aft.
(Contiji«.o i*cciiilrer;c'-ts of Item 9 \^iilc 8ta{;ioBl::cplng), Poi»
caeb imdocldas, subtract 2 fps oca then eajust tc achieve
station position.

H.

At cccroleticn of fUcbt, rotate corablnad vehicle so +X axis Is forward
and slow CSM (Plljj-it 211) h fps rjid translate down 1/2 mile to «-chlovo
aeiorotlCBi from ths LH-I (Pll^^t 212).

12.

Dui'ins the 8 hours prior to rc-entiy, cool tho fonara heat sliKld by
rotating the -X axis tovrard tl«: sun.

13»

For C-I/SM oepiration, the +X axis is rotated (50-70® above tho dJ.rEotloa
fllj^t end in the trajectory plane. The +2 axis la oriented to upward
local vertical.

l^^.

Entry starts vd,th the -X axis In the trajectory plans and rotatr'd
epproxifxrtcly 26® carthvoitl frcm local horizontal cad with the +Z
axis polnv-r-d awuy from earth.
Bote; Winlmum RCS propellant at start of ro-rartiy will be
pounds.

Fllrht 212
1,

Assume velocity trlDralng ond manf-urerlns is performocl ty S-rs?B vntU
separation. This includes oricnrtatlcn for transposition end dorldng,

2,

K tho tS'I remains docked there will be no maaeuvarlnj requirements
(the.CSl of PUcht 211 will cOso provide maneuvcrinc for CKG unloading),

3»

If LSI pperatcs undcclied:
a.
b.
c.
d.

Assume one dally H-OJ aligcment (See 3a),
Assume one dally navlgatlcml sighting (See 3b),
There will be no barbecue requirement,
For rcdccldag the LS-I will be the active vehicle,
1) Assume lateral translatica of one mile, vertical of cna mile,
and longitudinal of three miles,
2) For final docklag, assume 15 minimum pulse ^cles of each
control axis.

�c.

coTcifSKus concE-2ii;G Tins op^iy.iL'ioi'jLt. aspects (f Mirsica 2.u/2i2

Thl-s mioslon provides oovoral opblffial miosica proflloa, A rccomicndcd
profile haa' been Given la paa-asraph. A. Bualc mission nnacnvcrs arc all
slnilrj to Apollo reaulrcccato end will cnitall no nriW trainitiG cr cqvijsne-at
revisions. IMs is on cltcimatc AAP missicn and the inlsoion as descirlbad,
will ce-pler.-c-nt the dcvolopmeat of tlie basic Apollo miDGlon. The possible
separation of the LS-I for csctendcd ptjrlod'j of c:^srlmont operations Is
undesirable and will bo discussed lai^sr in this report.

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Prior "to Mloslcm 211/212 analysis, tba Tollovin^ naansiptioas vare
a.

A CSII/Rack (211) in a 320 n«mi. circular orbit for a total of
13

"b.

The l^Jth day sprint vlth the C3M trenoferrinG to a 200
ond rendezvouainfl and docldos vlth the carrier (232).

c.

Tho carrier (212) injected directly into a 200 n.mi. circular
orbit after the launching of 211,

d.

The carrier spends 13 dtya in a 200 a.al. orhit.

e.

The 28th chiy spent in CoM-caxTier separation and CM re-cntrj'
maneuvers.

f.

Six mcnlxours of &lt;-:q)ci'iinental time avallahle on the first day of
the 211/212 mission,

orbit

g« EiGht hours/day/mau are available for (3q)ei*i3neat3 (24 manhoura per
day).
h.

The one astronaut in the CSM durij^ CSM-ccrrier eeparaticn, viU
not be c:^ctcd to perform €:;^er3Jiionts,

Tho preceding asaumptlons indicate thnt thcsre arc 294 coxhocra free
for experiment time during Flight 211 (low orbit) and 208 ircnhcura arailable
for carrier (based on 2 men) exqjcrlmjatatlon. This totals 502 nrnhcu's,
A thorough onolyaio of the candidate cxpcric:.nt3 reveals a icivuireacat
for 659 manhovcrs, including such expcriaeixt-rolatcd tasha as alicamciifej
spocecraf-v attitude holds, un3toirf.ag and setting up cq.uipmi3it, EVA prepara­
tion, etc. It is obvlcvs that all these cxpcrim-ints cannot bo operated for
the desired time because of the deficit of available time (859 desired
cj^ierincnt time mirma 502 available eapcriment time = -357 manhours).
T&gt;i^ 055 cjgjcrimfnt times can bo brolan doun as follous in Tablx: I.

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All 3 crcwaen
ncc(io&lt;l

^Zwo erevmm
ncsded

One croua^n
needed

1^50 maniainutee - 13th day

616 maaairnrtca - daily
lot - 13th day
26 inamiiinc^ico - let, 7i;h
&amp; 13th dey
c:onminutcs - dally,
15th - 27t;i day
600 Kfamlnutes - l^th &amp;
l£tb day
232 manmimrtcs - 17th •
25th day

367* - dally, 1st - 13th
day
180' - and - 8th day

720 manminutcs - l6th day
900 maninlnutea - 27th day

170' - 3rd - 13th
903' - dally, 15th - 27th
d;^
10» - 17th - 25th cUy
120« - 15fch, 17th, 19th,
21st, aSrcl day
60' - 28th day

Inr-'jrnueh do -three
are avollahlc for &amp; wpviTmiiT^ ctf 88O moainlaiites
oa eny givtrn dry ( of -fiiGht 211 ), there appears to he no nausucl prohli^a
in performing
"of the oMperlircaifcii retpiirlnc three men. The ;jc?.vy ragjxlremcnto for all three ei-cvnrca on the 13th, l6th and 27th d-iys of the mission
sharply cmtoil odditional c:qjer3.ma.itatlon on those drys- Ihc remainins
tlir^ allocation oa thc^so three doys for the rcmainlns c-Aiv nzoabera io as
follo-.ra, Txra msn available for a rmxlimrfl of 520 Daniuinutos.
Eurins carrier operation vhcre only tvo men are c/arllable for
c:q)srir.cnto, it Is estimated that there vlU be
rrrsainutes available
for two men and 200 nianteo available for one man. K can be seen that
the 139ft manmlaute, doll-/ (l5th - 271;h day) requircmcato for two moa,
cannot be net. Iloroover, the daily refi-iairciasnts of one
for 903' per
day (15th - 27th day) cannot be satisfied.
It should be pointed out that e:q3criiK-nt3 l-Wll, 14022 and KQfjis have
no In-flicht requircnonts. 14005 and MOO7 were combined for purposes of
ecir tine study. ^-012 uas ccmbincd, in part, with MOI7. I-K&gt;19 is also
coribincd with iK)12. The FvA rcqulromcnts of S005 and SOOS were combined.
rVA rcqulrcaBoats for S016, SOI7, S018, SOI9, S020, S052, S053, S05f^, end
S056 were also combined.
A total (rf 16 E7A's, requiring 97«2 uanhours were prescaitly required.
Experiment SOI8 takes 5^
the manhcurs for EVA'a related to micrcmcteoroid
collections. All these EVA hours Includa tbs pre and pcst-Fv'A eetivities
OS well as the actual EVA tine; The longest period of ZJA outside the
spacecraft is three hours.

�(D
rExpcr^nto SOO5
SOO6 vill bo flown on mebfc ru end wlU
rcoulrs a I50 inlnufco EVA
on oatronrcafc apendlcc 30 r'inu;:c3 ouiside
tl^ c&gt;rXt collcctlcs film ccnnlstois frcaa tbo raclc. liuc activity
It ntjccaoniY to ccrry ono F13^3 for the EVA irorloir end 01,0 PISS for the
Gtcndhy in tba cvoat It is nccosaaiy for him to rcscuo tho LVA wor:ser«
There is ccricus donbt if the C/l-l can ctow tvo Pl-SS's, It mDy be aecesofuy vo pi'ovldc tlie stcndty an 'mbllicea., hooked into the C/il ECS
lone cn^h to allow reccuc oporationo. Another desirable cpnrc-'a la
to do the basic EVA by means of en unfblllcoa, Foi* EVA emcursioas
tho
carrier, it is ooomred that two PTSS's vrlU bo ovailable and that the
carrier will have sufficient rcauprOy cranaoditlcs,
Tho f
EVA wherein all the iVE-I cJtperimsnt packecos ore to be
rcti'iovcd (27th inissloa day) should not bo undertaken until the CSi
has docked with the carrier, thus utllialns a full crew of throe aitroC&amp;tluO«
The followin£5 ei^crimcnts inrpose the greatest time diaipoT^/^c m tha
Apollo crewEon:

C

M012
^M020
^005
esSOOo

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50h
270
180
170

Honnlnv.tca
I'uuminutcs
Kcnminutcs
ilanicinutes

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per
per

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doy

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deya
dnys
dcys

2-13
2-13
2-8
2-12

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•*3018 - 270 I-iGnainutes per dry - days 15-27 (EVA) )
**3019 - 538 Manmimttes per dry - days 15-27
)
•*3053 - 193 Mauminutco per day - drys 15-27
)
SSA • iyi
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15-27
«S05t&gt; . 5i5 I-ianntnutes per day - days 15-27

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Fllg^rt 212

«

An additional factor which has a serious Impact on tho accctnpllohEsat
of euoporirairts is the night and daytime experiment pperating requircaGnte.
The e:^p^i-3;nt3 above, marked with
can be done in deyllf^ only; •those
marked '
con bo perfoimed only during the nl^rttime,
A glance at the estsbiishad misoion timeline shora 90 manmlnutGS
oU-CTtted of exercise time. Inasmuch as M012 requires e:'"ercising m the
ergcmater, these allocated 90 manminvtes could be u-cillscd for performance
of exportnant M012. Moreover, the set up time required for M012 is 60 '
menralnutes per day. If the ergometor can be left in an asscsiblcd poaition,
this would save en additional hour of tixoc.

1!

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Ccn-t'rcJ. Ccnc.Tvnlon3 anfl Rogccxicndatlcma
A typical" dry of lUsaioQ 211 ^ras timalined in texina of e:spei*lmontcl oporaticna and frm thlo tlmvline tho foUoulns conclofliona and
roc cfor,gndntiona ware evolved;
X,

Periods of Watch xost be uf-ilizcd to occonrnlich the c:;porijacat8.
Tho duration of »,'atch poric^ vhoroin tho crcCT.an can he e.wsy
froa bio watch otation nrst ba ercbcndcd fra-a 15 to 20 minutes.#
Otherwise, experiments reqtdrics I7 and 18 mimite continuous
ciperatlano will have to be re-evoluated.

2.

Astronauts miat give up po-tlans of ttelr sleep, nsps, nci-ocaial
lygiciic and lunch hours in order to schedule the ej^jerlments.

3. Dally o::poplmcnt participaclOTi by crowmon will bo as follows;
Pilot
ITavigator
Engineer

- 319 minutes
- 395 minvites
- 36I minutes

h.

Eu^arlmznts requiring 30 continuous minutes of saqjeriment craoj.T'.tlon
can be pcrforiKsd only during an astronaut's standly porlof.." Ihis
means teat c:y crpcrimant i-cqulrine 30 successive minutes can bo
pcrfor.r-^d only once per day per men \-nlcso it is all right to
repeat the some eciperircnt within a men's 3 hour ctendTy period,
Experimarcters should tiy to arr£mge c:&lt;i!crlJn3nfco so that thmr can
be porfonsed in 35-20 minute inororarrts.

5.

Eccauso of the great demand on crowmen's tlma, it will be naccscniy
to set up appoi-atus for cxpcrimairt "X" end do pert of that expcri* mantj while this apparatus is still set up, it will be ncccsoexy
to se-t up apparatus for cuorerlzrent T" and then perform sera of
that csq^oriciim.t., A complete caa3ysis of space problans need to be
undcrtahca in connection with the csperimant timelines. (In other
words, available craw time alone docs not give ics a realletic
picture of \diat can be cpkimaUy nccccrolishcd within the C/li,)
The value of simulation cannot be over-stressed.

6.

Though the mlssion-sssigned experiments can be performod curing
Plight 211 within the allocated tirus, the C/H will be a busy end
crowdad laboratory. The aaditlon of e PCH to cany soas of the
exp^icontal apparcrtus would significantly r3.Ueve this ccngestlon
problem while saving a sizeable amount cxf time. The inclvalco of
a EC2i on Flight 211 vcu3^ allow the crgjcrimcntnl aK?sratuc to he
Initially set up and then left in an assembJad position. If
experimsrrt apparatus for Ho. llOOk, WQ^, K012, MOlB and 1220
could remain assembled, the nstrcmauts would face a more realistic
time schedule.

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# 15 mimite watch period \33 rcccnnsnclod by I'Tcrtin CoBsajay m "Cre^Qperaticas Eequiremonta" dated 10 Aiypist 1965.

�7*

It l3 Intcrcotins to nots tiuit once tb© typical mission tl^rollne
of events \ms ccnplctcd for FUx^lvb 211, there uerc a Diais!rm of
3^ hours for tbn three crcsnren por dcy on aa iiidlvichtal bnais.
lOnly one icna free) Tliis cucsenta that O3&gt;orim;ntcr3 should
look very closely at the car^Erincnto to detonnino vcys la which
e:-7/orlnents could bo cccdac-bcd by ctio person, rather than on a
pair (subJcct-ezptriiKater) basis.

^ «, Jf«allx-d etperlmc-nt cpei-aticns data for mssion 211/212 con be found
la Table I. The fcUoulns cocxeats ^ply to the Indlviaual espca-lmeate
^dilch present problems:
1.

KOOl^ - This e^erimeat req.i^lre3 17 mlnube time Inorcccnts. HeccaECiia 17 minut-e avcy«fr(x&gt;vorlc ollot.'ancc diurlnc astronaut's &gt;ntch
periods.

2.

M012 - Thouch the annVsts have requested this experiment to be
repeated three times a dry, it is reccmmonded tjrvt it bo done
only tvice a dsy. Tho oajj' moans of scheduling it three times a
Stbla ^0 ^1^
appuxatus scb up permnnontl;' - cn improbabllllgr

3.

M020 - Bequlrcacnts for this 30 miaxite caroerimenfc incividr- its
®:c^tica tvrlcc per day on all astrcaau-ts. It io recoscrnded that
it bo per*Oi-flcd only once per day. Otherwise, it inroosea serious
schcouling proolems.

4.

SOI8 - At tliis tine, this c:^parimsut reqj^ircs one 135' IVA per day
fw the orientation of nicrccetcorlte detector plates for a total
of twlve days. Reccmmand that:
' a.

Tho number of FJA's be halved, or

b.

Means of rcmctcly reorienting the plates be devised, cr

c.

Detector plates be positioned so that visual inspection con
be made from within the LEI, thus possibly cUninatlng the
need for 12 EVA's.

5*

SOI9 - Ccnpletely imreallstic rcquircnont for cons-taat sur/oillsnce
ly on astrcaisut during all dark-sldo orbits. Reccanncnd tbjtthls
tine demand bo reduced by 75^, Or develop an automatic device
capable of meeting &lt;u^&gt;erlnieDt objectives.

6.

SO55 - Requires two cstroaD.trts for a tottil of ^h6 minutes a d^.
Reeenmead ttot this rsojiirciaent bo halved.

1,

SO56 - Ells ei^^orlmcnt requires 320 hours of Plight 212 time,
Incliiding spacecraft orientation. On a 12 day flight, this means
ten hoars a dcy are to bo devoted to this one e:q&gt;cilmsnt. Reccsmsead
that the exporlmaafc be seriously analyzed to determine if it is
worth this Each time. Reduce caqoerimeat time by at least 75^,

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Calcium Balance Study
In-Flight Sleep Analysis
Human Otolith l^inction
Cytogenie Study
Bcercise Ergometer
nioraclc Blood Flow
Vector Cardiogram
Hetabolic Bate Keasurement
Pulmonary Function
Red Blood Cell Survival
Microbiological Assay
Antl-Q riastic Qarment
In-Flight Nephelometer
Space Suits + Lunar Exp. Hardware
Synoptic Terrain Photography
Synoptic Weather Photography
Trapped Particles Assyatetry
X-Eay Astronocgr
Hicrometeorite Collection
OV Stellar Astronocy
0"/ X-tey Solar Photography
Apollo Telescope Mount
White Light Coronagrapb
High Resnlutlon Photography of
Solar Ataoaphere
X-Ray Teleacope {21V215/216)
Ultraviolet Spectrometer
Intensity of Solar Flares
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S005
Is ncodcd (In C/JI-Fllchfc 211);

MOO6, tho following !27A e&lt;iuipacrrt

lunar SpiaCQ Suit Aaseabl^ (3)
C'A
(2)
LCA
(2)
era
(1*2)
•PISS ( 2 ) and spores
Al-dJ (i) and spares
Aim P^iol Sijpport
20' Tcthor (2)
EVA Visor (2)

)

Boaed on

)

iVDay Mission

"^If only ono PLSS can "be sto"/ad in the C/M, the standby crowaon
will need a twenty foot nmbillcal (hoohed into tho spacocraft
ECS) to perform roooue nisoions if necescesy. It may also bo
possible to substitute 75 foot itabilicolc for the PLSS'o.
For experlcants SOI6 and SOI8, all the following EVA equlpoent vcwld
bo transferred Into tho carrier (Fliglat 212):
TI-IA
(2)
LCA
(2)
*C\'!Q
(11*)
FLS3 ( 2 ) and spares
A^^J (1) and spai*cs
Al'U j\xGl Sunport
20' Tethers (2)
EVA Visors (2)
*31och U Pressure Suits (2)
•Portable Light

)•
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
)

Based ^
ll*-Day Missieu

*19 additional C^vG's will be needed to "bo carried into orbit by
the carrier. (2) Block II suits also to be carried by carrier.
It should be noted that a handJiold system must be developed for
crcwrnn stability at tho work locations. Morec/cr, if an AJS3 is not used,
a handhold ^stcm will have to be developed for crewman transfer.

�o

CRsw con3r:rPMV.eio:3

CARRIER Ri:CO:.::-u-ro\TICTiS

�Crev Ccnslflgratlcais - Mlsaica gl?./glS
Tho cdcctlon of Q carric:.' tajod aololy c© crow con$idcra'lilons lo
on cs^ircaaly dlfflcwll; •took. For c.-ftng&gt;la, -fcha aMUly to iBa5.ntaln on
otation for a pariod of two vcate ii tha Gcelnl has bean dcaonotratcd In
a ain^jle flight by highly motivated astronavrts.
this particular ease,
tba accccmliohmant was a chaUcngo of e slncolar feat rathor than a
routine occurrence. Tho tread today is to incrccae the vorKLoad ccd tho
nisslca duration scvei*al fold in a spacecraft that is so/crly restricted
end limited for a I'f-doy mission. Wo mart accept the rojulto of tto
Gcsninl end tho initial threo nnn Apollo mlsslona as islnliim E;trada"da for
crcv/ habltabillty and ccaaforb and attcagJt to iarprove thcsa standards for
tho AAP missions.
Habitability
Environmental paramcrSors are not a consldsration for carrier tradeoff
studios in tbat the cabin atniospherci idH be maintained at 5 + .2 p^i
normal, 3^
cmnrgcney end prior to BVA egi^ss, 100^ orygonV relative
humidity from hO to
cabin toapc;rature 75 + 5*^ aad &lt;5ebln dicoldc not
to excc^ 5 millimeters of morcuzy for nOTngil operation end 7*6 mn. Eg
maximum*
Crew Comfort
The LEi and AIEl rcpri&gt;3cat3 a total iMressurizcd volnr:c of 8o0
with
a vorldng space of 122 ft-^ for two ni'ai* Weiste disposal end storage, food
and sleeping facilities are ninlmiaa end sized for o 2J&lt;-~hcur mission with a
reserve tlmj of 2k hours. Eor-iaii crew operation requires suited astronauts
that may'or may not be prossurisod. Fccal collection with two cuit-id cramcn
in tho LE'i would be very difficult. The ECM on the other bond, vlth
356 ft3 of pressurized volume with sepasrate waste focilisies, offers more
privacy for waste collection. The cppoz'tunity to brcalc the routine ccn
be tc3;en advantage of by utllizins the movements and tasks esscclated
%7lth the food storage end preparation areas. In addition, the necessity
for the astronauts to move around within the U".! is vciy liralting* TIis
actual operation of the vehicle is acccngjlishcd from tho craw statlcais,
Tho RCM could be designed to parciit mora moVGmmit of tho crow which is
certalniy dcsixablG on missions of 2U hours or longer.
The ability to r-aaovc the pressure suit for shirtsleeve cperatlon
oiid for personal lyglene, is highly desirable for all Apollo Applications
flights. Equipment and space for shaving and cleansing chcuid bo provided
for dally use. The IE&gt;I can be modified to provide this capcbillty for
a two-man crow. Pressxxre suit opieratlcao, including EVA, will require
suit storage, and ability for crew to inspect, clean, and diy each suit

53

�prior to storcoo end use. iluy siilt&lt;:d opf^rafcion vill require both oxiw
moT-jbcra to be la prereviro otdta so
tho dressing ond denning of the
salt, rcaovol and drj'ins, will probnbiy ;-ciiuirQ the utlli-Eatioa of all
avallablo free prcssurited apace. I;o other taalts, ecporimcats, or pro­
cedures nofually will ba ecconqjllohcid imivll the suits nr« stored.
Internal arrnngoiLcnto, Includirg proturberancos or £:harp edges, must
be ccOTr.tlblo with tl-jy ncveatsnts oact aotlcoa rcqplrcd for two astroaeirts
to adequately accomplish all cperatioas regplred with th.'&gt; auits,
ModlfIcatlcma ore required for alsoJ.ons that require separation a£
the U::-! from the Ccrmend Modulo for periods in excess of Sh hou.i-s, A
seven day rcnnned Lul separated from the Ccancmd Module wz^.th a t\ro-ir2n
crow, requires fccal collection and ston^go# vxine collection and storage/
dump. It is rcccavrcnded that (sclnting food storcge end juaparatica bo
cnlnrced to include a preparation a:v^. Perocjial hygiene f^ilitics
should be modified to Include provisicms for body and dojital clcannlng
and shr.vlcg. Shirtsleeve should be normal operating modt;. Chnnge of
clothing cvoiy other day, or threo changos for the seven day mlooioa
are minimal roquircncnto.
The LEI has ao^ provision for sleeplTig other than napping on stations
during the normal 2h hcnu' mission, hhca awry from the OoTsend Module
during a basic Apollo mission, tbo nrsw is crrpcctcd to
falrlv
BCtlve for the 2ij. hcji.u' period. no-«T.vor, on a ssven dry nlGcion with
the existing ci-ew station restraints, napping on statlcn-c cannot be ex­
pected to suffice for sleeping faci:'J,tle9. Provlslcas for uninterrupted
sleep for a miainrun of seven hours for each crew member la^at bs provided.
Similarly, this feature mast bn retained in its existing form In the
EC31, or suitable facilities provided.
The Conmnnd Module aoncally provides the
crow caaforfc reqoiremonts including a "gallsy" for food pi'sparation, and separated waste col­
lection and storage facilities. It would appear ot this time that the IttM
cculd have at least the same capabilily as tho CM. In fact, depending upon
the •Ission, the available facilltlGs could be euqpondcd to provide additional
crew comfort.
Craw Safety
The separation of the experiment carrier. I.e., either the lEI and AIM
or the ECIl and ZiE-I from the Command Module, represents an extremely high
risk sitv.atlcsa In that the ability to abort from orbit is delayed until the
crcv is aboard the Ccmmssd Module.

�6)

Ths ability to ecrcso froa the Lr:i tlira;3h tho batchss In tho eiroat two
mm ore conaif.tia^ eiqiorliucats, la (UiTicult end tiying ^indnr noriLtJl coadltlocs. Es-jreoncy cgi-cos of two {Vitroniuto Siid trcnsfc:.' to"
to the
^ preferred to roadozToaoing end docldLng, providing
the Cli is ^-oondicg iry, Sio ECJI eoiUpped VTlth the airloc"':, cpprrers to
offer M crislcr egress than thrcn-ii the tmmol aystoB on the Ul-l, Tm
airlcc.: can ccccr--aodato only one astroaa-rt at a time; ho-^evcr, the opening
dimensions aro considerably Inrger end more accocioodatln'j to the evltod
ootroaaut. Escrgcacy egrcoe should bo quicker and less
to tho
astronaut.
ability to provide assistance to a dlstreasad astronaut
dm-ins
or crcv transfer appeni-a to bo easier and milcker fToa the
RC4 airlock in preference to tho LEi hatches.
Retrieval of tho disabled astrcnaut through the airlock probably can
bo ccc^Uoh^d with less difficulty and capenditure of energy than through
the hatch on tho IS.I derivatives.
"
Conclusions
n».ri I-S
.
conilr:^n.-Qtion for tho noraiaL 2h hour mloslon,
and tho abinty wO incorporate addicloc-al crov hnbitabillty, confoit, and
s^c.y rccalrod ^or a seven dry misolon, a revised LG-I cnn be dcsifncd to
^ccmplish the i^sslon. On the cthrr hand, the fcatur-es alrerdy available
w
Module, nodlficd end cxpsndcd in the ECM, ccabined vith the
3
an ^rlock, certainly pi-ovldes a safer, more hnbltabillty and
coaiforfceblo configuration for a two-man crew on a seven day mission.
«

Carrier Chice - Ist, ECU;

2nd, LEI

�c^cmrasj™ E^&gt;?.fimy?ron3

CRBtf CCE3IPKRATI033

�V
4

Connliislono cind Reenwwi/;^^3^.^^ons
mont ccjnaidoStioaa^ Sa°cSrl2'coS^°^ spscccrcft operations, cxpcri~
Prccnt^ OS relate to
^
LE!/Aa:i configuration.'^
CS^VJ^CM/Aril or with the CSt-1/
cecoii^lisbed i,^tlUn the mlosiok
Pi^oscntly defined ccnaot be
times and rcpoatabiHt^ ^
opezatlng
the niosloa could preuce voluaWo
oxporlmcnts,
me^s,^^Quantlty of o::perlmental-dntf^f- ^.^^-1-

inrtopoildait

f

^riSSS™-

ssi? LT? —-s

ssSi~'/•~
\.

presents a vc^
siSiS^'^rthQ^ caiTlc-r for seven d^ys
event of nn emei^eS^ Invoi^rn^^^i^S^ abL^
^
^•psnmcnt comer roust soai-hw tiansSr
^ crewa=fl,.ln the
Cororond Modulo before ro-entuy Prcccd^Ss^aJ'SliSrS''''^
^
alccpiyat'S^^vS^^'
iJito tho LHM and are asaiKscd part of the ROI.

«incorporated

•££'?^.iSSSS-.s?S~=-^i~
O

s-?

��CRE'.v C:":V.T*Oi^S IJD l'-3b"IE^TS
'KE^lMJNAir

•1 A-VjTJiiT if-6

Approwed
(i. A» fiotUji,'

/

f^r9M Operas .ons, AAP

�CKD/ (iPBoATJO^;? R£.;"^^;7^S^-TS

YAHLE Oi CON" :nTS

Human Factor SoqulrciBcrta
Cperational Scqutreraeffis
Astronaut Training
Crow Equijauent Data

�a.

Miacion AS-2C'jA, fjC-012 Cpacf?raft Oijorauioa Ri es

b»

Aosusip fc '*.oin,3«

c.

Espcriaent Tallot Opp'-a^Aonal Conat.-.ilnt, fi5-3/?!AA;

d.

NASA Jftttort P0H/0]3VL~l3« datfd j5 L -Tairjajry .19£;6»

e.

NAA tntercal latter, 692-80't ^50-66-')17, dated 2 Fob;.'uai7 L^6,

t.

NAA internal Jitter, 692-3cA-050-66-020. dated

g.

Design Reference Kxetnotic LE7)~M0-l2., QAEC, dated 50 C.tober 196'».

h.

Apollo E.;i.a.ncioa Syeteaa - LC-5 Phass- D Fxae.1 Se,,or:-.. Vol. 3V,
dated S
1965«

i.

Apollo S-;t£-ns3on Systems - LSI Hiasfj B Final Remrt. Vol, TTI,
dated 8 Deccrrber 1965«

J.

Desj-gn CritorJa and Reference Data Jfcindbook for Uv&gt;ar- Stpleration
Systeasf Vol- II, NASA, li'ir.tsvllle.

k,

Systea A'^alysis Sxtnmary, Part II, Na\ SID-65-15;1&gt;-.2, dated
29 Dcoeaber 1955,

KOTS:

HAA«

!C101

Febi-Uery 1966.

bliore appropriate, the l«iutf'- de »igcatiwi of tb© souree reference
is placed by the psi'agraph nuBflsev",

�r

X.O

HUMAN FACTOR PS^UIR&gt;^-?}TS
1.1

Scop**

Theco requ-trnraents applj to cqui.pfj»cit and warl: p.i.n^o which dlrcctlj
affect the flight cre&lt; durtn^ Intr?veh1ruJ-ar Ar tivUJos (IVA) and
Extravehicular A:5tlvit5ea (BIX),
1-.2

Purpopo

The primary purpose is to eptabldoo spcclficacionc for the equlpsenv
ouppLiftr and AAP design and tticsios plaanlng g"o"o.t, Tu is an ohjoc
bivB to tnaintai-T. st.nndordizer-i.on with the cr.le .ir.g Apoiio svotem
hardware,
1-3 General Reqti^"roT.anta
1,3Ipplementatlon
iBplcaeu^at-ioA will be ucrorplichod through decdgn roviowcioterfac© docuocrtation, oni -confiyirtttion copvrol.

l,3-»2
f-

_Equ'prerit. Slandqrdtz^At'on
EquipRonl coaf'.guraticn ehojld be sini:ar to certstieg Apollo
flight eqalpmcnt BO thti ere.- will require minlinal special
trainingc

1«3®3

Equtp«&gt;ent. Deslgrstioa
/

'

Bquipe-ent will be named for case of Idnitif-iration by the
.crow rather than no confom with sciectt.o.r custom or
academic precision.

1,3&gt;^ Exceptiop-s to Specific Regvirrpcnta
Exception to specific requlcements will be made by reference
to the general requJrci'.ente,
la3»3 Supplenonte to Sreclflc Beg ji rcmentg
Vhen a des5gn requirement is not spccif.cdc typical Upoan
2hglneeriag practicfs will no followed, Tho following
docunentB are recogrlzed as authoritative in coating good
Euman Eogineering dfoigas

a, KtL-ifn&gt;-13036 Zk April 1962» (rriL-STD identification
Marking of U.n,- FP.'.tn , P.roperly.

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b. KT]&gt;STD»^3A 1.
c, HII-SIi&gt;-803A-2 (US/if)j 1 Dcrcenhcr .I96'i; Rirt 2.

d. HIL-£1».12B, 18 Kay 1959^ (AhbrcvJal ionc for use oi.
drawings and technical type j.yb Ucnfcion.n).
(£&gt;•?-

�NPC-^CO~lj 18
RTid ^{SC S-ofp" wont i^l, :?ev . B,
26 April 196i», (Ap')Llo Con^Jsun-Jlo" iiir-imi).
MC-999-00'J7. 15 Septcraijer 1952. KAA, (Grrcr.il CpcclfiCQUoHtiaan ahcincering Seelgo nrltexlo fo;* Sfooecraft Syst©a3),.

�'•

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Ami PtfYSlU/iL PJKTGii HPXfJ^ !.-^?4r:r."".'^
- ''•1 P^ro-il Cr-.'-ti-.a
3jyi» Crr^ir'a
Cj)

Tfie 6£bo cf -be cr^wrar ahalJ. be wdfhii: the tpj'jjc froi
5» to
pc?)i-.'aMon ac ^iven bei.ov.-

y^GTRONAin' STZE Clfr'fI::n'A
Mcnonreracnte*
IIS.TGUT Fn02l FLCOR
Stn,ure
LVo Holghtj Standing
t.cr.-it-ale
Crcrch
Foot Length
Foot Braodth
bpper Anu Langth
Forparo-IIand Icagrh
Hand Lnngih
Cheat Braadth
Wa.'-St Bri adth
Hip Breadth
Wrlot Brcodt-h
Forc-nro to Grip Lcngih
FuQciional Reach
Eibow VJrioc teagth
B"ihev;-Raot Height

66,30—70.9'3
62,1/V.6?.O5
56,'? —6'4.„25
30.31--33.79
lO.C:-11.25
5,70- i?..52
11.85—15-59
17.i?—20.39
7.2:— 7..83
n.3-'—12 80
10.53--12.'?8
12.7':--:'A.33
2,2?-. 2.'I8
13.1 &gt;-1'? .56
29a:-.5J^,.hi?
10.8 j—11,96
7.51—iiooa

69.25
59.19
32,92
10.-56
h.07
•5.57
.'8.'t9
7-'?7
12-33
12.36
13.88
2 &lt;35
-?3-67
31 ;i2
8,99

DEFras
Ccc-ot Depth
Waiet Depth
Bj-^cok Depth

8.3?—•
7.M«— 9,92
8,«»2-^aD,55

8,95
9-2?

SEATTD nEASBREHENTS

^

Sitting Height
£?© Height^ Sitting
Head Height
Kr'ee Height
E2bow«EUbow
K'^ce-K&amp;co
Shoulder Breadth
Rip Breadth
Buttock-Knee Length

35,00—37,67
29,21—33.5'»
83—5.6?
20,r .—22-83
16,97-~20;20
13,31^-15^51
17 51 ••-I9.IK)
15^30
22.03—25.63

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5,29
21,8.5
13,90
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18-91
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23.9-9

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lOEgth
Bro-vcii-.h
Cli^unforcnce

8.35
5.71— 6.1'f
aa.Ofi—25.70

7.^3
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22.7A

55.3f»—'!l-53
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36.2(&gt;'~38..'f6
21,0^^—2^
15..2&gt;-18.07
13-.9'' -.16.77
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30.7f^-ll.8l
6,5"-.- 7.52
9.13
12.00-13.5&lt;»
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Wnis"
H^.p
Opppr Th '.gh
ij&gt;wor Thjgh
Calf
Arvkic
Bictpa (Flexed)
Foitaro
Wl-l3t
KatJd
WaisI; Front
Haf.et Back

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15,10
IL,39
7,03
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&gt;.8a-59,oi

37„7i»

ia Inches
Dloplr»y and Coatrol IcnM'.lon

(J)
Control pot^ets and £i.iop".ays shall be so located An
respect to tho cre*&lt;?can''o restrained oponttiag oto'-Jon
that they are wltWn the noriial reach dint-ance of a 5tt
to 95'^ percentile Pnn, This fucctioral ans rca'-b dietaacp \a defined 5p tho foliowlcs tahle,
PfiOoX Xnyorte should be constrained betveea tiere Units
but noiT'.illy clo.^er to •:iat defined by the 5a percrntile
cret7r:.-&gt;:^. All controls will bo adapteblo to efricicoi.
opora^'ofl Jjj eifjor c)i»r»s of preecr.tro of esilt, PraleiKlnary Ita-tJi-- Cfper^aertol tiata indicntos n tKsxinuro forvard
rea-?fc of a 5&gt;2 pereentiJo cian in a epnce cruit Is lens than
17,0 inrhfis.

(of

�nsiGHT A30VE
SF^T IW
-_jNCHEs_

mmi

0

15

30

'if.

et)

V5

90

105

u&gt;c

17.^!
23.9
2?..6
29-3
23.9
2S.3
25-1
20.3

IC.5
23.5
23.0
30.0
30.0
29.3
2S.9
21, :t

19^2
25.8
28,S
30.8
3U1
30,0
2G,9
22.2

19.2
25.3
29,1
30.7
31.2
29„i
25.7
ZO.k

21.0
26.5
29.5
31a
31.5
30.5
29.0
24,5
16,8

21.0
27.0
ro .0
32.0
32,5
31.5
29.0
25.&gt;5
18,0

22 „0
28,0
53-0
" • T

22.0
27,5
50.5

2if.5
29.6
&gt;a,i

Zk,S

Sib I-'arrr&gt;zt.! !•» (Tr,)

«6
0
6
12
18
24
30
56
42
48

•

.
17,0
19-4
21.3
21,6
20a
17.4
12,7

*

21.5
22.9
23.4
22,0
18,7
13.2

25-5
25.4
24.9
25,7
20.2
13»6

16-0
22.4
24. 9
26.0
26,4
26 &gt;4
22.4
36.0

17.9
25»3
27,0
28a
28.0
27,4
23c9
19a

SOjbPorcflnfclle fin.)

.

%

23,5
25.8
26,0
25.2
25o0
.19,0
iao3

3.7.5
23.0
26,0
27.0
27,5
26,9
24.5
19.5
13.5

•19,0
24.5
27,5
29..0
29,5
28.4
25.5
22,0
15,0

20.0
26-0
28,5
30.1
30.5
29-5
27,0
23&gt;0
16,0

33,0
32.2
30-.0
26.5
19o5

•

r

19,5
22.5
24,0
24.5
25,6
21,0
17.0
11,0

0

^6
0
6
12
18
24
50
56
42
48

32.4
30=0
26.0
19,0

PnrccntlTe (In.)

S

0
6
12
18
24
30
&gt;5
^•2

48

22.7
25.1
26.6
26.3
25.9
24.5
20.8
.35,4

21.6
27.2
28.7
28,7
28-1
25.7
25.5
3i;..3

?.l„2

Z2A

25.5
28,7
29..8
.30.1
29.4
28.1
24,6
18.3

27-3
29.7
31.2
31..L
50,6
28.1
24,5
..8.2

2? 5
2B,6
3\a
32 5
53.0
31-9
29.5
26,5
20.&gt;

34.0.
33.3
31a
27,5
"

30,3
33,.2
5'»&lt;6
35.0
3U,-'i
32.0
29-0
21-9

25.5
30.5
33,5.
35.0
5s,:i
54.6
52.7
29,7
24.^&lt;f.

35.1
25.2
&gt;0.5
33,5
5sa
y,,e
&gt;5,2
55.1
&gt;0,0

�PrcL'r-.ry

i j 1 tv

Th- eq.j*i)0.;nt «. f I !)» il'- j)gnycJ
pr^•8a•i^^ ctfit
The fflt-Ml-i.iy

e-^V.ecvjvliof

jjiy ea-'Apollo

do-a not pi-OJid;? fM'fldof
The raflge of raovonnnt
ar.d fr gure 2-1.,

v.-^ i-ju.a'v. *i;,;, ,b-

pr«s«ntnd
of

-i : Fiiiinri- H-l.

nir,r.k.'l',

pjoTomeji

in «nic!&lt;iar'.scd

a6i.)

In all asco.
In Table

RRiDTREMENTS ^'OR THE mrE^™Y flODT
&gt;.OVmE?iTo IfiTRAVERICUIjlK AW) £.XTRA\ vfllCULAR VDH. AT 3,7 PSIQ

A«

NSIK M0311.TTY
Flex-:on

'forward-! ackwsrd )

'

&lt;^0

Flexlca (loft-r.Vgh-)

^

Rotation (AbdU'-tion)
B,

SHOHLDER 1KBT1.TTT
Adduntlen

^3

Adbuctlon

225

Lateral - Medial

jjO

FlpjdorEKlencion
Dcwn-up
lateral Rotation

55

Medial Ro'-ation

C,

1

ELBOW KC«rLTTT
Fjexion - Ettenoion

D.

J55

FOREARM K0BTLTT7
Supination

(pairs up)

150

Prooation (pains down)
E.

75

WRIST KOBILiry
Flexion (Adduction)
Sxtoaaion
Flexion

(Ai)d'ict:ion)

(Barkward)

Extenoio.n (Forward)

55
• .

35
50

(x&gt;1

�scvf mohilit:

OF J50VEMEHTS
( fN Dro«EES)

HOV&amp;iEJ'TrS

'J?RUKK •• TORSO KOSfiLTTV
Trunk
Torso
Torso
Torso
a»

Rota^'Jon CAdbuci: lon^Ad^luction '
Flexion (Ini-.oral " Modlai)
Flexion (For^'iard'^
Flexion (Bs'^kward)

HIP MCETITTY
Adbuftlon ;leg s^' cai.^l)
Addnction (knea beat)
AbducMon (knos beat)
Rotation ^SitUjig)
lateral
Rotation (Sitting)
Hadial
F.loxioti
Extonoion

H,

'O

30
35
30

30
V3

35

KHEE kOBTLITY
Flexion (striadlng)
Rotov/'on (oedial)
Ro^,?.-..lra (lateral)
Flexion (kneeling)

J.

.

70
50
80
25

120

55
35

160

AFKL'-; riOSTLTTY
Etctenelon
F'jexioD
Abduction
Adduction

kO

50
y)

�•

SPACE SUIT ASSEMBLY MOBJUTV
PRESSUSlzeO. TO , ^ FOlO '

�Any f.rca rrjqulrius any iBinlrul.-.ttion ?rd/or
r&lt;&gt;adou^.
of an InatruTcnt by a crew racbor vrl l.,i bo provided with
poi«l' vrt n-aos of crew restraint that will cctirol both
trojie-(atlonal nnd r;&gt;ratl9nal Biovrmenrla^o2.2

R* t,rr :tr.in&lt;^ Drvji-oo
Rt.r.tminloj; devleeo will be provided at 2WA work areao aod
Jn Qro.vo ro.-juJring -.-row troasDntioBal no/enwii. Acceptab\
dcvie cf 1nr bide•
""

developed EVCT haoclholdbe added)..

(Ujegraa to

b.

Velcro Pads - Conditions to be oidcd.

c«

P/indHolda •• Gritert i to be added.

d.

P;l.j,3n " Pr&lt;»l 1 CI 1 naiy ••?artin data indl-rato that rigid
ral)T ut.lH;'.»d for longitudinal tracslatlooal
should have .i re^rtaiigulvr crossosection 7/8"
wide X l-l/'J * deep and be olovated 3" above
tao .•Jd^accut yvrfare.

e.

Tc-'hors •• Conditioa.i to be added.

S

1«4«3

AeseroibiV ty
fi-ncl

Openings - (P-reU'iinary Ke.r'.in Data)

Ihe else of any op'jnlPg reiuli-lng the mut'»d sntronaut to
rrnoh in wi.th oo^ bnnd ipint be nt le-^rt &gt;&gt;'/-•' «;
v&lt;t&gt;'
ivi handa« at Iflinl BY/^ high x 25" v&gt;Mo, art! if visual
viewing is neces isry, t'li opooing w.sv b t 8" wide x 11" big'
for one am and 23" wldo x tl" high for -mo atns. SJoce the
suited aoti-onsut h.-s li ;;le feel rapsbil'.ty, vis»iBl capobll.ti;,
will gansraHy be required at any accoGO panel- All edgoa f h
projoctlona near the op-riing must be rc-'-ided eo ao not to
puncture the ^a'te cuit l.-4»3»2

Typo of Dcorn or Ponela
A door OP ]«asel optnirg outwnrd should hive a a. ilhcd for
8eeur.ing ir the open po'iltlon. Lnvmrd opecing coors oust
not trap the 3m 03 sfvii ....ocft during rr-at-ival.. Freo v.ypo
panels rauet be provided rfith
a positive 'Jraao of s^-owase
adjacent to the area and located so ec not to intefere wlVii
srboequent work activity.

lclf.3,3

E/A Pntch Sizes
(To be added)*

�Is'j.-'to1 G .•';•• t", 1 1
w
linttc which nun! hf tfio% «t1 rJjcll he 'rrovlded wUh lift poAnxe
In T.ine v/itli thf crntci of rarr,, Tiie wricht of the ujj.lt "
chslL be ffarkfd
on the •'Jiit and tho ccntor of nana shall tr
Ador,;.-;fied if it it. noi coinddent uith tho goffietrlcel
cpn-T. lioto ,-ba7.l bf hnajoned to poinit Ttr,joval and r-- •
ri:-&gt;i; wi'lh one hoi''d ur-df i- .TJmJ.tod vl;jibiUty coodiUons. i
aboli aJJdo into pooifci C'U and be concfcrwotod no that nliyr. •
mem is icpoasib le, Ur ;to chall slide ovt of position to • •
Um tc and rhall be ret rved froffl til'.* sujijoriiafj panel or
b.y .1 ranof- in tho dirt ftioa of reanval at the ritop. Dnl.
fhil., be prca'ided vdth ritanda or rR.-.ls J'or moc »/hrai out opond or aclc. The uui i will have no piojoctioBOc coble/; r
other tr.onrfcprap-ces whj th Ts--3\ b© v.'afivcd whl.l&amp; the unit x-j.
belli
Thr. syeten "ufil; Tot present j:!jorp &lt;«!ss.o or protrud.?
boyord lh&lt;? surface of t ho panel or rack whoa tho unit is ro'.
in xhe operating positi c r .
l.kA^2

U n i f G&lt;iyv&gt;r6
ly •?"""*?" "•
«&gt; 'owe ':hcy «. b,
or
r^oveo Kithout iootrurUon or tool.-, out oSall be p-ovlded
With a method of Btor&amp;yt .

C

f'iont! f 'rrj*ipt&gt;
To p-evont confkcten, f c-nponenta to be removed rhould be
rd.or rcdod or othrruder oLiirly IdatiHfied d.tff&gt;reatly
f en the c«!|icnent:? usee as repliice;.:cnft"..
Sau pmpnt S:-ae /-nd W e ' y h t
Hsximum s.\se for novoable cqu'i'saent is »fci.! t--.jr.i
Bf.sjn
O r b i t a l TVA
Oibiiral EVA
Lutar TVA
I?jnar SVA

Voif^ht

(TO BE ADDS3)

Fasteners
Grnc--ai
Mount .ing faateTfTft ahal ? rrquirr r.o too)o and shall be op^^n-V tb either batid. When a fastener io net see^ircd, th-io Bacu.l.d be obviars on JrspcTEion^ Fasteners to be latchcJ •ualatobod ditrior S!k sb&lt;'.fld not require an opcn.-i.ooo rpac-- v
xorcce De/fl ^yr.cv faolv ccs art uufatiefar.rory siace ihey cquirc rluward and rotaiJcnol Tir®'S/-TTtj srrh'''oh cioo'; b&lt;&gt; r^nct,.? i
ccthcrao
'

O
l-^o5®2

Fr.e-c.nor Pfrriorj
T- 1

�O

1-5

TI.U'filtlATTO'.The estcnwl r-blonr Ught co^di. Ic-ns f &gt;r the AAP ttlaaicA
«vll vorr frota
apnroxi«atoly rcro ro 12.2^0 foot t.vndi ,5, Secauao of the colllmted'notrrof thd Tishtv excfine contxa^n between Urec.f.ty ngl-.tort -traae end iboea 1ciLauov 07&lt;]Rt be exfjcotcdo
1.5 =1
- Cn^lndlns aroaa .jc^aaslble oy EfA la
u&gt;
whuh data recovery. «qulp,w;H c'lmgea, adjiiccrawCc, etc.. are
com cnplatod)
a.

AabionJ lllumtna&gt;.ion 'ox-els .i al.l arsao requlrins ary visual
re.oronce by the aatronaut sHtll be adjucmb?./! wlthta the ran:r&lt;
of 25 to 50 focn -.tQad Leo,

b.

'.•.'here cabin windous are prov ..ted the jnrontRl bt-ightaess ratio
eball be nontrollnble to ra* vos ?paB than lOrl.

c.

Light sources shall be of a 'li.ffuso type.

d.

All inrifcotora and panel are,..e ehnll have nn form nmbieat
1j gbt coveragu.

©..

L'ghc Gonrces ehaU bs e^ran,;-.d so thoc che vieidjig acglo
of the vicaial worlc ar^ja is n-.t equal to the onglo of indidence
f.roa the oouroft»

C
la5"2
&lt;j)

•&gt;

Work StcT-lcn tHuaufTvitlon
Tho general requirements for the mumlnation of wrk stations ai-e;
a.
'

le5»3
(j)

O

No light aoureoB visible to 'he operator ( i v noraal worlting
pooltioas)o

b.

Anti.-gl^re coatod iae'^nnjent &lt;-over8..

c.

Bulb rcplacoiBoni. froo the fr-jit of diisp1.!iy ptjielf no apocJai
tools r.5quired»

dn

Sharply defined irmatllnolD :ed narkings ret'U-ible vhen vlevcd
at any angle up to 60^? froo noraal of the display panel,

Brirhtncse L9re.ls ard Ad1 &lt;str!enf.&lt;i
Bo

For map and obnrt reading: n diffuse scitrce. oontinnouoly
adjustable to produce a hrig'-.tness level of 15 to 50 foot
latrborlSo

bo

For inetrunent. jiantls;
foofc'-levber^.B, whether

Co

Controls: allowance of nd.Ji&gt;*_-;-caat "for saparene ponel light eoM.T-a
to achieve apparent squa.i b.r-.ghtnesc.

do

£VA work areas:

brig . .peso level adji-jtable froi*. 0 to 200
.J.rated from external or iotcmal oo?irce/:

(To bo added)

7^

�!• I'lk'h(r.ep»

?.ii

vcH

f frrr
tc&lt; within:
a.,

5sl

b/'lVA.'n ti,-

h.

7^1 belwcf" the

'• '
• &gt;«&lt; ,n.'«

r, io» Jhould h, control

j ;..ri3o«lat(^ :r..r&gt;-»vr,.-;^hss.

.i/id i - jfliti'sr ini-tr-Jiiola..

c. 20;1 befw?ei5 Ihe '.it-jk jrct stj.. reraotei our:';jceit,
do '»0:1 befwseu a

o-ui-® .i, :! the oui'Viife adjaceat "io Ifc.

�c

1-.6
(J)

C07.0R CODTKCJ
'• .-houlj bo c.oiiip{it5*&gt;;i.c ^llh U^/AdoIIo
The appUcuble Tablon i-l acd 2-2 docuj.iin:-.ed in LlN "
5'iO-OOU of Z/WA, .»s changed c.t 6/3/64. are ohown
in the foUowing tables:
Ml..cd/,rds.

COLOR CODCNO (C0&gt; PONIJWl'S)
Ttf|TC
Tau

30227

Internal Kovoblo Stnicturr
(balch.s, access panela)

Ito Brown

5o:-.'to

Brown

20099

•live Gray

35189

31'Je Gray

351S9

Gray

35189

Restraint Straps
Restraint Structure
Kcstraint Upholstry
PLSS (Pa^lqvock)
Harness Straps PLSS

o

Fed. Std

Wal3a. Coiling^ Internal Stnict'ire

Floor. Steps, Wori S'^rlac*

c

Color

«bi te

37875

*bi te

37875

Cabling, Dixts, Internal

oajse as Background

Controlss Emergency

OpEi!g*~yellov»
&lt;• Black Striped

25553
27058

Docking Ring I^nnel

naite

27673

Glare Shield

'J iack

37058

Hand Grips

Tellow

25793

Hand end Foot LoTcrs, Knobs»
Control H-^jidlea- Son Illiua.
Push But fcono

Lt- Gray

Handles* Assist latch

Jatin Chrome

HCPR

Hardware* Instrunent Penel

-ray

36a31

Inotru'ioct, Indicator Hezole
Old Casct;

Gray

56231

Instrument and Indicator Faces

btitft or Black

37375-57058

�1.-6

"c-'Jrri.'irED

Color
Panola

y^l- S?d, 50^

'J .-ay

^231

tottering;

Wsite

37375

Sw.-.tch, Icvera, Toggle

Hatln Chroao

Koae

TeloB'opc and IMU

It-- Grcea

Z'iklO

COLOS COHiXSNlIfTS (SYSTE3I?)

xtrm

Color

Crow PJCTleions

-t,.. Bll'rt

Fed- Sl.d,

CosiRu n ir a t i ona

1J;«. Gray

26132

EPS (Elocti*lcnl Pousr Syaton)

Orange

ZZZk6

N &amp; 0 (Navigation 8t Guldarce)

Lc„ Gracn

Operat to.'ial TflGtniiDontatio'i

iJlne Green

25195

S &amp; C (£ ch?.lization &amp; Control)

'ellow

23793

Ecpert::c".t Hardware

-?&lt;'

�CptiBua panel ev.rfaco srenn r.houid be
unj displays.,

ur.-H\

for prloiity 3vbtj*s!.ea contrelj

With that enctpt^on, roD-.-N)lR ehculd bo

1)

£aoo of Operation

2)

Gequenee of Opera'ior.

3)

Fr'rqueacy of Operntion

k)

CoatroVOlsplay Rclatirn^'jin.-^

3)

Minimal Hnnd/lJiro Excuri'io-:

AecaLed for:

Autonotie flyatoms
with functlooa critical to crev safety shall have audibl
and vicaal warning sigcals ajid n-mwil o 'lrridea..
Controls shall bo decigued to prevent;
1)

Ircdverfcont Opera'-lon

2)

CrewTnaa Tojuz^

3)

Dofrage to Syaieci

All controls other than r.u..nd&lt;rd

Apollo

tcu.ipmen«

strata freedom from control --eve-ssl er&lt;-sre and

nl'all be tested to d&amp;TO

alia I t neot the system

precisioa requlr.-mer.ts with no more tha i one overahcot error and rwo unde^
shoot errorsg
l'7-l

Gor'-rnl IbOcr. "or Controls

(k)

The direciio" of norextat of the -control will ho corsJstert with tb
aovemcnt of rho conirjlied objec: or moving rortion of di^play^
Controls Bust be easily idc-ntifi.Viie by both^visinl scC 'actile ten
Because vleual cues are pr^inary^ iowovort the control arr.rklngc are*
ni?ot important coding method for ooaf:;^ol id^rtifioahioa..
%

All

eoDi.rGi.s will iiave two types of Inforoation Xaeatod px-oxinate r

the control —• idsntiflcaf-loa of the control funrl ion and raethod
control operat'on, vh-re r-«quirpl&gt;

Crebioed hmd

two controls on concentric shaft i for g'-ocs &gt;.nd flco 'nlj'.i
be naod only when cjiace limMati )&gt;s prohibit
controls and accidental oovcmant
hazardous cor/i.iUon.

of

coTf-^iV,
s'^

the use of ludlvidoal

&gt;r the controls will xot create a

When manual ixrfoxmanco rcqalrem:3ts are ouch t'm.t the rcni!;rollod
object can be adjusted in a lioi ted number of dis-rrete stops, dncea
controls will be uood..

When hlg'i-precirjlon iikTiu'pl ectflngc arc- rc

quired over a wide 'range, assitirc-tationel cor.fc'-ols should he ueade
All controls will be distributed so that no ^n©
burdened.

ll»Bb will be over­

All controls will be ieBigned, ori.cntcd. and located so

that they ore in acoottlsE:? .-iti. lonrol vrork habit patLoruo,
cusiomaiy reactions

and hvnuo reflexes.

It is des-.rable to recog­

nise the goneralised oovrcss of human error in t-he orer-vtioo of
controls in order thi

rh*

.-say prKciurlo then..

for human error exlats in the foJ.lowiag ercamplrs:

The potential

�a

Sim.l larity of control csvlcfiii, cauclng tl.R wi^ong coatrol to bt
octiintrd borauflf. of ro\ftiMiijj; Lt vritli oi&gt;t,}.hor,

b.

locatio*^ of controls t„o eaoc.ly rojsthcr 'r.nsln? ».nad»arteat
operation of adjno^ot '-ontro:.. and iatoxf'x'ii.p; with eaco of
. operation^

c.

Improper aequonrj.i.ij, :n«o ofj.Jiatment, one orerly complicated
adjuatmenta mutiny a',oUtkes .a coatro.1 cperotlon-

d. l«ng oBd involved prorodupes dlffieuit tc oomnit ko oonoiy,

Xa7t2

o.

Operation of cont^^3la in a d;v'cctlon conlp.ix^ to normal novcme
of the operator (}wrt.\cu\apl&gt; tnibject to human error during tJof otresR or enerr;.3icy),

f.

location of coatrolfl .u mich positions that t]ie oporator can
bruch or kcock againol theu, i;au3ing inrirJvcrleat opemtionp

g«

Arrangf r.ient of I ho ln:;t &gt;'ii'3oa* panel 1n is'ch s. v/ay that It is
.Impoosible or very dirficult c reach for one control vihilo
operating another^

Gcnc'a'l S-sfsini.';!'^ rri- .»p^r»

&lt;k)
Bcoanoo of the confjnc^l q- n.-^ ern .tad tho djf Crl v.-l, v of controlled
Bovcmenr by the astronauts, in 2eix&gt; g&gt;'aviJ;y -•a-.'lrcjw»ni., safeguards
iTiot be adhered to in tho d^nign -tf control? ixnd In/out of tho
console bo prc-lude toadvcr net. (..ctuaiion .of coniroiso Recooaee
Will be used for toggle ewitchos ^f it aprraro thau the rontrol
olght bo acTn^aiod ir-advertcntly, Guarde-l'p«oljhnt';oas. toggle ewitrh ...
^or levcT-lock-t.ypa tv,Uoh.-3 are •.•.^:^ulred for'iVncticns that are
^irreversible.. They wl 11 nnv.; re' -&gt;n3 installation depending the po­
tion, or&gt; tho .main disp^uiy coraoXe ,)rovlously etlpulakedl,..7-3
(k)

Toggle r.s-Jtr.hf^a
Toggle or lever^typr j.-it hc.u ma.- be two^ or «-hr{-«-peollicn, tab
handle,, or lei[er-lork "-.anile an 1 isotrentary cr Da;.rt3inirg in thai,
switching action- Total ..hrow d .itaneoc of iogglo .aad J.;ve--lo'ri£
switchc.9 should be
f 8 dcgree.'i. The force r.'cit'red to change
poGitien should be ^jO-IOO ouiiccg
Ad axial pill of 'fO • 30 oJUJces
is rccoamended to release the lev.jr-lork switch f.-om a iorked pos-ltior:.
Tho m.iaicaiin allov/eb.le spscing be^'^een log'jle switches grouped in
hori.noDtai rows sliouid be oc« in i on centers- Vlien xi.vtd in locaticaa
whore the baodle could po-'e n -ta /icd to «:r«v r'crb ^rs or be subje-icfd
to inadvertent actuavicn, tho sw..t;ch should be sc-aireccssod and pro­
vided i.lth barrier guacdl -u rbo 'i in Figur? l-J..
distanctbocyocn barrier guards .?h-'uid ro- be Rorc than or,.. Jjvch. t&gt;ierg:-a:-y
s'/itchea or switches whose iiuidv&lt;srteDt actuation would create a
hazardoua condition rn.ist iiave a '.evor-lcrk handle or be pro»;ectcd by
a guardc

nl

�RECESSED liVERLOCK TOGGLE
Figure 1-5 Toggle SwitchcB
- 112

STD 65-1534-2

�-ogg-/^-sw.Mch 0]ie.-atioii is varS-icol iv
foBltloa jalrB sS=oa&lt;i b. ,„ ac=&lt;
7^

*

-DOrfh _ .
rgi»ARY
BACKUP

gj,

Oif

eit?':.

Ctoi;;

tl.b xc L'bv,ins brtbari ,
TMOK'•A^^s

DJSAcm'm

_ D.-.i'ipy
dwoi.auinr

Brc£s;»3B

/ijjo
JiT'LvrC

Where a thlni position Jr added for OPi;, v;-e-oiild h« in «•»,«
center position orrept. .tore thjr «ouW
perforonnco.. In „h:r,. mrr OFF .tonM be In the litSr!'^Sunn.
l.-7oA

(k)

Rotary Switrhc/
notary swi^ohoe (with not oore \hon
-

12

floior-rohi.

^ * •. •

\

^oJeM'" ''"If "•
"«»« l-*~ *li roia^^LThen
I - ..ctpblc pocLtlonc Pbou.Xd be detnited. Eioh swJ tch ohould

oy a detent cao, to hc»d the .rliva.ins nhaft ia ZToAZ
nd.vldual ^Jtch positicne., A itop will be i&gt;rovXC.TTl "he
^cnee of the actuatir,5 rkaft's cotation exooot. in oases reouirinr
Joa-degree rotation,
,
.
-""juA-riniT .
^csTj switch throw distc-ir.:a bttwaca poait.loaR chould be 30 dee'with a torquo required to change positions of .12 - 100 inch-ouacee
of ^sitiona will be sjch that rleclcwJao ooveoent ie
on , ascecdijig order", "incroaasd perforuiance", etc.
I«7n5
(k)

Rheostots
l^ea the th^gtat 3.^ ncw.d rro^r. U« knob side, the maxi'M resir;.
tnnce should be in the OFP diroc Uoo ^c^t-h d4--r&lt;-a«Jr,. jvr.tw.n-- ™ dire.-t!.oa„ The ront-ol should .royatr, throui:a so a:^„.
of 300 oegrers plus or mj.nun 5 d j^raes, A B:«p..n-}tion OFF positio .
.B recommended to opaf the rhoos:ar. rircuit and should occur j stas the contact passes beyond the i&lt;a5;in!nm ropj.Btanse polntb
Depending on the ^st;allation rejuired. al;. -heoststa should
to the rotary Knob nesign as shc#o in Fxgure V4.

1j7o6 ^nmhwheels .• PotentioKaterH
(k.)

contact nm should rotate throy.-h an arof 300 degrees plus or ai.-us ID degro^rs.
Tf the poteatiora^ter is to be mo-Mtsd riush on th-s control ranel
bf the tl„,nb»bb,l bh,uld

�RANGSS
A
8
C
0
E
F
G
H

MINIMUM -MAXIMUM
2. i2r.
I.W
a687 - a 812
asoo -0.678
0.31? - a 437
a 43? - 0.56?
ao»3 - a 156
a093 - a 156
1.08 - 1.20

ROTARY KNOBS AND RHEOSTATS

ri^ur-i 1-5

Thumbwheel and Rotar/-Knob Switches

- 113 Sir

�c
Tho r'.arTclfjrd r trhb" ..i-:n
0. '/;0
jrch-?« nad
•'onill iijiiaatud,

&lt; •';
J&gt;r i

75 owucfte thnsusToul tl.? dw&gt;r«sejoi5 v-n-.^pf.
i'AS/iMv. toTi Si'-u-hry Sjy hM (i(.-jr:Kji
rti
or iiorl/.onhelly oa
ons-inc'j ccr,tcT.-„
^^c.-js i&gt;-e to bs n'ourvcd fJus^h wj in the
r^-Dcl nnd bavr- a mljtlr-in
sf C, 125 '"nrh. S-;•^-~lte(l p»sh.
b'iilontt Rhould iooorpcrotrr gvard » (P'y.fa j
:.o p-.n-^nt Inadvart'
ijctuatson
. h o rolor of tho ilJuTin-i «cJ pufiiiattro sirf^cc. I'-pc^v.^of; on
opplieatlon. wJLbo ^viaw .a
yolLow. ni, or
jn
nccordar.cs wlh eho-11
;v on H::.C-2505A. Vhen sot OluMira^^ed,
».he
'on facti or ca.-&gt; ::ovf!T
bA o ilcrcp^ruUr white with
n 1:7 r-r gr^a^ ar '-an'-fasl r.nf jo !face to i««gcnd&gt; and ir^e of tint,
'.pon viaua-L 3r3pectloOB

C

1,7.8
(k)

^i';y'jlt Breeker
CJi'^uit breaker dori.gi should coifonn to dst.-.ilc of Fir;aro i~6.
Circuit broekerH! gMieralJ;' iii-s o.f the pop-on: rolco.oa. puah-co^
rc5et-.type. Circuit V.ros ,r-n uiW be nordnf-nUns
ho.-jilng thf? krob in the r -s«t jsoiiMon wjli rot oferi-tdt? (&gt;.&amp;
r rcui ^-^brcak-tng fur-t ion .
The -rri.ppod r.ooditioa of h- p'oi • .jer-t.yp- .--iicu-.? breaker la i.r.d.vc3''•d.
by a white bcrJ whicr. is . nltiLina of f, ••.5/-..inc:h w.'de. The
b.renk'jr body aid head vili b*' h? -Ir, r',-t.d«r.- |r ,^...,,.,-,.1 .,i,r.v
*•
Ii.T.itod to tbf to? .-vJcfaca of »;/ • virru'^t e-- ake,^ s
roqn'r«d to re?i?1 a ph'vg.T- t.Tpe Aircjit bre..ker •rill i«&gt;t exceed
'2 pounds, and the forc-e rcqj-.rr» ic '-rip a c i nniLt brenker Battiei i
u'ii.1 tiofc excefl 3 p-&gt;'.;cdBThe mioiaoiB a7.i'-vatle spare between rirrujt. trealjers g"cjuped tc.
horizontal rows wl.li. bo 0- 8 ?.B!}x on center s.nd hhe dio*'oj&gt;f-p.a
bo'wfon rows a miri-j.; of o;:p

o
31

�o
rr* ;a
^•nG» &lt;
A
XLUV. O'-v

'j:iO

UG/ii :
• 9.tir,

P

ttov • • •

-A. 875
r.Oi;
•K

•*A&lt;T'- .
-KANOr. Ml&gt;l
A
0

" ON'.'*'
A - i'&lt;..\.'iv.,
.'J'0.«7
• 17$
- 0.8A3
r». ••
- 0.156

c
0

E

PUS E'JTTON SWITCH

G

RANOCS
A
B
c
0

MINIMUM • M/
0.W - 1.967
1.975 - 1. OCO
0.943 • 0.4t«
0.3IB - a 711

va•.

-

&gt;-v.

O'

3 ISHBUTTON :OVE! GUARD (TY»:C4

FigjUrs 1-5

1." • - /-?&gt;&gt;•*•» '•

Pu^button Sv'itches

�KANGCS

MINIMUM-MAXIMUM

A
t

a37S
0.«J7
a093
0. 156
0.167
0.250
0.37S
a AS?
a 281.
asAS
a
375
u. ISA
lo® — a J/3
a «s »i - a
0 . 5593
93
« ».A
I «t
a
730 _ I.OOt

c
0
t
ff

O

o
H

o

—

—

RESn CONDITION

-&gt;
—

—

fJ
Nw*

—

TRIPPED CONDITION

r
Figure 1-6 Circuit Breaker
- 116 -

SIC

�In tt? dosign of a n y Uco thr.i ,!..-olv=£ op^mvor.-^ o- K,r
ccn3-6' y r ^ i i o a t i i s th^r a ^ t h c d b y i-H.vch . t - r M n e n i \ u r r &gt; " ^ 5 v i o n w i l l

а.

Display irfomif:i,.a wiU be limited to the desree of accuracy actoall^

-dovstandablo.
Identified eo aa U, ot.-/i«te undue

5

•"•

E.-=.p=d.»,, to

.

б.

lDfomat...on will be prceenttcd in ouih a manner tbot any frilnre or
apparent

7-

All displays will be prorerly illuair^tel-• c-'V- --•&gt;
fureti-^r..
"'

.. .
••

lobol ^Keters
&lt;k)
Tho opooir.tc,viion of aet.ro, InolodJog polutor loMtlon. oovomoot
display scale,, and penersl frrm factor character-,ties, v-iii nrn^-.
to tse fcl.is-/ir.2 'y.-*23 (r-^-rec '.•? a-;! !•£)•
" '

1 8-2
(k)
O

lo

Single boriaontal moytng pol;ttar displayed

2o

Single vertical moving iKJint.jx- displays.

3e

Dual vertical ffioviag

*»«

Fc-u* vertical ajoving pointer diepiays.

5®

Single circular diGplays.

6«

Dual circular dleplayT-

pointer displays.

Meter Scale.
linear ocaTes ara gene.rally prei-r^d., Idien accuracy r^-ouiranentn
exceed there that can be at^alnM usi^tg a Uncnr .cSc SSS!
"f
e-pa=clcd to acquire the -Drdcd accuracv,
rc;pi;'rc(', to b? f&gt;r.'-ri;v,7,j trc.'i -i .-.(ij-j

. -^

,

--•

�i.

EL. n

JL
DUAL VERTICAL
MOVING POINTERS

SINGLE VERTICAL
MOVING POINTER

FOUR VERTICAL
MOVING POINTERS

Figure 1-7

Vertical Meters
- I2r. -

sr:

�%

DUAL CIRCULAR
MOVING POINTER
i

figure 1-8 Circular Meters

- 12" -

€ ( •
'••o

�rRANOrS

MINIMUM - MAXIMUM
.300
. .500
.187
.391
.093

A
»

c

0

..362
.562
.250
.343
.156

-

:C7

DRUM INDICATORS

RANOCS
A

t

C

MINIMUM - MAXIMUM

.718
.425
.093

.
-

.?«'
.856
.156

DISC INDICATOR

Figure

Electromechanical Event Indicators

'O- 1?.7 SID A'&gt;-lS34-2

�1&gt;8 3
(k)

D'np'i/'-- rcrr' 1 J A.Tnf&gt;j?frt.'!n
'
—
&gt;.ncr'.c &lt;.t:aM.3 y rv»sdwto. d.gi'j l or Oa.nlos. nhonlC b« Doni^Uy-ea
to read i n vr of »a* Mi-a !t«ihlo f.Uild t, 'olupw or walgh):
as rer&gt;prJ. V'r.;?'-Q.l eoalc indlcnt.or (Tiaup" for r-'bsyatea condltiou
raeti.l toring ::ho. *&lt;1 bw orrorged
by aycteni fyj Jtloii ihon by
displ-'jyod iv-.rn'i-jterv Chen by alpl.iibftt.Vc or Dusiftflc scc^itisnces 5c
deoccaJJng o-dftr of fT&gt;bgro«i.M. i'.n- typlr-oi ri„td syctctns, chc profcrrccl ord.-^r of dtspl/iy sf rongoutjitf rtadicg froci left to right O'r
ffoo top to boiioo la pi.lol. Hxes Is cs follnvcJ
In

Gyafon fua- lion:
Preo.Ttr 1

fOel., oxjilizor
"a

2a

^

D.6p,.ay;d r^rAmetors:
Plov., toiip'ratovo# prresnre, &gt;ii.'antlty» TQlcot aaperes#

3®

Alphabetic or ounoric rfquenco;
S.Tst.e-3 A •

Syvjten B
or

TcnU 1.
1&lt;&gt;8.4
(k)

T&amp;jik 2

DJcpVv pointsr Location nod NoT/nrnt
Jbo pnlJitcr In vertica I single-'p&lt; tnter diepL-iye fclll bo located to
the right of t.he scale. Jointer 'loveinent- io na up direction indicaVea inrreasfch values®
Tho pointer i a horizontal oinglc- oipter dl.nl'iyf c- &lt;; ?. I
above the ijcale (there isay be .lo/:U.taate exccptloJisJa f^'inter neve
went to the right indl'-at?y itirri't.eed valueu.. lbs {rd..lvidvial
peictcre on dunl-pclater •.ndl'-etors .'ihonld he lor.ifed oi'thoard of
thalr rosp^•cttve scales (Ue., b--:el, po.'nler 1; icftle J., scale 2,
pointer 2, berol). Pointer (aover-ient upward Indicates Iniroased
values..
The individual pointers on four»i)ointer lndicctor.3 will be ao ohow'^
in Flg'jrc 1-7 flrC,, bezel- poin^^er 1, scale I, piintor 2, pointer _•
pointer k, bezel)®
The pointers In dual elrc-jlar io' lcetors shovild pVvot about the
extrsaiitics of the horizoat?. I ex s- The lef- cfvxle cocuicrcea at nl.i
i33=degr«''c point from the -.op cc-n er point end oonclMdee countercloclcvise o t t h e ^5* degree p»iiit
The right scale co-itrcncea a t the
225''dGgroo poln' froa the top cc:\i.ftr point aad ronclude? clockwln
at the 315'dflgree point.. Pointers for both circular arc vori'lcei
dial fares should be close to the dial fr.ue and c^ale to reduce

�parai-Vix to a o»Piou4.
for c.cpro7«d
tieisee, tha
pointer h^^ad wi.ll be triar.|i«Ur m d the a i d s t of the pointer
shaft, where required, vdU ha parallel (n.g'.reo 1-7 actl 1-8),
1.8-.5
(k)

DlnclS"? Mni-kinera .

,
When oporationnlly useful., eolorel renije tear!' in.'is wet be used
on vortical, borlaontal, and circular diopla:,-3 to Indieat.o
operating ranges, "Kiree oporatiog rooge marl-rtngo arc recommendod
to indicate the following oouditionsj
1,

Nora.al

2,

Marginal
1
Prohibited or limit mark

3-

"" I

Rargo Pirkireo ehould be 0. 05-loch mde and extend to the Umite
of tlK; uiuile factor reprcscrted, Range mrkings vail bo imposed
over Lbe scale index tnirklnga to enhance reRdnbllity and visual
cue rcGTion.ce, Idmit ra-ixkaar: should be 0, 07'ln«ii wide end equal
la Icngih to the loag graduation of the scale in qvestioa,
Diraplaj* cover face© will ba coated wj.th an artiroflectlvs trans­
parent materials
l.-8a6
(k)

Alpiinr.'-V'erlc Roadouls
"
A.lphanuncric readouts should be ocmposod of dcctroluMaescent
eoven-line characters that have :&gt;ie following deaign details:
Slant-

- 14-2/2 degrees + 1/2 degree tc the right frw» the vcr.

Height

- 0. 500 Jnoh + 0, t&gt;05 inch

Width

•

- 0. 375 Inch i; 0, &lt;&gt;&gt;5 inch

Stroke Width - 0, 625 inch • 0, «&gt;15 inch
Spacing boiwecn nxwEorala - 0, IXy) inch ^ 0, C05 Inch DimlBsuiB
Iraeasyrcd at the bace of the num-jml
1.8.7
(k)

Elc t'-oirechanical Eo-eat. Trdlcaioca
Blectronschanlcal event indicators are rocomtiandod for use when
highly reliable go^no-go '!or two•oogition) iiTdicaoion^ o.r®
r e q u i r e d a n d when e l e c t r i c a l p o w e r n v a l l j i b i l i t y i s o e v c r l y v e strtcted. These Indicators are recommended for use as go-no-go
(opcrational/nonoperatloa.il! s{e .2s iad:'cator6 oni for vwo-positio'*
positioning Indlcatorn, e.g. , no'^'mal-naxia-.ia and norrr.al-rtfiii.lawa
poGitious,

1.8.8
(k)

Two-Pos'ltion Dmia Xrd.lcators
"
™ "•
Two-position, electroncchanlcal dnia indicators will be need for
status "indicators
1-8), The Mark (gray) poaitien of th?

�drtia vrtll i-jTor
tr« ^•^ane^^Te-J
l e in or oi&gt;Rrt«tJo'ial node or o r o t inhibited i i o n oneratic*?.
rho baohcr poiw
(n'U rmnie b 1 : . . / . n i v.1alr) position o," tio rirvrii iadlcntocs Kill
Infer tint .!;c 'r.. •no-led pyatesc «&gt;aiint lo i.ihibilsdl frto operation
or
'in l:olflrnc05 -03&lt;iLtirr.,
•

A pair of
»•:. ^etr^e-hvclcci.l dru.t iai'.cators t.'ill be
uoed ao por.i &gt;. . •&gt;&gt; i- icdieatore for eomo jsycteit &lt;iericea« Ono will
Indicate th .if:;
ir.d c-3;d.itur. yt-sitjonB of the dt9vlce.
second will i i i -ifi: : he r.omal std eiimtmiBi vasitlon of the dcvicoTbo pair of dr n ii.d -cotorB will t e referenced

to a switoh pooitiori

The dleplay face of th.* two-poottlon event Inilcoloro ohould ba
Pcrtongular vi.-h a dleplay sine 3o Joss-?han D, 187 by Go 2Cl Inob
ard iho lon^ nxla nourted horlzot1,nll,y„

Z'i&lt;-&lt; I-c^icch-nioal f:fatiJo t-d^cntorc tj/rinlly t i l l be localod above
the nfjnooiatcd r o r t r o l cwAtohoa^
Rleetrooechsnlcal position
in.'l.;eatr.rn vfii: be located with r.-'ference to aw.tcb positions1&lt;&amp;«9
(k)

D.-f.r Irvl.''".TO"*.
Eiectrononhana'al dJaf event i a d l ' a t o r s eay be uoed t o diaply cbacges
onalofrora to a speceiu device poni^on, "nieec indicators are used In
ttucoaatic
syct/ns and.are rot dii'ic-tly asaociated vdth a ev;xt.oh
opcrationa Th'y iT'xy t o Ufied for riystcm devlrr operational position
BxatU3'.
ir-d'. ;otor will tlispljiy the poaJ' J a of the i^sterj devic.from ore exlrc-iTie la the other wains a rotatablo biack pointer. Thorc
should be two black indices on a white baclfgrovnd to indicate the
extreraecs (?'ig-jre .1-8)'The display face of the electronfohanlcal di'.c e»cat ir.dl-:afcoro val
be c.lrcular bavin,;.- a dtsp'sy dioircter no lees than O. 625 Inches.
Tha Indices ffiy-ct be f j ted lisving a leegth of 0.. CIO and wldrh of
O- 093 inches. Tho winter Aengvh ahould be 0- M ',m ':,c
0 . 093 inch. 'Tlie pointer opncinc from an index uhould be no sreatf than 0 . 016 inch 'Fisiire .1—S)»

1-8.10

Alarn S y s t n
Any e&gt;:porJ.rcent that has any oper.-jr.ins characteristic which can pro­
duce a ti'se-critical liasardous c&lt;«iditioa requirin.g laasdiate corrective
action will ba desagned with an i.ntcrfaoe Ine-trunantataor output ccapatible vd-th the CH Master Aiazwi Systca.
(Additional crlteriii to be addnd)

1,8.11

VaJldation Tas^irq
Kooslandard or intoerated displays which coobine related Inforaatlcn
in a single display uni t , s h a l l be subjected t o huiraQ cngiv.eezliig
t e s t s to dcterraine the effect of the lategrEcion on pyst era perfojTBaDce.
Units which produce pcrfo:-nani'r equal to or batter thsn
single purpose indicators are flccsptable.

�_FHY.-JIOlonTCAl

i T,T|i^mCW3

i-O'L Cr«&gt;w Ont-Ta' Icn.-il ry.-:; . -.jij |,» Rygu^romcit./i
(See Table
i;

(1)

tor H.i'Vnrj)

Food
Pood quar.lity vill bp based &lt;&gt;a on Hndivjcual calorie intake of
3000K caloi -OB par tnon p«r d-if^ Cnc-ron dayo' food rrqoirca
179 cu. Irpbos nforcd volumo at 3.3 ponacs vfelslit.

2.

(i&gt;

Wnter
Water con)?-.itipc-or. .3 .10 folL-Jwai"
2,.6
ili-iiikf.Qjj aod food proparation
5.0 Ai/c:-.c dry,, ^aolcatioa and hygiene

3»

ConotnTil" '-.'par C'ln^ente
Each crew r.crbcr .-sr^ulrca a jjsw co-irtan'; i.ear garsent, (C^Q)
r.'cry two dnyn., .Nuober of milte &gt;-'iTU&gt;r^d
fnvr^cr of crow)
X ' o | 2 ) where r -n m i z s t o n deration i n days. Wliare p. . 3 an
odd nvcibp" 'ice the ne:ct afBal.ler p«»iri&gt;er,^
•13 cu. ft- and
pounda par auife,

Stored volua® ie

Pc^sopol HvffioPo
(To be added)
*5'

EVA Opcrat-orval ror^nnptiofi
a.
(h)

One PiSS UOH ar.-^dgo )»Qr wofgs; dlisena-lon
* IV*,
weight ^i-&gt;3 ^h}. Store 5 Lntera:illy,
rf3.T,?»ii-r «.•- i«
s t o r e d exte ?*nn l l y .

b»
(h)

The PUiS lie: 3 'K rechnrgerililo battery that nrist be recbarccci for 10 hours per uaago. Allow '1 ysagen per
battery- Dimcnrdon 3^* x VyA" x 6H", weight 3 ibs.,
store Jnternaliy,

c.

A full PISS oxygea c»iarge J.a
pounds.
tion Will average
pounds per hour,

Csyg-'O rtononpu-

d.
(1)

During iWA the standby D'A acfronaut wil?. cperete frcw th-^
sMlt loop of the tCS, requiring operation of the suit loop
fan at '52 watts ?ri* hoc • powar romrjoption!

e.

An additioDfll Constant Wnar Gament. (CV.^) iflll be included
for each €re\-.3-n on ^iVA :»r EVA afsndby duty. (ThJa is in
addition to the callout of pai^agraph 1-,2.5,1 (5^.

�C?.Zv! OL'IvRATTON.H C0tvSiJM.*i3I.E Kf-vUIIiSHENTS

Wir,
C-^wi'ioclv f'j

f

1

ECKMARi)

V&lt;» l'&gt;mo

Pcyer

Ci'.. Xn.

Watts

. . . .
Ar

i

I'er Msn Per Dcy
Is

Food

2a

Water

3o

Oaggen

2

Va

CoQstanl' V/^ar Garrao,;iL

(

2-3

r.'9

7.6

2-a

.

\

1

&gt;

(based on i ovoij? other day*)
4

(" )

Perooruel Iiyj^lene -• chowiji,3

5'

gu.t tooth ijieanera

M

C - )

deodorant t

OtCa
6~

&lt;
•^

Bo

Per Kan Per IT/A

•

1»

PLSS LIOH cartridge

2a

Battery
a,

after Uut ueage

&lt; - )
•

».

0

Constant Wear GnnaQnt
Oxygen "'per hour)

5e

fio

Ecohargfl a.fter Jisaga

bo fioplnce
3o

*

Coolicg Water

1.9"2

1J9
225

0..25
.1.83

Crnw Wor?fcc' Ppcf^nrnioB

1#

i

tJjitrented bloi.ogiral waatij eh.,11 not be allc-wed to bccoaa free
residue in spnco.

.J

�2,
(i)

yao'c Vaslo Production

Vol,
.1,

3

Orino

3^2

Feces

0-3

Water Vnpo.r

5-3

Carbon Dioxide

2.3

There are additioDsl oinor-itcos of hyM-^a -.fci-.l;® that can be
ignored frois a weight staadpoitit att total jn'odeetion for a
i-isan crew for 30 doye is cbovt 1,25 pouod:?- Iheoe ilffluo
i-ic.\ydo flavusr hairv naiJs,. n-j rrocrcani&amp;'Jn, aliiia cells,
a'"id mucins,
1,9-3

Radinti qp LIti;', rntlooo
(To bo added)

r":

�FiTJiT or-:-:\'AT:rGi:AL
2.-01
Thopo requirerannwj cl«?faaa i-);o.';e
«&gt;ud oanotrBlats that
•ffpcl the
m ..ri.oic'i op'^ratloiia of A/a',
2«02

gnrpog-i
T}ie priiicry r .vpoa" -f. i.o d. fice tlnr.^ rrqulr«:r&gt;flata r-ncl rr\t-7rla
6.lth«»r pocuJp.-ii- to A/J" -&gt;1' def?)icd by tho Anollo wlosion cor/ljuratlon tha.t five nc-'.-onary for nlaslon pli=,r.aiQg or l^ffect cquxpneat
doaign,
Tt 13 nn obrif.tivs to e&gt;aint«:«ji the saria functioeai in-flighffilsalon
p'-occiwresv t c-hnlquoa, and planning ti ar. oharactari ae the
atacdsrd Apollo i-i}.6a5c:&gt;

�2 - 1 cr;^rf ArsiGT&gt;7;:-:.vT.: ••

nun stati&lt;m&gt;T7

j

Crew Arr.'i.
It ic findelpo^ .jQ that aXl &lt;• ri^y wt-niboi-a \.lll recelvo a d'^grce of
trA.';nlni;
porro^ ts total later^hangcabi llty of crow dutJos on
en oa&lt;&gt;r;tnry hcoiis, 'fhs onlsr of priori iy of crow ntiliaotiott in:
a*

^kliatonarJCc of flight eafo^y

h*

Condvict of hasio

c.

Exploi-arion of natural phonoaeoa

d«

S;;hedulod pi?c:sureaents oBd eboervatioBe of natural pehnoneaa

e.

Repair. •^ali.braUoo and codifloation of olssJon-epcclflo
cqu-lpcient..

oporations

For the p-.r^cacn of rrov s'e.U^T. salei':tlou„ tvaicing plans, arid
nora?al oloB*.en planning, the following ground rul9.-5 ehall apply:
a»

• "^c eoomnd asiron^ut viil nflrrFo'ti all major spacacraft taar.'iuvars froa the left haad poaiiloa of cither the CM or
LS-lj He will also be the bacioip navigalor on the CM.
responsible for Q}\ naYlgatler. a-^d cperailcTi of
the CH Iccluding docking khea the XifJl io sinarated.
E-n'recr -• Is pr5.raarily re.'iponslhl? for all experloent
act-irltieo pins backnp operation and rarigatioa of the LEH,
Aaoi (Tr"fnt l^'-iorlttes - The follo'dnc tab i o lioi B acslgnaeat
priorities for the rorlo-.in crew meai'ei's. For purpoees of
mission plaanlng no noroul oasLgacfflento will bo oatie where the
crew n^tnher .Is listed as type 'in In t-hr va&lt;" of CK 'v^,. ,»&gt;;•»
pcrlceni-s the ccr-snnder I3 lifted as bdh typo j5 and
- *ypo &gt;
for repel (.••.!ve axpariB cnfcs or 'hoso otnou^ly requiring all
or«u cecibsr.s such as most bio-oed» r.od type ^ for highly speoisl'
typo of experluieata ewh as a 'clescciw prigrara,
,

Crrw
Hersber
CoaaiaTider

lani-'ch 1
CM or OK Dochcd to VO'. or
J
iXri
&amp;
I
Experintn*- Carrier Operatioi'B
J
Orerniic^e
Recovery i^larc 'ivers "^Javi'^Vica' h;^erire^t6»"^'.accu» erb liavT'
t
J i t
1
i 1
1
j
1
•i

Navigator

2

1

2

1

2

Syecen Efegr.

3

1

^

h

1

'
2

c

'

1 2
Q

-

�priisc fi-r'.poti8; bJ li ty

a-ileP

i=&gt;iU tmjjiina and capabiUty

a-

SocoQdery F.ecpoPclblll»-y - fjill tralulns

5&gt;

Operating CepaoiLlty

-• S'jftl.c-venc. vr-aiuta^ to dfCQnabratf;
capability o£ Bor.iial oporation

Boorgency Capobil!.^

- Tj»do'2';riaQVioi&gt; aad Xlaitcd praetice-

Duty StnnlonB
(To ba added)

C

«

r-apabiUty

�6,

AL\ri&gt;f zh bo*.' 'r between hVA'a fo;' &lt;Tur-h crevmaii,

7«

Maxur.,i!a
hours c.

o'Jtslds Hno for owo .^A operation Is thr^e

8-. Provlslosa w 31 be sisde to penult Ev'A d»4ring darkBeHa,,
2.2&lt;.5

t»nd

'a'e^Con.ytrainfcs

Jiard s'j-'.; 3!A oo ."urcr ourfe-ce vl H be 'Limltec to aix contlsuous
hours per daj.,
(This reiju-.r-;r a .^'ISS char^ge)

;.:&gt;r

�n i l

t h r ' f c .'ir-t r.-tri.;i ; •
l i f y r.:

An

y'or

• ;

iVA

?'!-

• i •

r

i

v.-&gt;(111 j : j ;

;-r' v.-th

ti*

.i-f

t h e atar'jb.^-

•••

';,

kjjuo**"

&gt;N'

cosimunitfatiena

.».J

.linllons of

. r virau

iticinr*

j,"3ivT«
rhe

nur &gt;

f;ht L\A

£.11 fliK?:*.

ci« '-rev

tjtlitl :5stl«:«3UL

i y efaal".

..ivifr or « ' c h l c l i » .

iOi bcv

'-a •.in&gt;l,o.or/

;&gt;• r ; . . e . - r , • ;

^' -ndby

T/J: nnd

rrv

• •
. . n - . - n v v o i , ' ? • t . . .i o r i

fi'.u

blinij epotp are
the

&gt;

"

ii't

be oroHab''

^•inH

.11'

i - f l , , mo

lo

be'WttaR

w1 'J. hnvs

TnlroaanJ
entetua
vthiclea

tvo-wey

h-y

v o i r e r o v e - - , •'

'•

.-rc-"

^j-atrcysnr'

jon:

'.n roqutrcd e c

lollowst

3-

AIJ

C i f! b u r n ; ;

bo

Once p,&gt;- oj'h'.'

ni' v.,I

lavr

" ban .J-hou.v inioi ' a'l6&gt;

Deorblfc

T/Mt

voice, radar;

i e required aa

a*

Xaoucii,.

t&gt;«

Major Si'S burr^^
t o •iRci

Cf

Aoy

cn : • • . .rin;j c - ' v a r - t j e

f o l ':••••

i"oLT.ir»wi

oijj3if:tri,nt

n

it-nft ctnl mJK

'

atH'u'orial •
cos.plf'tloit
Jtars'j'jvor'

i»airo two

;»f b j m

(i5X«'ej;».if.a

roOwOi:'- p r i o r
Jg doorb?.t

sijneitwc-r)

�G:--'-: r-i.

ON Er.'snr-jii' Ort:..ArMi&lt;s
}

1,

llvtl-r.- 'n I.! j U.r.itlon of the cr&lt;-"v lor n-dumjancy TPtiootcrlng tiod r?i.il»irp.
stotJo coi-rro'.ion.T/otor-tiono ol «&gt;;perJrt:a*«G viil tc sjp««d»

?.

Gxpcrijn.^n'; (*atn oet-up, pr«- or i*03t«« nJjbrarion asi ooRratlon Mill bp
0'n-bo!*i\i rcjitrollcd sad will &amp;ot roqu-xe ory groind upllnit euoporh
sapabl\j. Ci-spo

3-

Tao
rcrrd , dunp or ."oGufi p reqii
wiV. be h crsM roBponeibili'y
aod will not requiro c.ny ground upliiJ: controls

4c

It ie clsr lr-;blc not to hare
"• PoUviiien oi'rtng major Jliglit
ffipneu 'ero — iaunch- tra'isiLatinn and iloi
, 'sa^oi* Sj^^S burns, deotbit,
lun*r '-.adinij md aooenc^ .md rc--onti:'
If roqu- rc.d., il will not.
utili:;.' moro tlian or&gt;e cx-nw m/t.bcr pef'ornliig Troi^i lis rtf^xhr duty
otat jo.i.

5,

Ibcpor-;:,! &gt;;it .int.lri»lc8 xfil'. be co'rplo--i at Jr-ast togUt hours prior to
dso.'bit ond ao notrd in a'jotion ?..

•

�2,5

riTOfis T-T-'B T.if?2-,5-i

Gefe'-al "»ro-;ad Puiilfrg
Tho question of u prcpe.r worc/re^t dniy r y d e in b
cpinloitat.rd
variable.,
A fjj&gt;aL ocovox- will not maalt x.\ a.L'. probablbty until
after ccvaral .long period Arollo UlgSits have bees r.osipleUd.
In th
oioartlr.fi, a re.-jsonable rye l.e rrast be nelf.-ctad to p.^nnit inUi^ion
analysis of celfvrtcd erperlR^nt granp.ngs- TIds ejr J.r will be used to
anuljzo the bnslr arceptai'"! vt ty .of vrrious ex-jerimer.t groupings with
tho ucderstijiidius tlmt whore i t beoocxja a .litn ! lug factor, a specif --r
aoalysir. of altoraaSo GOlutlo«i3 will be madd- The cyclo eelected
t
based on the foilowing geDcral pre^'soss

4

1«

One rreura.-iii -.iill always be awake rjid in rtiBrge of roiGoion
lai:r/.;rity, i„e.M v.'stch duty.

2«

The woi-iyrest cyc.le will be orUnted to itnlutain a nornal
Uving i-coitine phased to coSn;idc with thu eastern U.S.
t.imc zone,

3»

i:,arh astronaut ul.ll have one sl?ep period of approximatej,y
serec houro augjneated, wlien p;soltlft( by &gt;• rap of not moro than
one hour..

h..

Persem?l Triaha - cr.tirg hygLsne, exei-t-iae v/iil not be rigidly
sch-duL'^dt and fo.r olsc.U'r p.&gt;j-»nl;.'g p»'rpo.«.es ii^e allocatiODS
for 'Ae.fe tasks will be ts^de by duty poriol.

5.

Koutice
micG'oa
and for
will be

1
^

.

6.

ml.':.3ica houflelc^ejiing :?.sks - stot .a checkc, LiOH changcsc
log raa:lr.t.enaj)or,
will ?!ot b€ rigidly rchodulsd,
mis«non plrfoning f'urpor.os lima al'.c&lt;atlonB for these ta. . •
rsiy-c i by duty perJ.id-

For prellBlaaiy AAP misft'on aiulysis i t wall ba asnu'^cd tSxat
elgbl C8) hours p*&gt;r day per
or o tot-.-l of ?i» a-r.bourj» per
day in aeailable for experitpeu actfvity.

2 * 5 S t a n d a r d ".U'rnjeft Cr-uw Duty Cycle -ind Ttnig Avtr-ilaliLe
la

Three^iwn operation with C.S o - GH docked &lt;6 other vehicle.

•20

24

D8

'v/T«--h

Glean
katch
Ocea

1
1 V.'ei r.h

1
Oncn
1 ;,'al:&lt;h

Sleip
i

Si

e

.12

1,6-

1

;

Wa!;ch

1
Or
.Iv'atvh

•All tinea ere Eastern Standard Tines and the s t a r t of f i r s t d e e p period may be
established for any given niseion f?*on i600 t o 20C0.

.

�^' Crev Tlac

for gHtKiriT-ont Cirjoi-attooo

(See sections

and 1»3»5 iof derivation of tioec)

;jiii;;i&gt;cr of Crev
Avpi.loble

jSpcn Tin ?

3

a

UikO « ikskO

2

8

?:X0 - 8:'fO

1

8

2:^-0

f nuiiours Avali&amp;ble
.for Z^poclmfoto

2&gt;.:30 - 2S:00 (hrs.)
2*

Thrc-'ngn Operation • one In (2M« TKO in uraocl-.gd II5H
a&gt;

Pvtj Cycle

8

T^na:
Doy/Niglit

(x) XXX

XXX

XXX

LE« n

XXX

Tx\

:oa

i

U3i HZ

'••/atrh

CM

Ik
rxx

18

16

xxx

xxx

20
XXX

XXX

&gt;

i

1

V/p.tch na?' »&gt;p#vn DUvv

Watc'i end On'-r, l'u«y

This duty cyolc ia based «a the folioving araolsoa:
•

1) Kln-itaizlDj the tiipo aH.! three creii' 'fiC-'jero are asleep,
simiiltaiseously. Ta tJ-.ls crisc- It le only for about
2 boura since ibc lac: ho»r of tbif sloop period la
actually invdlvcc In personnel hy&amp;iene and eating.
2) Kininieirg the niTJibcr of day u&lt;-rlcdc »'jdc un.-ivnlLih)*for opers&gt;::ions dc? to the LB4 rrsy bei-ug asleop. In
this cas" only ore even day psrio'^ is lost.
3) This cycle Is based ai a 2-hour oibib- period for gro;utd
scheduling purposes. Rjc actual cycle should be adjMsved
to the tru-» orbit period tha*. vi.!! be closer to 1,9 hours
for 'lO-tsile and 2.1 hi»urs for S-nile l»nor orbitn. 'PhiH
will result Ir. ;u.-nor variations to the tine allotraeats
available.

2.5.5

Zk

Vatfh end Cofai D'*l v
Cleeo

Sloen

12

3U

Watch Duty Period
2.5.3'1 Three lLm Operation vith 0" or CM JJoc"ifcd^co_0^ior V shlc le
One crowr:aa vlU. be awake and oa vatch duty osslgcment at al':
times. Durin-j these porlcda he v,lll be rsspensibir for the
EMintentince of spacf'Crafo syGccr.S; roxauuicatioue. position
and flight records or logs, and geaci-al operational actli'iti-

—1
f
I

�Ta CHPo of rnei-fjcncy ?•© -illL f fcrt
-wpilrle CowmadariEach cjcw (r'.'ti'.»er wt II v-'or^i two four-hour wa^ch duty aasSgnaicPta per d.ty,
•&gt;• cdt3tpl,y i'oliov.ng tbn sl«ep cycl#
cod tiiQ ,'n':;';d.UteTy n.-ccosin,'^ t?i3 olifop cycla^ During each
four-hoor vfTfi'b the roliotjojj aclirit.'.f.p 'jill ba perforseds
1.

SJxteca (i6) n'cut.oq cut of every hour will he upcd for
vehicle :sor ;.torJ
loi: •V2"*ntoaanc.».
Q.

Stfl-up cbe-^k of ZfG hovvly (6 win.) recharge batter.'
ae required.

b.

Statue ch-^rk of ECS hourly (1 mln.).

e.

Vo«ce oontnct vitt MSfS every 2 houru or once per
orbit (5 atn.).

d.

Pi)r,^e fuel ct lle - al.i.ernate 3^ ard ©2 purgea every
5o5 hor.re

(j.2

nie.),
$

e.

Si^-SCS eteluc check prsfcrftbi/ ulthln T/h range of
HSFh every b houti' (3 mio.).

f. Status check-of SES evsiy ^ haws (2 tnlo.).
g.

nritery check evsiy 7 hcurs (1 Bin.).

h.

S ii'^s check of CK-BCS in unpreseurLzed state every
'2 Isoiu's (I ntn.)

I,

Alternate replacing the CK Id5H filter eloasata ever
12 hoMrs (5 ain,).

J,

Staiun chock of ryro batteri.es every

k*

Data aoBip to 11577 oa eocft
(2 nxii- rj-aw tloci.

Zh

hours (1 oia

na

2.

Twcrty-i'l.t i
.otn' teo fo,i. i-anco of poaiticm
logs and bneir is'sc-icJ. rccrric,
; i-iboh crevoan wii.
be expected to Raintsin cifficlert eppcecrair. pasdtioo
ortenraf.-'on to be able to in\t.l«t! «d&gt;o'-t pj-o-rlures at
aoy tlae.,

3"

Twenty (20) aisiites for eating (gancrally enacka)
during each wstob^ llils is ao arerage valiio that will
be wprki'd on nn "as «*^'ai-Lable" baaio ly the crsu.
Fifteen (15) MJ JI - tec .or exei'clse. This provides oni&gt;half hour of cxerrlce during watch doty wliich will be
added to one-half hour additional duriitg the open d»ity
period. Tills
• I cc- ^-orlced on e.n "ae available" basi-e
by the crew,flo
exert iso will be perfomed oa the da;,
that a crevsan EKhea an £t;tra Vehicalsr operaiioa.

«

�5.

6.

Tv/s»Dtj &lt; 2 0 ) ffllPi:'.-op

J*"&gt;r

a i ' o i a p i ? v n l u e t o frs
t h e ttSt.roiuiuJ
,

in^d c;i nu "hu

^bchty

jKir \ M l c h

^ 8 o i o 1 n a t n.7

»*xp:!rioi''ni.nl
the rptPro?-y

hysrt«nt&gt;.

TbAs i n an

rfquiiod" baale by

: o u v a l l o b l o foT- 3 e r o n d o . r y

'ilicnc fliouifl prsmarlly f a l l into
of nanlfujuf; ii; b&lt;o-iied experiments or

i f l l t - i a t j i i j ; an&lt;J/o)* a e j . &gt;;or:n.'* ' • o c k j . U c o n t r o i l o c l e x p o r t . ciPAte,.

Gcnpp.all;-

it-e :n'j -o t h a n ; 5 m.l.nntec

e o n t l r i i c ^ ' M con-^ r-i r a .

o'-« .'.i

mental du-,..«o should l e
c^a^•c!-•a.
DurJivt
frc.r: the eonKr-odi-r's

f.

or.'.-

ported on oxperl**

A' : c d i t i e d

f o r the vatr^h d u ^

: h e i f a t c h d&gt;i : y e r e w / ; s B w i l l o p e r a t e
'IJa)

' •

7»

Thin

c n v r ; j e'v^r&lt;&gt;D

(

•&gt;.&gt;

tjr'- t o a o n a e p i ^ n e d p e r w i t c h

\rx

i ; geeevolly ) o
o r additional e::jjei-ltioPt
2.50»2

:-or rovljiatAonnl fjjcea

T h r c - l i a e O p « i r a t ^ o •• o n r cian
I4

i a Cll,

iwo DCD

In Lat

'4'alrh Dfof Op3 l/ot in CM
a»

The ciagl? iituj i i
Add'.n: onally,
of

b,

t h e CI-! v i i l p a r f o T i n n l . l t h e f u c c t - i &lt;

in ntti ionc

cal.icd ou'.

2..50-!. CD and 2,5.3.1 (2),

h e w i l l c h e c k i i w i t h t h o I S i o n a niJji: r v ?

ouce per hour ( 1 ci5.n.)»

Tbr ouo-h^l.f

O J ) &gt;ioi:r •• i r i n s i i R t p l y p r i o r t o a n d lencirdi.? "c't

foUovrtr.g tbo olr'-p poi-iod wiJl t o utfliaed to
aco'icrilated

s.
•
d.

ooctionn .?»5.3ol

&lt; .\) and 2.5»3'&gt;l (2)

accoapLiRhod due

'O '?e,.nl«flp period.

that ware not

T h o s e prJ.iT'Erj- vo'Sch f u a c t i o n e w i l l a r e r a g e a b o u t

Th.c

r&lt;'.v&lt;iAain[; c o t . t r i t j o a

eectioii

notel In sactljuo 2-5-3.1

v m I I h-i l i s t e d u n d e r O p o n D u t y

2x3'^*

^ a t c h ^ Pti'-.; 0 3 o f ':Vo n-;n

1/ '.ig^

*•

'-very

C

) n i n u t e o on*

of

hour Hill, be iiard for

vehlolo aonltoriri^ and salntorancei

^

chec): r,f

ppg hourly

(6

sin

),

batteTdco, an roqutrsd, if capcbllity
t.

I. .

^fO

cinutoo per hour.

Ihrc'-ij;!! 2 . 5 "&gt; 1

..."

pe.rfoi-3 t '

and Bainter-fineo functions of

recharge
e*ists,

»

O

2)
5)

S t i t u i c&gt;*eck

'f

0:^5 h o u r l y ( I t a i o . ) ,

V o i c e c o n t a c t w i t l i CK a o i a - l n u a o f c n c c h c u r l ?
O fflin.)
Voice centaol

with

y.STii

per oriTit (5 niji,).

every

two hours o r onct

�5^

i'

j

Og
6)
2-.5.'*

'-f.abl'i - ait.fr-nnlB Hg

.

(12 n^C,),

rep.\fl-'n ..f'M I. 01: niter elflttonto evory
'5 »jn^).

ho'irs

Open t&gt;L;ty Pt rir^r
2 . 5 . 4 T h r e r &gt; ! : » a O r - - i v r ^ j a n W t U i T M r.•• C M Poe'tcd no tm
Durlnr ari.y S'uUoiir perlcS
K V H will bAve O'A© contlruoar
oaf'T duly Il^rlod. D;:;-jrr.* thio period cortjjin houe'?ke3pir,7 r.:'^
nuai te p.;f i\-.r-scd hut the ren-eind^r of t';tl5c" ie tan&gt; lible for
cr.'r-. r.t acti'/ltj «»rd rc-quJrcd
Pav^fjatlon.'il fAxca or .9pTf;aor.v.ft. jaiineivaro. Tho foliowing
act:'.Ham ore iurludti jurieg thi.i psrlod:
1.

"fciko ^.'ip (i hour), rhic ot-a bo eoho-Julyd by tho crew o
"as cvoUabic" baoio
r.nji be eUsipatod oi.crxionally

2.
3»

OOP hot Baol (I 5our;. 'fbio le aohedu.lcd for one }&gt;• v
pli^'W cotae tvae fir rolavation or recreation.
oxorriS'"; fox* I/? hosW' I'.xie vfou.ld riortnftlly bo
broken Into tbra" 'n- C'-O) Hiaout-e parl.cic nnd cr.a be
niuiJp.-xcoi cep jiona lly. J'O exercise in i t-nuirfd on vba
day a ore-.msin piirforu? rn cxtrn rehicular operation#
Perform waste e.llmlrntioa and body oloooins (1 hour)#

5c
'

k

2c5»^t.2

'ITjo rcBiining tlfle i s avaUrsble for other activities
to. o hours) .
a.

Flight optmtloa; - r-oe section.3.0 for required fit;!.'
openitloa f»inctl&gt;33-

b.

Bcfpriaent

Three-Man 0:&gt;&lt;-ratlon - on r In

- to be dete/KinfJ»
two in tBI.

(To be added)#
2»5e5

Sleop Period
2«5-&gt;5«-l

Three-»Man Oppratloa V.i1h TH or CH Docked •*&lt;&gt; L3i
The sleep p«rl-od for escn nen will be eif;ht (8) hours. It
anticipated that about eu^cn (?) bouro of this lice will be
o f f e c t l v c e.'.n";-. Tt • r» -.-fria^ t l c e w i l l b-? ntlV;.'':.! t c p r a pait tin £.l^&gt;p
ca risixj, cl-v-ninr cp clxe
ar.al1on, parf.vrraing pcrsuciicl irrglone, and earing b.ranktasl ,
T5ic iQ'Uviduals eigh.rh hour of deep will bo in the fora of a
nap during the opea «!uty period, (Sao 1,5.5.1.1),

/ O 2,

�J

- One in CH. T^ Q
Th- flc-p IVnr.i fry.' eacfc ooc uiU be 6c-7fn (7) hour3, n •
a n t i c l r . » t ' : d tf., -. M?oct si:- ("S) heuro of t h i s t l a e i f i l l b e
efro-rtiv.?
Tljp roirinijis tiino rfili he uttliiod to pr.-.
paro t h e alu'p otj^tuo aoc. o n riftios, cloanlng up the oloep
BtatioQ. pevic-mJn^ F-eroci-nel K yfj I ousc. nncl sating brcakfosr.
Depe..&lt;jlng oil tl;s iength OJ' chis type vC operatiun a tuip of
ono to two h;. -rs dwratlot ehOKld bo o^;hc€tulod durJac tho opc^
poricd-

\v.

10^

�o^f:i?ATicNAL coNoTRAiNT.;
2&lt;6^1

Kii;src;«

c

Tjiipch O.-'c"n". Io;:« to Liftoff
1, Inunrh cuUoff time io IfjCO hours Iccal t^me b^&lt;-.PUoe of recovery
(a) rcqulrcQcntg..
2« Ho cxpcrjnent activity w^Xt r-s-iuire crcv tariicipatlon itore tfacJi
(b) 90 minutes, or loss than I nluite prior, tc .dftoff.
3» lixpnrlijient uotivit-lea during "fie coi'Dtdowj* are iimitRd to those
(b) that can bo perforned by the ayoteme ensinacr from his counh
pooltlon.

266'.2

Pone Vi'iT'ch and Sa-rth Crbit
1« J'roa Liftoff to confirmation of orbit experlraeat activity is
(b) u-ndruirablo.. It required, it should bo Itinitud to lha capabllliy
of the .vycitoaa on^lnocr from hLs couch poeition.
2B A ctntun check of all systems wil-l bo pei*foni'.ei after insertion,
(g) Aosume ^5 minutea with all
BoiabArs occupied except as oote&lt;'.
above,
3' Eftttcrj-ca will bo recharged after .tj-'oertiru, Hcniml span is
(a) 100 oln-'tes but crew loading :,a 2 nlautcs for jyeteca engineer,
4, There shall be a mloim'jra of o!ij orbit piicr to S--IVB/CSM
(a) tioparatlon.
5, The S-IVB G&amp;C and PCS shall b*? uaed for all aaJieuvers prior to
(c) S^r/B/CSM Eoparation.
I?iU fine alignment vill be required once per day for normal
&lt;c) epaccrraft raquirenents f20 ns.-mte),
7o IJTO alipanent requ'res hiving the '•X axis cj-.; i-•*'i- r?, '.1
(c) local horizontal^ pointed in -Ho direction of flight and aalntnliuvH
within + JO' of the plane of • le orbit. The
axis nict re-ajr. r
least yj'* above the local hor ioo,
8, During near earth orbit cperav.ioas navigational sl^tiago will i&gt;'
(b) token 00 loss than twice per day (3^ urinates per set of three
sightings).
9B Oribral navigational eightlnga require having the •••X axis in thn
(c) dlrectioa of flight anl the +;• axis n-var iocal vertical and pointed
toward earthB

2.6,3

Transluugr Tn.jectloa
1, The S-TV3 provides G?;C and thi^ust for the vraaslurar Icjsction.
(c) The -j-X cxls is for-i.-arc rnJ approxiPiatcly parallel to local horisoatalft The *-3 axis la down aad appro^J-o-etcly pajvillcl to Jocol
vortical.

�&amp;
2
&lt;b)
5.
(g)

battcrjca 20 niratea

Prejvrtmlioii
crev

tlrae

l l o down,

arlor to d « r b i t bum (20 siautoe)

for tranalumir icjcctic®

incbidee eyotsas

IHU c o n r o e a n d f i n e a L i g a a ' . n t

chcc'rr.

— ^2 mljiut-es iOTOiv . -

a l l crew acKboro»
2,oJt

Trpr-.npoc-lllon npd Docjfln^ 1,
(c)
2.
&lt;c)

The

i a tho active vohicle diirinj tmniposition and docking*

Tl}r S—IVB l a l a
The

f.-l'VB o c p n P s M o n

tranrpeoition noaeuver ol«rla with

within + JO" of

tho trajectory

pleucs

the

3*
(g)

r o l l i a order to s-.llgn

+X a x i s f o r w a r d a n d

*2. ^xla

frofT t h e S - J V B t h o CSM p o r f o m j a + 1 8 0 "
a --63°

'

tfaa a t t i t u d e IiaLd n o d e -

-Jp.

After eeparation

p'tch maneuver follovicd by

for docking,

Tioo for tranepoottlon anif decking including preparation,

jettison

o f SIA&lt;. a n d p e r f o n v a n c e o f b a r v l d o c k i n g p r o c e d u r e o i s 4 0 m i n u t e s
Inrolving a l l crcwucn.

4.
(g)
2-6«5

Time f o r S-IVB ceparation

including preparatoiy

procedures i s

5 minutes.

T r n n s l H c y . r Co.-5j^
1(c)
2»
(d)

Tno coast period iacluiofi o mariruQ of nine nrdcourse Rovigaticr .
c i g h t i n g a , f o u r THU a i i g n m o n t n a n d t h r o o d c i t n V c o r r e c t i o n s .
Passjye Hiermnl Control (ITC) io required during cooct
except a s Jnternipted by
i'TC t h e Cf-H
mte of

'

\ axis.

the

j'equircmonts of

y-Z phase l e pointed toward

This

Periods of

nor

ratio

ITC o j u r a t i o n e r e I t i l ^ - - ?
contlnucie

f o r a long a t t l t i - d e hold t i n e , t.hs

PTl*.

the 7 aud
••cf

The "nile-oi'''thUaE."

iratlo of

For ehort attitude hold tlnco (l';6e

roll to hold ic

than 15 minutes), tkf

i s 7 to 1«
Attttndff

Eold

5 oin*

Hequlrcd Roll Tine
55

15 laln.

X'.75 h o u r n

30 min.

2.5

3 hrs (esx.)
3.

i t s initial oi*lontation,

if s,pp:-oviBatoly ^20" about

must bo follovcd by 15 hc-sre of
i s that

the

rollLog cictioa ^-onbines with vehicle residual d r i f t

ra'-fto causing the X a r i a ro pi'^cees about

5 to lo

Duri.-.

tho tnm (•20") end a r o l

I t o 2*5 rovolvi Jons ]v?r hour I s coteMlshcd about

precession creating rocotiooe
Z cscs.

periods

itrfo 1 abo-^e.

hoars

15 hrs.

Tine period for navigBtiocal ei^^tiugs i s 36 Bin.

InyolTss one c m .

(g)

10^

�P®rio^&gt; Tor oid-courc? rcrr^^tion involvt&gt;« oil thx-fy crewmea,
includeo ri^noutfcr C/K to dooirM atUhide^ syatea en-up acd

(g)

checkout, firixij; of aj-uv.'&gt; for tillnpc, SPS firing, rci-ifl'-etiou
of doUa V cl'tnlapd (requ'rce contact vUh Wr-FtO^ poot ilrina
eyoteia checkn, 25 oUa.

j"

5

vg)

2.6 6

TXtno poriod for an TKU ocanfle oUgnriCit. £c:ji)onco is IL nlnutos,
6 min'itcs additiorjil for fine .lUEftmrnt, oad ? wlnutos for a finn
allgninont cneck.

lAxnur Or'olf Tn&gt;;"vtJ on
1.
(c)

2o
(g)

The X axis is

appro^rlnvjtoljr pn-allcl to

with -X forrfnrd.
Y cr Z axes.

th? limar local borizorr

'

Ho reotriction ia placed on the direction of •

TiiBO for lunar orbit inj&amp;cticn Jjiclndcc sy-^teoi chorlca.

lOT eoar,

ollgnaeatp IMU fine alignnant. manouver C/H to decirjA alignfflent^
eet-«p lOI navigation pamneters, ullage firing, SFC firing, poo-:
fire syetea checka - 1 hr. 5 oin.

2. 6^7

I.uner Orh: t

1.
Co)

Orbital aav5gr.~iorj.al. iiighcliign wil.l bo requ.ii^d durJ.og rbo first,
two orbits for orbit coaC: nnatlon..
CSM aititudc will fc?

with the

During thin period the general

cad +Z

-X

cxsa jwlateci below the

local horJronfcal plane and the X ax-ls will .'io wlth.iu 6'J® of tha
orbit p.i-.no;.

C
2,
(c)

A Blnlojum of thros cib'tal car

gotio-al s'.ghtlnge (iitiliaiiig IHO

alignment of 'lO a.-lni-tea) will he x*ca«.tred daily.

See itea

ebove for atl.ttUfic3%

3.

Proper ECS oporatioa in Invar &gt;&gt;rbtt la dejj.rndent upon the orien*

(d)

tioo of a plane which b.is'jcts

(c)

and which p^.rnlloi the X ttxia.

.he

CSK

withjn 25" of th:i swbpoir-r po^it

dxrertloa of

i.-.a-

rr .

Devl.a'-.ior froa thia require-

ortilts every two days.

IKIJ aligaiaoiit ."cccasita«ea pli-.eliig the
(c)

i.h.f.e plr.r.? a-;iet; rtmi-

&lt; the r.str.t at vMc!i t-.c

iise intersects the .lun.ar (rjrj".»&lt;-e).
Bent Is aIloj:;ed a n-uciM'.'ni of

+Z/'"f and -Z/+T quadranta

The edge of

vX ax.ia in the general

and wiiatcinirg it witnln

6o*

of the oihit

planelihe -fX axis susfc ^etEa^n at least 35® BJ»cve the IcK^al
hori-zontal.

5,
(g)

Tlae fox in;-tl-al rotry ici o LfJi-fiq'iaLiac CSM c:\d .lor?: prcpsure.;
roQove and etow CH preaeure aid thonsal fcatchear

puTforvi CM

eyotpm checks? diecoaaar t and blow probe and c-4*o.^e, cheek for
Lffl pressure equal!tat loo. op-ri LBl hatch,
tranafer unbiU.cnl

O

6.

&lt;s)

Time for initial

ro

trsnsfer tc

155'. - It. tiiin.

rh-rkc.it

activate and chocjcout •jo-oiunica-'

tlona, control aed v.-^tning sysven, power ayatca, SXiSj ARS,
fanB.^ transfer of PISS and other eei:..'.i:nca! to LEr!?

suit

transfer serond

oan, d-:^ploy landing g?ar, checkout propuliUon r^ystcae? coarss and
fine allgmjcnt of liEM TIPJ. set wp rarisation ia L£K, close up I~;

-- 2

hro, -17 .?5n.
jOfe

�2n6.8 lii'/nv Trrnnfor and Uindtug
lo Tho 1 hour pr.'.or to I£K e^^pnration frao tlin CM, all three CTv^
(«) cc-j;hor3 will be totally' occupied w.Ub
Ration nnd other
ispaceoraft xreparatory aetivitias,
Z . -Kroa lEM cop^ratron to ton-hdo-n, ao o.rperi.montQ will bo porforC' '
Ch) oithoT on-bcard LEM or CM,

•

3# "^he two LEN trrt'vnflQ will have "•erapi.ritfd a ulcep cycle no store thcc
&lt;b) 6 hours prior to start of litoar trr.anfpr.
2..6,9 Lio.ar Surface
1. After landlns,. prallol.nary LSM cecxirtng and checlrout tiote Is 15 eiu.

(g)

2.. Preparation tim? for initial Ivr-ar egress •• -^x^^llne .r&gt;rface,
(g) photograffti, review exploration plans ia light of actual conditions,
check out ond don suits and PLT-S equ^poent., check out cconunlos*
tions, get ocicntlflc oqulpmenl ready - 1 )jr,. 8 oin&lt;c)

Duoo lEH preosuro - 5 oin,

U, Erf.t Lai, get scientific equipaent and 3ow.»r to gro'ind, oliBb dc.'o
(g) loddcT to lunar surface, chock nobility cum iru"fnce coaditions
12 Din.
5. Conduct external inspection of LEW - 5 dn.
(r)
6. Erect and align lunar surface S-band dish aotonna - 20 Bin.
^b-)
7. Climb ladder, transfer equlpfflcit into LW, enter Lra • 2 sin,
(g) 50 sec,
S
8. Repressuzdso LE31 - l8 nin. 50 &lt;ee. (eirgie oysten)
(g)
1 Bin. 20 £«, (both'eyctcr.6)
9. No biological waste shall be disposed on the lunar sarfsce withou
(g) sterilization,
•

10, The LBi is designed so that it con bo left unoccupied with the
(g) cabin unpreaeurlzed on the lurar aorfnce. Etqic-rlment design
should conform, or posnlble eil'ects be properly defined*

#

11, Figure
shows tkf- c-xim* disteaeo for E/A froa the I£K
as a function of the duration cf the EI ertiwily, TlJo ig based
on the amount of oxyger. available to provida purging of ^he SI
ffJit in case of pressure stiit rcvitalizatlon syeteBi failure.

10-1

�2.6,10

T.i;inr
1

r:-.-?

ZVOU8

f-rc.-^jror:.-'. fo-^ J.^-^ach -

L t r -

I

=

xE.

2.
(b)

Tl-.ore uj.li be r.o exi&gt;9rici.iat activity dvwin? L5J1 iunor return,
doekir-s, ="d period throu..^ trausearth a.iiJftCfc:;.on..

JJ.
(g)

Tft't I.TI vfl be "enof.derni the neiive dni^kJn^ "ncaber on th®
roMiru fcr.irtzroua.

.9

2f6«l.l

Trencrifi'-tb T^jrcttoa
1.
(c)

2-

(c)
(c)

k,

(b)

C

5,
(g)
&gt;2i.6vl2

1-

FolloHiPg TI'U alignTBept the +:i lucla in dJ.r&lt;ictod approx^natoly
pnr.illel to rhe local bor-',zont;al prior to jr-Untiog transearth
in.ief.ticr .
Hocharge b:i&gt;-tQrir-3 20 oiontea prior to dooiblt burn • 20 ain.
Prcperat ion iinte for traeooanJi injectioa
3 hrso pr'or to engine ignltlo.

xrill

take approrltcatoJj

-gnd TH/SM $*n^3rn_t loa

98 Trnr'.oluner Coaut '2,6r5'*l)

2e
&lt;c)

Saoe as Tv;jnaluri.nr Coaat ''2.6.''-2)

5..
(c)

Tn addition to tho .-TC ratiulrc.sants of Iterei 2 aboTe, It ia
necoasary to provide pre- re'er.-;ry coolirg j!or the for,&lt;ard heat
3l!i9ld&gt; Tliio is acccaplifihcd by keeping the -X axis cumM
sun-.T-aT^J i/itn,ln ^o lioitg specified for PTf*.

4.
(a, b 8f c)

*

IflU allgr.r.er'j; io tJie aftnc as Innar orbit (2.6-7),

Trrrn'-trth Co&lt;^n

(b &amp; c)

(a

LSTH Jattlrcn orruro prior to
oll^^ncDt ejkI la acooupllahod
With tbf -X axis in the dircctLon of riJgbl. msd Uie *Z arts
pointed tovmrdo the liiv'nr f.urfvjc.

tt

No e.-nJoriccntnl or .•3peri,n.l ope-.-atlooil activity rcoulring crrw
attenticn e.-mll be echcJulcd during the final
hours of the
Ti'arcear'h Coast period dug to the cr.ltioality of «ct«blJ.shlng
a cafe on'-ry corridor, liiui-pueat etownge
bo rooplotGd
during this period.

5.
c)

For CM/EM e rnr^^-e.tioe tho »X s.tis is rotated 60-70® nbovo the
dlrectloo of flight and ti the trs.Jectory plane. The +Z axis
baa s 'zcii.-.iTs prnjcctlcr. ra
np-wr.rd l?c-^l Tartl'r.l.

6.
(a)

The zy^'"-- s-:-arE':i,:: a-i ;;re-sf:7y s.aiavTer r-j&gt;t ce r: ::a-ci
Its less thxn 5 clautas prior to reaeliiSr; ^O.CCO fee' entry
altitude.

i

ICS.

�7. ferforr iPS statu© clieck prior fo CH/SM c^pcratioo (6 mln.) and
.n) © Bain bus status checlt eftar separation nr.d prior to ro-eatrr
(5 nlQ,).
•
8. Check pyro br.ttcriss prior to C.V5M esparstlon (1 ailoO,
(a)
9« Disconnect fuot colla froo CM bnoses orlor to CH/5H aaparatioa
(o) (Icda.),
•
10. Porforra oTatuo check of ClVSCS tvo houro prior to CM/CM aeaaratlo .
(a) (1 Din.),
'
U, Preheat C^/RCS wigine vaivns 10-15 atnutes, to be corjplcte 10 ola'.tca
(n) prior to ri-I/JSi saparaticn-.

2.6 15

Rg'-ertry nrri Piecoy.^ry
1-

CM landing shall be planc^-d no earlier thsn one hour prior to

(A) Eunriae, or later than three bo'.'ra prior to ouacet*

2. The longitude of entry for both the CH and .Ti ojuat bo such that
(a) the GM doon not endanaer any lend raaaes.,
5* Sitry stares vlth the —X axis In the trajectory p32me aod rotatr-'
(c) appro::lnvite3y 26* earTh&gt;fard from local horizontal and vd-th the
*Z nsia pointed avay from earth.
A,
(fi)

E^orin'-dta or data roturned In the CH. mu^t eorvivo a aaxiBua
of two dayo aftor landing.

%

((A

�2.7

op.•^ATTO^?/.L
2 ^ 7 1 gns
1.
(a)

i n vattcr.,;
•'^.^.-•,?(».- J-.o

;&lt;.on." '. C?yr. - ra l"v«

Tne ndiator inifti; toapL&gt;^i-ntnrc r-ua^; ba i*A*3tr.ia:i r.bov® 75®F fo
prevont frcftriiia and b-jl^v
"F to prevoni bnlHua- 1'h«
- folL- ving .nr® operational ••ni?.^of-thuB'a" ron-itrolata. Where
expor. riai raquiremcata roquir-a rioUition .&gt;r these rules, &amp;
d^tai.V-i vhffirmal balnnoe onaljats ohoald ba ci-.ie.

•*

2.7,2

2®7»3

b(a)

The apa-'.-ecraft attltvde ahould not be .-'cr.Btralned In an
ir-crtlai or earth relftive orientation fc-r longer than
3 h-'-G ..

C,
(a)

Eleetrieal loads of loss tlias l68o»l65K3'vatto require periodic
oxpoctira of the radietor to tho sun to picvent freezing,
Routiaa Ovi-Tn tlon.?! Coaatrglnts

SPG prc.p ;llant O'lsi be rsintniiied clove 'tO®F, Alihongh no fixed
rule if poGjiiblo, attitude bo:d? grc^t-er t-uir 3 hours in curatior
without uoLrc incidence on the £»•! aft end should be avoided,
bhoro cxpcrlrtent cctlvitJes exrresd this tiue, ti theroal aaaljalr
should be conducted to check propellant tc«porr.tari?6,

PCS fSM) routine Opcrattooal roGgt;-g.intq
1,.
(a)

2»7«'f'

Tha radiator ourfoc'j'nliould not be ercporad to ao^ar radlatlc.
Incidenrro angles of
for mora thar 20 clautss por orbit
cn vhe n-emge to p.i-event boiling, Jln-:inuB expocurc of theo&lt;'
rnslao tor any one tine ifj one orbit,

Service Pre'M! J'l i c.:t Syin c-n
1.
(a)

C

a,
(a)

/'ny f pe quad of the ECS (SM) ihall not b® pclnted towards deep
cpace for prrlode exceeding 6* "jO hours.

S—IVB Po^itj.re ^'eratipoul^CquKV-raiuj-g
i,
(a)

'Hie S^TVB propellmt tar.k« oatv be veutod parittdlcally, probably
about evnry 'i boors on aa avenig®.

2(a)

The S-1V3 ofabie pJatfora in tha lb has a ::».dd!.e gimbnl restrlfttion of +45® about the X^dxis vehicle yaw at luunch, roll la.
flight.

2.7.5 Ouidence end Jfevigatioo Syntem RovHoe Opftiational Con^t.'rslnta
1.
(a)

O

The S-lb'S stable platform in ii.e 10 has a slddie glsfiai
rectrlctiVon of ^5® about the X-ex&lt;a vehicle ji-w at lauochs
roll in flight,*'

�2 8

Rr,^UIRg!ir.'iTg
2.8.1
1. SPS propolLs^t chctll b* kiiatainod above lift c^rnbutloa
(a) Inatabl'Llt/ iovoi during any d&lt;orbit ironeu^rr,
(OX

Yoot

Iba.).

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                    <text>NASA Contractor Report 3942

Human Performance Issues Arising
From Manned Space Station Missions

William K. Douglas

CONTRACT NAS2-11725
OCTOBER 1986

fVJASA

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NASA Contractor Report 3942

Human Performance Issues Arising
From Manned Space Station Missions

William K. Douglas

McDonnell Douglas Astronautics Company
Huntington Beach, California

Prepared for
Ames Research Center
under Contract NAS2-11723

fUASA

National Aeronautics
and Space Administration

Scientific and Technical
Information Branch
1986

��CONTENTS

SUMMARY
INTRODUCTION
METHOD
MECHANICS
SAFEGUARDING CONFIDENTIALITY
GENERAL FINDINGS
ANSWERS TO PREPARED QUESTIONS
SPONTANEOUS COMMENTS
APPENDIX A
APPENDIX B

��SUMMARY
Ten former NASA astronauts were Interviewed t o provide Information f o r use
In planning f u t u r e space f l i g h t missions.

Although no s t a t i s t i c a l analysis of

t h e material was performed, t h e responses do provide Insight Into numerous
aspects of space f l i g h t . Including psychological aspects, t r a i n i n g , command
s t r u c t u r e , health and comfort, physical aspects, and many o t h e r s .

The

responses by t h e Astronauts t o t h e questions a r e presented together with
coRTients by t h e researcher, himself a physician with long experience with the
space program.

Additionally, spontaneous matters t h a t came up 1n t h e

questioning periods a r e reported upon together with t h e r e s e a r c h e r ' s comments
on t h e s e a s w e l l .

The r e s u l t s , which maintain the s t r i c t c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y of

the Individual respondents, contribute t o t h e basic Information required by
those planning f u t u r e missions In space.
INTRODUCTION
This I s a report of information obtained during t h e course of separate
Interviews with ten former NASA astronauts t h a t took place during t h e f i r s t
half of 1984.

The purpose of t h e Interviews was t o e l i c i t Information t h a t

had not been previously reported and t h a t might open leads f o r f r u i t f u l
research endeavors applicable t o the United S t a t e s Space Station program.
There a r e many reasons why t h i s Information might not have been reported.
I t might have been forgotten during the Astronaut's p o s t - f l i g h t debriefing, o r
he might not have f e l t t h a t i t was Important a t t h a t time.

There may have

been personal reasons why he did not care t o mention some Items.

Some

material may have developed in h i s mind as a r e s u l t of r e f l e c t i o n s since h i s
f l i g h t and of h i s observations of f l i g h t a c t i v i t y t h a t have occurred since h i s
own mission.
Every e f f o r t has been made t o safeguard t h e c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y of t h e
inquiry, a s described in t h e section on c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y .

1

�METHOD
A 11st of fifty-one questions (Appendix A) was formulated by the
Investigator.

Published documents, discussions with NASA personnel, and the

Investigator's own personal knowledge of space f l i g h t human factors entered
Into the formulation of the questions.

Some changes were made In the l i s t of

questions as Insights were gained during the course of the Interviews.
The original thought was that each subject would be asked each question on
the l i s t , but I t soon became apparent that t h i s approach would not be the best
way t o proceed.

Some of the questions clearly referred t o specific programs.

Project ApoUo for example, and would be of l i t t l e use in Interviewing a
person whose experience was restricted t o an e a r l i e r program.

Further, I t was

seen that s t r i c t adherence t o the l i s t of questions would result In s t i l t e d ,
stereotyped replies - the questions became boring rather than stimulating.
After the f i r s t two o r three Interviews, I t was decided t o use the questions
only t o stimulate discussion.

Although some questions were given t o a l l ten

contacts, some were only given t o one or two. with each question being
presented t o an average of 6.2 contacts.

This I s somewhat misleading because

In certain Instances questions would stimulate answers t o l a t e r questions, and
the responses were combined.

(See Question 4)

Ames Research Center provided the Investigator with a l e t t e r of
Introduction (Appendix B), which described the program and I t s goals, and
which reviewed the background of the Investigator. The l e t t e r gave absolute
assurance that the Information given would be safeguarded In such a manner
that no statement could be attributed e i t h e r t o an Individual o r t o his
specific f l i g h t .
The contacts were each paid a consultant's fee of $50.00 per hour.
I t was originally Intended for Mr. Donald K. Slayton t o be present a t each
Interview so as t o take advantage of his background, training, and knowledge
of manned space f l i g h t operations.

I t proved nearly Impossible t o coordinate

the schedules of the Investigator, of Mr. Slayton, and of the contacts.

2

�without delaying the progress of the project to an unacceptable degree; Hr.
Slayton, therefore, was present during only two of the interviews.
The first interviews were with people known personally to the investigator
or to Hr. Slayton (or both).

These individuals made suggestions for

subsequent interviews.
MECHANICS
The contacts were first called by telephone and the purpose of the study
was explained to them.

If they consented to being interviewed (and some

declined because of their busy schedules), an appointment was made, and a copy
of the letter of introduction was mailed to them in sufficient time to allow
them to review it before the interview.
Because of the preconceived opinion of the investigator that the presence
of a tape recorder would be inhibitory to the free flow of information, the
original plan specifically excluded the taping of the interviews.

When the

first individual was contacted, and when it was explained to him that a tape
recorder would not be used, he said he felt the taking of handwritten notes
would be distracting to him.
interview.

He then asked that a recorder be used in his

When subsequent contacts were made, each person was given his

option of using a tape recorder or not.
reluctance to being taped.

None expressed even the slightest

One even asked for a copy of the tape for his

children.
In all cases the investigator traveled to the community where the contact
lived.

The interviews took place in the contact's office on three occasions,

in his home on three occasions, and in the investigator's hotel room on four
occasions.
The environment was very informal.
used only to stimulate discussion.
question was selected and asked.

As stated earlier, the questions were

When the conversation lagged, another
This usually resulted in a great deal more

spontaneous conversation.

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�SAFEGUARDING CONFIDENTIALITY

Each contact was assured at the time of the initial telephone conversation
that anything he said would not be traceable to him or to his flight.

The

letter of Introduction contained these same assurances, and they were repeated
in the investigator's letter that forwarded the NASA letter of Introduction.
Finally, the subject was given the same assurances orally at the time of the
Interview.

It was apparent that most of them appreciated the assurances of

confidentiality and were probably more open In their discussions as a result
of those assurances.
After each Interview the tapes (12 In all) were brought back to the
Investigator's residence, where they have remained stored In a safe location.
They are identified only with a numerical code number.
does not appear on the cassette label.
material verbatim In most Instances.

The contact's name

The Investigator transcribed the
Paraphrasing was rarely used and then

only when It became necessary to clarify syntax that was peculiar to the oral
Interview situation.

There are a few portions of the tape that have not been

transcribed because they referred to the personal social relationships of the
contact and the Investigator.
The Investigator transcribed a11 the recorded material on an Apple He
personal computer In his home, using the Apple Writer II word processing
program.

No secretarial assistance was used In either transcribing the taped

material or In the preparation of this report.
tapes of these Interviews.

No other person has heard the

To facilitate preparation of this report, the

transcribed Interviews were printed on 104 single-spaced sheets.
than the Investigator has seen these typed pages.

No one other

When not In use. they are

kept In a combination-locked safe In the Investigator's office.
Each transcription Is saved on a magnetic disc, and duplicate discs have
been made and stored separately.

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�GENERAL FINDINGS
The subjects were, without exception, extremely cooperative.
towards the investigator or the project was expressed.

No animosity

The investigator could

detect no evidence of conscious withholding of information.
A broad range of experienced people were interviewed, including persons
who had flown on all NASA programs, with the exception of the Space Shuttle.
Interviews were conducted with crew members from Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, and
Stcylab.

The Apollo contacts included men who had participated in the

Earth-orbiting phase of the project, and in the lunar landing phase.

One of

these latter contacts landed on the moon and another was a Command Module
Pilot who remained in lunar orbit alone during a lunar landing mission.
No meaningful statistical evaluation can be made for several reasons:
1.

The list of questions was not rigidly adhered to.

All subjects were

not asked all questions.
2.

Answers to questions were subjective in nature.

3.

Many spontaneous questions generated by the subject's comments evolved

on the spot.
interviews.

Some of these were not really applicable to subsequent
On the other hand, some of these spontaneously generated

questions were asked at subsequent interviews, but no effort was made to
contact earlier subjects to ask them to answer the newly generated questions.
4.

Only ten people were interviewed.

In this report the questions will be stated, and in cases where the
question was presented to several individuals, an evaluation of the replies
will be attempted.
Spontaneous statements of importance and answers to spontaneously
generated questions are included at the end of the answers to the list of
fifty-one questions.
NOTE:

After the answers to each question, there is a section labeled

"COMMENTS'.

This section contains the investigator's own subjective remarks

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�and evaluation of the statements made by the contacts.

A COMMENTS section

w111 be found after each spontaneous comnent as well as after the answers to
the prepared questions.
ANSWERS TO PREPARED QUESTIONS
1.

Opinion of the Crew Health Stabilization Program.
Surprisingly, only 2 of 9 who were asked this question were opposed to the

program.

All stated either spontaneously (5) or upon questioning (2) that

they thought It was helpful In keeping the crews Insulated from annoying
contacts.
•1 thought 1t was kind of fun.

It kept the world away from us."

•It allows the crews to concentrate on what It Is they have to think
about.
flight.

They are not being pulled In a number of directions just before the
It allows them to focus on the task and the training ahead."

CoiMents;

Inasmuch as the Crew Health Stabilization Program is no longer

practiced with as much rigidity as It was In the early Apollo flights, 1t
might be wise to develop some policy for providing a similar degree of privacy
and seclusion for future missions.
2.

Thoughts on Space Station maintenance activities.

NOTE:

Because of the similarity of responses to this question and Question 4

regarding tools, the responses to both questions have been cond&gt;1ned here.
This question was presented to all the contacts.

Two had no comments on

the subject.
One man said that multipurpose tools were Important.
Inclusion of files, wrenches, and other common tools.
Swiss Army knife was especially valuable.
tape with the adhesive on both sides.

He urged the

He stated that his

He also suggested providing sticky

This would be useful In restraining

small parts to the workbench surface when making repairs.

6

�One man commented that the Apo11o tool kit was very good.
Another urged that maintenance should be kept simple - at the 'black box'
level.
One respondent thought that neutral buoyancy training was good practice
for maintenance, but another stated that it was misleading at best.

He urged

that any procedures developed in a neutral buoyancy tank be checked out in the
zero-g aircraft before being adopted for use in space flight.
Only one person mentioned the importance of foot restraints.
One recommendation was to project maintenance instructions, and even
diagrams, on the inside of the helmet visor in the manner of a Head-Up Display
(HUD).
A quotation from one of the contacts might prove interesting:
•You design things for routine maintenance done there by people with tools
in order to keep the system simple, and with simplicity you gain reliability.
You get the reliability through that route rather than through redundancy and
automation."
Comments:

The most significant response to this question is contained in the'

last quotation.

The recent remarkable successes in satellite recovery

operations add emphasis to the quotation.

Future satellites and future Space

Station equipment should be developed with the plan in mind that crew members
are capable of performing routine bench-level maintenance.
3.

Alarm Systems.
This question was presented to seven contacts.

Two of them mentioned that

they noticed a decrease in the loudness of sounds somewhat proportional to the
reduction of pressure in the helmet.
experience.

Another denied that he had had that

Other comnents included the reconmendation that the volume of the

alarm be proportional to the severity of the situation; that for critical

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�energencles t h e r e should be simultaneous visual and a u d i b l e alarms; and t h a t
audible alarms should be a "warble t o n e ' a s i s used by some European police
cars.
Two individuals mentioned t h e g r e a t importance of e l i m i n a t i n g f a l s e
alarms. One suggested t h a t a study of t h e c h a r a c t e r i s t i c s of f a l s e alarms
might reveal a "signature" f o r f a l s e alarms.

This s i g n a t u r e could be

Incorporated i n t o a computer, and alarms could be evaluated a g a i n s t t h e s e
signatures before being sounded.
Comments:

The suggestion t o i n v e s t i g a t e t h e " s i g n a t u r e s ' of f a l s e alarms

might be worthy of f u r t h e r i n v e s t i g a t i o n .
4.

Tools f o r o n - o r b i t r e p a i r and maintenance.
Inasmuch a s t h i s was covered adequately in Question 2 , r e l a t i n g t o

maintenance a c t i v i t i e s , t h e answers t o t h i s question have been combined with
those obtained i n response t o Question 2 .
Comments;
5.

None.

Food and meals.
Of t h e ten persons Interviewed, one had no cormnent; t h r e e suggested t h a t

meals be s elected from a menu i n - f l i g h t ; and f i v e advised t h a t a l l individuals
e a t t h e same thing a t each meal with no s e l e c t i o n .

Hention was made by these

individuals t h a t t h e m i l i t a r y chow l i n e had much t o reconmend i t . One of the
f i v e suggested t h a t snack Items be provided f o r f r e e s e l e c t i o n from a pantry,
but he s t i l l did not recommend t h a t t h e r e be Item s e l e c t i o n f o r t h e main meals.
One person said he f e l t a menu determined ahead of time by crew interviews
was of l i t t l e value because people lose some of t h e i r a b i l i t y t o t a s t e when in
zero-g.

He a t t r i b u t e d t h i s t o loss of convection c u r r e n t s carrying aromatics

i n t o t h e nose.

He s a i d t h i s could be helped by providing strong condiments -

pepper i n o i l s o l u t i o n , hot mustard, and s o f o r t h .

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�One contact suggested the Investigation of foil-packaged foods that are
marketed under the brand name of RETORT FOODS.

These are not freeze dried,

and may be eaten hot or cold.
One contact urged that more attention be paid to the nutritional aspects
of the diet.

He distinguished between those aspects of food preparation that

are conventionally performed by a dietician and those performed by a
nutritionist.

He suggested NASA pay more attention to the latter aspects of

menu and diet selection.
Comments;

Those who advocated the military chow-line approach have probably

not seen today's chow line.

In present-day military dining halls, there is a

remarkably broad selection of items available.

One of the contacts suggested

that each crew member be asked about his dislikes rather than his likes.
disliked foods would not be provided in his menu.

The

This seems like a

reasonable approach.
6.

Trash disposal.
This question did not stimulate much discussion in the early interviews so

was eliminated later on.

Two subjects suggested that trash be pyrolized -

convert trash to energy.

Two others who were asked had no comment.

Five were

not asked.
Comments;
7.

None.

Clothing design.
The overwhelming opinion was for a two-piece garment with lots of pockets

(seven out of nine, with two "No Comments").

The advantage of being able to

shed the upper garment for comfort in warm areas was comnented on twice.

All

agreed that many pockets were a necessity, but pocket closure should be with
Velcro rather than with buttons, which could catch on things.

Two unusual

comments included the suggestion that a "dress" uniform be provided for
special occasions- this for morale purposes.
colors and styles was important for morale.

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Another was that a variety of
One individual stated the need

�for strict dress-code enforcenient as an aid to maintaining discipline.

One

subject stated he had had some experience with polypropylene outdoor clothing
and thought it might be worthwhile investigating.

He said it was quite

comfortable, but brought up the question of its fire resistance.
One suggested a different garment for wear during exercise periods.
One man suggested that two-piece uniforms have some means of fastening the
shirt/jacket to the waist of the trousers to prevent uncomfortable gapping at
that point.

He suggested Velcro.

There was a need expressed for a place to carry an emergency checklist at
all times.
Free choice of underwear was suggested.
One man suggested that slippers be provided for off-duty wear.
Coweents:

As might be expected, there was a wide range of suggestions

regarding clothing.

When some of the more extreme suggestions are eliminated

one reaches the conclusion that the basic in-flight uniform should be a
two-piece garment with many pockets.

The suggestion for the provision of a

place to keep an emergency checklist available at all times is a good one.
B.

Personal hygiene equipment.
Three contacts had no comments, and three were not asked.

The remainder

had comments that did not fit any pattern:
One wanted to use an electric toothbrush and an electric razor.

Another

preferred manual toothbrushes and a blade razor.
One man said that all on board should use whatever turned out to be
'issue' equipment.

He also mentioned that he would insist on daily shaving as

he felt it to be good for mental discipline.
mental set.

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He felt it establishes a good

�Although not r e a l l y classed a s personal hygiene equipment, one man
commented t h a t showers were important but he f e l t a sponge bath might do a s
well.
Comments;

One might question t h e a d v i s a b i l i t y of providing e l e c t r i c razors,

what with t h e p o s s i b i l i t y of producing "whisker dust" In t h e v i c i n i t y of t h e
face of t h e u s e r .

Since e l e c t r i c razors seem t o be more p r a c t i c a l i n the

Space S t a t i o n environment, i t might be worthwhile t o conduct s t u d i e s on t h e
Shuttle t o determine whether o r not whisker dust r e a l l y i s formed in the
v i c i n i t y of t h e external nares in a zero-g environment.

One might a l s o

perform animal s t u d i e s t o determine whether o r not dust produced from t h a t
animal's own guard h a i r s produced any lung pathology when inhaled on a d a i l y
basis f o r extended periods of time.
9.

Aids t o t r a n s f e r of massive o b j e c t s .
The question was asked of only four people, and two of them had no

comments.

One person s a i d , "Put a loop of rope around i t and snub i t down."

Another suggested t h e use of a "Brooklyn c l o t h e s l i n e " .
loop of rope strung between two p u l l e y s .
l i n e with c l i p s .

This i s a continuous

Objects could be attached t o the

On t h e other hand, another contact mentioned, in response t o

a d i f f e r e n t question, t h a t he had t r i e d such a device in t h e Weightless
Environment Training F a c i l i t y (WETF) and found i t worked very well, but when
he t r i e d i t in t h e zero-g a i r c r a f t i t became tangled t o such an extent as t o
prove u s e l e s s .
Comments:
10.

None.

I d e n t i f i c a t i o n of "Up" and "Down".
Because of t h e s pecial i n t e r e s t of t h i s question, a g r e a t deal of time was

spent on i t .

Of t h e t e n subjects questioned, nine were very d e f i n i t e in

s t a t i n g t h a t t h e r e was no need t o t a k e any p a r t i c u l a r pains t o i d e n t i f y up and
down.

Several commented t h a t down was always where t h e i r f e e t were.

There

appeared t o be no d i f f e r e n c e between t h e answers from individuals who had
flown in confined spacecraft and answers from those who had flown in spacious

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�vehicles.

One Individual said he himself was not bothered by the lack of up

and down, but stated he f e l t I t would be wise t o ensure t h a t everything In a
given volume have the same orientation.
One contact related that one of his colleagues had spent "hours and hours'
In the simulator, then went Into f l i g h t and became 111 even before he had
gotten out of the s eat . The point of t h i s observation I s t h a t t h i s person had
excellent up and down references but became 111 anyway.
In response t o a direct question, one man said t h a t even seeing his
colleagues In an orientation different from his own did not disturb him.
Two men conmented that the use of a simulator may drive the configuration
of the Space Station, a t least In areas where simulator training 1s
extensive.

The simulator will have t o be constructed with an up and down

orientation because I t I s used In a one-g f i e l d .

The Space Station area must

match the simulator for training If I t I s t o serve any purpose.
The following quotations are presented:
(1)

'Before I came Into the space program I tended t o have a great amount

of familiarity with mathematical techniques of rotation and translation of
axes systems...! tended t o look a t something and j u s t figure t h a t I had a
rotated coordinate system.

(In space) I ' d look out a t the Earth, and I ' d

recognize the Earth had I t s own set of Earth-centered coordinates.

The

spacecraft had I t s space-centered coordinates. Whenever I saw the two In the
same field of view 1 just automatically thought of the spacecraft as being
oriented t o the Earth, but more Importantly, I had my own body-centered
coordinates, and the Input, If somebody allows them t o , can be of those
things. . . . I f you operate 1n egocentric coordinates "down" will be towards
your f e e t .

I t makes no difference whether you're going over the Earth upside

down o r diving under I t , or any of those things, If you really look a t I t as
your world Is where you are, and everything else I s oriented around you."
(2)

One contact said he thought I t fun t o look a t the world upside down.

"Trying t o force a one-gravity mode of operation Into zero-gravity I s a
mistake.

I t defeats a l l of the freedom which you a r e given."

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�(3)

When he would go from one compartment t o another, one person s a i d ,

•There would be moments of d i s o r i e n t a t i o n and you would kind of f l i p your body
around and you'd pick t h e work s t a t i o n you were going t o work a t , and then a s
soon as you got your body flipped around t o where you were within about 45
degrees of t h a t work s t a t i o n ' s local v e r t i c a l then everything clicked in and
you were comfortable."
(4)

" I think t h a t maybe i f you s t a r t i d e n t i f y i n g up and down you may be

reminding people of t h i n g s they should be f o r g e t t i n g . "
" I think we adapt e a s i l y t o most any environment, but I j u s t d o n ' t think
there i s a g r e a t deal t o be gained by t r y i n g t o force people t o think as they
do here on Earth when they a r e , i n f a c t , in space."
Comments:

If t h e opinions of t h i s small sample of people a r e f e l t t o be

s i g n i f i c a n t one must conclude t h a t special e f f o r t s t o i d e n t i f y "up" and "down"
in Space Station will not pay l a r g e dividends.

The comment t o maintain a

constant local v e r t i c a l i n each module seems worthwhile following, i f i t i s
a r c h i t e c t u r a l l y f e a s i b l e and charges no penalty from a design standpoint.
On t h e other hand, none of t h e ten subjects interviewed admitted t o having
experienced any degree of nausea.

If none of t h e ten contacts became i l l , and

i f approximately 40X of S h u t t l e crew members become i l l , we a r e drawn t o four
possibilities:
(1)

The sample i s s o small t h a t chance alone resulted in my interviewing

only those individuals who did not become i l l .
(2)

There really i s some difference between those interviewed and Shuttle

crew members.
(3)
flight.

The persons interviewed did not admit t h a t they become i l l i n
From t h e obvious s i n c e r i t y and d i r e c t n e s s of t h e s e ten contacts, I am

convinced t h a t none of them became i l l .

This, I must admit, i s a very

subjective assessment, but i t i s my conviction t h a t they were a l l t r u t h f u l and
f o r t h r i g h t in t h e i r answers t o my questions.

This opinion i s substantiated by

t h e f a c t t h a t one individual did admit t h a t he would have become i l l had he
not paced h i s o n - o r b i t a c t i v i t y f o r t h e f i r s t t h r e e o r four days.

This

person's conments a r e found in t h e SPONTANEOUS COMHENTS s e c t i o n , which follows.

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�(4)

The flight environment of these ten contacts was different from the

Shuttle environment.
I suspect that the reason for the observed difference 1n distribution of
nausea In this group Is a combination of (1) and (4).
11.

Use of vented gases for attitude control.
This was only asked of four contacts.

One remarked that vented gases had

been used as an expediency to control tumbling In Gemini V.

Another had no

coment regarding the use of gases for attitude control, but he did suggest
that they be used to run turbines for power.
One said he did not think It such a good Idea - use control moment gyros
Instead.
Comments:
12.

None.

Importance of private cwnnunlcatlons.
This question was asked of all ten Individuals.

Responses varied from,

'Hot all that Important' to 'Absolutelyl'
Host of the respondents thought a private line was Important for personal
connunlcatlon with families, but of equal Importance was Its use In
operational control of the flight.

One subject gave an example of a situation

In which Instructions had to be paraphrased to keep them from being heard by
the press.

The paraphrased Instruction was misinterpreted to be a Joke and

was not followed.

The example cannot be further Identified or described here

as it would reveal the source, but suffice It to say that the well-being of a
crew member was Jeopardized by this misunderstanding.
One contact said, 'The Administrator [NASA] doesn't have a microphone In
his office with the world listening Into everything he says.
astronauts have the same privilege?'

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Why can't

�Another s a i d , 'They ( t h e press) have no more r i g h t in your bedroom on
o r b i t than they have in your bedroom on Earth.

They a r e not allowed t o go t o

your doctor and find out how you a r e and what you a r e doing (on Earth so they
d o n ' t have t h a t r i g h t i n s p a c e ) .
Coffinents:

I d o n ' t c a r e who's paying t h e b i l l . "

The respondents' r e p l i e s t o t h i s question were based more on t h e i r

feelings of p r i v i l e g e r a t h e r than on t h e a c t u a l need f o r and u t i l i t y of a
private communications l i n k .

They admitted t h e importance of the r i g h t t o

speak p r i v a t e l y t o t h e i r f a m i l i e s , but they did not seem too concerned with
the beneficial e f f e c t such communications would have on mission
accomplishment.

The comment regarding the u t i l i t y of a p r i v a t e link t o

discuss purely operational matters was s i g n i f i c a n t .
I would l i k e t o point out t h a t during s t r e s s f u l t r a i n i n g exercises during
the Mercury program I had many opportunities t o use t h e private l i n e and found
i t t o be of g r e a t b e n e f i t in assessing the s t a t u s of t h e t r a i n e e .

The

t r a i n e e s more than once made statements a s t o t h e i r physical s t a t u s t o me on
t h e p r i v a t e l i n e t h a t they would not make on t h e open loop.

As an individual,

and not a s t h e i n v e s t i g a t o r i n t h i s study. I would strongly recommend t h a t an
absolutely p r i v a t e communications l i n k be provided.

The "Earth end" of t h e

link would be under t h e control of t h e crew member.

That i s , t h e crew member

would decide who he would t a l k p r i v a t e l y t o , h i s family, t h e f l i g h t
c o n t r o l l e r , t h e physician, o r anyone e l s e .

One of t h e contacts in t h i s

investigation even mentioned t h a t a person spending many weeks o r months in a
Space S t a t i o n might wish t o speak p r i v a t e l y t o h i s broker!
13.

Use of portable f a n s .
Five contacts were asked t h i s question, and none of t h e f i v e ventured an

opinion.
Comments:
14.

The question was not presented t o t h e o t h e r f i v e .
None.

Opinions regarding t r a n s l a t i o n a l a i d s , control/switch p r o t e c t i v e devices,

o r i e n t a t i o n cues, and p r o t e c t i v e gear f o r personal wear.

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�Five of t h e ten contacts were not asked any p a r t of t h i s q u e s t i o n . Of the
f i v e remaining, only p a r t s were asked, o r only p a r t s were answered.
Four subjects expressed s a t i s f a c t i o n with t h e coninon "wicket-type" switch
guards.
One person s a i d he could not v i s u a l i z e r o l l r a t e s of such a magnitude as
t o require personal p r o t e c t i v e equipment such a s headgear.

He a l s o said

rounded corners and o t h e r methods should be used t o p r o t e c t a person moving
about in t h e cabin.
be required.
Comments;
15.

One o t h e r person s a i d he did not b e l i e v e headgear would

None.

Opinions regarding t h e a i r l o c k on Skylab.
This question was presented t o only t h r e e people, and only one of them had

an opinion.

He s t a t e d , "There should always be a s a f e haven one can g e t t o .

The racetrack design I s good. To have a s a f e haven in each module I s too
c o s t l y , I t takes up t o o much room."
Cocmaents:
16.

None.

Ideas regarding crew q u a r t e r s .
This was addressed by nine out of t h e ten Interviewed.

f e e l t h a t p r i v a t e crew q u a r t e r s were necessary.
very Spartan conditions.

Only two did not

One of t h e s e two advocated

He commented t h a t we c a n ' t a f f o r d t o build a Space

S t a t i o n t o accormodate anybody and everybody.

We must s e l e c t crews t h a t can

t o l e r a t e Spartan l i v i n g conditions f o r ninety days.
they can hang up anywhere."

"Olve them a sleeping bag

The o t h e r one of t h e s e two s a i d he compared a

ninety-day Space S t a t i o n t o u r with an overseas m i l i t a r y t o u r o r a camping
trip.

He s a i d , " I d o n ' t t h i n k you need t o have a p r i v a t e room and a l l t h a t as

long a s you have a place t o s l e e p . "

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�One of t h e remaining seven who commented s a i d he saw two c o n f l i c t i n g
requirements, one was t h e need f o r q u i e t and privacy, and t h e o t h e r was t h e
need t o be near t h e work s t a t i o n t o respond t o emergencies.

He suggested t h a t

NASA explore t h e p o s s i b i l i t y of providing a "sea cabin" f o r one o r more crew
members.

He a l s o f e l t t h a t any alarms sounded In t h e crew q u a r t e r s should be

p r i o r i t i z e d - perhaps only a " B a t t l e S t a t i o n s ! " type of alarm.
One contact with Skylab experience said he thought t h e crew quarters
should be a t l e a s t twice t h e s i z e of t h e Skylab q u a r t e r s .

He a l s o advised

t h a t they not be located near t h e exercise area t o diminish t h e noise l e v e l s .
One person commented t h a t t h e Apollo s l e e p r e s t r a i n t s were adequate, and
one commented t h a t t h e Skylab s l e e p r e s t r a i n t s were good.
With t h e exception of t h e two "Spartans", everyone believed p r i v a t e ,
individual, comfortable q u a r t e r s should be provided.
Comments:

There seems t o be no question but t h a t p r i v a t e crew quarters should

be provided.

These should be a s large a s I s practicably possible.

It Is

evident t h a t t h e e a r l y Space S t a t i o n w i l l not be large enough t o provide
commodious q u a r t e r s , but I t seems t h a t , given t h e a l t e r n a t i v e s , privacy I s
more t o be desired than volume.
17.

Medical t r a i n i n g f o r crew members.
This question was presented t o e i g h t of t h e ten c o n t a c t s .

The most common

response was t h a t e i t h e r a f l i g h t surgeon be on each crew, o r t h a t two of t h e
crew members should be t r a i n e d t o t h e level of paramedics. One respondent said
he believed a l l crew members should have extensive t r a i n i n g 1n physiology so
t h a t they would b e t t e r understand medical o r physiological problems t h a t arose
In themselves o r In o t h e r s . He a l s o f e l t t h e r e should be a f l i g h t surgeon on
board f o r long-term exposures.

Another f e l t t h a t every crew member should

have t h e equivalent of paramedic t r a i n i n g , and t h a t a physician was not
necessary unless he was dual t r a i n e d - a s a payload s p e c i a l i s t f o r example.
One o t h e r contact suggested t h a t i f a physician were assigned he should be

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�dual t r a i n e d .

Another contact reconnended t h a t NASA. 1n t h e i r s e l e c t i o n

program f o r mission s p e c i a l i s t s . Include s u f f i c i e n t physicians a s t o provide
one f o r each Space S t a t i o n crew.
Comments:

C l e a r l y , a minimum of two people on each crew must have some

competency 1n providing medical c a r e .
other can take care of him.

If one of t h e s e two becomes 111, the

A good compromise would be f o r one of t h e crew

members t o be a dual-trained ( a s a payload s p e c i a l i s t ) physician and t h e other
a s a dual-trained person with medical t r a i n i n g e q u i v a l e n t t o t h a t of a
paramedic.
18.

Need f o r group dynamics t r a i n i n g .
Group dynamics t r a i n i n g was b r i e f l y described a s a psychological technique

which helps people t o work together and t o give each o t h e r mutual support and
tolerance.
This question was presented t o nine c o n t a c t s .

Only two f e l t no t r a i n i n g

was required, and one f e l t I t should be given only If a problem a r o s e .
stated he had heard t h e Russians had had a problem.

One

One commented a s follows:

*I think t h a t I t ' s going t o be Increasingly important t h a t they have a t
l e a s t some amount of t h i s [group dynamics t r a i n i n g ] because you would l i k e t o
have a preconditioned a t t i t u d e of how t h e y ' r e supposed t o work t o g e t h e r .

You

d o n ' t want t o have some highly motivated mission s c i e n t i s t back t h e r e [ I n the
space lab o r an analogous p a r t of a Space S t a t i o n ] who d o e s n ' t understand
where t h a t p r i o r i t y I n t e r f a c e s with t h e s e o t h e r p r i o r i t i e s . "
Another commented t h a t he f e l t f u t u r e crews, who would not have a s much
I n t e r a c t i v e t r a i n i n g a s those of today, should be required t o function In some
s o r t of environment together before they launch.

He suggested t h a t Survival

School might be useful f o r t h a t purpose.
One contact was e s p e c i a l l y concerned In regard t o t h i s m a t t e r .

His

coenents took up more than a page of single-spaced t y p e s c r i p t , and Included
t h e following statements:

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�' I think t h a t [ t h e lack of p s y c h i a t r i c o r psychological support] i s one of
the shortcomings of NASA over t h e y e a r s , and I d o n ' t know i f they've solved
t h a t problem yet today, and t h a t i s t h a t t h e r e i s no a c t i v e program having t o
do with t h e behavioral sciences t h a t helps e i t h e r t h e astronauts in dealing
with one another o r t h e a s t r o n a u t s and t h e i r families dealing with t h e
situation."
' I think i t i s unfortunate t h a t astronauts have never been given any kind
of opportunity f o r behavioral science understanding.

There has been such a

stigma associated with psychologic o r p s y c h i a t r i c therapy t h a t everyone stays
away from i t l i k e i t i s some kind of poison."
' I though i t was j u s t r e a l l y too bad t h a t t h e r e was not some s o r t of a
program in NASA t o help i n some s o r t of an upbeat way - t o give them access t o
these people - give them some t r a i n i n g on techniques of dealing with t h e s e
problems.

The problems a r e t h e r e ! "

Another c o n t a c t ' s comments f i l l e d t h r e e single-spaced t y p e s c r i p t pages,
but were mostly personal experiences with h i s f r i e n d s , and cannot be reported
here because of t h e p o s s i b i l i t y of revealing t h e source.

He l e f t no doubt in

t h i s i n t e r v i e w e r ' s mind t h a t he was strongly i n favor of professional
psychological support f o r t h e crews and f o r t h e i r f a m i l i e s .
Comments:
19.

See comments t o Question 1 9 .

Should f a m i l i e s have s i m i l a r psychological support?
This question was posed t o e i g h t of t h e t e n c o n t a c t s .

One had no comment,

two said i t need not be provided, and one s a i d i t should be provided only on a
voluntary b a s i s If t h e family member f e l t t h e need and asked f o r i t .

The r e s t

f e l t i t should be provided In some degree o r another.
A commonly expressed suggestion was t o keep t h e f a m i l i e s very well
informed about a l l a s p e c t s of t h e program, and t o g e t them involved with
whatever i s going on.

One man s a i d , "The more you involve t h e wives i n t o t h e

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�operation, t h e more support you g e t from them.

Keep them Informed and give

them l i n e s of conmunlcatlon t o , f o r example. Mission Control Center." He also
s a i d , ' I know when I was t h e r e [assigned t o NASA], t h e wives and t h e families
were r e a l l y I s o l a t e d .

They were r e a l l y pushed back In a c o r n e r .

I s , t h a t kind of treatment was I n f e c t i o u s .

The program t r e a t e d t h e wife t h a t

way, and p r e t t y soon we s t a r t e d t r e a t i n g our wives t h e same way.
really tragic."

The problem

" I know I t cost a l o t of guys t h e i r m a r r i a g e . "

I t was
He continued

by saying. 'You c a n ' t t r e a t people l i k e numbers, and t h a t ' s what NASA d i d .
t h e wives were unhappy, w e l l , t h a t ' s t o o bad!

If

'Think of a l l t h i s Important

work t h a t your husband I s doing and go home and s h u t u p ! '

I t d i d n ' t work."

On the other hand, another contact s t a t e d , "The t h i n g s t h a t d o n ' t k i l l you
make you s t r o n g e r .

I , f r a n k l y , think t h e experience was a p o s i t i v e experience

f o r my w i f e . "
He was not one of those In favor of a formal program f o r t h e f a m i l i e s .
Comments:

Because Question 18 and Question 19 a r e s o c l o s e l y r e l a t e d ,

comments t o both of them w i l l be presented h e r e .

For some reason t h e r e seemed

t o be more enthusiasm expressed f o r providing some s o r t of psychological
support f o r t h e crew members than f o r providing s i m i l a r support f o r t h e
families.

I had expected t h e reverse would prove t h e c a s e .

I t would seem

Important t o ensure t h a t f u t u r e Space S t a t i o n crews have t h e opportunity t o
work very c l o s e l y together in s i t u a t i o n s t h a t w i l l r e q u i r e mutual support.
Although I t might be d i f f i c u l t t o j u s t i f y giving survival t r a i n i n g t o Space
Station crews, t h a t s o r t of s o c i a l I n t e r a c t i o n would probably pay large
dividends when t h e crew occupy t h e Space S t a t i o n .

I t might a l s o be of benefit

f o r NASA t o Introduce a c e r t a i n amount of psychological t r a i n i n g I n t o t h e
program.
The contacts, f o r the most p a r t , were not concerned about providing
psychological support f o r t h e f a m i l i e s .

However, t h o s e who were In favor of

such support were very p o s i t i v e In t h e i r s t a t e m e n t s .

My personal f e e l i n g s in

t h i s regard, and many of t h e s e f e e l i n g s have been generated by t h e very strong

�and sincere statements expressed by two of t h e c o n t a c t s , a r e t h a t NASA has
been remiss In not Including t h e f a m i l i e s a s p a r t of t h e program. I t seems
that more d e t a i l e d b r i e f i n g s might be given t h e wives so t h a t they would have
a better Idea of of what t h e i r husbands a r e doing.

This action might not

Improve the effectiveness of t h e husbands, but nevertheless should be provided
if only f o r humanitarian reasons.
The question of r e l i g i o u s b e l i e f s was never presented a s a formal
question, but I t did come up spontaneously In t h e discussions with most of t h e
contacts.

From t h e i r expressions of belief and f a i t h 1 t I s my conclusion t h a t

a resident chaplain a t JSC would be of g r e a t value t o t h e program.
20.

Crew I n t e r a c t i v e t r a i n i n g In a one~g simulator.
Because of t h e many very strong polarized f e e l i n g s brought out by t h e

questions on group dynamics t r a i n i n g (Questions 19 and 20), I t was f e l t t h a t
t h i s question should be eliminated.
misinterpreted i t .

I t was asked of only one contact and he

His answer r e l a t e d t o command s t r u c t u r e of a Space Station

crew, and will be included with t h e answers t o Question 45.
Comments:
21.

None.

Problem of ambient nois e.
Here I s another question t h a t was, f o r a l l I n t e n t s and purposes,

eliminated. The contacts a c t u a l l y answered I t when speaking of t h e need f o r
quiet In p r i v a t e q u a r t e r s .
The question was posed t o t h r e e I n d i v i d u a l s .

One Implied In h i s answer

t h a t noise was not a big problem - one g e t s used t o I t .

On t h e o t h e r hand,

unanticipated noises o r motions of t h e s p a c e c r a f t a r e very d i s t r a c t i n g .

The

third said t h a t on h i s f l i g h t , crew member noise prevented sound sleeping In
shifts.
Comitents:

None.

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�22.

Wardroom, e n t e r t a i n m e n t , e x t e r n a l v i e w i n g , and E a r t h p o s i t i o n .
All t e n c o n t a c t s a g r e e d t h a t a wardroom was I m p o r t a n t .
There was near-unanimous o p i n i o n t h a t p e r s o n a l l y s e l e c t e d books and music

t a p e s were I m p o r t a n t t h i n g s t o t a k e a l o n g .

Other suggestions Included the

p r o v i s i o n of movies on VCR t a p e s , and one I n d i v i d u a l s u g g e s t e d t h a t books,
movies, and o t h e r forms of a u d i o - v i s u a l e n t e r t a i n m e n t c o u l d be p u t on l a s e r
video d i s c s .

Hany I n d i v i d u a l s commented on t h e f a c t t h a t r e a l - t i m e coimerclal

news progratming and e n t e r t a i n m e n t shows c o u l d be u p - l i n k e d w i t h l i t t l e
difficulty.
Only one person had no s t r o n g o p i n i o n on t h e need f o r windows, b u t even he
s a i d t h e y were h i g h l y d e s i r a b l e , b u t n o t o f prime I m p o r t a n c e .

One person

s a i d , 'Nobody e v e r g e t s enough t i m e l o o k i n g o u t o f w i n d o w s . '

Another s a i d ,

'They should make s u r e t h a t t h e r e a r e a s many windows a s p o s s i b l e . '

He

suggested one be p u t n e a r t h e e x e r c i s e d e v i c e s o one c o u l d l o o k o u t w h i l e
exercising.

One man s a i d t h e windows a r e e x t r e m e l y 1nQ)ortant from a

recreational as well an Inspirational standpoint.
p o r t s and t i m e t o u s e t h e m . '
spacecraft the better.

He s a i d , 'You need viewing

One of t h e c o n t a c t s s a i d , ' T h e more windows In a

One of t h e most e n j o y a b l e t h i n g s you have t o do up

t h e r e 1 s t o look o u t t h e window.

I n f a c t , even a b u b b l e window might be n i c e . *

One of t h e more a r t i c u l a t e c o n t a c t s s a i d :
' I , f o r o n e , am t o t a l l y convinced t h a t t h e magic of s p a c e and t h e v a l u e of
being t h e r e I n v o l v e s being a b l e t o s e e w h a t ' s o u t t h e r e . . . I t 1 s from t h e human
s t a n d p o i n t t h a t I t h i n k you need l o t s of viewing p o r t s .
Important.

I d o n ' t c a r e I f 1 t does c o s t more money.

I t h i n k t h a t ' s very

The r e t u r n I n keeping

p e o p l e ' s I n t e r e s t , and t h e m o t i v a t i o n and a l l t h a t s o r t o f t h i n g , t o d o more
and more, and t o g o f u r t h e r , 1 s v e r y d r a m a t i c a l l y enhanced by b e i n g a b l e t o
see.'
Comments:

The most c o n s i s t e n t answer t o a n y of t h e f i f t y - o n e q u e s t i o n s was

t h e s t r o n g p o s i t i v e e x p r e s s i o n of a need f o r a wardroom w i t h some s o r t of
entertainment equipment.
Individual preferences.

The s u g g e s t i o n s f o r t h i s equipment c l e a r l y followed
Of equal unanimity was t h e e x p r e s s e d need f o r many

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�and large windows.

This has such g r e a t importance t h a t i t would appear

important t o consider t h e p o s s i b i l i t y of providing bubble windows, a s was
suggested by one of t h e c o n t a c t s .
23.

Body waste c o l l e c t i o n and d i s p o s a l .
Six contacts were asked t h i s question.

Two had no ccHwnents, and two said

they f e l t t h a t t h e Skylab system was adequate, although they did not l i k e t h e
idea of bagging t h e f e c e s .

One man said even t h e Apollo system was a l l r i g h t

in s p i t e of t h e need t o bag t h e f e c e s .

The t h i r d comment related only t o

urine collection and t h a t person said he f e l t t h e ordinary a i r c r a f t , r e l i e f
tube was adequate.

Although he d id not say s o , i t was c l e a r t h a t he meant

such a device would have t o be adapted t o t h e zero-g environment.
Comments:
24.

None.

Personal c l e a n l i n e s s .
Since t h i s question had a l s o been addressed in Question 8 , Personal

Hygiene Equipment, i t was presented t o only f o u r of t h e c o n t a c t s .

Two of them

had no comment; one recommended t h e use of a spring-driven razor; and another,
who uses a blade r a z o r , s a i d he f e l t frequent o r d a i l y shaving was good f o r
crew d i s c i p l i n e .
Conments:
25.

This was t h e second contact t o make t h a t comment.

This was considered in t h e comments t o Question 8 .

Exercise.
This question was asked of nine c o n t a c t s .

important.

All agreed t h a t exercise was

One s a i d he f e l t e x e r c i s e and good food were t h e two most

in^ortant things t o provide f o r long-duration space f l i g h t .

Two others said

they f e l t e x e r c i s e was important from a psychological and morale standpoint a s
well as from a physical well-being point of view.
Five people recommended t h a t both a bicycle ergometer and a treadmill be
provided.

One mentioned only a treadmill and one mentioned only a bicycle.

a

�Two people mentioned that it Is also necessary to exercise the upper torso
and arms.

One of these recoimiended spring or bungee devices for this

purpose.

Another thought a Nautilus-type of exercise device should be

provided.
One person said he thought the Cxergenle was a very useful device, but
another stated that he tried to use it on his flight and found that the nylon
ropes heated from the friction of use and stretched, making the device useless.
Another person said he believed there is a need for something that will
provide structural stress to the skeletal system, but he had no ideas on how
to do that.
Only two people suggested a duration for the exercise period.

One

suggested ninety minutes and the other sixty minutes.
Coniwents;

The need for exercise was strongly supported by all.

It Is my

understanding that investigations into the types of exercise equipment needed
are being conducted.

I can only urge that these Investigations be continued

both on the ground and In flight.
2b.

How to manage books and manuals.
This question was presented to only four of the ten contacts.

One stated

he preferred books, but could learn to live with Information presented on
CRTs.

One contact had no comments, and the other two said that they did not

think that everything had to be In data banks.

Some material can best be

presented in book form, and other material can be stored In data banks for
retrieval when needed.
The feeling seemed to be that recreational material was best presented In
book form, but technical material (with the exception of emergency checklists)
could be stored In data banks.
Cowaents:

None.

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�27.

Han/machine interface.
This question was put to five of the ten contacts.
One suggested that color be used more in the design of the Space Station,

and one said color was not a11 that important.

One had no comment.

One man suggested that NASA employ what he called "functional artists" to
help in designing the interior of the Space Station.

He stated that the

wardroom should be of a "relaxing* color and the flight deck should be of an
"alerting" color.
One individual urged caution in accepting the use of digital displays.

He

said:
"Digital offers various advantages in terms of accuracy, precision when
you need precision, but the human being is an integrator, he doesn't take
snapshots, and there is a lot of information and intelligence lost when you're
looking at a digital display."
Comments:

The science of architecture is advancing at a great pace.

NASA

would be well advised to use the services of this discipline in establishing
interior design criteria for the Space Station.
I was impressed by the warning about digital displays.

From a purely

personal standpoint I find it easier to integrate analog informational
displays than I do digital displays, but this may be purely cultural.

An

interesting area for investigation would be to assess whether people get more
or less information from one display than the other.

Unquestionably, it is

easier and quicker to read, for example, the exact time from a digital
display, but does one find it also easier to tell how many minutes have
elapsed since a given event or how much time remains before a given action
must be taken. I am sure similar analyses could be made of altimeters, and
other displays of changing quantifiable information.

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�2B.

Three s h i f t s o r one?
This question was asked of s i x people.

One had no connient.

Only one of

t h e remaining f i v e f e l t t h a t a l l crew members should be allowed t o s l e e p a t
t h e same time.
times.

They f e l t t h a t someone should be awake and on watch a t a l l

One man s a i d t h a t t h e crews should be a b l e t o work longer than

eight-hour s h i f t s .

He s a i d , 'You're not t h e r e on a v a c a t i o n , even f o r three

months.'
One contact s t a t e d t h a t timelines should be f l e x i b l e enough t o accomnodate
t h e mission, and t h e crew members should be i n d o c t r i n a t e d in t h e occasional
need f o r working on t h e i r off-duty time.

For exati^le, an Earth resources task

night require t h a t t h e Earth resources s p e c i a l i s t t a k e photos a t a p a r t i c u l a r
time on a p a r t i c u l a r o r b i t , and t h a t might occur during h i s o f f - d u t y time.
This question a l s o asked t h e contact t o comment on whether e x e r c i s e should
be an off-duty endeavor o r a duty-time a c t i v i t y .
obtained.

Only t h r e e answers were

One man said exercise should be done during o f f - d u t y hours.

The

second said t h e question was i r r e l e v a n t because one i s never ' o f f d u t y ' In
space.

The t h i r d said he thought half of t h e e x e r c i s e should be done during

on-duty time and half of i t when off d u t y .
Comments:

As was t h e case i n most of t h e s e q u e s t i o n s , t h e r e was no r eal

unanimity of opinion unless i t was t h a t someone should be awake a t a l l times.
This seems t o be a most reasonable and l o g i c a l p o s i t i o n .
29.

Importance of real-time TV.
Here i s another example of a question t h a t was covered f a i r l y well i n an

e a r l i e r question.

See Question 22. which addresses wardroom accommodations.

This question (29) was asked of only t h r e e persons.

One had no comment:

one thought i t was very important; and t h e o t h e r did not b e l i e v e i t t o be of
g r e a t importance.
Comments:

None.

�30.

Who should s e l e c t t h e crews?
All but t h r e e of t h e contacts were asked t h i s question and, a s one might

expect, t h e r e was a wide range of opinion i n t h i s regard.
person a r e summarized in t h e following paragraphs.
(1)

A crew s e l e c t i o n committee has v i r t u e .

made by one person.

The r e p l i e s of each

No r e a l p a t t e r n emerged.

The s e l e c t i o n should not be

Perhaps t h e Captain should be s e l e c t e d f i r s t .

He would

then s e l e c t a second person; t h e two of them would s e l e c t t h e t h i r d ; and s o on
until a l l crew members had been chosen.
(2)

Overall Management should make t h e s e l e c t i o n .

The Commander should

not have s o l e s e l e c t i o n a u t h o r i t y , but he should have veto powers.

The peer

review concept has v i r t u e i n t h a t i t i d e n t i f i e s t h e unpopular individuals.
(3)

The crew should be s e l e c t e d by Management - they have more

information a v a i l a b l e t o them than does anyone e l s e .
i s a useful t o o l .

The peer review process

Management needs an input from t h e crew Commander.

This

contact believed t h a t a small group of crews should be selected and flown
frequently.

This saves expensive t r a i n i n g time over t h e o t h e r a l t e r n a t i v e ,

which i s t o have a l a r g e pool of candidates from which crews a r e selected t o
fly less fre q uently.
(4)

Believes a nucleus of crew members should be s e l e c t e d .

These people

fly frequently and t r a i n t h e i r own replacements ( t h e r i g h t - s e a t man eventually
moves i n t o a l e f t - s e a t assignment).

Whatever system i s used, i t should be

well understood by a l l t h e candidates.

Each should know what the s e l e c t i o n

c r i t e r i a a r e , and how t h e process o p e r a t e s .
(5)

Mentioned t h a t he l i k e d t h e way Slayton handled t h e s e l e c t i o n

process, but believes t h e s e l e c t i o n pool i s much too l a r g e .
(6)

Also mentioned t h a t he liked t h e way Slayton did h i s job i n t h e p a s t .

(7)

NASA management should s e l e c t t h e operational crew.

authority should s e l e c t t h e t e c h n i c a l crew.

Some o t h e r

The combined group should work

together f o r a period of time, and t h e Commander should be a b l e t o e x e r c i s e
veto power over members of both groups i f he f e l t an individual would not f i t
in.
Conments:

I am i n c l i n e d t o go along with respondent Number 3 .

Number 7 made e s s e n t i a l l y t h e same comments.

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Respondent

My disagreement with Number 3 i s

�only i n regard t o t h e concept of peer review.

I an s u r e i t does point out the

unpopular i n d i v i d u a l s , a s s t a t e d by c o n t a c t Number 2 , but a t what expense?

I

am s u r e t h e unpopular individual i s already known by Management by t h e time
they g e t around t o s e l e c t i n g t h e crews.

One i s i n c l i n e d t o ask how important

i s popularity anyway?
31.

Does EVA require t h e 'buddy system"?
Only four people were asked t h i s question.

One had no conntent, and the

other t h r e e said they believed i t was necessary.

One of them s a i d he thought

the buddy might be a f u l l y s u i t e d a s t r o n a u t who remained i n s i d e t h e s t a t i o n ,
but was ready t o go outside a t a moment's n o t i c e .
None said they though t h e buddy system was unnecessary.
Comments:
32.

None.

How can t h e EVA s u i t be in^troved?
This question was asked of seven people.

Again, t h e comments were not

c o n s i s t e n t , and r e f l e c t t h e i n d i v i d u a l ' s personal views.

There i s a l s o some

overlap in t h e answers with t h e answers t o some of t h e o t h e r q u e s t i o n s .
(1)

For prolonged EVA t h e astronaut should be provided with a 'motorman's

f r i e n d * , a d i a p e r , water, but no food.
(2)

For missions t h a t w i l l require EVA soon a f t e r a t t a i n i n g o r b i t , t h e

EVA crewman should be s elected from a pool of i n d i v i d u a l s who, by t h e i r past
experience in o r b i t , have shown t o be r e s i s t a n t t o space motion s i c k n e s s .
Nevertheless, vomitus containment apparatus should be provided ' j u s t in case.*
(3)

Consider using honey water a s a source of energy and f l u i d .

glove needs improvement s o a s t o provide b e t t e r t a c t i l e s e n s a t i o n .

The
A wire saw

(Gigli saw) should be taken along on every EVA f o r emergency u s e .
(4)

Mentions b e t t e r gloves with improved t a c t i l e s e n s a t i o n .

(5) Suggests t h a t t h e problem of f i n g e r t i p i n j u r y could be solved by
c l o s e r trimming of t h e f i n g e r n a i l s .
(6)

Recommends t h e hard, r i g i d , high-pressure ( 8 p s i ) s u i t .

(7)

One man had no comments.

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�Cownents:

The suggestion t o use honey water a s a source of nourishment and of

fluids c e r t a i n l y deserves i n v e s t i g a t i o n .

Methods f o r c o l l e c t i n g urine and

feces (a diaper should be adequate f o r emergencies) a r e e s s e n t i a l , and I
believe t h a t some s o r t of vomitus containment device i s a l s o e s s e n t i a l .
People s t i l l become i l l , even on t h e s u r f a c e of t h e Earth in a one-g f i e l d ,
^

and there i s no reason t o suspect t h i n g s w i l l d i f f e r i n space.

^

problem comes up with t h e food s t o r a g e equipment, t h e r e might well be some
gastroenteric I l l n e s s e s developing.

In f a c t , i f a

F i n a l l y , i t seems logical t o develop a

suit t h a t provides a t l e a s t 8 - p s i p r e s s u r e , more If f e a s i b l e .

The advantages

to such a garment a r e t o o well known t o warrant elaboration in t h i s r e p o r t .
33.

EVA r e s t r a i n t s , t e t h e r s , hand holds, l i g h t s , e t c .
After receiving t h r e e "no comments" i n a row, t h i s question was

eliminated.

I t was asked of f o u r c o n t a c t s and only one had any comments.

His

are as follows:
"There i s a need f o r a s m a l l , multipurpose t o o l k i t with interchangeable
end-effectors.

Small l i g h t s on t h e f i n g e r t i p s a s were used in the Mercury

program a r e extremely u s e f u l .

These can be d i r e c t e d b e t t e r than a

helmet-mounted l i g h t . "
Comments;
effective.
34.

The use of f i n g e r t i p l i g h t s on t h e Mercury s u i t was most
This might be i n v e s t i g a t e d again f o r t h e Space S t a t i o n s u i t .

Suggestions regarding mortuary a f f a i r s .
This question was posed t o f o u r of t h e persons interviewed.

Two s t a t e d

that the sensible t h i n g t o do would be some form of o n - o r b i t d i s p o s a l .
said, in some s e r i o u s n e s s , "Shoot me i n t o t h e Sun!"

(One

He was aware of t h e

high-energy c o s t of doing t h i s , s o t h e r e was some l e v i t y i n t h e remark t o o . )
6ut they a l s o recognize t h a t t h i s would not be acceptable in today' s s o c i e t y .

I
^

One of t h e contacts s a i d t h e problem should be addressed and solved before
we go t o Space S t a t i o n , but he had no i d e a s .

The f o u r t h person agreed with

the necessity t o bring t h e body back i n a condition s u i t a b l e f o r an
open-casket f u n e r a l , but he had no ideas on how t h i s could be accon4)lished.

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�Conroents;

One approach t o mortuary ser vices might be t o c o n s u l t with various

museums of natural h i s t o r y .

One of t h e modern methods of taxidermy i s t o

place the animal In a l i f e - l i k e pose and f r e e z e I t in t h a t p o s i t i o n .

A vacuum

i s then drawn on t h e container, and t h e animal i s c o n p l e t e l y d e s i c c a t e d . The
desiccated specimen i s then placed in a sealed c a s e .

This technique could be

adapted t o t h e Space S t a t i o n as a method of preserving t h e body of a deceased
crew member u n t i l a r e l i e f vessel makes c o n t a c t .
35.

Foot r e s t r a i n t s a t t h e work s t a t i o n .
This question was given t o four s u b j e c t s .

Three had no comments, and one

s t a t e d t h e t r i a n g u l a r shoes used in Skylab worked f i n e .
Topics explored in t h i s question were a l s o addressed i n Questions 33 and
36.
Comments:
36.

None.

Locomotion a i d s .
Only two s u b j e c t s were asked t h i s question.

One had no comments, and the

other s a i d , 'Only what i s needed f o r f a c i l i t y and s a f e t y .

The best locomotion

i s j u s t t o head out and across!*
Co—mnts:
37.

None.

Body r e s t r a i n t s f o r t a s k s requiring extreme s t e a d i n e s s .
This question was presented t o only t h r e e s u b j e c t s .

Two f e l t i t t o be no

problem, and one s t a t e d t h a t perhaps a r i g i d arm could be i n s t a l l e d a t t h e
work s t a t i o n .

This could be swung out from a stowed p o s i t i o n and used t o

clamp t h e a s t r o n a u t i n t o p o s i t i o n .
Comments:

None.

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�38.

Thoughts on a r t i f i c i a l g r a v i t y .
This topic was discussed with nine c o n t a c t s .

make.

Two had no connients t o

One s t a t e d c a t e g o r i c a l l y t h a t he thought t h e r e i s a d i s t i n c t medical

need for a r t i f i c i a l g r a v i t y .

Three were of t h e opinion t h a t a r t i f i c i a l

gravity should not be considered unless an overwhelming physiological need
developed.

One expressed t h e opinion t h a t when t h e time comes when we can

build very-long-term-exposure f a c i l i t i e s , a r t i f i c i a l g r a v i t y should be
provided because t h e time expended in e x e r c i s e (he estimated one t o one and a
half hours a day.) a r e nonproductive hours which could be put t o b e t t e r use i f
a r t i f i c i a l g r a v i t y were provided.
No respondent f e l t a r t i f i c i a l g r a v i t y i s required f o r psychological
reasons.
One was very s t r o n g l y opposed t o i t .

Our conversation went a s follows:

'Another thing - I wouldn't worry about a r t i f i c i a l g r a v i t y .
i s considering a r t i f i c i a l g r a v i t y any more.

I hope nobody

I t h i n k t h a t ' s a waste of time.

And you destroy many of t h e advantages you gain by being weightless.
Particularly f o r those people who may have a g r a v i t a t i o n a l handicap.
don't have a g r a v i t a t i o n a l handicap in space.

They

They ought t o be permitted t o

participate a s f u l l - f l e d g e d workers and crew members i n space.
0.

There i s some consideration being given t o t h e so-called t e t h e r

system, which w i l l provide a r t i f i c i a l g r a v i t y .
A.

Well, I ' l l t e l l you - I t h i n k t h a t ' s a waste of money, a waste of

manpower and i n t e l l e c t s t o even worry about i t .
have a good reason t o do i t .

F i f t y years from now you may

I d o n ' t t h i n k you have a good reason now.

Certainly calcium loss i s not a j u s t i f i c a t i o n , i n my o p i n i o n . "
One person f e l t t h a t t h e r e was a need f o r an a r t i f i c i a l g r a v i t y area in
the Space S t a t i o n , but he had no ideas a s t o how t h i s could be accomplished.
He said:

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�•There are some good benefits from zero-g, but I would hope that in the
Space Station there would be some area or some volume of the Space Station
that would have artificial gravity. I don't know whether it should be the
gravity of Earth or the gravity of the moon, but some light gravity field
would prevent the deterioration, the decondltioning, of the cardiovascular
system, and also the sickness that comes Initially with exposure to the
weightless environment.'
Comments:

I am in agreement with the contact who stated that the provision of

artificial gravity negates one of the more Important reasons for being there.
Of course, it Is self-evident that If an overwhelming medical or physiological
need arises for artificial gravity. It must be provided, but lacking that, I
can see no justification for It.

The concept that the provision of artificial

gravity would eliminate the need for exercise and thus be an economically
justifiable approach warrants study.

The economics of this question Is beyond

my area of knowledge, so I do not feel competent to coiment one way or another
on the suggestion.
39.

What about autonomy?
This question was presented to eight contacts, and all but one had very

definite opinions on the subject.

Four contacts stated that they believed the

Space Station Commander should be the final authority.
ground should perform strategic planning only,

Four felt that the

other comaents included one

that the Control Center should be used only for their more extensive
resources.

Two others stated that Hisslon Control Center should be used for

routine data analysis only, and this because 1t was more economical to do this
kind of Information processing on the ground than in the Space Station.
Another connent was that the Control Center should be informative, not
protective, and finally, one person commented that the Control Center should
be absolutely honest with the flight crew; no information should be withheld
from the crew using the Justification that they were being protected by this
action. This respondent also said that the crew must be open and honest with
the ground as well.

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�Conments;

All of t h e contacts were i n c l i n e d towards more autonomy f o r the

Space Station, and l e s s r e l i a n c e on t h e ground.
logical and a p p r o p r i a t e .

This trend seems t o be most

I concur with t h e conment t h a t t h e g r e a t e r

analytical resources on t h e ground should be used in preference t o i n - f l i g h t
analysis.
40.

U t i l i t y of a miniature helmet-mounted TV camera.
This question was presented t o only two c o n t a c t s .

useful, but only f o r c e r t a i n (unspecified) t a s k s .

One said i t might be

The o t h e r contact had no

connents t o make on t h e s u b j e c t .
Conntents:
41.

None.

What about an expendable launch vehicle rescue c a p a b i l i t y .
The question was put t o f i v e people, of which one had no comment.

Only

one person was e n t h u s i a s t i c about t h e concept and he s a i d :
"I d o n ' t s e e why n o t .

I t would be expensive, but i t would be only a

one-time expense. Once you got t h e t h i n g ready t o go, t h e expense of recycling
i t would not be t h a t g r e a t .

You could even go with a s o l i d .

have t o be reserviced a s o f t e n .

I t would not

Over a period of years t h e r e ' s going t o be

some times when i t j u s t might be needed, and i t would c e r t a i n l y pay f o r
itself.'
One said he would r a t h e r put t h e emphasis on more on-board r e l i a b i l i t y .
Another said he would r a t h e r use t h o s e resources t o expand t h e o r b l t e r f l e e t
so as t o provide a quick-rescue c a p a b i l i t y .

One individual said he would

rather have t h e escape c a p a b i l i t y b u i l t i n t o t h e Space S t a t i o n i t s e l f .
Comments:
42.

None.

How can man-on-board reduce redundancy?
This question was presented t o only f o u r c o n t a c t s .

that they had no comments.

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Three of them said

�One s t a t e d he did not want t o g e t Involved 1n a lengthy discussion of the
question, but did want t o venture h i s opinion t h a t we a r e s t i l l designing too
much redundancy I n t o experiments because t h e s c i e n t i s t s r e f u s e t o accept t h a t
man can make up f o r i t .
Cowwents;

The comments following Question 2 point out t h e u t i l i t a r i a n value

of man on t h e scene.

Again, we should design equipment f o r r e p a i r and

maintenance on o r b i t r a t h e r than provide layer s of redundancy.
A3.

Ideas f o r design of a safe haven.
This question was put t o seven people.

Two of them had no comments.

One

s t a t e d t h a t he did not think we needed more than two s a f e havens on t h e Space
S t a t i o n ; another man said he thought every module should be I s o l a t a b l e ; and a
t h i r d suggested designing t h e s a f e haven s o t h a t t h e occupants could continue
t o be productive.

He f e l t t h i s was e s s e n t i a l t o t h e i r morale.

One contact s t a t e d , " I would put my e f f o r t s I n t o Introducing realism t o
t h e public."

When asked t o explain t h e statement he s a i d t h a t we must prepare

the public t o accept the f a c t t h a t we're going t o lose a s p a c e c r a f t sometime.
pomnents:

The suggestion t o provide means f o r crews t o remain productive as a

morale booster In t h e s a f e haven I s one t h a t deserves some thought.
44.

Philosophy f o r EVA use.
Of t h e f i v e people who were presented with t h i s q u e s t i o n , one had no

comment; two f e l t t h a t I t should be used r o u t i n e l y ; one s a i d I t should be used
when c o s t e f f e c t i v e ; and one s t a t e d only, " I am s u r e i t would be u s e f u l . "
Conmmnts:
45.

None.

On-board command s t r u c t u r e .
This question probably stimulated a s much discussion a s any of t h e 51.

was presented t o a l l ten c o n t a c t s .

Six of them unequivocally recomaended a

strong Commander with a c l e a r and d i s t i n c t chain of conmend.
p o s i t i v e voice In t h i s group was one who s a i d :

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The most

It

�•The Commander 1s the boss—just like 1n a military vehicle [or] In polar
exploration trips.

He's the boss.

varied opinions on things.

He can appoint deputies.

He's a real strong individual.

'This is the way it's donel [Strikes table for emphasis.].

He can ask for
He's going to say,
We're not even

going to question it.'"
A considerably milder comment was made by another contact who said that a
clear chain of command was needed but, "...you don't need a man beating his
chest."
The nearly opposite view was expressed by a contact who said:
"Yog know the stereotype of Marine Drill Instructor - you don't need those
kinds of abilities up there - you need people with a broad perspective; people
who are interested in enough different things outside their own area of
expertise. I think that would be especially apropos of the Commander of the
mission."

He went on to say, "When you go to autonomy in space and you have

your scientists up there [there are going to be conflicts which the Commander
will have to solve].

You have to be able to compromise, and accommodate all

those kinds of things.

The Commander will have to be real diplomat."

Another contact recommended a strong authoritative Commander, but he has
to be the kind of person who knows how to lead, and "...just to give an order
is not the best way to lead."

But, he said, there also has to be a strong

connand structure.
One man who stated there must be a chain of command suggested that there
night possibly be a Commander for each shift with interaction between them.
He said that the Commander should be not be resistant or blind to suggestion
and inputs from the rest of the crew.

When asked if he would recommend a

military hierarchial system, he replied that he would prefer a NASA
hierarchial system, which he said is not as rigid as the military system.
Another contact also recommended a dual command system, but constructed
around different lines.

He suggested a military Commander and a scientific

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�conmander.

The military Conroander would be in ultimate charge, but as long as

things are going well, he would delegate command to the chief scientist.

He

agreed tha,t this might be somewhat analogous to the relationship that exists
between the Captain of a carrier and his Air Sroup Commander.

The contact

stated that the ultimate responsibility must be assigned to one person.
said, 'You cannot have a voting situation up there."
NOTE:

He

The term "Hilltary Commander" as used above was not meant by the

speaker to imply that he advocated the Space Station be conuianded by a DOD
representative.
Conments:

He used it as a figure of speech.

Most of the respondents focused on the role that the Conmander must

play, and how he must act in exercising that role.

One contact really caught

the significant part of the question and stated that even more important than
the Commander's actions was the need for a strong comaand structure.

It has

been my observation that some Military Commanders get the job done by virtue
of the fact that their subordinates are afraid of them; others because they
are respected:and others because they are idolized.

Regardless of the

Commander's attitude, the job always gets done unless the conmand structure
breaks down.

Even the autocratic Commander gets the job done unless he

attempts to dissolve the command structure.

When he does that, the

organization falls apart and the mission is a failure.
46.

How Hi-Fi should the Space Station simulator be?
This question was given to five people.

Only one recownended that the

simulator have as much fidelity as possible recognizing the limits imposed by
gravity.

Two men felt that a complete simulator, a duplicate Space Station, was not
needed.

Part-task and modular simulation should be adequate.

These were

thought to be especially valuable devices for problem solving.
one man suggested that the Space Station control room should be fairly
well simulated, but the other functions of a Space Station need not be

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�duplicated on the ground.

He suggested a minimum ground training period and

conpletion of training In the Space Station itself under the supervision of
the crew.

He presupposed that only part of the crew, perhaps two out of ten,

would be replaced at any one time.
One man had no comments.
Conments:

The suggestion that part-task and modular simulations should be

adequate seems to be a reasonable approach.

The concept of training after

arriving on station is an interesting one and might be an area for
investigation.
49.

Accommodating diverse groups of people.
Seven people were asked this question.

Two people expressed disapproval

of the concept of taking the "man on the street".

Both of these contacts felt

that, in the foreseeable future, we would be taking selected people.

One

mentioned that we would select them first for their skills, second for their
motivation, and third for their physical and mental health.
mentioned construction workers.

One contact

He thought we would ask for volunteers from

the population of construction workers, then we would select the most skilled
and the most fit.
Three contacts mentioned their opposition to the practice of applying
arbitary age limits.

They felt that the results of a physical examination

should determine a person's fitness to fly, not his age.

One mentioned a Dr.

Vincent in Houston who has a program that is an excellent predictor of mental
acuity.

The respondent thought some of the airlines were using Or. Vincent's

technique.
One stated that we could markedly relax our physical requirements because
there are no stresses in space.
Another felt that most of the problems will be societal, and the Commander
will have to deal with them.

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�Another suggestion was t h a t planning f o r medical c a r e f a c i l i t i e s must take
Into consideration t h a t crew members of t h e f u t u r e may n o t be 1n t h e b e s t of
health o r of optimum age.
Comments;

I was pleased t o hear one of t h e contacts s t a t e t h a t we could

markedly relax our physical requirements because t h e r e a r e no s t r e s s e s In
space.

I do not know. In any g r e a t d e t a i l , what physical l i m i t a t i o n s NASA

places on s e l e c t e e s f o r space f l i g h t , but senators and school t e a c h e r s a r e now
being considered.

From a purely s c i e n t i f i c standpoint 1 t seems reasonable t o

f l y a group of "average" people t o see whether they perform any d i f f e r e n t l y
than the highly selected and superbly f i t persons we have flown In t h e p a s t .
There was r e a l l y no reason f o r s e l e c t i n g t h e cream of t h e crop a f t e r Mercury
and Gemini.

Both of those e a r l y missions had t h e unknown p o s s i b i l i t y of

requiring t h e a b i l i t y t o s u s t a i n hIgh-Q reentry followed by a survival
experience l a s t i n g several days a t sea o r on t h e d e s e r t .
e x t r a o r d i n a r i l y f i t human specimen was required.

Obviously an

We might be surprised t o

find out t h a t the average person who I s accustomed t o a more sedentary l i f e
might even perform I n t e l l e c t u a l t a s k s In space a t l e a s t a s well a s t h e more
f i t person does.
I have not followed up on t h e suggestion t h a t Or. Vincent In Houston be
contacted because of h i s a b i l i t y t o p r e d i c t mental a c u i t y s e p a r a t e from age.
50.

Thoughts regarding s a f e t y hazards.
This question was presented t o nine c o n t a c t s .

nothing t o c o n t r i b u t e .

One said t h e only thing he could t h i n k of was a k i t t o

s e a l meteorold punctures.
redundancy a s p o s s i b l e .

Three s t a t e d t h a t they had

Another suggested only t h a t we build In a s much
One person said t h a t a s i d e from t h e pure vacuum of

space, living In t h e Space Station I s no d i f f e r e n t , from a s a f e t y point of
view, than l i v i n g on Earth.

The hazards a r e t h e same and you p r o t e c t against

them with s t r u c t u r a l design. You c a n ' t p r o t e c t a g a i n s t a l l e v e n t u a l i t i e s .
f e l t compartmentallzatlon w i l l solve many problems.

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He

�Another person made t h e s e f i v e p o i n t s :
1.

Follow e s t a b l i s h e d p r o c e d u r e s .

2.

Have two c u e s t o a p r o b l e m , i . e . , a u d i o and v i s u a l warnings i n

case one o r t h e o t h e r i s m i s s e d .
3.

Eliminate single-point failures.

He s a i d NASA has done a v e ry

?oo(l job of doing t h a t .
4.

When a f a i l u r e d o e s o c c u r , f a l l back t o a s a f e p o s i t i o n

iimediately, and examine t h e f a i l u r e .
5.

Use e x t r a o r d i n a r i l y w e l l - t r a i n e d p e o p l e i n p o s i t i o n s of p r i n c i p a l

responsibility.
One respondent urged t h a t NASA d o c a r e f u l f a i l u r e mode a n a l y s e s , and where
they discover h a z a r d s t h a t t h e crew w i l l have t o l i v e w i t h , t h e n make s u r e t h e
crew i s well t r a i n e d , o r e v e n o v e r t r a i n e d t o d e a l w i t h t h e m .
One of t h e most l e n g t h y and t h o u g h t f u l comments was:
'The hazardous s i t u a t i o n i s a c o m p l i c a t e d one i n which you a r e n o t q u i t e
sure what t o d o .

The s i m p l e r t h e s i t u a t i o n , t h e l e s s d a n g e r t h e r e i s of

screwing i t up.

I t h i n k t h e most i m p o r t a n t t h i n g from t h a t s t a n d p o i n t i n

Space S t a t i o n i s t o c l e a r l y i d e n t i f y and c o l o r - c o d e a l l t h e v a r i o u s p i e c e s of
equipment a t d i f f e r e n t l e v e l s of h a z a r d .

The most s e r i o u s b e i n g r e d , t h e n e x t

yellow, then maybe y e l l o w - a n d - b l a c k s t r i p e s .
now.

B a s i c a l l y l i k e t h e m i l i t a r y does

Mark 'NO STEP' and 'HAND HOLD', and s o f o r t h .

A c o n c e r t e d e f f o r t should

be made t o s e e t h a t we d o n ' t g e t s h a r p c o r n e r s and t h a t s o r t of t h i n g .
"The dangers a r e g o i n g t o be i n t h e p r e s s u r e s u i t p e o p l e w e a r .

With a l o t

of people up t h e r e working around t h e r e i s g o i n g t o be a s u i t p u n c t u r e , o r
swneone i s n o t g o i n g t o p u t t h e w r i s t s e a l on p r o p e r l y and a g l o v e w i l l pop
off.

Those a r e t h e k i n d s of problems we a r e g o i n g t o h a v e .

We a r e n o t going

to have any problems i n s i d e . "
Cowitents:

Of a l l t h e r e s p o n d e n t s , I c o n c u r most c l o s e l y w i t h t h e i n d i v i d u a l

who made t h e f i v e p o i n t s .

They s h o u l d be remembered and p r a c t i c e d by a l l who

have any r o l e i n s a f e t y d e s i g n o r p r a c t i c e s - and t h a t i n c l u d e s n e a r l y
everyone.

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�51.

Suggestions which would help maintain crew h e a l t h .
This question was asked of nine c o n t a c t s .

t o make.

Two s t a t e d they had no comments

Proper n u t r i t i o n o r d i e t was mentioned by t h r e e people, a s was

proper e x e r c i s e .

Recognition t h a t people have t h e same psychological needs In

space as on Earth was mentioned frequently.

One c o n t a c t urged t h a t t h e time

l i n e be structured t o provide time f o r q u i e t r e f l e c t i o n and contemplation.
The b e n e f i t In crew member contributions t o t h e mission w i l l outweigh any cost
In time.

Another said t h a t we must choose s e n s i t i v e . I n t e l l i g e n t people t o

serve on Space S t a t i o n .

You d o n ' t need t h e "machonnan", and b r u t e - f o r c e kind

of people - they should be kept o u t .
One man s t a t e d , "Try t o make I t a s much l i k e a normal c i v i l i a n l i f e a s
possible, recognizing t h a t we're going t o have a connand s t r u c t u r e , and by
t h a t I mean If a guy wants t o have a g l a s s of wine with dinner o r a s h o t of
brandy a f t e r , he ought t o be e n t i t l e d t o do s o .
I t ' s home!"

He's not f l y i n g an a i r l i n e r -

One other man had mentioned t h a t he thought moderate consumption of
alcohol was probably b e n e f i c i a l .

Another man, who I am s u r e would have agreed

with the comments above regarding wine with t h e meals and brandy a f t e r ,
nevertheless warned against what he perceived a s t h e c u r r e n t s o c i a l acceptance
of overindulgence by m i l i t a r y p i l o t s .
s a f e flying t h e next day.

He f e l t t h a t behavior was hazardous t o

The mental health aspects of t h e Space S t a t i o n were considered by another
contact.

He s a i d , "He should allow a routine-enough work c y c l e and approach

t o Space S t a t i o n operations so t h a t If someone does g e t s1ck they can go take
a day off and r e s t .

L e t ' s ease off on t h e work load.

L e t ' s l e t the

astronomers have some time t o j u s t s i t t h e r e and look through t h e telescopes.
Hhat's wrong with t h a t ?
g r e a t Ideas anyway."
Coweents:

T h a t ' s where a l l t h e g r e a t astronomers got a l l t h e i r

Here a g a i n , I was pleased t o s e e t h e emphasis on f a c t o r s

Influ e n c i n g m e n t a l h e a l t h .

If one lesson should have been learned from a l l of

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�our space f l i g h t p r o j e c t s , i t i s t h a t we must guard a g a i n s t overloading the
crew metrtier.

I was most impressed by t h e l a s t comment recorded, " L e t ' s ease

off on the work load.

L e t ' s l e t t h e t h e astronomers have some time t o j u s t

sit there and look through t h e t e l e s c o p e s .

What's wrong with t h a t ?

That's

where a l l the g r e a t astronomers g o t a l l t h e i r g r e a t ideas anyway."
I can only applaud t h a t a d v i c e .
SPONTANEOUS COMMENTS
As stated in t h e s e c t i o n e n t i t l e d METHOD, t h e 51 questions were a c t u a l l y
used only t o s t i m u l a t e d i s c u s s i o n .

Although a g r e a t many comments were

received in response t o t h o s e q u e s t i o n s , t h e r e were some additional statements
•ade either spontaneously o r a s a r e s u l t of thoughts stimulated by t h e
questions.

Some of t h e s e spontaneous statements a r e presented in t h i s s e c t i o n .

1. I t had been several y e a r s , and even decades, since some of t h e contacts
had flown.

One of them opened t h e interview with t h i s statement:

" I t i s i n t e r e s t i n g your coming around doing t h i s .

I commented t o [ h i s

wife] t h i s morning t h a t t h i s i s t h e f i r s t time anybody has asked my opinion
about anything s i n c e t h e day I l e f t NASA.

And, consequently, i t i s of a l o t

less value than i t might have been a year a f t e r I l e f t NASA."
Conments:

In l i g h t of t h e remark made by one c o n t a c t t h a t h i s remarks might

have had more value had he been contacted a year a f t e r leaving t h e program
rather than several years l a t e r might suggest t h a t NASA give consideration t o
establishing a procedure whereby a l l former a s t r o n a u t s would be interviewed a
year or two a f t e r they leave t h e program.

1 f e e l confident t h a t individuals

who are no longer competing f o r a f l i g h t p o s i t i o n , o r who a r e no longer hoping
for advancement i n , o r rewards from, t h e system might well be a very valuable
source of information.

Among t h e t e n people I interviewed, 1 f e l t t h a t some

of there were so long out of t h e program a s t o be of l i t t l e value t o t h i s
project.

On t h e o t h e r hand, some who were more r e c e n t menders of NASA had

•any good conments which t h e y probably would not have made had they been
corepeting f o r f l i g h t assignment.

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�2.

One stated that he feU gymnastics might be a good training procedure,

particularly use of the trampoline, in combatting space motion sickness.
Cowwents;

3.

None.

In view of the fact that EVA astronauts do not appear to use their legs

very much, one contact was asked his opinion regarding a suit without separate
legs. He replied;
•Some of the EVA tasks would require that you anchor your feet somehow,
because that's the way you apply the torque.

If. of course, you have some

umbilical 'belly-button' kind of thing with which you attach yourself rigidly
through your center of gravity, then you could obviously use your arms pretty
well without a foot restraint.

I would kind of think that having your legs

separate would give you much better torque and muscle control."
In response to the same question another contact said•But If you're thinking In terms of a Space Station where you're going to
have to do some manual work with your arms, and you look at the situation
Where you put In a torque motion. I don't know how you would counteract that
without having your feet somehow [stabilized],

speaking of construction work

1n space he said. "It Is In that kind of a mode where I would envision that
you might want [to use your legs].'
Comments:

4.

None.

When speaking of training, one contact mentioned what he called an

advocacy position In training,

it Is sitting down ahead of time and asking

what^one will do If a certain event takes place.

He said:

•Within certain limitations you could take the advocacy role ahead of
time.

It's a 'brain-washing', and I know that's a bad word, but you train to

the point where, when you get there, the actual case Is a piece of cake.
many times It doesn't have to be a hands-on kind of training.

And

You can sit In

a room and discuss what we're going to do If this happens and why do that
one.

But you gotta go through that exercise.

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It's a very Important part of

�getting ready t o go."

The contact then gave two examples from h i s f l i g h t

where f a m i l i a r i t y with the system and procedures saved t h e mission.
Cofiments;

The remarks regarding "advocacy" t r a i n i n g were i n t e r e s t i n g t o me.

The mental exercise of s i t t i n g q u i e t l y alone o r with o n e ' s colleagues and
contemplating possible events and how t o cope with them I s probably an
excellent way t o t r a i n f o r foreseeable e v e n t u a l i t i e s .

Perhaps such t r a i n i n g

methods could be encouraged.
5.

At the close of h i s interview, one contact offered t h e following

independent thought:
"One of t h e t h i n g s I d o n ' t think we're doing t o o w e l l . . . i s designing
things l i k e t h e Space S t a t i o n , taking advantage of t h e r eal and unique
environment.

Using t h e d e l t a temperature and t h e d e l t a pressure a s driving

forces t o some degree in equipment design.

We're s t i l l designing things f o r

here t h a t we then make a l l s o r t s of special precautions t o operate up t h e r e
instead of designing them t o r e a l l y optimize the environment they have t o be
in.

I think when t h a t happens we w i l l have problems t e s t i n g i t down here, but

i t w i n [work b e t t e r up t h e r e . ] "

When asked f o r examples he said t h a t he had

none a t t h e moment.
Comments:
6.

None.

Another contact i n explaining why he thought he did not g e t motion

sickness i n f l i g h t s a i d :
"We would go up and do parabolas in t h e T-38 where we could do between 15
and 23 r o l l s on a given parabola.
with each r o l l .

We put our head i n d i f f e r e n t o r i e n t a t i o n s

I ' d do t h a t maybe twice, and a l l of a sudden t h e sweat would

break out—you'd s i t t h e r e with t h e world going around and you'd t r y t o f l y
s t r a i g h t and level f o r f i v e minutes u n t i l you could g e t t h e world back
together again, then you'd go a t i t a g a i n .
[before t h e f l i g h t ] .

I did t h a t down a t t h e Cape

I got t o where i t r e a l l y took something t o g e t me s i c k .

I d o n ' t know whether i t was t h a t conditioning t h a t helped o r whether i t was
t h a t I was j u s t more n a t u r a l l y r e s i s t a n t than some.

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You can do t h e same thing

�in a swlnwing pool.
nystagmus.*

You can get some pretty high rates—until you get severe

He continued t o cowaent that performing r o l l s In a zero-g parabola and
holding the head in different positions a t the same time was the most
efficient way of producing nystagmus that he knows.

He got t o the point where

he could make the world 'twitch* in any direction depending upon how he held
his head during the r o l l .
£ommsntsj_

NASA might give some thought t o investigating t h e training routine

described by the contact who stated he and his partner executed 15 t o 23 rolls
while in a zero-g parabola, with t h e i r heads in a d i f f e r e n t orientation for
each parabola.

I am astounded a t the piloting s k i l l which t h i s maneuver

requires, but if i t can be done I t might be of value i n anti-motion sickness
training.

I know that aerobatics have been attempted t o t r a i n against motion

sickness, largely without benefit, but t h i s i s the f i r s t I have heard of
stimulating the semicircular canals while in zero-g.
7.

One contact was asked for his ideas regarding the changing crews.

He said

that i t might be necessary t o bring up one o r two s p e c i a l i s t s for short
periods t o perform specific tasks, but he f e l t i t was important t o change the
e n t i r e basic crew a t the same time t o maintain a cohesive u n i t .
Comments:
8.

None.

Another Interesting concluding remark was:
"There i s one other thing I always make a pitch on. and t h a t i s that they

do not realize that people in space f l i g h t o r in zero-gravity condition are no
different than down here.

You have zero gravity and a b e t t e r view, but other

than that you are dealing with the same person and the same working
environment and they can do exactly the same thing they can do down here.

If

a person i s exceptionally good as an observer o r working out something
analytically, or if he i s good a t doing any kind of a detailed task (for
example, a photo interpreter), you can put him up there where he i s looking a t

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�the real thing.

He can do just as good a Job up there as down here.

no reason for not using a person's intellect fully.

There is

So far, the way space

flights have been constructed, they want to dictate everything by checklist
and take away your ability to think.
Coninents;
9.

See comments following Statement 9.

Another man expressed the same thoughts in this way:
"My big 'soap box' effort is the thing about let's not forget who we are

and what our needs are as people, and carry those things with us.

Let's not

lull ourselves into thinking that this is such a special environment that all
the rules change and everything is different, and that people will give up
this and give up that In order to be up there.

They will do it for a ten-day

mission, but they won't do it for ninety days."
He went on to say, "One of the problems we ran into on our mission was
that we forgot to think about those things, and we got ourselves caught up in
a workaday thing where we were working fourteen to sixteen hours a day, and
working strictly following a carrot - following a very precise agenda every
day.

Halfway through the mission we began to get inefficient and made

mistakes.

Me finally recognized our problem and did something about it, and

came out at the end of the mission in good shape.

We finished everything we

were supposed to do and got it all right."
Comments: I commend the two remarks regarding utilization of people for their
capabilities and their human abilities to NASA for serious consideration. I
agree with both comments.

If we are to put people in space we must take

advantage of their capabilities and their "humanness", whatever that is.

He

should recognize the tendency to overschedule and actively correct for that
tendency.
10.

One contact believes that the absence of low-frequency electromagnetic

radiation in space might have some physiological consequences.
this radiation is commonly referred to as Schumann resonance.
this subject he said:

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He said that
Speaking to

�•W1th1n the Ionosphere-Earth surface cavity there is, I think, about an
8-H2

to 32-Hz oscillating field with a series of peaks in that field that is

generated by lightning storms on Earth, but the net result of all that
electromagnetic activity is that we're exposed from conception to death to
this oscillating field, and there is some evidence that if you play with that
field here on Earth, particularly by superimposing a 5-Hz, 4-Hz, or 3-Hz field
on what is already there (and it is very difficult to isolate the individual
from it unless you go underground) and you get some neurological problems.

It

does affect people, and it is probably related to what happens to you when you
get a relatively low-frequency strobe light flashing at you.

A lot of people

feel very very uncomfortable neurologically when that happens.
course, it's absent.

In space, of

Once you get above the ionosphere that field is absent,

and there is some concern among physicists who have a background in
neurophysiology that there might be an instantaneous effect contributing to
the Space Adaptation Syndrome, but they are more concerned about what the
long-term effect may be if the brain actually uses that frquency on occasion
or continuously to reset it's own timing signals in it's central processor.
So, 1 would FLAG that as an unknown."

This contact was also concerned about "intermittent sleep."
could cause difficulty from the standpoint of loss of REH sleep.
sleep is different from simple insomnia.

He felt it
Intermittent

Intermittent sleep is that situation

where a person wakes up and goes back to sleep several times during a sleep
period.

It should cause no problem over short periods, but if continued for

two months or so it might.

It has been noticed in sleep labs on the Earth,

but the contact was of the opinion that it occurs more frequently in space
flight than it does on the Earth.

Comments; I cannot connent on the role of low-frequency electromagnetic
radiation in space and its physiological consequences and I am unaware of
"Schumann Resonance", but I do want to underline this individual's connent as
a possible route of inquiry, which NASA might investigate.

I also am unable

to comment on this same contacts remarks regarding "Intermittent Sleep".

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�11. One man mentioned t h a t he f e l t h i s mind worked b e t t e r i n space.

When

asked t o elaborate on t h a t s u b j e c t he s a i d :
' . . . i t might be j u s t t h a t you a r e doing i t f o r r eal r a t h e r than in
practice.

The f a c t t h a t you're i n 100X oxygen environment - t h a t should allow

you t o perform a l i t t l e b e t t e r .

I think i n a place of reduced g r a v i t y , t h a t

could have a contributing f a c t o r t o o .
including mental.
Cownent;
12.

[There was a ] changed response p a t t e r n ,

That i s p a r t i c u l a r l y t r u e in the weightless s i t u a t i o n . "

None.

One contact mentioned t h a t i t took him four t o f i v e days t o g e t adjusted

to the zero-g environment.

He s a i d t h a t he knew t h a t i f he moved about

Quickly he would become s i c k , s o he moved very slowly and very d e l i b e r a t e l y
until he became accustomed t o t h e environment.
He a l s o mentioned t h a t upon h i s return t o Earth he had " v e r t i g o " .
as if t h e bed was i n c l i n e d about 30 degrees head down.
for about a week.

He f e l t

This sensation lasted

He mentions t h a t he was unable t o c l e a r h i s e a r s during

parachute descent a t t h e end of h i s mission and wonders i f t h a t did not
contribute t o h i s f e e l i n g s of " v e r t i g o " .

He believes i t would have been

interesting t o go through v e s t i b u l a r t e s t i n g during t h a t period, but o t h e r
matters seemed t o occupy t h e time of t h e physicians.
Comments:

The contact who said i t took him four t o f i v e days t o g e t adjusted

t o the zero-g environment was t h e only one of t h e group t h a t admitted t o even
the l e a s t t r o u b l e .

I found i t i n t e r e s t i n g t h a t he experienced a head-down

sensation a f t e r return t o Earth.

I would have expected him t o experience a

head-down sensation in f l i g h t due t o migration of f l u i d t o t h e head and a
head-up sensation upon return t o Earth.
13.

Several s u b j e c t s mentioned d i f f i c u l t y sleeping i n f l i g h t .

The consensus

seemed t o be t h a t f r e e - f l o a t i n g s l e e p was not comfortable o r r e s t f u l .

One man

mentioned t h a t i n o r d e r t o g e t a comfortable n i g h t ' s s l e e p , t h e head and hands
have t o be r e s t r a i n e d t o prevent them from moving about i n random fashion.

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�Coimients; I believe this last remark regarding the unsatisfactory nature of
unrestrained or free-floating sleep has been made before, so It requires no
further Investigation, but should be kept In mind when sleep restraints In the
Space Station crew quarters are being designed.

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�APPENDIX A
1.

Flight Crew Health Stabilization Program;
Discuss in context of SS vs Skylab, Apollo, and STS.
Worthwhile?
Retain?
Eliminate?
Modify?

2.

Do you have any thoughts on facilitating SS maintenance activities of the

crew?
3.

Discuss alarm systems:
False alarms.
Lights.
Horns.
Voice.
Tactile.

4.

Any thoughts as to tools for on-orbit repair and maintenance?
Including "work bench", location, equipment, etc.

5.

What about food and meals?
A11 eat same foods on same days?
Individually selected menu?
Suggested changes/improvements.

6.

Any suggestions regarding trash disposal?

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�7.

Any thoughts on clothing design?
One piece c o v e r a l l s v s . pants and s h i r t ?
Pocket l o c a t i o n , design, closure?
Off-duty and on-duty.

Any d i f f e r e n c e ?

Special clothing f o r e x e r c i s e ?
What kind of sleepwear would you choose?
Any personal Items of c l o t h i n g f o r you?
8.

Suggestions a s t o personal hygiene equipment.

9.

Aids t o t r a n s f e r of massive o b j e c t s .

1 0 . Skylab crews found t h a t they o r i e n t e d t o t h e f l o o r In small compartments,
but t r a n s l a t e d h e a d - f i r s t in large compartments.

Does t h i s Influence your

thinking In regard t o I d e n t i f i c a t i o n of "up" and "down"?

Would visual

o r i e n t a t i o n cues a s t o "up" o r "down" be helpful o r harmful?
[At l e a s t one Skylab crew member reported t h a t he always o r i e n t e d down
towards h i s f e e t . ]
n . What about using vented gases f o r a t t i t u d e c o n t r o l , o r what about using
opposing vents t o cancel any e f f e c t from venting?
1 2 . What I s the Importance of p r i v a t e coniminlcatlons with o p e r a t i o n s s t a f f ,
medical s t a f f , f r i e n d s , and r e l a t i v e s ?
1 3 . Some Skylab crew members reported t h a t p o r t a b l e f ans were of l i t t l e use
f o r crew comfort, but were useful f o r equipment c o o l i n g .

Others reported that

they a r e u s e f u l , e s p e c i a l l y t o cool a person during and a f t e r e x e r c i s e .
I s your opinion?
1 4 . Oo you have any Ideas concerning:
Translation a i d s ?
Control/switch p r o t e c t i v e devices?
Orientation cues?
Protective devices f o r personal wear (helmets, g l o v e s , e t c . )

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What

�15. Skylab crew's coimients about the airlock Included such remarks as:
It was too small for two crewmen.
Insufficient stowage volume. "Like a rat's nest during EVA.'
Lack of foot restraints.
Poor location;
-Between Multiple Docking Adapter and Orbital Workshop.
-In mainstream of traffic.
-Failure of any one of three hatches would be cause for mission
abort or even catastrophic situation (EVA crewman being trapped
outside).
OUESTIOMS: Here any of these problems present on STS?
What suggestions have you for Space Station?
16. Any Ideas about the Individual crew quarters?
Location.
General arrangement:
(1) Size (Skylab nominal was 28 In. x 38 In. x 78 In.).
(2) Restraints.
(3) Stowage.
Noise.
Lighting.
Temperature.
Ventilation.
What kind of sleep restraint?
Should washing and toilet facilities be Included?
-Cofflode?
-Urinal?
-Both?
What about shift occupancy?
Communications?
Warning signals?

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�17. How much medical training should crew members have?
Equivalent to CNT?
More?

Less?

18. Oo you believe crew members should engage in 'group dynamics* training
before being assigned to SS?

Should one CH be trained in this discipline?

19. Should families be given similar psychological training and support?
20. What about crew interaction training in a one-g simulator?
21. How much of a problem is ambient noise?
22. Wardroom:
What suggestions for entertainment?
Will external viewing be of great importance from a recreational
standpoint?
Is It Important that the Earth appear "down"?
23. Discuss body waste collection and disposal.
24. Personal cleanliness.
Shaving.
Haircuts.
Showers.
25. Exercise.
What kind?
26. How best to manage books and manuals.
Should everything be in data banks with CRT display?
27. Han/machine interfaces.
Brightness.
Shape, color, texture.

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�28. Three shifts or one (or two)?
All sleep at the same time?
How long a work day?

Eight hours?

Hore?

Less?

Should work time Include one to two hours of exercise, or should all
exercise be performed In off-duty time?
29. How Important would be real-time TV, Including network news?
30. l&gt;/ho should select the crew?
What Input should crew members have In regard to crew composition?
31. Does EVA require "buddy system" or can one person do It alone with
monitoring from the Inside?
32. How can the EVA suit be Improved?
Urine collection.
Fecal collection.
Provision for food and water.
Vomiting.
33. EVA
Restraints and tethers.
Hand and foot holds.
Lighting.

Helmet mounted?

Tools.
34. With a twenty-one-day rescue time at worst, do you have any suggestions
regarding mortuary services?
35. What about foot restraints at the work station?
Locking grid and shoe.
Stirrups.
Clangs.
Velcro.
Other.

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�36. Loconotlon aids.
Lines, slldewlres.
Distributed handles.
Other.
37. What about body restraints for tasks requiring extreme steadiness?
3B. Any thoughts on artificial gravity?
Need.
Methods.
Rotating SS.
Tether.
Continuous or Intermittent?
39. What about autonomy?
Is "control" by NCC a pain, or Is It reassuring?
40. Would a miniature helmet-mounted TV to record EVA activities be useful?
41. What about an ELV rescue capability?
capsules.

For example, a Titan with reentry

42. How can man-on-board reduce redundancy?
43. Any Ideas for design of a safe haven for two to three weeks' occupancy?
44. What about EVA?
Use only for contingency?
Use for contingency and major tasks only?
Design for and use routinely?
45. On-board command structure:
Strong, authoritative Comnander with clear chain of command?
Participative management?
Coenlttee decision making?

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�46. How H1-F1 should the SS simulator be?
47. Is the orbiter overdesigned for safety?
Can safety requirements be relaxed for SS?

Any examples?

48. Any suggestions as to docking techniques or aids?
Proximity operations.
Approach corridors.
Plume impingement considerations.
Others.
49. In the future many diverse groups of people will have to participate in
Space Station activities.

For many of these people—scientists, construction

workers, and so forth—there will be no arbitrary age limit.
Can you think of any investigations that should be performed now, either
to select those persons or to accommodate them in flight?
50. Do you have any thoughts as regards safety hazards?
51. Do you have any suggestions as to measures that would help maintain crew
health?

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��National Aeronautics and
Space Administration

APPENDIX B

Ames Research Center
Moffett Field. California 94035

rUASA

aeiirioAdnai: LMA:239-2

Dear Space Missioa Participant:

The purpose of this letter is to introduce Dr« William K« Douglas and a
project that he is conducting under the sponsorship of NASA's Anes
Research Center.
The Ames Man-Vehicle Systems Research Division under its Space Human Fac­
tors Office is in the process of planning research that will help to as­
sure high levels of crew effectiveness on future space missions, including
NASA's proposed space station. Several expected differences between the
space station and previous missions suggest that such research is warrant­
ed. Such differences include more heterogeneity of crew members in back­
ground and experience, broader variety of work requirements (including
more EVA), larger crews, and longer durations.
To accommodate some of these changes, plans and designs are being
developed for configurations of the total station, individual modules, and
work stations, as well as for habitability Issues and operational pro­
cedures.
In many cases the appropriate design or plan for promoting and
maintaining effective crew performance under the changing conditions is
unknown. Numerous cases involving new designs for work stations and habi­
tats have been documented, in which serious performance problems have ar­
isen because of either the lack of human factors information or the
failure to incorporate available information.
The Division has been active for several years in research to support the
aviation community in developing methods for avoiding such errors in
design, and operations. One of the more valuable sources of Information
that has directed our research activities has been the Aviation Safety Re­
porting System (ASRS), which we direct (through a contract, under the
sponsorship of the FAA).
The system solicits voluntary comments and
recommendations from pilots and air traffic controllers that concern any
procedural problems encountered in the aviation system, and how these
might be corrected. The reports are completely deidentified to insure
anonymity of the reporter.
Publication of the obtained information is
generally in the form of a report that synthesises Individual comments and
recommendations related to some particular Issue.
Information such as that generated by the ASRS has proven of value, not
only by indicating problems that require research for their solution, but
by Indicating when research is unnecessary, either because Information is
available to effect a solution, research is already in progress, or the

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�problem Is not amenable to research. When research has been prescribed,
the value of Its product has been enhanced significantly by the direction
received from such information.
The project being conducted by Dr. Douglas Is consistent with the intent
and spirit of the ASRS. We are convinced that the experience of partici­
pants in previous space missions can form the basis for cogent recommenda­
tions for design, operations, and appropriate research relevant to future
space missions, similarly to our experience in aviation.
Therefore, we
have asked Dr. Douglas to solicit thoughts regarding apace station design
and operational requirements. The information obtained will be used to
help us (and others) supply guidelines to designers, and to discover
inadequacies in available knowledge that Indicate a need for further
research.
Dr. Douglas has contacted you as part of that process.
Dr. Douglas was
the first flight surgeon for the Mercury astronauts. We sought his assis­
tance in this project because of his reputation for sensitivity, objec­
tivity, general knowledge of and appreciation for the human in space mis­
sions, and his acquaintance with many members of the astronaut corps.
We are requesting your participation because of our sincere interest in
helping to assure a high level of effectiveness for future manned space
missions. Dr. Douglas' approach will be informal.
He will ask you a
series of questions designed to focus your consideration of design and
operational Issues, which we judge are important to the success of future
missions.
In your answers to the questions we are asking you to project
from your experience to the expected conditions on a space station.
We are not interested in documenting or reporting problems, either person­
al or general, from past missions. Rather, we are asking for your judg­
ment of where impediments to task performance, motivation, morale, etc.
could arise; what changes in design and operations would you recommend,
based on your experience and expected mission differences.
Dr. Douglas will be assisted on the project by Mr. Donald K. (Deke) Slayton, whom you may know personally. Mr. Slayton's experience and knowledge
should be of great assistance to Dr. Douglas in interpreting and syn­
thesizing the information, and producing a useful report.
Please be assured, should you elect to participate, that the information
obtained by Dr. Douglas will be completely deidentified from you as the
source. Not only will your individual anonymity be assured with respect
to specific information that you volunteer, but the identity of those per­
sons interviewed will not be revealed by Dr. Douglas or Mr. Slayton.

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��1 fttcori No.
NASA CR-3942
4. Titlf and SuMiM

2. Geynwuwi HICHDH NO.

Human Performance Issues Arising From Manned Space
Station Missions
J

Autttorlll

3. Reopant't Cralog No.
&amp; Report Dite
October 1986
e. Performing Orgeniotlon Code
8. Perfornung Or^izabon Report No.

William K. Douglas
9. ^lormina Orfonitation Nama and Addras
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                    <text>MSFC'S ROLE IN THE SKYLAB REACTIVATION MISSION
INTRODUCTION
ide 1
On July 11, 1979, Skylab impacted the Earth surface. The debris dispersion
area stretched from the South Eastern Indian Ocean across a sparsely
populated section of Western Australia.

This presentation discusses

in some detail the events leading to the reentry of Skylab and the role
the Marshall

Space Flight Center played in these events.

BACKGROUND
On February 9, 1974, Skylab systems were configured for a final power
down and Skylab was deactivated.

Prediction of solar cycle 20 activity,

the solar cycle predicted to begin in 1977, indicated that the final
attitude in which Skylab was left, the gravity gradient attitude, would
result in a potential storage period of 8 to 10 years. However, in the
fall of 1977 it was determined that Skylab had left the gravity gradient
attitude and was experiencing an increased orbital decay rate. This
was a result of greater than predicted solar activity at the beginning
of solar cycle 21.

This increased activity increased the drag forces

on the vehicle. Skylab was not predicted to reenter the Earth's atmos­
phere in late 1978 or early 1979 unless something was done to reduce
the drag forces acting upon it.

It was necessary to make a decision to

either accept an early uncontrolled reentry of Skylab or to attempt to
actively control Skylab in a lower drag attitude thereby extending its
orbital lifetime until a Shuttle mission could effect a boost or deorbit
maneuver with Skylab.

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S^3e 1A (leave up)
In order to verify what options could be accomplished with the onboard
Skylab systems, a small team of NASA engineers went to the Bermuda Ground
Station to establish communications and interrogate Skylab systems. On
March 6, 1978, the Airlock Module (AM) command and telemetry (TM) systems
were commanded on from the Bermuda Ground Station.

The reception of

t"he AM TM carrier at Bermuda was proof that the onboard AM system had
responded to the commands.

For the next several days, the AM electrical

power system was properly configured and the AM batteries charged whenever
the simultaneous conditions of ground station coverage at Bermuda and
solar energy availability permitted.

Subsequently AM power was trans­

ferred to the Apollo Telescope Mount (ATM) systems and the operational
status of the ATM systems was determined.

On March 11, 1978, power was

^applied to the ATM Attitude and Pointing Control System (APCS) bus which
in turn supplied power to the primary Apollo Telescope Mount Digital
Computer (ATMDC)/Workshop Computer Interface Unit (WCIU).

Power was

maintained on the APCS bus for approximately 5 minutes and the receipt
of ATMDC telemetry data at Bermuda was confirmed. The receipt of fcbi'fiC
data~irid±cated thatrthe primary ATMDC/WCIU hardware and attendant .soft­
ware were operational and cycling. On March 13, 1978, engineers concluded
the interrogation test on Skylab. The resulting data indicated no
discernible degradation of the Skylab systems during its 4 years of
—

orbital storage. Aided with this data,(the knowledge that Skylab was in
an unstable tumble prompted investigation into schemes which might extend
the orbital lifetime of Skylab.

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Scheme Development and Operational Modes March 1978 to July 1979

The first scheme investigated was to use the onboard Thruster
Attitude Control System (TACS) to maintain a quasi-stable tumble
of Skylab.

However, it was soon determined that this option

would not extend Skylab lifetime sufficiently to correspond to
the operational readiness of the Space Shuttle for a possible
reboost or deorbit mission.

The only alternative left was to

reactivate and continuously control the Skylab in a minimum drag
attitude.
Slide 2

In order to accomplish this the End On Velocity Vector

(EOVV) minimum drag attitude control scheme was developed by MSEC
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The EOVV mode was a minimum drag attitude with the relatively
small surface areas of the front or back ends of Skylab being
pointed approximately along the velocity vector. This mode was
a modification of the Z Local Vertical (ZLV) mode (vehicle "Z"
axis along the local vertical) that was used during the original
Skylab Mission. fe-rte^e¥V-™rfer^^«W^^rdinat«-axe8
were r,ffs«^iightiy^om_theJLV^xes-d:o-align-the- vehicle-principle
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�T h e r e w e r e two s u b s e t s o f t h e EOVV mode, EOVV A a n d EOVV B.
The EOVV B mode c a n b e t h o u g h t o f a s a b a c k w a r d EOVV A mode.
The EOW A mode h a d t h e S k y l a b Command M o d u l e d o c k i n g p o r t
p o i n t e d a l o n g t h e v e l o c i t y v e c t o r w h i l e t h e EOW B mode h a d t h e
aft end of the workshop pointed along the velocity vector. The
EOVV B mode w a s d e v e l o p e d t o p r o l o n g t h e l i f e o f CMG # 2 by
a l l o w i n g maximum s o l a r i m p i n g e m e n t o n CMG # 2 s p i n b e a r i n g s f o r
n e g a t i v e s u n a n g l e s . F o r t h e same r e a s o n , EOW A was u t i l i z e d
when t h e v e h i c l e e x p e r i e n c e d p o s i t i v e s o l a r a n g l e s .
The EOVV mode w a s u s e d i n t h e f i r s t p a r t o f t h e S k y l a b
R e a c t i v a t i o n M i s s i o n t o r e d u c e a s much a s p o s s i b l e t h e S k y l a b
d e s c e n t r a t e . I t was h o p e d t h a t t h e o r b i t a l l i f e o f S k y l a b
c o u l d b e e x t e n d e d u n t i l a r e b o o s t / d e o r b i t m i s s i o n by t h e S p a c e
S h u t t l e c o u l d b e l a u n c h e d . T h e e f f e c t o f t h e EOVV mode o n t h e
d e s c e n t r a t e i s shown i n t h e n e x t v i e w g r a p h ( S l i d e 3 )
T h e r e was a n o t i c e a b l e s l o w i n g down o f t h e S k y l a b f a l l when EOVV
was e n t e r e d J u n e 1 1 , 1 9 7 8 .

I t was e s t i m a t e d t h a t i f S k y l a b h a d

r e m a i n e d i n EOVV t h a t r e e n t r y c o u l d h a v e b e e n d e l a y e d u n t i l a t
lide 3

lease April of 1980.
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It should be noted that transitions from the

o l d S k y l a b o p e r a t i o n a l modes ( S I , ZLV, e t c . ) t o t h e s e new o p e r a t i o n a l
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m o d e s ^ r e q u i r e d many h o u r s o f e q u a t i o n a n d s c h e m e d e v e l o p m e n t , s o f t ­
ware implementation and verification, the generation of computer

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uplink loads and their verification, and finally close
surveillance of vehicle operation once the operational mode
was activated to insure that the vehicle responded as the theory
p r e d i c t e d i t w o u l d . N u m e r o u s m e e t i n g s w e r e h e l d w i t h i n MSFC
a n d J S C a n d a t NASA H e a d q u a r t e r s t o e n s u r e a l l l e v e l s o f NASA
Management approved and agreed with proposed Skylab operations.
For example, between January 1978 and the i n i t i a l Skylab SI
acquisition on June 9, 1978, four Skylab presentations were made
to Mr. Yardley, one to Dr. Frosch, and two to other headquarters
personnel.

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a transition from SOW A to SI occurred

This was necessary because of abnormal momentum s t a t e s

w h i c h c o u l d l e a d t o CMC g i m b a l s t o p p r o b l e m s . T h e p r o b l e m w a s
eventually traced to the inability of the strapdown updating
scheme to compensate f o r the movement of the i n e r t i a l reference,
particularly at high sun angles.

When t h i s w a s u n d e r s t o o d , a

strapdown update bias term was successfully used to compensate
for the observed Z axis drift due to orbit plane and sun motion.
On J u l y 6

the vehicle was again returned t o the EOW-A a t t i t u d e .

On J u l y 9 t o t a l v e h i c l e c o n t r o l w a s l o s t i n c l u d i n g a t t i t u d e
reference. The cause of t h i s loss of a t t i t u d e was due to a power
f a i l u r e . The vehicle had been placed in a power configuration
w i t h t h e AM b a t t e r i e s n o t o n t h e l i n e d u e t o t w o u n e x p l a i n e d
b a t t e r y c h a r g e r f a i l u r e s i n t h a t s y s t e m . T h e ATM p o w e r s y s t e m a n d
^

t h e AM s o l a r a r r a y s w e r e n o t s u f f i c i e n t t o c a r r y t h e l o a d i n t h e
EOVV m o d e c a u s i n g t h e ATM b a t t e r i e s t o a u t o m a t i c a l l y t r i p o f f
line.

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u n c o n t r o l l e d a t t i t u d e t o S I A (Uuly 1 9 ) a n d t h e n t o t h e EOVV-A
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EOW-A t o EOVV-B T r a n s i t i o n
On November 4 , 1 9 7 8 , S k y l a b w a s m a n e u v e r e d 1 8 0 d e g r e e s f r o m
i t s n o r m a l EOW o r i e n t a t i o n w i t h t h e MDA p o i n t i n g t o w a r d t h e
p o s i t i v e v e l o c i t y v e c t o r (EOW-A) t o a new EOW o r i e n t a t i o n w i t h
t h e MDA p o i n t i n g t o w a r d t h e n e g a t i v e v e l o c i t y v e c t o r ( E O W - B ) .
The p u r p o s e o f t h i s m a n e u v e r was t o i n c r e a s e t h e p r o b a b i l i t y f o r
extended Skylab lifetime by providing the most favorable thermal
c o n d i t i o n s , i n EOW o p e r a t i o n , t o r e d u c e t h e s t r e s s o n CMG 2 .
A n a l y s i s o f S k y l a b d a t a a t MSFC o b t a i n e d d u r i n g EOW o p e r a t i o n u p
t o t h i s t i m e showed a r e l a t i o n s h i p b e t w e e n t h e o c c u r r e n c e o f CMG 2
a n o m a l i e s , t h e s u n a n g l e , a n d t h e o p e r a t i n g t e m p e r a t u r e o f CMG
1i d e 4

2 (Slide 4).

This data indicated that the stress conditions on

CMG 2 c o u l d b e a v o i d e d o r r e d u c e d b y p r o v i d i n g a h i g h e r o p e r a t i n g
t e m p e r a t u r e e n v i r o n m e n t f o r CMG 2 .

The EOW-A o r i e n t a t i o n

p r o v i d e d m o r e s o l a r e x p o s u r e f o r CMG 2 a t p o s i t i v e s u n a n g l e s
w h i l e a n EOW-B o r i e n t a t i o n w o u l d p r o v i d e m o r e s o l a r e x p o s u r e
lide 2

a t n e g a t i v e s u n a n g l e s a s shown i n S l i d e 2 .
The 1 8 0 ^ t r a n s i t i o n m a n e u v e r was s c h e d u l e d f o r e a r l y November
1978 to coincide with the upcoming positive-to-negative change in
s u n a n g l e ( i . e . , s u n a n g l e movement f r o m N o r t h t o S o u t h o f t h e
orbit plane).

A modification to the flight software had to be

d e v e l o p e d (SWCR-S4016, b u f f e r 1 5 ) a n d was i m p l e m e n t e d t o a c c o u n t
f o r c o m p u t a t i o n a l d i f f e r e n c e s a s s o c i a t e d w i t h t h e EOW-A a n d

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EOVV-B orientations and to automate maneuver sequencing to
support the transition maneuvers.
Slide 5

The transition maneuver sequence was developed and simulated,
based on available station coverage (Slide 5) to minimize TACS
utilization and to provide favorable conditions for initiation
of EOVV-B operations.
Normal and contingency procedures to support the transition
maneuver were developed and executed from 11/2/78 through
11/4/78 with the transition maneuver taking place on 11/4/78 as
the sun angle passed through zero. It should be noted that trh^P
design and simulation effort enabled the maneuver plan to be
executed for no TACS usage, saving this limited resource for
future operations.

Skylab remained in the EOW-B attitude from November 4, 1978
until January 25, 1979.

During this time, all Skylab systems

functioned satisfactorily.
After Skylab was brought under active control, in a low-drag
attitude to minimize its rate of decay, it was decided in mid-1978
to accelerate the development of an orbital retrieval system
that might be accommodated on an early flight of the Space
Shuttle,

increasing chances of rendezvousing with Skylab.

A proposed mission sequence with the Skylab boost/deboost
51ide 6

options is shown in Slide 6.

�8
The rate of orbital decay, however, continued to increase due
to increased solar activity.

Skylab's onboard systems also

showed signs of deterioration and there were increasing concerns
over the Space Shuttle's schedule.

For these reasons, the

concept of Skylab recovery was terminated in December 1978.
At that time, it was decided to reorient and control the vehicle
in a solar inertial attitude which was the normal vehicle
orientation for original Skylab mission operations.
accomplished January 25, 1979.

This was

The vehicle remained in

SI control until June 20 when TEA control was activated.
TEA Control
As Skylab's altitude decreased, the magnitude of the aerodynamic
torques on the vehicle increased. Studies/indicated that vehicle
control in the solar inertial orientation would no longer be
possible below about 140 n.m. due to these increased aerodynamic
torques and the limited control authority available from the
Vehicle Control Moment Gyros (CMG's).

Aerodynamicists and

control engineers at the Marshall Space Flight Center (MSFC),
while investigating vehicle orientations which produced minimal
disturbance torques on the vehicle, found certain orientations
where the summation of these disturbance torques was zero.
These attitudes were called Torque Equilibrium Attitudes (TEA s).
A TEA attitude control law was developed to utilize these zero
torque points.

This control law was unique because it was the

first spacecraft control scheme which used upper atmospheric

�9
aerodynamic torques to desaturate CMG momentum.

In the normal SI

Skylab mode, CMG momentum was managed by dumping excess momentum
using gravity gradient torques.

In a TEA attitude, the

aerodynamic torques and gravity gradient torques are equal and
opposite. By offsetting the vehicle slightly from this attitude,
the relative magnitudes of the gravity gradient and aerodynamic
torques can be increased or decreased as desired to maintain
the CMG momentum at the desired state.

Through a concentrated

effort at MSFC, the TEA control law was developed, programmed
and verified between January and May 1979.
There were several TEA attitudes and each resulted in different
atmospheric drag on the vehicle. The limiting factors in
maintaining control were meeting the electric power requirements
and being in a dense enough atmosphere to generate the desired
aerodynamic torques. Most of the TEA attitudes were unuseable
because the Skylab solar arrays could not collect sufficient
solar energy to run the various Skylab systems in the specified
attitude. Other attitudes could be used only during a range of
certain sun angles and below certain altitudes. Two of the
7

useable attitudes, the T275 and T121G are shown in Slide 7.
The T275 attitude has a smaller projection of surface area into
the direction of flight and a corresponding lower atmospheric
drag than the T121G attitude. By maneuvering between TEA
attitudes the drag on the vehicle could be modulated to slow or
speed the desired descent rate of Skylab. This provided the
capability to shift the reentry time several orbits if necessary.

�Based on early reentry predictions of mid-June 1979, initial
procedures were developed to begin TEA operations in the T121G
attitude on May 26, 1979.

At this time the vehicle altitude

was predicted to be approximately 150 n.m. and the sun angle profile
such that the T121G attitude would supply sufficient solar power
from this point to the predicted reentry. However, as the time
approached, it became apparent that Skylab was not reentering
as fast as predicted and reentry slipped to early July 1979.
As a result of this delay in reentry, a maneuver from T121G
to T121P or T275 would be required to provide sufficient power
over the sun angle range from 20 of May to reentry. Because of
this, and the fact that Skylab would be around 157 n.m. on
May 26, it was decided to delay TEA operations and stay in SI
control until late June 1979.

In the June 18-20 time frame,

Skylab altitude would be approaching its lower limit for SI
control (140 n.m.) and the sun angle would be such that the T121P
(Slide 8) attitude would provide sufficient power all the way to
reentry.
In addition to requiring only one TEA orientation for solar
power, this delay provided additional benefits. More time was
available for TEA control analysis; development of procedures
for power management, rate gyro bias compensation, TEA parameter
updating, and contingencies; and ground controller training.
Ori—May—2ff,—the alt ifu"de~"af"the vehicle was! approximately 160

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Skylab-could be-controlled in the SI~ mode only until.

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TEA Control Reacquisition
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To support the normal maintenance of TEA control, t-he~ slope
matrix was programmed to receive updates by ground uplink. This
was a 3 by 3 matrix relating the momentum errors to attitude
errors about the torque equilibrium attitude. This slope matrix
was a function of atmospheric density and the TEA attitude.
Since atmospheric density was increasing with the vehicle
descent, the slope matrix required periodic adjustment.
At 16:13 GMT on June 24, the first slope matrix update since TEA
acquisition was uplinked. However, the flight program required
that the slope matrix elements be commanded in row order, but it
was uplinked from the ground in column order. This meant that
the elements in the slope matrix were reversed and the flight
program had actually received the transpose of the desired
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matrix. With an incorrect slope matrix, the vehicle cannot
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properly manage the CMG momentum and wifd slowly lose attitude
control.
The first pass through the TEA control calculations with the
transposed slope matrix occurred after the telemetry station was
lost. There was no indication of a problem until the next
station acquisition occurred at 17:44 GMT. The telemetry data
from this station showed that the CMG momentum was becoming
saturated, TEA control parameters were off-nominal, TACS had
been used and that, in general, TEA control authority was being
lost. An analysis of the DCS commands issued during the previous
pass was made and it was discovered that the transpose of the
slope matrix had been transmitted.

�13

A contingency TEA control reacquisition procedure had been
previously developed for use during the initial TEA control
acquisition. Although this contingency procedure was developed
assuming that TEA control might be lost due to an offset in the
assumed X axis center of pressure, it also applied to the
current situation. The commands necessary for the procedure
were already resident at the ground stations and were readily
available.

The reacquisition procedure was executed when the

next station coverage occurred over Madrid.
The entire process of losing TEA control and reacquiring TEA
control used approximately 1100 lb f-sec of TACS fuel. Although
this fuel usage

had been unplanned, there was still sufficient

fuel remaining for any required maneuvers prior to reentry.

�14

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amount of reentry control capability.

Procedures to maneuver

Skylab from the high-drag T121P attitude to a low-drag
(T275)

or ZLV attitude were developed to provide a means o

prion By maintaining a low-drag
shifting the reentry predrctron. y
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As it turned out, only T121P control was required.

NORAD data

received between the 48 and 18-hour-to-go time points indicated
that Skylab would reenter during the minimum population density
orbit, but the predicted impact point was in the highest
population density area of the orbit.
This was reconfirmed at the 12-hour time-to-go point. The
decision was therefore to continue the T121P attitude until
altitude of approximately 80 n.m., at which point the vehicle
control was finally terminated when Skylab was commanded to
tumble approximately 9 hours before reentry.

(Reentry took

place on July 11, 1979, at 16:37 - 28 GMT.) The vehicle tumble
Slide /O

decreased the vehicle drag and by selection of the time before
entry to initiate the tumble, an extension of the footpring
by approximately one quarter of a revolution was realized.

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FINAL COMMENTS
D u r i n g b o t h t h e p r i m a r y a n d r e a c t i v a t i o n m i s s i o n s , many S k y l a b
s y s t e m s w e r e r e q u i r e d t o o p e r a t e i n modes n e v e r i n t e n d e d b y i t s
designers and to accomplish tasks dictated by unforseen events.
T h e S k y l a b r e a c t i v a t i o n m i s s i o n o f f e r e d NASA a u n i q u e o p p o r t u n i t y
to evaluate complex power generation, mechanical, computer and
environmental control systems after having been in a space
environment for over six years. Further, these systems were in
orbital storage for over four of the six years in an uncontrolled
s p a c e e n v i r o n m e n t b e f o r e b e i n g r e a c t i v a t e d i n March 1 9 7 8 . S y s t e m
degradation was found to be minimal.
U n i q u e c o n t r o l s c h e m e s w e r e d e v e l o p e d (EOW a n d TEA) w h i c h e n a b l e d
Skylab to fly through the gravity gradient/aerodynamic torque
transition region. Torque equilibrium points were discovered
where gravity gradient and aerodynamic torques balanced. At
these points very l i t t l e vehicle control authority was required to
maintain control. Moreover, vehicle orientations at these points
were such that one could choose attitudes exhibiting high or low
v e h i c l e - d r a g c h a r a c t e r i s t i c s . By m o d u l a t i n g b e t w e e n t h e s e
orientations, the rate of vehicle descent could be increased or
decreased, forcing i t into an impact orbit characterized by a low
population density.

After control of Skylab was regained in

June 1978, a t an a l t i t u d e of 218 nautical miles, the vehicle was
e s s e n t i a l l y u n d e r c o n t r o l down t o a p p r o x i m a t e l y 8 0 n a u t i c a l m i l e s
b e f o r e i t w a s commanded t o r e e n t r y . ( R e e n t r y t o o k p l a c e o n
J u n e 1 1 , 1 9 7 9 , a t 1 6 : 3 7 - 2 8 GMT.)

The vehicle tumble decreased

�17
the vehicle drag and by selection of the time before entry
to initiate the tumble, an extension of the footpring by
approximately one quarter of a revolution was realized.

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                    <text>L I V I N G

NASA
PROJECTS
APOLLO
SATURN
SKYLAB
SHUTTLE

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�The documentary archive described in this catalogue
will be sold as a single lot by auction at Sotheby's
in their Large Galleries 34/35 New Bond Street, W1A 2AA
[Telephone 01-493 8080 Telex: London 24454 SPBLONG)
at approximately 8 p.m. on Monday 20th July 1981
All enquiries about this sale should be made to the Manuscript
Department
Sold subject to conditions printed in the main catalogue
In sending commissions this catalogue may be referred to
as "Shuttle"
Front cover designed by Raymond Loewy

�S • T H E B Y ' S

��Raymond Loewy and Living in Space
Significance of Space Exploration and of its History
With the successful mission of the first re-useable Space Shuttle, code-named Columbia, from
12 to 14 April 1981, man's vision of living in space was given practical reality and assured of a future. The
Shuttle marks a new era in space exploration and in the history of mankind.
The potential benefits arising from this momentous event are virtually limitless, but already it is
envisaged Cand the first 60 flights are already committed] that payloads of regular Shuttles will establish:
• journeys into orbit as routine as commercial airline flights with Shuttles operating under their own
power without the necessity of lift-off boosters
• military communications, navigation, weather and surveillance satellites ["the nation that controls
space will control the world"]
• the construction of a giant 96-inch telescope operating high above the distorting effects of the
atmosphere enabling astronomers for the first time to see any planets around nearby stars, to
observe objects 100 times dimmer than those that can be seen through ground-based telescopes
and perhaps also to detect light emanating from the very edge of the visible universe, which will
contribute to our understanding of evolution and the origin of life
• the construction of space platforms and even of space colonies with space nations under their own
governments, flags and laws
• the construction of the European spacelab
• a network of permanently located satellites able to destroy enemy atomic missies
• the return of raw materials from space and the extraction of unlimited energy from the Sun
• the solar polar mission
• a new industrial revolution: the development of virtual vacuum-free technosphere manufacturing
plants free of gravity, thus making possible, for instance, the production of an estimated 400 alloys
from metals that do not successfully mix under the pull of Earth's gravity which tends to separate
the lighter metals from the heavier ones; the manufacture of perfect ball-bearings: stable foams;
crystals of new semi-conductor materials: and super-pure vaccines and drugs produced in totally
antiseptic conditions.

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success of the Columbia Shuttle will also refocus attention on all aspects of the development
of the Shuttle and its forerunners as subjects for academic investigation and exhibition in museums and
industrial centres.

��The Raymond Loewy Files
The present collection - from the files of Raymond Lcewy, NASA's official Habitability Consultant
from 1967 to 1973 - is a unique and fundamental record relating to the first steps in manned utilization of
space and the birth of space exploration. It contains material that NASA itself does not have, such as the
original drawings and sketches and the abandoned and experimental designs, or which, as a government
agency, it is not at liberty to release. However, under American Government regulations all drawings,
documents, blue-prints, statistical data, sketches and scale models remain the personal property of the
consultant.
The importance of the collection and of Loewy's contribution are reflected in the success of Skylab
and the Space Shuttle, for both of which Raymond Loewy was retained as Habitability Consultant. His
designs will form the basis for all American manned spacecraft: "Manned space stations of the future will
require few design changes for man to work comfortably in Zero-G operations, based on the 171-day
occupancy of the Skylab workshop by nine astronauts" Aviation Week &amp; Space Technology, 8 April 1974.
This documentary archive comprises some 3,500 items and includes:
• original conceptual drawings, designs, sketches and detailed sections together with finished
art-work executed with airbrush or body-colour, on card, paper or tracing paper Cc. 520] some
initialled or signed by Loewy and a few consisting of reproductions reworked by hand; mechanical
drafts; blue-prints; reflex negatives Ca number on large sheets]; coloured and black and white
photographs Cused by modern designers particularly in relation to mockups]; negatives; VU-graphic
overlapping transparencies; plates; plans; emblems; textual matter; reports; notes; photocopies;
lithographs; press-type samples and data format cards contained in large folders.
• two space work-overalls and one jacket
• four scale models:
•• Apollo-Saturn V
•• crew's quarters ejected from the Shuttle Orbiter
•• a future space base
•• Skylab

�Habitability Reports prepared for NASA

�• the official reports of the habitability consultant, in 47 illustrated volumes, mostly with spiral
bindings, containing some 4,800 pages, sent by the Loewy team to NASA and consisting of
13 Final and Contract Summary reports C7 or them in two volumes], relating to Earth Orbital
Space Stations (Skylab], the Shuttle, a Modular Space Station and a Wardroom Gallery Module
together with general habitability studies covering all areas of human survival in space-sleeping,
nourishment, hygiene, waste-management, the collection of samples, their dehydration,
identification, dating and freezing for chemical analysis upon return to Earth after 90 or more
days in orbit (27 being duplicates and a small number in photocopy]
• NASA's Habitability Design Support Technical Summary Statement for the design of the Shuttle
dated 1972 as sent to Loewy by NASA's Deputy Chief of Manned Spacecraft Design
• commemorative photographs and letters signed by NASA officials and astronauts including
Frank Borman, Buzz Aldrin and John Stafford.
• Raymond Loewy's own compilation consisting of originals and copies, relating to his part in the
NASA Programmes, including magazine reports
• a space collage by Raymond Loewy, signed and dated
• index volume of NASA's terms and definitions
Skylab and the need for a Habitability Consultant
George Rodney, Director of Martin Marietta Aerospace and NASA's Contractor, explained the need
for a Habitability Consultant in a letter to Raymond Loewy dated 12 February 1975: "Our space programs Mercury, Gemini, Apollo and Skylab - have been the exclusive preserve of the scientist, the engineer and the
medical doctor It was only with Skylab that we first recognised that, if man were to survive for extended
times in space, perhaps we engineers needed some added help." As it stood, all characteristics of existing
space vehicles [primarily Saturn IVB] had been determined entirely by their function as a fuel cell and were
heavily mission-orientated. Grids and internal structural members had been designed for the container's
rigidity and suitability to cryogene liquid hydrogen fuel flowing through it. This produced a hostile metallic
environment with distracting reflective light sources coming from the aluminium foil dome lining and filtered
through the multi-layered grid flooring. To heighten the visual confusion and sense of a mechanical not a
human environment, colour had been used to emphasise the different structural elements rather than
acting as an organising medium.

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HABITABILITY STUDY
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PREPARED FOR NASA BY
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�Skylab, the first manned space station, in fact supported three separate crews for 171 days in
space between 15 May 1973 and 8 February 1974. Clearly, as much attention had to. be paid to "the
physiological safety and comfort of the astronauts" as had been paid to getting them into space. In the pithy
dictum of Dr. George Mueller, NASA's Deputy Administrator for Manned Space-Flights: "what comes out of
the sliding rule is not necessarily compatible with human life."

Raymond Loewy: reasons selected as Habitability Consultant
Following an investigation of various organisations, Dr. J. L. McLaughlin, Chief of NASA's Division of
Space Medicine, recommended Raymond Loewy and his team and confirmation of the appointment was
made on 15 November 1967
Loewy was a pioneer in industrial design and had had a distinguished career in both commercial
and public projects (see curriculum vitae at the end of the catalogue].
In 1962 he had designed the exterior markings and interior appointments of the U.S. Presidential
Air Force One and, "on the floor of the Oval Office", had explored with President Kennedy the idea of
"re-designing America". Kennedy had arranged a meeting between Raymond Loewy and Jim Webb, then
Administrator of NASA.
In the 1950s and 1960s Loewy had established the habitability standards of the U.S. Navy, Coast
Guard and Department of Commerce Maritime Administration. He had also worked on the experimental
submarine Tektite, emergency flying hospitals, helicopter ambulances and the interiors of the White House
helicopters. He had also had comprehensive experience in solving human problems in such projects as the
design of trains, passenger ships, aeroplanes, automobiles, buses, hotels, houses, hospitals, hydrofoils,
interior components for the Inter-Allied Command Headquarters in Washington during the Second World
War and even a prison.

��The Skylab Assignment
Raymond Loewy's task in 1967 was outlined by George Rodney, the Project Director of Martin
Marietta Aerospace:
• "Consultant is to conceive and develop means to insure the psycho-physiological comfort and
safety of the crew operating for prolonged periods in exotic conditions of Zero Gravity [Zero G],
while exposed to micrometeorites and other risks inherent to frequent EVA's [Extra Vehicular
Activities] in deep space"
• "Consultant to suggest ways and means to organise the interior of the workshop to allow the crew
to operate efficiently in a confined semi-dark space, while exposed to claustrophobia and little-known
forms of space sickness"
• "Desirability for the designer to keep in mind possibilities of psychic disturbances, even among men
of outstanding physical and intellectual excellence, triggered by isolation and impossibility of rescue
in case of serious operational failure and/or acute sickness"
• Establish a system to evaluate the fitness of individuals to become astronauts.
Special Problems and Unknown Factors
In 1967 the U.S. had little experience of manned space-flight and none of extended missions.
There were four constants for the designer, each with unknown consequences for human physical and
pyschological endurance:
• Zero Gravity, producing weightlessness
• Missions of long duration
• A surrounding hostile environment [including micrometeorites]
• A totally closed system with no visual access to Earth
Owing to the unique limitations of space, weight and materials, almost everything displayed or
discussed was outside the range of accepted habitability standards and practices. For instance, in 1967,
no one was certain how the crew would move about the station and the Apollo project was too undeveloped
to provide data on how to translate from point to point in a Zero Gravity environment.
Ignorance of the potential problems resulted in the proliferation of development designs, many of
them, such as for protective helmets, sleeping devices and exercising and guide rails, ultimately proving to
be unnecessary. Such unused designs greatly add to the historical value of the collection.

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�Lack of knowledge also demanded some bizarre experiments, such as the following described
by Loewy:
"Because of the impossibility of reproducing weightlessness on Earth nobody knew whether or not
the device we had designed to collect fecal matter [for eventual analysis on re-entry] would create
sufficient suction to be effective. An engineer from the team with which we collaborated had an
idea in order to obtain visual confirmation of correct vacuum suction. View-ports were provided at
strategic locations in the fecal collectors installed in a fast aircraft. Volunteers were paid $50 to be
fed pure prune juice and after a pre-established time interval the aircraft took off at a steep climb.
At a given signal, it went into an outside loop creating for a few seconds a Zero Gravity condition of
weightlessness. Any volunteer that produced the necessary bowel movement was given an extra
$50 bonus payment for its contribution to the project's development."
Raymond Loewy^s General Recommendations for Skylab
After an initial briefing and indoctrination in Zero-Gravity living Raymond Loewy realised that the life
of the crewmen "would take place while subjected to many unfamiliar, often forbidding influences and
stresses, both physical and psychological. Besides discomfort, there might occur strange expressions of
space-sickness compounded with EVA risk and, perhaps, deep emotional distress. However, I felt that even
men of transcendental courage, and physical fitness, thoroughly trained through simulation devices and
prepared for all sorts of contingencies, would react in predictable ways in regard to atavistic personal and
social needs. Successful behaviour in prolonged 0-G and in close proximity to other men in cramped
quarters deserved subtle understanding and plenty of down-to-earth feelings on our part.
In addition, I felt that there was a value in surrounding them with a semblance of life-on-Earth
familiarity at least in social areas. To induce relaxation and relieve strain were, I thought, necessary
requirements.
I did not pretend, I freely admitted, that my opinions were necessarily based upon scientific
premise; they were simply a case of what we called 'educated intuition', the result of decades of field
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Dr. George Mueller attended by scientists, psychologists, space medical doctors, engineers and astronauts.
Loewy was invited to express his views. He made the following general recommendations, which have
influenced all later concepts:
• A port-hole to maintain visual contact with Earth [debriefing remarks by crewmen as reported by
NASA after Skylab's first mission included the statement that the most important off-duty activity
was the window, and they wished they had more and larger windows)
• The need for sleeping areas giving total privacy for each crewman with the possibility of reading
and listening to recorded music ["primary recreational activity during 70.5 million miles of manned
space flight was listening to taped music..." recorded on wire to avoid fire risk. Aviation Week and
Space Technology, 8 April 1974)
• The necessity of a wardroom providing some measure of communal living at meal times and during
leisure periods
• The importance of adopting a vertical up-and-down monodirectional [Zero G) mode of living or
stance [foot restraints were particularly important in achieving this)
• The development of systems to prevent the ascendency of one crew member over his fellows
[the triangular eating surface was one outcome of this)
Practical Solutions by Raymond Loewy, primarily for Skylab
Raymond Loewy began his work under the enormous limitations imposed by the concept of a "wet"
launch [based on the crewmen's moving all internal equipment from the Multiple Docking Adaptor to the
Earth Orbital Space Station after the evacuation of residual fuel — Skylab was at first to be in a used fuel
tank). With the change to a "dry" launch [whereby the laboratory would be fitted out before launch) the
designer came into his own: among the many practical solutions produced by Loewy's team [working in
conjunction with the technical consultants) were:

��• WASTE MANAGEMENT — details of positioning, privacy and configuration taking into consideration
the impossibility of using toilet paper because the fibres floating in Zero Gravity could cause
pneumonia. The waste management system was one of the most significant technical and
habitability advancements of Skylab over earlier missions. The system was highly sophisticated and
enabled measured samples of urine and fecal matter to be retained in a freeze-dried state for
analysis on return to Earth to detect possible chemical changes in body due to Zero Gravity.
• FGOD MANAGEMENT — including designs for food preparation and utensils, with packaging Csome
collapsible) for convenience, attractiveness and control of errant food debris and surfaces that were
flush and easy to clean to prevent the accumulation of matter ejected through space sickness.
• HEADGEAR—the design of helmets to prevent injury through collision in Zero G [ultimately proved
to be unnecessary).
• CREW QUARTERS — the initial suggestion was that the living deck be divided into areas for exercise
and experiment, dining, waste management, sleep and storage: Loewy provided designs for privacy
and group relationships in three areas with toilets separate from basins.
• COLOUR SELECTION — with emphasis on a congenial, warm spectrum.
• PERSONAL HYGIENE — remembering that showers do not work in space.
• SLEEP STATIONS OR AREAS —the first layout made this a communal space with bunks and
storage pouches arranged in conventional bunkrooms. This took account only of the comatose
state of sleeping; but sleeping also involves undressing, a period of reflection, awakening, rousing
and dressing. Loewy insisted on privacy. The summary report stated: "Joe reads in his sleep
compartment at night. At night Pete uses the headset so no one else has to listen to the music."
• RESTRAINTS — so that while sitting and moving the crewmen could stabilize themselves by making
toe-holds with the toe-cleats in their sandals into the honeycomb floors or ceilings.
• RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES — Robert L. Bond, Principal Investigator for Skylab Crew Activities
and Maintenance Studies reported:

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bigger ones. They didn't start reading until the spacecraft altitude became such that they couldn't
track the ground out CofD the wardroom window, or when the major daylight ground track took them
primarily over water — they have used the balls a few times mainly out of curiosity. Paul is the
champ holding two records - C1) a toss from the MDA that bounced off the lid of the Trash A/L and
went into the CM without touching a thing (2) a toss around the same path the run around the
lockers that continued to strike the lockers in sequence 111 times before running out of gas and
going off line. No one has used any of the exercise gear. They prefer to ride the bike or lope around
the lockers. They all use the binoculars to look at the ground Cevery day). They all enjoy the tapes
and use the recorders in the wardroom, at the ATM, and in the bedrooms... they all feel that the
unique effects of Zero-G are just about enough to fill their off-duty time with interesting things to
do. They also feel that Earth bound interests stay with them in orbit and whatever a guy's hobby
or fun things to do on the ground might be is also what he would enjoy having for relaxation in flight within design reason. Oh yeah - and the darts don't work!"
Assessment of Raymond Loewy^s Achievement
Loewy's contribution has been the subject of laudatory articles in numerous magazines and
reports, but perhaps most telling are the assessments in letters from members of the NASA team.
Dr. George Mueller, Deputy Administrator of NASA's Manned Spacecraft Division wrote to Loewy
on 29 July 1974:
Dear Raymond:
Two significant events in the last decade will, I believe, shape the future course of human history.
The first was landing on the Moon with its demonstration that humanity was no longer bound to the
Earth. The second was the manned orbiting space station with its demonstration that man could
live for indefinite periods of time in a weightless environment and that he could perform useful,
yes, unique work in that environment.
Raymond, in my opinion, you and your organization played a crucial role in the latest of these
momentous steps that man is taking to the stars. I do not believe that it would have been possible
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�had it not been for your creative design, based on deep understanding of human needs, of the
interior environment of Skylab and the human engineering of the equipment and furnishings which
the astronauts used. That design and engineering applied, in turn, to our follow-on space stations
has provided the foundation for man's next great step - an expedition to the planets.
You should be proud, as all of us who know of your contribution are proud, of the key role you have
played in laying the foundation for man to live in space.
My most sincere congratulations for your work on the Skylab Program and my best wishes for
your continued contributions to man's role in space.
Sincerely,
George Mueller,
Chairman and President.

William Schneider, Director of the Skylab Programme, wrote to Caldwell Johnson, Principal
Investigator at the Johnson Space Centre, about his and Loewy's work:
".. .Your contributions both to the basic concept for the workshop living provisions and to many
of the detailed features that made it work well, were clearly instrumental in making Skylab the good
place for living and working that the crews found it to be. And the systematic collection and
organization of data from the missions will surely be of inestimable value in the design of the
Shuttle, the Spacelab, and the experiment hardware they will carry into orbit..."

��George Rodney, NASA's Contractor and Chief of Martin Marietta Aerospace, wrote to Raymond
Loewy on 12 February 1975:
Dear Raymond:
It was a pleasure to hear that the works of Raymond Loewy are going to be displayed at the
Smithsonian Institute. That thought has caused me to reflect on the unique place you have had
in our infant space program.
Our space programs - Mercury, Gemini, Apollo and Skylab - have been the exclusive preserve
of the scientist, the engineer and the medical doctor. It was only in Skylab that we first recognised
that, if man were to survive for extended times in space, perhaps we engineers needed some
added help. We enlisted the aid of Loewy Snaith Inc.; and it was your influence, Raymond, that
caused us to soften the lines, provide better crew accommodations, and consider the colors and
light and the many other factors that helped make life reasonable for the astronauts. You, in short,
among your many other firsts were the first to introduce the fine arts into space. Your imagination
and personal enthusiasm left an imprint on both the hardware and all of us who had the good
fortune to be associated with you.
Skylab has convincingly proved that we can live and work for indefinite periods in space and,
therefore, manned space travel to other areas of the universe is practical. I for one am convinced
that our civilization, if it continues to advance at all, will be setting forth on other planets within the
next fifty years. So I say to you my dear friend that, as you reflect on the many achievements
in your fabulous career, you can take special pride in your contribution to this next major step in
man's evolution.
My best personal regards.
Sincerely yours,
George A. Rodney

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the USSR. He declined.

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Raymond Loewy is generally recognised as one of the founders of the profession known as
industrial design.
Under the headline "A brilliant designer streamlined the shape of things by joining form to function
in bold new looks", he was hailed [in company with Edison, Bell, Ford and the Wright brothers] as one of the
major influences on the American way of life in a special report in Life magazine [bicentennial issue, 19753
entitled "The 100 events that shaped America". He was also listed as "One of the Thousand Makers of the
Twentieth Century" in the London Sunday Times [colour magazine], 1969.
Loewy's career was summarised thus in Life magazine: "Operating on the principles that 'form
must follow function' and that 'weight is the enemy', Loewy, in 1929, began by remodelling an ugly
duplicating machine into a handsome piece of office equipment. Subsequently Loewy's streamlined and
elegantly simple designs shaped thousands of products - from locomotives, tractors and refrigerators to...
vacuum cleaners. He created the revolutionary 'lean and hungry' postwar Studebaker. Later he designed
the interior of the Skylab and the emblem of the U.S. Postal Service. His innovations in packaging, like the
white wartime packet he created for the formerly green-packeted Lucky Strikes, started the trend toward
clean designs in which bold letters seemed to jump out at customers' eyes. Through the influence of Loewy
and his contemporaries, manufacturers now spend millions to make their products and the packages they
come in physically attractive, and in testing to determine which designs the public likes best."
When creating him a Grand Officer of the Legion d'Honneur President Giscard d'Estaing wrote
to Loewy:
"Vous n'avez cesse d'associer le nom de la France aux brillants succes qui font de vous I'une
des personnalites les plus marquantes de notre temps et de servir la cause de I'amitie entre la France
et I'Amerique."

��Among the many products and designs with which Raymond Loewy was involved may
be mentioned:

• Coca Cola bottle and can
• U.S. Postal Service emblem
• Lucky Strike packet
• Greyhound buses 1945-1950
• Studebakercars
• Presidential aircraft Air Force One
• Coldspot refrigerator
• Gestetner duplicating machine
• Kennedy memorial stamp
• Concorde interior and cutlery
• Shell and BP emblems, service stations and packages
• Heinz soup packaging
• Four Square Tobacco package
• Avanti cars
• Wrigley's chewing gum package
• Pennsylvania Railroads, locomotives and passenger cars CGG1;
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• Schick razors
• Total - service stations
• Hupmobile cars

• Lever Brothers packaging
• USSR - design of a large range of mass-manufactured
products
• Rosenthal crockery
• Sucaryl bottle
• De Dietrich - kitchen products
• Canada Dry soda bottle
• Black Label beer can
• Bird's coffee package
• Vosene medicated shampoo
• U.S. Navy nuclear destroyer 1938
• Exxon - Standard Oil of New Jersey's new trade mark
• Roots Brothers' Cars
• Hilton Hotels
• Austin 1948 model
• Fridgedair products
• Elna sewing machines
• Howard Hughes private aircraft 1951
• International Harvester trademark and tractors
• Aerodynamic ailerons

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married Viola Erickson in 1948.
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Croix de Guerre, 1914-1918, four citations
Inter-Allied medal
Liaison Officer with American Expeditionary Force 1914-1918
Founder; Fellow and former President of the American Society of Industrial Design
Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts, London
Member of the American Academy of Achievement, Hall of Fame, Boston
Honorary Doctor of Fine Arts at the University of Cincinnati, Arts Center College, Los Angeles and the University of Linz, Austria
Award of Honor, California Design Institute, Los Angeles, 1979
Member of the Board of Education, New York City
Citizen of Honour of France, New York City, Chicago and Palm Springs
Member of the Psycho-Physiological Institute, Washington
Honorary life member of the American Railroad Association, Washington
Counsel to the American Society for the study of human factors in aviation
Lecturer at MIT, Harvard, UCLA, University of Paris and of Leningrad, USSR State Committee for Science and Technology, the
All-Union Institute of Industrial Research, Moscow, and U.S. Academy of Engineering, Washington
• Habitability Consultant to NASA's Saturn-Apollo Applications Programme, Skylab and Shuttle Orbiter projects
• Member of the U.S. Space Medicine Association

Exhibitions of his designs have been held at the Smithsonian Institute, Washington DC "The Designs
of Raymond Loewy" in 1975; and at Centre Beaubourg, Paris, 1975.
Articles about him have appeared in Time [cover 1949); Los Angeles Times ("Loewy puts his
stamp on the 20th century"); Life magazine "The Great Packager" (1949), as quoted above or in the main
body of the catalogue and elsewhere.
He is author of The Locomotive, its aesthetics; Never Leave Well Alone (his autobiography);
Raymond Loewy: Industrial Design and "Second-Best is not Enough" Reader's Digest 1963.
Last year the U.S. Foundation for the Arts made a television documentary about Loewy entitled
"Looking Back to the Future".

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SATELLITE DRAG STUDY

G r a n t Number NSG 8 0 6 9
Final Report

F o r t he period 1 April 1979 to 3.1 July 1980
Principal Investigator
• J a c k W. Slowey

Prepared for
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
Marshall Space Flight Center, Alabama 35812

October 1980

Smithsonian Institution
Astrophysical Observatory
Cambridge, Massachusetts 02138

The S m i t h s o n i a n A s t r o p h y s i c a l O b s e r v a t o r y
and the Harvard College Observatory
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Center for Astrophysics

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G r a n t Number NSG 8069
F i n a l Report

For t h e p e r i o d 1 A p r i l 1979 t o 31 J u l y 1980
Principal Investigator
Jack W. Slowey

Prepared for
National A e r o n a u t i c s and Space A d m i n i s t r a t i o n
Marshall Space F l i g h t C e n t e r , Alabama 35812

O c t o b e r 1980

Smithsonian I n s t i t u t i o n
Astrophysical Observatory
Cambridge, M a s s a c h u s e t t s 02138

The S m i t h s o n i a n A s t r o p h y s i c a l O b s e r v a t o r y
and t h e Harvard C o l l e g e Observatory
a r e members o f t h e
Center for Astrophysics

The NASA Technical O f f i c e r f o r t h i s g r a n t i s Dr. R.E. S m i t h , Ctide ES81,
Space S c i e n c e L a b o r a t o r y , Marshall Space F l i g h t C e n t e r , Marshall Space
Flight Center, Alabama 35812.

��1.

Introduction

The Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory (SAO), under a
grant from NASA (NSG8058), first began an analysis of the effects
of atmospheric drag on the Skylab satellite, 1973-27A, in the
fall of. 1977. Under that grant we determined, from orbital data
obtained from NORAD, the observed atmospheric drag on Skylab with
a resolution of 5 days or better in an interval that was
eventually to extend from March 1974 to the end of 1978.
At the
same time, we compared the observed drag with that predicted by
an atmospheric model and made numerous forecasts, based on
predicted solar and geomagnetic activity, of the orbital lifetime
of the satellite.
The current grant work at SAO is essentially a continuation
of the original grant work.
Under this grant we continued to
monitor the drag on Skylab and to make lifetime predictions up to
the time of final decay. These activities were described in some
detail in an earlier report and will not be covered again here.
We also continued to act as consultant to MSFC in matters
relating to our various atmospheric models and, in particular, to
the implementation at MSFC of our most recent (1977) model.
These activities have been conducted on a relatively informal
basis, by telephone and letter, and will not be described here.
We have also conducted a "post mortem" analysis to determine how
the techniques that we used on Skylab might be improved in the
future, especially with respect to the question of separating
possible variations in area-mass ratio from departures of the
atmospheric density from model values.
A short summary of this
work, together with some suggestions for future work, are given
in what follows.

2.

Technical Progress

We had hoped to utilize a second satellite in a comparative
analysis of atmospheric drag during the final portion of the
lifetime of Skylab.
The object was to see if the drag on a
second satellite
could
be
successfully
used
to
separate
variations in the observed drag on Skylab that might be due to
variations in the area-mass ratio from those that are due to
variations in atmospheric density. An atmospheric model alone is
not entirely adequate for this purpose since present models, as
good as they are in representing the large variations in density
that occur, are subject to appreciable systematic errors having
characteristic times of up to a month or more. These errors are
due mainly to failure of the decimetric solar flux to adequately
represent the variations in the solar EUV radiation that actually
heats the thermosphere and to similar inadequacy of the planetary
geomagnetic index as an indicator of the heating associated with
geomagnetic disturbance (and of present models of that very
complex phenomenon).
Except for short intervals in which

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geomagnetic disturbance may dominate, the densities determined
from drag on different satellites are generally quite consistent
among themselves. Thus it should be possible to infer density at
another location with greater accuracy from the drag on a
satellite of known area-mass ratio than is possible from any
model based on the usual geophysical parameters.
Of course, a
model would
still
be
required
to
provide
a
means
for
interpolating between the location of the probe satellite and the
desired location.
Unfortunately, the problems of data acquisition, program
development (mainly the conversion of several large programs to
run on a new computer), and processing proved to be too great to
carry out the projected analysis within the constraints of this
grant.
Instead, we made use of densities we had previously
obtained from the drag on the Explorer 32 satellite (1966-44A) to
make a comparison with the orbital accelerations of Skylab that
we had determined under the earlier grant (NSG 8058).
The
interval covered by this comparison was 265 days beginning in
late March, 1974.
The orbital acceleration (rates of change of the mean
motion) of Skylab that we determined from the available NORAD
orbits are plotted for this interval in Figure 1.
These were
obtained by drawing a smooth curve through the observed values of
the argument of latitude (M +w) and numerically differentiating
the curve using a 5-day time-step. In the same figure are shown
the corresponding accelerations determined by differentiation of
the results of numerical integration of the orbit using an
atmospheric model and, at the bottom, the ratios of the observed
accelerations to those computed from the orbit integration. The
model used in the integration was an updated version of Jacchia's
1970 model (Jacchia, 1970) and the assumed area-mass ratio was
0.0369 cm2/g. The drag coefficient was allowed- to vary around
the orbit, but the effective value was very close to 2.24
throughout the interval.
The relatively large short-term variations in the orbital
acceleration seen
in
Figure 1 are
due to variations
in
thermospheric heating by both solar EUV radiation and the
particle precipitation and/or ionospheric currents associated
with geomagnetic disturbance. In models, these two heat sources
are tied, in the first instance, to the 10.7-cm solar radio flux
and, in the second instance, to the Kp planetary geomagnetic
index.
In Figure 2, we have plotted 5-day means of both the
10.7-cm flux and the Kp geomagnetic index, on scales that are
roughly equal in terms or their expected effect on the exospheric
temperature of the atmosphere (the scale for Kp is slightly
exaggerated in this regard compared to that for *10#7). As can
be seen, the two indices are quite independent of each other and
may act either in unison or in opposition.

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In Figure 4, we have plotted the exospheric temperature Tj
that results from . the 1970 model when only the short-term
variation in the 10.7-cm flux (the so-called "27 day" variation)
and the geomagnetic variation are taken into account.
These
temperatures were computed from
Tj = 665.2+1.8 (

P10#7 ~ 85.) +28 Kp+ 0.03 exp (Kp),

where F
Kpare the 5-day mean values from Figure 2.
We
7and
give them"here only to better illustrate the expected short-term
variations in density in the interval being studied.
Note that
these temperatures differ somewhat in detail from the computed
accelerations in Figure 1. This is because the values in Figure
1, as a result of the differentiation process, actually represent
means over a slightly longer interval than 5 days.
In comparing the observed acceleration of Skylab from Figure
1 with either the corresponding model values or the temperatures
of Figure 3, it will be noticed that several of the expected
sharp maxima or minima are missing in the observed values. It is
these points on the plot that result in the more prominent
"outlyers" in the ratio of observed to computed acceleration.
There is little doubt that some of th,ese apparent departures from
the model are, in fact, due mostly to errors in the observed
values resulting from the relatively crude method used to derive
them.
And, it follows that the scatter in the values of the
ratio is adversely effected generally for the same reason.
This
difficulty could, of course, be overcome by differentiating with
a considerably larger time step, but this would automatically
rule out the possibility of resolving shorter-term variations of
any kind.
In Figure 4 we have plotted 5—day means of atmospheric
densities obtained from analysis of the drag on the Explorer 32
satellite.
The densities are those at the effective height
(approximately 1/2 scale-height above
the
true height) of
perigee.
The average effective height in the interval plotted
was about 300 km.
These densities were obtained by direct
analysis of radar observations from selected sensors.
The
densities were originally determined with a general resolution of
1 day and a resolution of 0.5 day during larger geomagnetic
disturbances. The 5-day means plotted in the figure should have
a relative precision of close to 1%.
These densities confirm the accuracy of the model with
respect to 4 of the 5 worst values of the ratio in Figure 1. The
exception is the point at MJD 42205, where the minimum predicted
by the model and missing in the Skylab accelerations is also
missing in the densities determined from Explorer 32.
Other
differences in the Skylab accelerations are also confirmed as
being atmospheric in origin and not due to errors in the observed
values.

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At t h i s p o i n t we s h o u l d m e n t i o n t h a t our o l d e r a t m o s p h e r i c
models a r e n o t c u r r e n t l y o p e r a t i o n a l a t SAO due p r i m a r i l y t o a
change i n c o m p u t e r s .
I t was o u r i n t e n t i o n i n t h e p r e s e n t
analysis t o compute model v a l u e s f o r both S k y l a b and E x p l o r e r 32
using our most r e c e n t a t m o s p h e r i c model ( J a c c h i a , 1 9 7 7 ) , which i s
operational, and t o make a c o m p a r i s o n between t h e two s a t e l l i t e s
using the r a t i o s t o t h e s e v a l u e s . Much t o our s u r p r i s e , however,
the o r b i t a l a c c e l e r a t i o n s of S k y l a b computed w i t h t h e new model
did not agree i n d e t a i l w i t h t h e o b s e r v e d v a l u e s a s w e l l a s d i d
those from t h e o l d e r model n o r d i d t h e d e n s i t i e s computed f o r
Explorer 32 r e p r e s e n t t h e d e t a i l s of t h e o b s e r v e d v a l u e s a s w e l l
as i t was e x p e c t e d t h e y would.
I t i s n o t y e t known w h e t h e r t h i s a p p a r e n t d i f f i c u l t y w i t h
the new model i s i n t r i n s i c o r i s somehow due t o t h e way i t was
implemented i n t h e p a r t i c u l a r c i r c u m s t a n c e s .
The o n l y o t h e r
application of t h e model t h a t we have made i n a d r a g s i t u a t i o n
was during t h e f i n a l d e c a y of S k y l a b . I t seemed t o perform q u i t e
well in t h a t c a s e .
T h a t was h a r d l y a d e f i n i t i v e t e s t , however,
and i t may w e l l b e t h a t t h e most i m p o r t a n t r e s u l t of t h e p r e s e n t
analysis i s t h a t
it
revealed
a
major
difficulty in
the
model-related, a p p a r e n t l y ,
t o t h e "improved" model of
the
geomagnetic v a r i a t i o n t h a t i t i n c o r p o r a t e s .
When means of t h e computed d e n s i t i e s f o r E x p l o r e r 32 were
taken over 10-day i n t e r v a l s , t h e y were q u i t e smooth and d i d
reproduce most of t h e s y s t e m a t i c d e p a r t u r e s o b s e r v e d i n t h e
ratios for S k y l a b .
I n view of t h e d i f f i c u l t i e s w i t h t h e model,
we do not f e e l t h a t we a r e j u s t i f i e d i n p r e s e n t i n g t h o s e r e s u l t s
as proven f a c t , however.
We m u s t , a t l e a s t f o r t h e time b e i n g ,
consider t h e a n a l y s i s t o have been " i n c o n c l u s i v e " .

3.

Conclusions and Recommendations

an
Our e x p e r i e n c e w i t h S k y l a b d e m o n s t r a t e d t h e need
automated p r o c e d u r e f o r t h e h i g h - r e s o l u t i o n d e t e r m i n a t i o n of
densities from s a t e l l i t e d r a g .
For r e a s o n s of e f f i c i e n c y ,
should be an a n a l y t i c p r o c e d u r e a n d , l i k e t h e program t h a t
previously e x i s t e d a t SAO, s h o u l d be based on d i r e c t a n a l y s i s of
the individual o b s e r v a t i o n s of t h e p a r t i c u l a r s a t e l l i t e i n o r d e r
to yield t h e g r e a t e s t p o s s i b l e p r e c i s i o n and t i m e r e s o l u t i o n . As
a p r a c t i c a l m a t t e r , i t s h o u l d b e f u l l y a u t o m a t i c and f r e e of
reliance on hand methods of any k i n d .
I t would be e x t r e m e l y
valuable i n a v a r i e t y of programs i n o r b i t a l dynamics, such a s
the s t u d i e s we made of t h e d r a g on S k y l a b and t h e kind of
comparative a n a l y s i s we s u g g e s t i s f e a s i b l e i n t h e c a s e of
s a t e l l i t e s w i t h unknown o r v a r y i n g a r e a - m a s s r a t i o s , and a s a
research t o o l
that
could contribute
significantly
to the
improvement of models of t h e t h e r m o s p h e r e and e x o s p h e r e .
We
recommend t h a t MSFC s e r i o u s l y c o n s i d e r t h e development of such a
program.

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We would a l s o recommend t h a t c o n s i d e r a t i o n be g i v e n t o t h e
possibility of u t i l i z i n g t h i s program i n a p r o j e c t t o monitor a
small number of s a t e l l i t e s on a c o n t i n u o u s b a s i s .
No d e n s i t i e s
from s a t e l l i t e d r a g have been d e t e r m i n e d i n any a p p r e c i a b l e
quantity s i n c e 1 9 7 4 .
T h e r e a r e , however, some problems i n
thermospheric s t r u c t u r e and model development t h a t would b e n e f i t
greatly from t h e a v a i l a b i l i t y of s u c h d e n s i t i e s . There i s s t r o n g
evidence i n measurements of s o l a r EUV i r r a d i a n c e , f o r example, of
major d i f f e r e n c e s between t h e c u r r e n t s o l a r c y c l e and t h e
previous one ( H i n t e r e g g e r , 197 9 ) .
Our a n a l y s i s of S k y l a b
revealed t h a t t h e r e s p o n s e of t h e a t m o s p h e r e r e l a t i v e t o t h e
decimetric f l u x was n o t g r e a t l y d i f f e r e n t i n t h e two c y c l e s . The
exact nature of what d i f f e r e n c e may e x i s t remains t o be s e e n ,
however, and i t would seem t h a t d r a g a n a l y s i s o f f e r s t h e o n l y
means by which i t can be a c c u r a t e l y d e t e r m i n e d .
Densities
determined from d r a g h a v e t h e a d v a n t a g e of c o n t i n u i t y ( t h e d r a g
record extends back t o 1958) and freedom from t h e problems of
cross-calibration
between
experiments
that
is
lacking
in
densities
determined
by
mass-spectrometers
and
other
satellite-borne i n s t r u m e n t s .

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References

Hinteregger, H.E.
1979 Development of s o l a r c y c l e 21 o b s e r v e d i n EUV spectrum and
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Geophys.
R e s . , 84, pp
atmospheric a b s o r p t i o n s .
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Jacchia, L.G.
1970 New s t a t i c models of t h e t h e r m o s p h e r e and e x o s p h e r e w i t h
empirical t e m p e r a t u r e p r o f i l e s .
Smithsonian Astrophys.
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No. . 3 1 3 , 87 p p .
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models.
Smithsonian Astrophys.
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375, 106 p p .

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No.

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These captions pertain to the following figures (1-4).
Figure 1.

Observed orbital acceleration
of
Skylab
(top),
acceleration
computed
from an atmospheric model
(middle), and
ratio
of
observed
to
computed
acceleration (bottom).

Figure 2.

5-day means of 10.7 cm solar
Kpgeomagnetic index (bottom).

Figure 3.

Exospheric temperature computed for just
variation and the geomagnetic variation.

the

27-day

Figure 4.

5-day means of observed densities at effective
for the Explorer 32 satellite.

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flux

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Pilot
Also making his first space flight. Jack R. Lousma was
one of 19 astronauts selected by NASA in April, 1966.
He served as a member of astronaut support crews for the
Apollo IX, X, and XIII missions. A major in the U.S.
Marine Corps, he has logged more than 2,600 hours of
flight time.

LAUNCH ESCAPE SYSTEM (LES)
APOLLO COMMAND MODULE (CM)
APOLLO SERVICE MODULE (SM)
Space Div
Rockwell International

ALAN BEAN

OWEN GARRIOTT

JACK LOUSMA

2nd Skylab crewC.

SPACECRAFT - LUNAR MODULE
ADAPTER (SLA)

ALAN L. BEAN
Commander

•INSTRUMENT UNIT (IU)
International Business Machines, Inc.

Commander for the second manned Skylab mission, Alan
L. Bean is a veteran of the Apollo Program, having served
as lunar module pilot for the flight of Apollo XII in
November, 1969.
During that Apollo mission, he
brought the lunar module to a precision landing within
300 feet of the targeted landing point. He helped install
the first nuclear power generator on the moon. He has
logged a total of 244 hours, 36 minutes of space flight,
which includes seven hours and 45 minutes outside the
spacecraft on the lunar surface.

•S-IVB STAGE
McDonnell Douglas
Astronautics Co.
-1 J-2 ENGINE
Rocketdyne Div
Rockwell International
. INTERSTAGE

A captain in the U.S. Navy, Bean became a NASA astro­
naut in 1963. He was born in Wheeler, Texas, on March
15, 1932. After graduating from Paschal High School in
Fort Worth, Texas, he received a BS degree in aeronauti­
cal engineering from the University of Texas in 1955.

•FIRST STAGE BOOSTER
Chrysler Corp.

Bean holds many awards, including the NASA Distin­
guished Service Medal, Navy Astronaut Wings and the
Navy Distinguished Service Medal. During his career, he
has flown 27 types of military aircraft, logging more than
4,410 hours flying time.

8 H-1 ENGINES
Rocketdyne Div
Rockwell International

OWEN K. GARRIOTT
Science Pilot

Each member of the space team has an im­
portant role in achieving the Manned Flight
Awareness objective of preventing errors
and defects in space flight hardware and
operations. The error prevented helps en­
sure a safe and successful mission - and
eliminates the cost of correction. Error-free
performance truly means more space pro­
gram per dollar.

MANNED FLIGHT AWARENESS
Marshall Space Flight Center, S81A - DIR
Marshall Space Flight Center, Alabama 35812

Making his first space flight, Owen K. Garriott was
selected as a scientist-astronaut by NASA in June, 1965.
He has since completed a course in flight training and has
logged more than 1,600 hours flying time.

SCIENCE &amp; ENGINEERING IN OR

Garriott was born in Enid, Okla., on Nov. 22, 1930. He
graduated from Enid High School and then received a BS
degree in electrical engineering from the University of
Oklahoma in 1953. He also holds a master of science
degree and a doctorate in electrical engineering from
Stanford University in 1957 and 1960, respectively. He
has performed research in ionospheric physics since ob­
taining his doctorate, and he has authored and coauthored more than 25 scientific papers and one book.
He was awarded a National Science Foundation Fellow­
ship at Cambridge University and at the Radio Research
Station at Slough, England, 1960-1961.

He was born in Grand Rapids, Mich., on Feb. 29, 1936.
He attended Ann Arbor High School and received a BS
degree in aeronautical engineering from the University of
Michigan in 1959. He holds the degree of aeronautical
engineer from the U.S. Naval Post-graduate School
in 1965.
Lousma has been a Marine Corps officer since 1959. He
was awarded the MSC Certificate of Commendation in
1970.

BACKUP CREW
Vance D. Brand, Commander
William B. Lenoir, Science Pilot
Don L. Lind, Pilot

SL-3 EXPERIMENT ASSIGNMENTS
Number

M071
M073
M074
M092
M093
Ml 12—
Ml 15
M131
M133
M151
M171
M172
T003
M479
T002
T027
M487
T020
SOI 9
S020
S063
S073
SI 49
S183
S228
S230
S052
S054
S055A
S056
S082A
S082B
S190A
S190B
S191
S192
S193
SI 94
S071/
S072

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Science
Pilot

Cmdr.

Pilot

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Mineral Balance
Bioassay of 8ody Fluids
Specimen Mass Measurement
In-Flight Lower Body Neg Press.
Vectorcardiogram
Blood Studies

OWS
OWS
OWS
OWS
OWS
OWS

Human Vestibular Function
Sleep Monitoring
Time and Motion Study
Metabolic Activity

OWS
OWS
OWS
OWS
OWS
OWS
MDA
OWS
OWS

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•

0

•

0

0
0

0

0

OWS

•

OWS

•

Body Mass Measurement
In-F light Aerosol Analysis
Zero Gravity Flammabiliiy
Manual Navigation Sightings
ATM Contamination
Measurement
Habitability and Crew
Quarters
Foot Controlled
Maneuvering Unit
UV Stellar Astronomy
UV/X-Ray Solar Photography
UV Airglow Horizon Photo
Gegenschein/Zodiacal Light
Particle Collection
Ultraviolet Panorama
Transuranic Cosmic Rays
Magnetospheric Particle Collection
White Light Coronagraph
X Ray Spectrographs Telescope
UV Scanning Polychromator/
Spectroheliometer
X Ray Telescope
XUV Coronal Spectrohehograph
UV Spectrometer
Multispectral Photo. Facility
Earth Terrain Camera
Infrared Spectrometer
Multispectral Scanner
Microwave Rariiometei/
Scatterometcr Radai and Altimeter
L Band Radiometei
Orcadian Phythm of Pocket Mice
Orcadian Rhythm of Vineqai Gnats

OWS
OWS
OWS
OWS
OWS
OWS
OWS
ATM
ATM
ATM
ATM
ATM
ATM
ATM
MDA
OWS
MDA

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0
0

0
0
0

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0
0

0

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0

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T8D

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0

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0

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MDA
MDA

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MDA
CSM
CSM

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DATE

TIME/EDT

EVENT AND BRIEF DESCRIPTION

JULY

7:08 a.m.

Liftoff of Second Skylab Crew

7:10a.m.

First/Second Stage Separation

7:18 a.m.

Spacecraft in Orbit

9:26 a.m.

First Spacecraft Maneuver to
Accomplish Rendezvous

2:21 p.m.

Final Maneuver Toward Rendezvous
With Skylab

3:38 p.m.

Docking With Workshop Cluster

3:21 p.m.

Undocking From Cluster

8:38 p.m.

Landing

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of persons in NASA and industry worked around the
clock to conceive, design, produce, and test the methods
needed t o save the mission.
The effort was successful.
A sun shield was deployed over the station's habitable
area reducing temperatures to acceptable levels. Later,
the astronauts made a space walk that resulted in a suc­
cessful deployment of the jammed solar array wing.
PARASOL (Sun Shade)

SEPT.

22
NOTE:

At printing time of this brochure, the above timeline
was tentative and subject to change

MISSION PROFILE
The second Skylab crew will be launched to a rendezvous
with the orbiting cluster atop a Saturn IB and aboard a
modified Apollo Command and Service Module.
They are first launched into a preliminary orbit. Several
sequence maneuvers are required to reach the orbit of the
Skylab cluster. After docking, the crew rests before en­
tering the station.
Present plans call for the crew, early in the mission, to re­
place a sun shade which was deployed above the cluster
by the first Skylab crew. Tests have shown that the sun
shade deteriorates in strength due t o exposure t o direct
rays of the Sun. The shade will be replaced by the astro­
nauts working outside the orbiting station. They will
deploy two long poles. The new sun shade will be sent
out along the poles in a manner similar to raising a flag.
While the first crew completed a 28-day mission, the
second crew plans to remain aloft for 56 days.
The
mission will be similar t o the first one, but places more
emphasis on solar astronomy and earth resources experi­
ments.
SKYLAB REPAIRS
Two problems developed during the launch of the
unmanned Skylab cluster on May 14, 1973. The meteoroid shield, a thin, .025-inch aluminum cover on the out­
side of the station, was torn loose during launch. This
caused extreme overheating of the station.
The second problem involved the loss of one of two large
solar array wings attached t o the sides of the station. The
second wing deployed only partially. This caused the loss
of more than half the electrical power needed to operate
the station.
Because of these problems, the launch of the first crew
was delayed eleven days. During this interim, thousands

TYPICAL WORK DAY IN SPACE
The mission will be run on Central Daylight Time and the
sleep periods will run fairly constantly from 1 0 p.m. to
6 a.m.
After entering the workshop, the first two big
jobs will be shutting down the command module and
activating the Workshop.
During a regular mission day, the crew will spend the
morning hours from 6 t o 8 preparing for work. Check­
lists and plans for the day's work will be sent t o Skylab
from the ground, and received on a teleprinter aboard
Skylab.
The major experiments are solar astronomy, using the
Apollo Telescope Mount; earth resources, using the
camera and sensor package; biomedical, involving the
crew and several items of equipment; and another large
group called the corollary experiments.

SATURN WORKSHOP

Each of these major areas, with their various experiments,
must be fitted into the crew's work day. Conducting
earth resources experiments will depend upon the orbital
position of Skylab and the condition of the cloud cover
on earth. When the solar astronomy experiments are
being conducted, the ATM consoles must be manned dur­
ing every daylight pass. However, solar flares or other
sun conditions might call for manning the console at odd
hours.
Two out of every three days, each crewman will be a sub­
ject in the various medical experiments. At other times
he will monitor equipment while another crewman is the
subject.

Element

Command
and Service
Module

Function

Crew Ascent
&amp; Descent

The one period in which the astronauts will attempt to
stop work and get together will be the dinner hour. At
this time they can take a look at the flight plan and
tighten up loose ends.

Docking
Interface

Apollo
Telescope
Mount

Airlock
Module/Fixed
Airlock Shroud

Instrument
Unit

Orbital
Workshop

Solar
Observation

Power Control
&amp; Distribution

Launch
Vehicle
Control

Primary Living
&amp; Working Area

Environmental
Control

ATM/EREP
Controls
&amp; Displays

Experiment
Laboratory

Utility Center
Stowage

Data System

SKYLAB OBJECTIVES
President Nixon: "...the Skylab... will be aimed not at
advancing the exploration of deep space, but at gaining in
space new knowledge for the improvement of life here on
Earth.
It will help develop new methods of learning
about the Earth's environment and the Earth's resources,
and new methods of evaluating programs aimed at pre­
serving and enhancing the resources of all the world. It
will seek new knowledge about our star, the Sun, and
about its tremendous influence on" our environment."

Extravehicular
Activity Port
Length (ft)

34.3

17.3

13.3

17.6

3.0

48.1

Diameter (ft)

13.0

10.0

-

10.0

21.5

21.6

366

1,140

~

613

~

9,550

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SYSTEMS DEBRIEFING
(COMMAND AND SERVICE MODULE/
SATURN WORKSHOP)

PREPARED BY
TEST DIVISION
PROGRAM OPERATIONS OFFICE

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NOTICE: This document may be exempt from public disclosure
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National Aeronautics and Space Administration

LYNDON B. JOHNSON SPACE CENTER
Houston, Texas

MARCH 6-7, 1974

�SKYLAB 1/U
SYSTEMS DEBRIEFING

This document is a verbatim transcription of the postflight command
and service module/Saturn workshop systems debriefing conducted by the
Skylab h crew at the Johnson Space Center on March 6 and 7, I971*- Where
possible, questioners have been identified by their last names. However,
the attendees and questioners are too numerous to identify or list here.
The astronaut participants are as follows.

Gerald P. (Jerry) Carr
William R. (Bill) Pogue
Edward G. (Ed) Gibson

CARR

t'OGUE
GTBSON

•

Commander
Pilot
Scientist Pilot

The subjects for this portion of the debriefings are listed as
follows.

Command and service module
Electrical Power, Fuel Cells and Cryogenics, Propulsion,
and Batteries
Structures, Mechanical, Thermal and Docking
Environmental Control, and CSM Crew Station
Guidance, Control, and Rendezvous
Communications and Television
Operational Cameras and Photography
Launch Vehicle and Emergency Detection System
Saturn workshop
Instrumentation and Communications
Structures and Mechanics
Contamination
Thermal/Environmental Control Systems
Electrical Power System
Attitude Pointing and Control System
Crew Systems
EVA Systems and Operations
In-Flight Maintenance
A series of three dots (...) is used to designate those portions of

the communications that could not be transcribed because of garbling.
One dash (-) is used to indicate a speaker's pause or a self-interruption
and subsequent completion of a thought. Two dashes (- -) are used to
indicate an interruption by another speaker or a point at which a re­
cording was terminated abruptly.
ii

�SYSTEMS DEBRIEFHG
Morning Session
JOHNSON

I'm Jerry Johnson . . . on the sequential subsystem.

To

start off with, we thought you might be interested in
looking at what we found on the circuit breaker.
QUERY

Flip your switch and'... you get through.

JOHNSON

We thought you might be interested in seeing what we found
out on the circuit breaker.

CARR

Okay, good.

JOHNSON

The BAT A circuit breaker.
X-rays here.

I've got some photographs and

These are X-rays of the breaker before it

was taken apart.

And here's a normal breaker and this is

the CB-20, which is the BAT A breaker, and as you can see
this bottom contact here is canted.

It should be flat

like you see here - CARR

Oh, yes.

JOHNSON

- - for the contact.
are on a slant.

And what happens is the top contacts

Well, as the breaker comes down, it contact

on the outer edge; and then as you push it all the way in
and it latches, it rolls over to a new surface area in the

�*

JOHNSON
(CONT'D)

middle.

Well, in this particular one, when you close it -

I have the views reversed here - As you can see, it just
barely makes contact here on this one little edge, instead
of being flat or over in the middle on a bigger surface
area.

And another view of the pictures, of what that does

on the contacts themselves.
that contact.

As you can see here, this is

Normally, what you'd expect to see - here's

a breaker here, is as you close it, it makes contact and
then it rolls to a new area.

In effect, it makes contact -

a normal contact like over here, would make here an arc you always have an arc involved.

And then as you mash it

on in, it rolls over to a new, clean surface area.

Well,

on this particular one, it was always coming down and stay­
ing in this one spot; it stayed right there.

So it was

actually always hitting on this - where the arc is.
CARR

So we essentially did have contamination just - -

JOHNSON

Right.

CARR

- - because it didn't roll.

JOHNSON

Right.

Now this area over here - we found out what causes

that is, when you push in additionally, like we were having
you do, it would flex it on over here to a new area.
CARR

I see.

See?

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JOHNSON

That's what was causing that.

And the reason we mentioned

to you to - on the load test - Well, mainly, the reason
we first mentioned the cycling is we thought if it was
normal configuration you should have been getting seme
sort of wiping action.

But that wasn't happening; so

on the ground in a few of these cases when we put a load
on it and cycled it, it was reasonably clear.

Something -

in terms of surface contamination or something.

So that's

the reason we went ahead and asked you to run a load test
of 20 amps or so.

CABR

Okay.

Well, I'm sure glad you were able to find good

proof positive of why we had the problem.

That's great,

JOHNSON

There was definitely a problem with that surface.

GIBSON

When you cycled it and it finally worked, what really
happened?

JOHNSON

Did you - -

The only thing I can think of is - what we think of is
if you arc in here enough to - throw this material out of
the way enough to finally get down to - -

GIBSON

Good metal to metal, huh?

POGUE

One side isn't enough, huh?

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�JOHNSON

No.

P01UE

And out the other, huh?

JOHNSON

See, the current flows into one side and

. . . and back out the other.
have to have both sides.

See?

So you actually

So even though the one side

was good, all it took was one of them being bad there
to mess it up.

CARR

Yes.

JOHNSON

But you're right; we definitely found something wrong
with it.

:ARR

Well, I guess our conclusion was that in the future,
when we test batteries and things like that, that maybe
we shouldn't be happy with just open circuit voltage;
that we should make sure that a system will carry a load,
and that maybe we should change our way of testing things
in the future and make them carry a few amps too, as well
Just check and make sure their voltage is good.

Because

heaven only knows when that first got to the point where
it wouldn't carry a load.

It could have been on day U

or something.

JOHNSON

Yes, I think I agree with you, particularly in a long
mission like that.

And where we got the capability to

�JOHNSON
(CONT'D)

charge the batteries back up, there's probably - it actually
gives the battery people - they might want to comment,
but it actually gives them a better data point here in the
mission, too, I think, if that's done.

Doesn't it, Bob?

BRAGG

I would like to - -

QUERY

Get a mike, Bob.

BRAGG

I would like to make one comment; my name's Bob Bragg.
Would like to make one - there is a reason that we - at
least from the battery standpoint, that we have been look­
ing at open circuit.

And that is that for a solar-sync

battery you can tell more about its status and what its
status is by watching the open circuit than you necessarily
can under a load test.

And we - this was established

pretty early in the mission, that this was how we wanted
to do it.
thing else.

Now, to tell - continuity of a circuit is some­
And you're probably right; you do need - if

there is a question that we will not be able to get a con­
tinuous circuit - QUERY

Right.

BRAGG

- - we'll be able to do something like that, I guess.

CARR

Okay.

So we shouldn't say when we're testing batteries, we

want to carry a load; it's more to test a circuit.

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�BRAGG

Yes, on the battery standpoint, that's right

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

Okay, we do have a couple of questions here.

Okay.
One thing we

want to know is, after splashdown - of course, we don't
have any data on the DSC at that time, or any airborne
data, because we killed the main buses.

But we wanted to

know, did you notice any - if you were doing any checks
on the battery currents or voltages, did you notice any
indication of a high drain or any indication of flicker
lights, like a short or something, momentarily?

o

POOUE

After splash?

QUERY

Yes, after you were on the water, or like in stable II.

POGUE

I certainly didn't do any checking, and I did not notice
any flashing.

Jer would have been in a better position

than the - to notice flashing.

You had the only lights on.

CARR

Yes.

I didn't notice any flashing at all.

QUERY

Well, what prompted the question was that the engineers
out at Rockwell had noted that on the circuits associated
with the four SPS circuit breakers that the pins were either
missing or just a corroded piece left.

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Of course, what

�QUERY
(CONT'D)

happened is they had - they came off the battery bus up­
stream of the main bus and they still had power on.

And

in the salt water, there was probably a current drain on
that circuit.

Now it wasn't enough to open the circuit

breakers, because they were still closed.

But we Just

wondered whether you had see any indication on board of
any current or something.
CARR

I didn't notice a thing that would indicate it.

It was

such a bright, clear day that any - you know, the postlanding floods - you didn't even really know they were on.
QUERY

Right.

Okay.

The other question we had goes back up

around CSM SEP time and has to do with Ed - Ed made a com­
ment ; at the time he hit the manual RCS TRANSFER switch,
he heard a noise.

Was that more of a click or clack or

Just kind of a zip noise?
(Laughter)
GIBSON

. . . my choice?

QUERY
GIBSON

Just a dull muffled thud which - I suspected at the time it
was due to a relay closure somewhere.
be a - may have been something else.

It may or may not

�QUERY

Well, the reason for I was asking for kind of - the motor
switches we have in the vehicle kind of give you a zip you know - type thing when they get .. . -

CTB30N

No, it was more of a - -

QUERY

Relays have more of a click or clack.

GIBSON

- - . . . muffled.

QUERY

Okay.

Well, in looking at the data, of course, it - we

have indications that both of the RCS TRANSFER motor switches
did transfer.
GIBSON

Okay.

QUERY

Because one of the motor switches gives you RING 1, AUTO
and both SYSTEMS DIRECT, and the other one gives you RING 2,
AUTO and both SYSTEMS DIRECT.

And we saw on the ROLL circuit

both RING 1 and RING 2 indications come up on the data,
which indicated - right at transfer - we did get both RCS
TRANSFER motor switches.
CARR

That's auto transfer?

QUERY

Right.

GIBSON

Okay.

Auto transfer.
Must be - -

8

�Well, it looks like - I got with Chuck Finch, and looking
at the data, it looks like - right at the time in the trans­
cripts where you indicate you were throwing the switch and
heard the noise, it looks like we picked up - an RCS engine
valve being picked up for the first time.

In other words,

Jer always actually had operated the hand controller and
picked up a valve, so that could have been a clank in the
solenoid.

And it looks like it's almost exactly at the

same time.

So as soon as I hit the switch, I heard something and Jerry
got firing and I thought that was i t .
Yes .
Okay ... - It looks like ... what happened.
Yes.

We - after finally realizing what the problem was,

why we didn't get that - those auto coils, then I was
willing to back off and say, well, then maybe we misinter­
preted the data when we decided we hadn't gotten auto
transfer.

And of course, the sound that Ed heard - -

�GIBSON

That was the only thing that led me to believe, other
than the fact that he didn't get firings, that we did not
get an auto transfer.

QUERY

Right.

Well, when we read that in the debriefing, that's

when I went back very carefully to see that; because if
one of those motor switches hadn't trasferred when you
hit that switch, of course, you would then have transferred
one.
CARR

Yes .

QUERY

And it would've been more of a zipping sort of noise like
a real fast running ... Well, you've probably heard the
motor switches go, I'm sure, in the command module; they've
kind of got a little zip to them or something.

But the

data had indicated they'd already transferred, and then
a couple at the back we located.
CARR

Okay, that all sounds fine; that all sounds good to us.

QUERY

Okay.

That's all the questions we have on the electro-

power distribution.

Now the battery and fuel cell people

are here too, and - but if there's any questions you fellows
have -

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�QUERY

Fine.

Go ahead ...

QUERY

Well, we don't have any more on the power, but we do have
one general question on the RCS ... subsystem manager.

QUERY

You got it.

QUERY

One other question we want to address to you guys is of
general nature.

One of the things that always interests

us with hyperbolic direction control system is contamination.
This is a big concern in the Shuttle Program too.

We're

wondering if at any time during your excursions outside,
or even inside at the windows or anything, you noticed
^

anything on the order of contamination that you might have
attributed to a RCS activity.

We had a pretty good lot of

it this time with big burns, we did.

So it's a good data

point to see if we actually got anything that was detectable
srt this . ..
GIBSON

Yes, we did.

We could see on the outside of the total

cluster a darkening of all the light colored surfaces.
One was - we attributed it to two reasons:

One was solar,

and we could tell that by shadowing effect, and the other
was some sort of a contaminant which was getting all over
the outside of the vehicle.

And we know it was a contam­

inant by seeing it on the command module windows.

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that ... - 11

And

�QUERY

It wasn't - it was permanent; it wasn't temporary in nature?
It was permanent?

GIBSON

Yes.

It Just increased as the mission went on.

To try to

associate that in time with the RCS burns we made, that we
did not try to do.
CARR

When I went out on EVA and went over the Sun end of the ATM
and took those pictures of the command module, I definitely
saw contaminants around the RCS quads.

It looked to me

like it was probably - had - you know, was definitely con­
nected with the RCS quads.
QUERY

Now we expect it in the plume shape ... That's more of a
thermal discoloration than a contaminant.

But you're dif­

ferentiating those two.
CARR

No, I wasn't.

QUERY

Okay.

CARR

But you could see what looked like - -

QUERY

This is one of the pictures you took, and what I see there
I would expect that - -

CARR

Yes, there are some better pictures than that, Dwayne.
think that - is that a little bit fuzzy?

12

I

I think what that

�CARR
(CONT'D)

is ... 16 millimeter frame that's been blown up to a still.
I got several Nikon frames of the command module with the
35-millimeter lens, which ought to be much better photo­
graphy.
good.

And the exposures on that particular frame are not

The contamination that you could see does not show

up in the l6-millimeter film.
QUERY

A better indication might even be the comment you made on
windows.

CARR

Yes.

Something right around - -

You got the word about what we saw on the windows in

the water?

We had film over the windows, and as they got

into contact with the sea water, it wrinkled up, much like
a top on a custard or something like that.
QUERY

CARR

No, we didn't.

That's interesting.

And then after a while, as the swimmers moved around there
and sloshed water up on it, touched the window and every­
thing, all this contamination was gradually washed away or
bunched up into sort of like ...

GIBSON

It looked like there was enough left over to get a sample,
though, and I'm wondering whether anybody did try to get a
sample of contamination.

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�QUERY

No, I looked over the thing pretty good.

You know, we got

it back in the hanger there, and there wasn't anything on
it at that time.
GIBSON

Is that right?

QUERY

Yes.

QUERY

Well, they might have even washed it down.

GIBSON

Oh boy.

CARR

But the windows were very definitely - command module windows

We were hoping you'd be able to ... - -

very definitely had a film of contaminant on them that we
could see from the inside.

When you got on low Sun angle

you could see that there was sort of a tan cr beige con­
tamination on the window.

And you could tell just by the

reflection of the light.
QUERY

It's a shame we didn't get some of that.

GIBSON

That occurred quite early in the mission too.

QUERY

Was there any particular change once - right after that oh, your two longer burns, 80-second and 180-second burn?

GIBSON

We didn't try to make that correlation; it would have been
useful to do, but we didn't.
lit

�CARR

I don't know how we could've made any correlation.

It was

Just a gradual buildup, so that near the end of the mission
you could look out the window and you'd say, boy, there's
sure a lot of crud on the windows, and it wasn't that way
in the beginning of the mission.
GIBSON

We might have been able to take pictures at the same
time, before sunset, before and after the burn.

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

Very good.

Okay, that's all I had.

Now you guys had

some questions about all the things that transpired in the
^

RCS system.
CARR

We'd be glad to try and - -

I think we've been pretty well clued in on RCS and what
the deal was, the ring 2 problem, and of course, the one
we induced ourselves that gave us a little trouble for a
while until we got into the direct mode.

QUERY

You got the story on the valves ...

GIBSON

Yes.

I guess one question I still have on the leakage

we had on the helium.

We saw it come down, and it appeared

as though it came down to close to 2000 pounds, and start
to level out.

And this applied to the people on the

ground as well as to us, if we really had a propellent
leak as opposed to a - -

�a&gt;
QUERY
GIBSON
QUERY

No.

helium leak.

That was initial decay?

Yes, it was almost an - exactly a theoretical orifice
blowdown, a gas-helium blowdown.
perfect curve all the way down.

We plotted it later and
It ended up, actually,

600 when the guys got it on the carrier and bled it off.
It was a - And we pretty well knew that, even in real
time.

And there were communication problems.

Some of

the problems we were sure you guys found ... you probably
know about.

But we looked at that thing; we said, hey,

we're 95 to 98 percent sure that's helium.
effects we saw looked like helium.
did foul us up:

But one thing that

Every so often one of you would say,

hey, there goes some more ice.
GIBSON

All the

And we were a little - -

We tried to make that clear that we saw that before.
We had - -

MS
CARR

There was one place where you didn't hear us, and that
was - -

QUERY

So we got a little edgy ... what are the consequences,
you say.

And you just go ahead.

We used ... rings all

the time, because I know on the mode, the ... mode, you

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�had the backup going.
quences.

And there were no adverse conse­

On the other hand, if you'd gone the other way,

there were some ... problems, so that I ... well let's
Just play it safe and not worry about it.
the decision went.

And that's how

But it's unfortunate that the word

got to you, obviously, later, that we felt it was a propellant leak.
Yes, that Just had us wondering about where the propel­
lent leak was.
We had a communication problem over here, between this
desk and over there.

And then the problem with you guys -

so we had little minutes here and there, and bad communi­
cations ... but we were Just playing it fat and cozy, is
what we were doing.
Okay.

No problem operationally on the STS.

It was Just

that we thought propellants might be floating around - -

Yes, well if it had been ... it would've dumped them.

It

would've had to dump that whole fuel into that ... bag,
which would have been a little problem handling.
why we tried to get the message to you.

That's

You know, you

might've wanted to put your masks on so you don't have to
worry about fume ingestion, things like that.

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�CARR

Yes ... - -

QUERY

But that got kind of fouled up.

CARR

Yes, we never got that word.

We found out later that we

had decided not to wear the masks.
RCS system just occurred to me.

One question on the

We had you know that

quad Bravo problem, PSM to the quad.
lem?

What was the prob­

It was never absolutely clear to me just exactly

what our problem was.

I was under the impression it was

an isol valve.

QUERY

Yes, the propellant isolation valve, the oxidizer, ran
out or they filled on quad Bravo.

That is, the propellant

isolation valve was crosstalking with the manifold pres­
sure early in the mission.

It wasn't a gross leak, but

every time the pressures would go up on one, you could
see them reflected in the other and they were - there was
a little bit of lag situation.

So we knew £t was just a

leak, and we debated a long time on whether you really
wanted to perturbate the procedures in doing something
about it.

The idea we finally came up vita was, we could go

ahead and use the PSM to quad propellant isolation valve
which was holding good.

Then we could still isolate all

the quad propellant and saturate all the other quad systems

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�QUERY
(CONT'D)

from that quad; so if you developed a leak in another
quad for instance or another - any place other than line,
you wouldn't leak quad B propellant through that valve
you thought was closed out.

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

it was Just a scheme to positively contain all of our
propellants and know where they were all of the times for
propellant management.

There was a - As it turns out,

it was probably just a small piece of contamination kind of leak and typical of the isolation valves.

Then

it wasn't a great concern and it caused a little bit of
perturbation of procedures but that's all.

That was all

about - propellant management was what we were trying
to do.
CARR

Okay.

QUERY

Any more on propellants?

QUERY

We don't have anything.

QUERY

You get the thermal and SMD?

QUERY

QUERY

You have any fuel cells?

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No, that was propellant.

�QUERY

No, we didn't have any.

CARR

We got an extra day out of those fuel cells, didn't we?
It seems to me we shut them down a day later.

QUERY

No.

CARR

Didn't we?

QUEF'1

No&gt;

didn't.

we

We got about 18-1/2 days; actually, a

little bit less ...
CARR

Okay.

QUKRY

You

Just had that one thermal question, P.D.?

Yes, . . . if he has - he has another question . . .
QUERY

Like t0

pursue this contamination a little bit further.

We looked at - QUERY

Mike.

Leave the mike open.

QUERY

Okay.

QUERY

We looked at that l6-millimeter film - -

QUERY

You have to turn your switch on.

QUERY

Okay?

There you go.

We looked at the l6-millimeter film and we've seen

some things on this film frame, this one picture that we
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�QUERY
(CONT'D)

have a print of.

We'd like for you to look at it and see

if you could explain what we think we see.

CARR

Our problem is that picture is so bad that it really
doesn't show too much of what was there.

I -would hope

that you could get the Nikon photography pretty quick
here, and I'm told that the color on that is a lot better.
Yes.

That's the sort of stuff we saw.

QUERY

Is this a charred section that ... black or could you tell?

CARR

I couldn't tell.

I didn't really have time to look at it

closely, but I didn't have the impression that it was
charred.
QUERY

What about this section in here?

Is that - -

CARR

That looked to me like it was kind of oily.

QUERY

Oily?

And what about from here down through here?

Looks

like we have some dribbling of seme sort in here.
CARR

Yes.

I noticed that too and didn't have a feel for what

it was.

But it looked like something had come out of

that area there and was just kind of eating the paint.
QUERY

Did it look like it had eaten the paint?

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�)
CARR

Yes.

There was - it was a stain or a smear on there that

was covering the paint Just like that photo shows you.
That's a pretty good photo.

It shows that stuff is there,

but the coloring is wrong because everything is darker.
All these white surfaces that you see are more gold or
beige than you see there.

These pictures - the 16 milli­

meters - apparently we Just didn't have the f-stop right,
and everything got overexposed and is much whiter than
it ought to be.

And like I say, I'm told the Nikon stuff

is darker-looking photography and said if it's darker,
it's probably more correct than the 16 millimeter.

And

I think I took two or three frames of the command module
from that same position that that movie was taken from.
That was - I crawled out over the Sun end of the ATM
and Just essentially let go and took as many pictures as
T could before I had to grab again to make sure I didn't
drift away.
QUERY

On the same EVA as this one?

CARR

Yes, um-hum.

QUERY

Thanks.

QUERY

That's the only question that we had.

We do have the Earth

landing system people and mechanical systems people in
case you have any questions for us.
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�)
CARR

No.

The ELS just worked like a champ.

GIBSON

What do the pictures show in the landing as to why we got
the stable II?

From us, subjectively, inside, it appears

as though we hit and immediately went stable II.

And it

wasn't being - because we were dragged over at all; it
was just the dynamics of the hit.

I wonder if one of

those pictures shows the same thing.
IANGLEY

I'm Art Langley.

We certainly didn't expect you to go

into stable II, but it's not unfeasible if you hit the
wave slope at the proper time.

It's quite common that

you can flip at that particular time.
CARR

It sure had ... - -

GIBSON

Did you see the motion pictures?

Were they able to show

anything, or was - QUERY

There are not any available.

GIBSON

Okay.

CARR

In area structures, I must say that the folding and un­
folding, the stowage and unstowage, of the center couch
was extremely easy, much easier than one g.

Of course,

you know one g is - that's a hernia operation, and in
zero g, it's just a piece of cake.
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And it was typical

�CARR
(CONT'D)

of any high-inertia situation in zero.

The large, massive

pieces of equipment with high inertia are much easier to
manage in zero g than are the little pieces.

And the

Y/Y strut, which is nothing but trouble over in the
simulators Just worked beautifully in the Spacecraft.
But everything worked well from a structural standpoint,
you know, whatever structural pieces we had to fool with.
The hatch worked Just fine; it was sort of a snuggy fit,
working it up into the tunnel and getting it in there.
But again, that was no great problem either.

The probe -

is that part of your structural area?
QUERY

Yes it is.

CARR

Wopked according to Hoyle.
photographed it.

The drogue situation - Bill

Have you had a chance to see the

photographs yet?
QUERY

No.

Not the drogue - photographs of the marks on the

drogue.
POGUE

I have not seen them either - sort have been interested
to take a look at than.

CARR

That drogue really took a beating.

We're interested to

know whether or not we added any scratches to it or

2h

�CARR
(CONT'D)

whether it was already there, because I really battered
that workshop on that when we finally got captured.

I

wasn't about to drift back out of there again and I
really rammed it.
POGUE

Yes, but I don't think you hit it that hara, Jer.

Anyway

we got some good photos.
QUERY

Any more questions?

Why don't we give these to Gibson,

the SPT.
CARR

Okay.

Thank you.

QUERY

As long as the ... S people are on their way over they'll
probably have some good questions from them.

CARR

Do you know if the SWS systems people have been alerted
that there's a good chance of starting early?

QUERY

Yes.

CARR

That's what you guys get for designing such a good system.
It worked so well that there's nothing to talk about.

QUERY

We like it better that way.

QUERY

At the end of the - -

CARR

Is your mike on there?

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�QjJERY

At the end of the deactivation and after tunnel closeout,
Jerry mentioned that you were concerned about not doing
the PGA suit integrity check.

You were aware then that

the CSM suit circuit integrity check - if you have a
successful suit circuit integrity check, you don't need
to do the PGA?
CARR

That's what I thought, but reading the checklist indicated
it and inferred to me that we were supposed to do one and
then go back and pick up and do the other.

And that's

the way I read it and it bothered me because it seemed
to me having done the suit circuit check we were sure - QUERY

This then appears that we may need to make a clarification
on the next CSM trip ...

CARR

I wasn't about to do it anyway because I didn't figure
the time and I thought the suits were good and tight.

QUERY

We had a good suit circuit integrity check then.

There

is no reason to do the PGA itself.
CARR

I guess the only other thing in ECS on that day that
really bothered us was that doggone flapper valve that
hung up.

We had to throw on two suit compressors and

then pop that - -

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�QUERY

We have the CSM subsystem manager, Don Helves5 he'll be
here shortly.

CARR

Okay.

Q UERY

Okay, could you speculate on what might have caused the
damage to the overwrap of the LiOH element which was
rejected.

CARR

You know you changed out the - -

Those two canisters were just rattling around loose in
A-6, and we were putting pieces of equipment in there and
taking them out all through the mission.
Just bumped it and scarred it.

And I think we

What we did was we pushed

the plastic up against something sharp or hard inside,
v

We Just ended up lacerating it.

And I wasn't sure -

Well, the fact that the plastic was puffed out instead of
sucked in tight like most of the canisters was enough for
me to think about it.

And I went over and looked in that

locker 151 or whatever the locker number is.

There was

a thousand canisters in there and so I just picked a nice
looking one and took it.

I had so many things to choose

from that I didn't worry about it.

But I think all we did

was - let's see, the Dewar cooler S192 was in there and
it's got lots of sharp protrusions on it.

That was

rather rattling around in A-6 with these two LiOH canisters.

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Si'

�CARR
(CONT'D)

And the S009 was in there Just floating around.

So

everytime you'd open that locker to get something, you'd
bump those things.

You know they play pinball machine

for the next 2 hours, bumping into each othe»", and so I
think that's the reason.
QUERY

I would like to hold these other two questions in abey­
ance until they get here.

QUERY

Okay, I only have two very quick questions to work out.
In your technical debriefing you reported your problem
involving the VERB b6 coming off the SIVB, and we were
wondering how you achieved the plus-X translation or
did you not have any plus-X translation when you came
off?

Because you shouldn't have had any if you were in

CMC control without having done the VERB U6.

You were

still on the ... DAP and it wouldn't accept any plus-X
translations.
CARR

Good point; hadn't thought about that.

QUERY

What did you mean when you say, "We pickled off."

That's

a new term to me.
CARR

That's a close-air support pilot's term.
punched the button that fired vis off.

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That means we

Pickling off the

�CARR
(CONT'D)

bombs - There's a pickle on the top of your stick on your
airplane.

You punch the button and that pickles off the

bombs or whatever it is you're shooting.

So what we did

is we threw the switches to sep from the workshop, I
mean from the SIVB and I frankly don't remember if I had
plus X or not; it's been so long ago.
QUERY

You didn't use DIRECT VOLTAGE?

You would have remembered

that.
CARR

Yes!

That's right.

But the thing is we did separate

from the workshop - the SIVB.

And I felt no problem

there.
CARR

And I don't even know whether I got plus-X or even tried
to use it.

But the thing was, when you're going to start

the pitch maneuver, you're supposed to start it in
ACCEL COMMAND and then throw it to RATE COMMAND when you
got CMC AUTO to pick it up for you.

The thing there, as

I remember, was just to make sure that you started pitch­
ing in the direction that you wanted to.
QUERY

Yes.

CARR

And when I threw it back to RATE COMMAND, then CMC AUTO
ground to a halt.

y

And so the only thing I could think of

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�CARR
(CONT 'D)

to do was to do another VERB 1*6 to make sure the DAP knew
it was driving and it was going to pay attention to the
VERB 1*9 data that I put in there.

And it worked.

So I

assumed that what I had done was probably right; then the
next time I did it, it worked perfectly.
QUERY

We don't think that there was any sort of a problem with
DAP or anything because it worked so fine the rest of the
mission.

CARR

Well, I don't understand why that son of a gun ground to
a halt on me because - -

QUERY

Well, it would depend upon several factors.

We don't

have the data to go through the sequence of events, the
time line of mode changing, and so forth, but we attempted
to reconstruct what might have happened that would have
explained it, and if you had done a VERB 1(6 and then
followed that after you get the maneuver started, follow
that with PRO, PRO on your VERB 1*9, you would have to do
them in that order because VERB 1*6 -

If you had PROed on

your VERB 1*9 first and then did your VERB 1*6, that would
just put you into an attitude-hold mode and it wouldn't
attempt to drive you back in anyway.

So you would have

had to do the PRO, PRO after you'd done the VERB 1*6.

And

then that would depend upon what sign of attitude errors

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�QUERY
(CONT'D)

you had at the time.

If you had a positive attitude

error, then it would attempt to pitch you up and you had
Just commanded the pitch down maneuver; so they would be
then in opposite directions and would stop the rate and
attempt to drive you back the other way.

So it would be

a function of what the sign of your attitude errors and
how many errors there were at the time.

Of course, we

have no way of knowing.
CARR

Yes ; well, that must have been it.

QUERY

But procedurally, you can cause a ... to occur.

CARR

Kind of off of that thing, the VERB 1+6 should have been
done way back around tower jett.

We put VERB 1+6 in twice

in the boost card.
QUERY

Yes, and your checklist prior to sep, called for it again.

CARR

Yes.

And then, we called the undock DAP, don't we, prior

to sep?

We set up the undock DAP and we're supposed to

do another VERB 1+6 and that's the one - I figured when it
did work right, I figured, well, I must have forgot to do
a VERB 1+6 after I loaded the DAP.
over again and everything worked.

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So I did it and started

�GIBSON

When we finally turned around, we were pretty far out,
so I'm sure we got seme plus-X.

How we got it in there,

I'm not sure.
CARR

Yes.

QUERY

You may have very well done it twice then, especially if
you had any appreciable separation distance.

CARR

Yes.

We had good separation distance.

There was no

question that we were well separated from the workshop,
I mean from the SIVB.
QUERY

Okay.

That's kind of a tricky procedure and there's

several things that you can do that can dork [?] it up.
CARR

Yes.

QUERY

We've had a problem with it before.

CARR

It was no big thing, you know.

I was prepared to just

go ahead and do the whole thing in either ACCEL COMMAND
or MIN IMPULSE, but it was kind of a surprise to have it
grind to a halt after I had already set up the rates.
QUERY

Okay.

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�CARR

And then I was willing to accept - Just doing a VERB h6
solved the problem, so I was willing to accept that
possibility that I had probably forgotten to do a VERB U6
after I loaded the DAP.

QUERY

If you could have remembered whether or not you had
gotten plus-X, that would have told us whether or not you
had done the first one or not, but it's kind of academic.
The only other question we had:

We would like to verify,

if you can for us, there was no other TRACKER fail light
that occurred during the mission other than the one you
had during the rendezvous sequence around the NC-1?
CARR

Man, I'd forgotten we even had that.

QUERY

Well, you made no mention of it.

CARR

The data's so bad and the tapes are so bad during the
rendezvous - You know, we tried to do the tech debrief­
ing, and we can't remember the rendezvous very well.
It was apparently so nominal.

And so we asked them to

bring us over the tapes so we could listen to them and
they were so lousy we couldn't figure out what had
happened there either; so I'm sorry to say the rendezvous
is pretty hazy in our minds.

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And I knew something else

�CARR
(CONT'D)

was - we had a problem and that's it - the TRACKER fail
light - and I don't think we ever had it again.

QUERY

Okay.

CARR

If we did, I'm sure we would have told you.

QUERY

We didn't see any evidence of it in the data, but, of
course, there's a lot of periods we don't get clearly
when the G&amp;N is OFF.

CARR

I don't remember seeing another one.

QUERY

All right.

G&amp;N guys just now walked in so unless they

have any other questions, I guess we're through.
QUERY

You had something about the CU fail.

Do you happen to

remember when you had the TRACKER fail - You may not be
able to recall it, but when you had the TRACKER fail, did
you ever go back and see if the T packs really read zero
at that time?
CARR

Yes.

I'm pretty sure.

Isn't that one of the steps in

the malf procedures?
QJERY

Yes.

CARR

And I remember we got the malfs out and went through them
very carefully.
3b

�y,

QUERY

There's a question in our minds.

You thought you did

and that would help us solve the problem?

CARR

Yes.

I do remember that one thing - making sure that

the T packs went to zero and we called NOUN 92 I think
it was to make sure that the CMC was commanding to zero,
as well as the T packs being in zero, and it seems to me,
Ed, you were down in the hold then at that time and I was
having you verify those things to me.

GIBSON

Yes.

QUERY

The

I remember that.

call went up when the problem disappeared that you

were in the process of doing a 52.

I believe you recall

that you do not know when it went out, when the TRACKER
fail light went out.

CARR

Yes, it must be.

QUERY

Okay.

GIBSON

A long time ago.

CARR

B°y&gt;

Is that true?

I can't remember.

Thank you.

I'll say.

It's pretty bad when you can't even

remember the anomalies.

(Laughter)

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�QUERY

We appreciate the good words about the G&amp;N system in
your tech debriefing.

CARR

Well, it worked like a champ the whole time and when we
flunked that horizon check on the shaping burn, I was
supremely confident the G&amp;N system was GO, because we
had just gotten finished doing a start check and Ed said
he could probably mark on the start without even going to
O
MANUAL. And I was supremely confident that we had a good
G&amp;N; I'll tell you, the guys in Flight Control are still
scratching their heads as to why we didn't - why we missed
the horizon check by 8 degrees.

Doesn't make sense at

all, but it happened.
QUERY

If you're interested, I have that strip chart of the
separation problem prior to entry if you'd like to look
at it, but that's all I have.

CARR

I think we understand pretty well now just what happened
there.

I might also add that when we were using the

system for the trim burns, it was really nice.

We could

call up NOUN 56 and take a look at the rates, and it's
really pretty nice when you can finish up a burn with the
command module driving that whole big logging truck and
you're reading four balls and a small number for your
rates.

5)

The old CSM DAP was just doing a magnificent job.

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�QUERY

That's the last on that?

CARR

Go ahead.

QUERY

On the ECS secondary coolant loop checkout at ... to

Then let's get back to ECS.

insertion, the evaporator steam pressure dropped to
lower limits.

In an attempt to obtain a satisfactory

operation, you noted that twice you obtained steam
pressures of 0.15 to 0.16 psi by going to the RESET
position of the SECONDARY COOLANT LOOP, EVAPORATOR and
RESET switch, but you were unable to sustain the proper
pressure or cause the evaporator outlet temperature to
come down.

During these attempts, do you recall if you

returned the switch to EVAP or OFF position after each
of these partial closing of the back pressure valve?

GIBSON

First - As I recall, we went back to the EVAP the first
or perhaps the first two times; didn't get it to work.
And then went to the RESET to close the valve and then
went to OFF and that's when I recall it working.

That's

pretty hazy recollection.
QUERY

What we're trying to ask, did you leave it in the OFF or
the RESET position for any length of time?

GIBSON

We didn't leave it in RESET position for a long length of
time.

What?

58 seconds it says.
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Oh, that's for the

�GIBSON
(CONT'D)

primary.

It's close to that for the secondary, I guess,

so it'll drive it full scale.
QUERY

But it only operates in AUTO mode when you're in AUTO
and - -

GIBSON

Yes.

QUERY

- - and the RESET only closes the valve and shuts down
everything else and OFF shuts down everything and appar­
ently what happened when you left it in OFF, it dried out.
Or did you leave it in RESET for any length of time;
that's what we really - -

GIBSON

On the order of a minute or two at the most.

QUERY

Because in the RESET, the water flow valve is inhibited
and it cannot drain.

GIBSON

Okay.

It was only in RESET for on the order of a minute

or two at the most.
QUERY

Okay.

GIBSON

I think that was - Now I don't recall the explicit
action of doing that, but I remember that's the way we
were trained and that's the way we understood the system.

QUERY

Yes.

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�GIBSON

Whenever we went to -

Q'ffiRY

Well, the primary works when you can control it in the
manual position and the secondary cannot be controlled
in the manual.

GIBSON

Yes.

POGUE

Yes; we knew that.

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�3

GIBSON

Okay.

I'm giving you the best guess of recollection;

that's more about the way we were trained than - QUERY

Your training was in the primary mode at the Cape in the
chambers?

GIBSON

Yes.

QUERY

And evidently you thought you could do that with the
secondary.

GIBSON

Yes, probably so.

QUERY

I had to look it up to finally realize you couldn't do it.
(Laughter)

And then number 2 was during ECS systems

reactivation, the water glycol evaporator servicing pro­
cedure.

Apparently, it was interrupted due to the flapper

valve operation with the CDR's suit flow control soaking
valve, and our ground data indicated that considerable
excess water was added to the primary evaporator.

And

that after the flapper was sticking, the secondary evap­
orator was serviced nominally.

Your self-debriefing

indicated that the SECONDARY EVAPORATOR WATERFLOW switch
was left in the ON position for maybe 30 minutes due to
interruptions.

CARR

No, that was the PRIMARY.
1*0

�QUERY

Yes, that's really our good question.

CARR

The SECONDARY was left a little more than the 3 minutes,
but it wasn't significantly more.

But the PRIMARY was

right in the center of that big flapper valve flap, if
you'll pardon the expression.

And 32, I started the det

and it was reading 32 and I remembered that we should
have turned that switch to the other position.

QUERY

We did experience quite unusual startup activity on the
primary coolant - -

CARR

I would expect so, with that much water in there.

QUERY

I think that's because of your pipe - pipelines.

CARR

Yes.

I thought about that when we saw the ice.

I figured

that that's what the problem was - was why we have all
this ice because that water valve was on for so long.

QUERY

Of course, at that time I think most people thought it
was from the RCS.

CARR

Well, we did not make it clear on the air-to-ground that
the sparklies started by before we activated ring 2.

Now

the folks on the ground just didn't realize that, but we
knew that what we were seeing going by was very likely
the - Hi

�GIBSON

We made that statement once hut I think it was not under­
stood and we should have made it again when we realized
that people were misinterpreting fireflies and their
source.

QUERY

You have any more questions?

QUERY

There was one question I had, Ed.

It wasn't clear in

the debriefing here as to whether you actually activated
the postlanding of the ventilation system.
didn't deploy the ducts or anything.
CARR

No, it was not.
not to do so.

You say you

Was that activated?

As I understand it, we were instructed

It was mainly because people were concerned

about the propellents in the area.
QUERY

You got that part of the instructions, but the part of the
instruction about the oxygen masks and that sort of thing?

GIBSON

All we heard was something about oxygen, and it was only
when we were listening to the TV station in San Diego
that we realized we had decided not to use it.
(Laughter)

QUERY

That's all the questions we have.

GIBSON

I'm wondering a little bit about the amount of water

Do you all have any?

which we finally found down there in the LEB of the CSM.
U2

�GIBSON
(CONT'D)

Jerry, as you know, used to take towels and towels full
of water out of there and during the on-orbits day and
before we came back, we tried to get as much water out
as possible.

I was Just wondering how much can be accu­

mulated up behind the panel that you Just can't get to.
Because after the first burn, I was moving around down
there in the LEB and put my foot in a big puddle of
water.

That's when I realized we might have a fair amount

down there, and apparently they found some in the equip­
ment .

I guess S201 was concerned about getting water on

their film.
QUERY

They said it was a possibility.

Well, I guess this was - this suspicion; it wasn't any
colder than previous Skylab missions.

The lines are

insulated, but like the valves are not.

So you are going

to get condensation back there, and previous crews have
experienced the ice become condensation.

And when you

do a burn from Apollo coming back from the Moon, whenever
they do a burn, they have to get down and mop it up.
all congregates down there on the floor.
CARR

Yes.

QUERY

I can't really answer your question, assess how much.
We tried to do that and we really failed.
U3

It

�GIBSON

There was no way for us to get down there and mop it up
because there's so much equipment stowed down there that
Jerry couldn't get to the surface where it was all
congregated.

CARR

But every day I did - Everytime I did the housekeeping,
HK7, in the command module, every 7 days, we'd fire up
the secondary loop; and that would melt the ice down
there next to panel 377, I think it was, the BYPASS valves
down there.

It would melt all that ice, and then I had

about four towels full of water that I could get up out
of it.

And so I really conducted a neat wieking experi­

ment for the student who lost his other working experi­
ment down in the workshop.

But you could just take that

towel and lean it up against those lightning holes that
are over to the left of that panel.

There's little -

about 3/l6-to lA-inch holes back there.

You could just

push a towel up against that and hold it.

And you could

almost hear the water slurping out of there and into the
the towels.

And it worked pretty well.

Prior to - Well,

during the deactivation phase, I tried to get as much of
that water out of there as I could.
all out through wieking action.

I tried to get it

But you - obviously I

didn't get it all because Ed discovered it aovn in the
aft bulkhead after the first burn.
lots of ice.

But it was there and

There was a patch of ice about that wide
UU

�CARR

(CONT'D)

and about that long right down that vertical bulkhead,
and I think if you look at the - look at the spacecraft,
you can see where I did some battering on it to - to
break some of the ice off.

And then I got smart later

and found out that if I did my water sopping right after
the 7-day housekeeping exercise, I didn't have to chip
ice; it would all melt and go into the towel.
I started doing it that way.

And - so

But there's a lot of paint

chipped off the command module right there.

I might also

add for, I guess, the structures people or somebody that
we had corrosion.

You might take - Walt you might tell

your people to look at the left girth shelf, right by the
A

the water glycol panel, 326 I believe it is, and at the
inside edge of the cabin relief valve handles.

There

was considerable metal corrosion underneath the paint,
and the paint was lifting.

And it was white, powdery

aluminum oxide underneath.

And this was the only area

that I saw this, but it was right - right around that
area.

It looked like it probably hadn't been properly

treated before they painted it.

And there was a good

amount of corrosion under that.

But down ax the area

where I was chipping ice, that was - it looked like it
was well Ilodyned [?] and the paint would come off
when I'd bang it, but the metal underneath looked pretty
good.

�QUERY

Okay.

Are there any more ECS questions?

QUERY

No.

QUERY

Okay.

QUERY

This next area will be comm.
questions so you ... CSM comm?

U6

We don't have any specific

�CARR

On the CSM coram?

I guess the only comment we have on

coram was that I hope that next time we build a - a
spacecraft or any sort of a space station, that we should
think simplicity in comm.

The command module comm system

is a complicated system full of traps that - that put
you in a position where things come down on the air-toground that you didn't want to come down, and on the
others - the other side of the house, you try to talk
down air-to-ground and it doesn't get down.

Or things

get recorded when you don't want them recorded and vice
versa.

And then you take a complicated system like that

and plug it into another system that grew like Topsy in
the -

in the SWS.

The whole system was just a great

big bag of snakes and you could see the first few weeks
of all three missions, we were all screwed up on comm
until we finally

got it settled down.

And then all the

comm problems would settle down, and then only occasional­
ly would you embarrass yourself, with some dumb thing
happening.

But it's Just that you had so many different

ways to configure the system and it - it Just bit you;
every time you turned about you got bit by the comm
system.
QUERY

And -

Can you attribute that, Jerry, to - to - to design
rather than to procedure?
1+7

�CARR

Simplicity of design is what you've got to go for, and and a lot of people will come hack and say, well, if you
want flexibility, you're not going to get the simplicity
that you want.

And to that I say hogwash.

You can design

a system that's flexible and - but you've got to design
your - the - your panels - the - your man-machine or your
man-panel interface so that you know what you're doing
when you're throwing a switch.
GIBSON

The largest problem I saw in trying to understand the
comm system from the operator's standpoint, is you can
never follow the flow of information - -

POGUE
GIBSON

Six, 9, and 10.
never sit there and say-here's - here's where it comes
in the antenna, here's the power amplifier that goes
through here, and follow the flow and - and see the
controls and displays that go with that flow.

It was

just a hodgepodge of switches sitting in front of you
with no way of reb - or groping at it.

It was kind of

like grabbing an elephant; you Just didn't quite know
where to start.
CARR

But another good thing about comm systems, too, is - is
some indication of your modulation, whether or not you're 1+8

�T&gt;
CARR
(CONT'D)

you're modulating, getting down and getting up - little
gain meters or lightB or anything, I think are good.

And

they ought to be designed in coram systems of the future.
If you're going to tie your tape recorders into your coram
system, you ought to have a little - little idiot lights
that tell you either you are or are not recording.

And

of course, we only had a little bit of that, and that is
the green light in the service - in the SWS that said,
yea, verily, you're recording.
POGUE

We had talkback, of course, but it was only visible from
one panel.

CARR

Yes.

GIBSON

But that really goes back to our own inputs many years
ago.

I mean we - we asked for it so -

CARR

We got it.

GIBSON

Yes, we got it.

CARR

But, we're convinced not that your recording capability
ought to be completely divorced from your comm.

Our -

our idea is that you - in a - in a space station sort of
thing of in Shuttle, that each guy ought to have his own
recorder - tape recorder with him.

b9

And when he fills up

�CARR
(CONT'D)

a - a tape, then he can put the tape in a dump mechanism
and throw a switch that tells the ground that there's a
full cassette sitting on the dump.

And the ground can

dump it and clean it, and then they'd turn on another light
that tells the guys up there that this tape has now been
dumped and cleaned and ready for use.

And you just need

a few extra cassettes, and you'd have a very, very simple
communication system where you could get your voice data
up and down without getting messed up in the comm.

And,

of course, this would be separate from your data - your
data recorders, which are ship systems.
QUERY

I got a question.

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

I'm really with the workshop ... but ...

I guess I don't

understand what you mean by completely separate.

You

mean have separate mikes for the recorders?
CARR

Sure; carry around your recorder on your hip with a mike,
And if you need time-tagging on your - your thing, you
could - you could probably have a jack or something that
you could plug into whatever workstation you're working
at, so that you could - you could time-tag your data.
But -

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�QUERY

You mean the - the SIAs in the workshop?

CARR

Yes, they're confining.

We're going to talk about that

some more in just a minute.
QUERY

But - but you're saying that it would have been much better
if we had had tape recorders that - individual tape
recorders, some way or another we'd dump those

CARR

Right.

QUERY

- - and they have their own microphone and that sort of
thing?

CARR

Right.

POGUE

We certainly did not have enough flexibility in the
workshop comm - recording.

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1

QUERY

Yes, I realize.

CARR

Well, I'll tell you I was never confident Just exactly

Okay.

where any signal was going when you - when you talked.
You got channel A and channel B in the workshop and three
audio panels in the command module and capability to
inter - interconnect and change over and all those different
antennas.
POGUE

Indian-wrestling with the ground when you came up on AOS.

QUERY

Any more comments?

CARR

No, that's it.

QUERY

Okay, the operational cameras and photography.

GIBSON

Hello.

QUERY

Okay, we have a few questions to ask you about cameras.
Realizing that we had a number of problems, we'd like to
try to - to get a few answers to help us solve problems
for the - for the future.

Okay, first of all, were you

ever required to reindex on 11+0-foot film magazines,
16 millimeter - to reindex the film in the aperture to the
little orange lens?
POGUE

It was always right on.
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�QUERY

It was always right on?

That sounds good.

Okay, early in

January, we sent up a couple of procedure changes on
l*00-foot magazine operations, you know, delete putting
it into thread mode when you remove it frcm the camera.
So that we got the impression from the ground that after
we deleted these procedures, that some of your problems
cleared up?

Is this true.

POGUE

That's corre ct.

CARR

Yes.

When we quit messing around with these cameras and

running them at 2b frames per second and thread and then
go on to operate and all that stuff, we immediately
reduced the number of failures that occurred.
POGUE

I think that the failures that occurred after that were
random and, occasionally, maybe one or two problems due
to the fact that the selection was inadvertently to Was it single frame - time - whatever it was?

QUERY

And exposure, yes.

POGUE

Due to that.

The - You're aware that - I know that we're

all supposed to know, when you move that lever around,
where it's supposed to be pointing, but you are aware of
the - -

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�QUERY

Right.

POGUE

- - optical distortion that exists there.

QUERY

Okay, when DAC 06 blew the fuse early in the mission, was
that the first time you had attemped to use that camera?

CARR

Golly, I can't remember.

I don't know.

QUERY

Okay.

CARR

That's just too long ago and -

QUERY

Okay, you were - it was a procedure that was instituted
to remove 6 feet of film from each canister before you
tried to thread it.

Okay, we gather that you did that.

Do you recall if any of the film that you removed looked
curled or disordered?

POGUE

Discolored is the best word on -

QUERY

Was discolored?

POGUE

Yes.

QUERY

Okay, what about - -

POGUE

But only about the first 3 or It inches.

QUERY

Yes, okay.

Did it feel sticky?
51*

�POGUE

No, never sticky, always hard, "brittle maybe, but the only I would say that any character change was restricted to
the first few inches.

QUERY

Yes.

Okay, pertaining to the DAC 08 failure, do you recall

having any kind of difficulty interfacing the magazine
to that camera at any time?

POGUE

No.

CARR

Can you review what our DAC 08 failure was?

QUERY

That was the one that you suspected had a claw problem;
that it wasn't pulling film, it -

POGUE

I think that was you again, Jer.

CARR

Oh, that's right.

No, it seemed to be perfectly normal

as far as the interface between the - the - the transporter

and the - and the camera itself.

But it just seemed that

no matter what magazine you used, the claw would just
rip holes in the - in the perforations.
QUERY

Yes, well we found the - the problem was not with the
claw but rather with the little drive coupling.

The foot

had been bent over on that little coupling, and we were
trying to determine, you know, how that might have, you
know, some difficulty with making a magazine or ...
the reason for the question.
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That's

�CARR

I don't remember any problems with mating any of the
magazines.

You - you - There was always the possibility

that you'd put a magazine on, and if you didn't get it
locked in Just perfectly, it wouldn't - it wouldn't mate
in.

But the thing is, you wouldn't get bhe green light

then.
QUERY

Normally that - that should - that should occur.

You

shouldn't be able to operate the cameras if the thing isn't

CARR

That's right, and we found that interlock system to be
pretty doggone reliable.

QUERY

Okay.

POGUE

The only trouble we had on that was that one transporter
did not have an end-of-film light that was operating,
and we reported that a couple of times.

We went ahead

and used it.
QUERY

Yes, that was - that was one of the other cameras.

I don't

recall which one, but we - we found a problem that was
happening to it.

It was - Okay, during the last EVA,

in the flyaround and reentry using DAC 02, when did you
notice the failure?

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�POGUE

You mean that stuck in the 2 k frames a second?

QUERY

Right.

POGUE

Jer

CARR

Oh, let's see.

I'm not sure, but it seems to me it was

one of those nervous times when I decided, well, I'm going
to check this camera one more time and see how it's
running, and then - then's when I realized that it was
running at 2b instead of 12.

It was one of the pin

firings that I had done.
QUERY

You don't recall - -

CARR

It seems to me that prior to undocking, isn't there a
place in the checklist prior to undocking where you you recheck or where you make sure the camera is set up
properly with all the - the right settings?

QUERY

I believe that's true.

CARR

That's - I'm pretty sure that's the time when I realized
that that son of a gun was running much too fast.

QUERY

Yes.

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�QUERY

Okay, it - it appeared from looking at the film that that the EVA turned out okay.

But your flyaround and

reentry was the one that looked like ...
CARR

Yes.

QUERY

That problem could have occurred - We were trying to,
you know, pinpoint whether we had a - maybe a terminal
problem during a EVA or - or what it was that might have
caused this failure.

CARR

Quite frankly, I don't remember noting any problem.

I

took that - that DAC down, and, let's see, I stowed
1^0—foot magazine in Bravo 3 or one of those lockers
down there
it.

where the transfer checklist told me to put

And then, after a while, I got to thinking.

that's ridiculous.

I said,

I'll put the DAC in the window, and

the film will be down there, and Bill will be suited, and
we're going to need the film, and it's in the wrong place.
So on entry day, when I was just closing out - doing the
final closeout on the command module stowage, I decided,
well, I'm going to get that film out and put it on the
camera.

And I did that and tested it.

And I honestly

can't remember noting at that time - apparently I didn't
notice, if it was running at 2h, that it was.

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But I

�CARR
(CONT'D)

did make a test firing then.

And then - then the next

time I test-fired it was just prior to undocking when
the - where you come to the place in the checklist where
you check the - the shutter speed and the - and the
exposure and all that.

That's when I believe I said,

oh, for crying out loud, this son of a gun is running at

2h.

And we're probably going to shoot our whole wad before

we ever get to the flyaround.
QUERY

Well, it looked like you got - got the flyaround pretty
good but not much of the reentry.

CARR

Yes.

By the way, Bill got one good Hasselblad shot of

the - of the chutes.
QUERY

Yes, good.

QUERY

And one of the helicopter.

CARR

Yes.

POGUE

Not so good.

QUERY

(Laughter)

GIBSON

What was wrong with the camera?

QUERY

(Laughter)

We'll Just say from - from our point of view, but -

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�CARR

What did you find with the camera?

QUERY

That camera we found a blown transistor in the electronics,

CARR

A blown transistor.

QUERY

That's why we think possibly a thermal problem, but we're
not sure.

CARR

Yes.

Son of a gun, we were down to 3 DACs and - and

then we had to pick the one that was bad.
QUERY

(Laughter)

QUERY
QUERY

Okay, I have a curiosity question, Bill.

You reported

sometime fairly early in the mission that - was one of
the UOO-foot cassettes, that the tab had pulled back in,
that you went into your sleep quarters and tried to Did you have any success?
POGUE

The reason was - you know I - I fully intended to go back
and try it again later but never did have time.

There's

not enough room to get your finger in there or anything,
to push that - QUERY

Yes, that's true.

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�POGUE

- - Lead that film back in.

You know that this happened -

The problem occurred twice, once with me and once with
Ed.

And - no, excuse me, the tab three times.

That time

I lost the - the leader completely, and I reported that
I must have put it on the wrong side.
see how I had done it.
hadn't.

But I couldn't

Then later, I became convinced I

I had the thing on right ... shoved it back in

twice more.

And I know that I had it on the right side

because that - you know that it has the little orange
marks only on one - on one side for lining it up, and
if you could see the orange marks after you put the
supply in, you've got it loaded right.
QUERY

Right.

POGUE

SO

I had it loaded right, and that thing was - and I - I

think it was a different - QUERY

Transporter?

POGUE

- - A transporter each time.
tab back in there.

But that thing was shoving that

The other two times, fortunately, I

was able - it had enough left - I'd get the Swiss army
knife or something and pull it back out.
QUERY

Yes.

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�POGUE

Really weird.

Now I'll tell you this - it - I'd never

seen that happen before, and I was convinced I had made
some kind of goof-up the first time.

QUERY

That is odd.

Okay, I - I have no other questions.

Jim

has some on the 35 millimeter.

QUERY

Okay, just about all my questions relate to NK 02, being
as we had a problem with the - with the film.

And

I'd like for you to just discuss with me the - the
problems you had loading the camera, getting the back
closed.

Was it an every-time affair, or was it just the

certain cassettes?

POGUE

Every time.

QUERY

Every time?

POGUE

That's right.

CARR

We never had that nice tight line.

It just wouldn't close?

There is a picture

right up there; we're showing somebody else what was that line on the - the end of the door wss - never
looked to us like it was completely closed.

It looks

like the little cam locks, or whatever H is that pulls
it in, just really hadn't quite pulled it all the way.

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�POGUE

But it did look like the - the back was closed far enough
that it - We had a good light seal and everything, and I
had no reason to suspect that there was any sort of
geometry problem.

QUERY'
CARR

The film ... seen here looked flush to us.

QUERY

The film was not fogged, so you didn't have a light
problem.

The light wasn't getting in.

Didn't - did it

did the back at all appear to be bent in any way?
POGUE

Not to me.

CARR

Like I was saying, it appeared to be flush, it's just
at the end - -

POGUE

The little - there were two little lugs down there.

CARR

Yes.

POGUE

They weren't working right.

GIBSON

always engaged, except ... - -

POGUE

The geometry in the back looked completely intact.

QUERY

But you had no problem with NK 01?
camera.

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That was the other

�CARR

No.

POGUE

No, sir, just the NK 02.

QUERY

Do you remember whether that happened on the first - The
first film you shot in there was an IR roll, your body
pictures for the medical people.

And you even had it

then?
POGUE

As far as I can remember, I had trouble on it the first
time on.

QUERY

Something happened after - IR 01 looks good, and every
other roll after that is completely out of focus.
Do you recall - you know what the pressure plate is in the
camera?

POGUE
QUERY

Can I show you a picture?

Yes.

Okay, and the question I have - I don't knew whether you
can recall or not, but was it there?

POGUE

You know, I honestly can't remember.

QUERY

Okay.

CARR

I don't think it was, Bill.

GIBSON

Well, now wait a minute.
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I suspect it wasn't.

�POGUE

How in the world can you lose a pressure plate?

CARR

If it had gotten loose, it would have ended up on a screen.

QUERY
CARR

If we'd have found that on a screen we'd have said, Man
where did this come from?

QUERY

That's right, but I don't know how it got out of there.

POGUE

Just a second, let me look at ...

GIBSON

You really notice the difference between that and Nikon 01,
*** you notice the difference.

QUERY

Yes, yes.

I see a barreling effect of the film, which

says the pressure was not in there holding the film in.
And I see overlapping of - of - from frame to frame, either
overlapping or not properly spaced, which says the
pressure plate wasn't there.
know.

It - it - it's ... - -

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Now how it got out I don't

�GIBSON

What - what held the plates there?

QUERY

It's held by four rivet-type things.
physically pull it and get it out.

You can - you can
You got to pull it

this direction and pivot it this direction to get it out.
It - it's tough to get out, but it can - you can get it
out.
GIBSON

I don't know why the heck - how it would ever get out there.

QUERY

Now, I don't know how it got out, but every - everything
I see on the film says it wasn't there.

POGUE

I'll bet you're right, because that would explain all that
defocus and everything.

QUERY

That's right.

GIBSON

How the heck did it ever get out and where did it go?
Where did it go?

QUERY

I don't know, because we went back to the - SL-3 film
and looked at all the film that we shot in NK 02, and it
was there then, because it's all good.

QUERY

••• (laughter)

That little green Martian guy went in there

and took it out between missions; I don't know.

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�QUERY

That's what the film looked like to us, that it Just flat
wasn't there ...

CARR

. . . got t o he i n the same place as those mask weights
are for - -

POGUE

Yes , the SMMD weights.
(Laughter)

POGUE

You can lose things in the spacecraft and never recover
them.

GIBSON

How'd it even come off though, Bill?

POGUE

That's - that would require positive effort.

QUERY

You - yes, you physically got to try to get it out; it
just won't come out by itself, because it's caught this
way one direction, and this way another direction.

GIBSON

And that makes me think that, even though it sounds like
a neat idea, a nice solution, but I don't think any of us
ever worked on the cameras that - -

QUERY

Yes.

GIBSON

- - with that much aggressiveness to try to take something
like that off.

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�QUERY

No, you would have known; you couldn't do that by
accident.

QUERY

No.

CARR

But I don't remember seeing ... - -

QUERY

The only thing I can see that would have caused it - the
only other thing - you could take the camera and just
stretch it this way and that's - (Laughter)

QUERY

Could you have pressure - pressured it in to where it was
flat against the back?

QUERY

It's strained steel and you can sit thez'e and hold it all
day long and when you let it go, it's going to spring
back out.

I even shot some film on - on one here on the

ground, pulling one side loose, and it - still there's
enough pressure to hold the film right.
CARR

Have you tried removing the plate and taking some pictures
and comparing them?

QUERY

Yes, and it's very close.

CARR

It is?

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�QUERY
QUERY

Very close.
That focus varies which also leads me to believe that the that the film was floating in there.

QUERY

Yes.

QUERY

It varies; it looks like, you know, it's 3 or U feet, or
sometimes 6 feet and it Just - -

CARR

I never felt like the back of NK 02 was loose when we were
using it.

It always felt tight, but it was Just always

disturbing to see that one seam there - that it wasn't as
snug and - and clean looking as was the NK 01.

QUERY

I even tried leaving the back completely open and
Just taping it with the gray tape like you had on board,
and the film still is in focus.

So the only answer I

came up - We tried even putting ... maybe there was a
spacer ring between the lens and the body.

But that -

that had nothing to do with it.

QUERY

No.

GIBSON

No, no we ...

QUERY

We had - We had the problem before we ever put that
K-l adapter in.

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�I

GIBSON

Yes, we used a whole host of different lenses, too.

QUERY

Yes, I think you would have found it.

You might have

shot it once that way, hut then you would have seen it.
Not r- not every roll.
POGUE

Well, that's going to be one of the unsolved nysteries - -

QUERY

That's right.

POGUE

- - of Sky lab, because I can not figure for the life of
me how a piece of - came out of there.

GIBSON

Do you recall whether the SL-3 guys had any occasion to
work with that camera?

QUERY

That - oh, yes.

We shot probably 20 rolls with that

camera on SL-3.
GIBSON

To work on the camera, I should say.

QUERY

Oh, to work on it?

CARR

...he says our first roll was in focus.

QUERY

The first roll - -

No, I don't think we ever worked on it.

MS

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�GIBSON

... whether they might have loosened it up by having to
do any work on it, and it came off very easily.

Because

I know we never did any extensive work on it.
QUERY

The thing that would really fool you, too, is that your
eye tells you by looking through it that you have good
focusing, but if the pressure plate's gone, you don't
know where the film is; it's not holding the film flat
anymore.

POGUE

That's right.

QIJERY

And that's the only answer that I can come up with, that it
somehow got out of there, and I don't know how it got out
of there either.

But that's the only thing I can see that

would do that, because you could just about bend the back
in half almost.

Well, you have - you know, you'd have

to have a space that wide before the pressure plate wouldn't
hold it in there.

And then you would be light fogged very

bad, and there was no streaking - no fogging in the film.
CARR

Wait a minute, now.

We always had to really hold that

thing down tight to get it to latch.

There was something

pushing that back open when we were trying to close it and
latch it.

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�QUERY

Which - which should be the pressure plate.

The pressure

plate should - you know, you should feel the resistance.
It also springs out as you open it - As you pull the lever
down those ...
CARR

Yes, and I remember one time when you and I loaded it
prior to an EVA.

I was holding it down, while you were

manipulating the lock knob.

And it took some force on that

knob just to hold that thing down there.
it would just come open.

If you let it go,

So that tells me there must have

been a pressure plate in there.

No pressure plate, it

probably would have just - QUERY

Should have plopped right in place.

CARR

Yes.

No, we never had that.

We always had to push that

thing against some sort of - GIBSON

Also holding a Swiss army knife also helped in order to
get the - the back plate to hold down, which hit against
the edge, and you had to put the knife in there and pry it
back a little bit.

QUERY

Pry it back so it'd go down.

It sounds like it must have

got bent a little bit, but that - even if it was bent a
little bit, as long as you got it closed ...
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I don't

�7)
QUERY
(CONT'D)

know, I don't have the answer for that.
one on the flash operation.

I have one other

Did you have any trouble with

chat flash at all, or - POGUE

We changed the battery about a week before the end of the
flight.

QUERY

Is that right?
flight.

You used the same battery all through the

So you had plenty of battery power.

CARR

Oh, yes.

QUERY

Okay.

CARR

The biggest single problem we had was forgetting to charge
the darn flasher.

We'd take a picture without charging

it, and then we would have to take it over again.
QUERY

Yeah.

CARR

But other than that, the flasher worked like a gem.

POGUE

This is a very good unit.

If you notice the - the

pictures we took there at the end, where we - using the the fixed settings for the strobe.
manual, or something like that.

QUERY

Yes.

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You know, it Just says

�POGUE

Every one of those shots came out great,

QUERY

Yes.

POGUE

I t ' s when you - when you s t a r t e d - w e l l , I ' d say - Some
of the fixed operations with the K-l adapter we had an
awful lot of trouble with.

You've seen those.

QUERY

Oh, yes, yes.

CARR

What about - what about some of those body photos that are
so grainy and fuzzy?

QUERY

Was that done with the flash?

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

I assumed it wasn't done with the flash.

It - it looked

like it would either
CARR

No, no wait; it was done without a flash.

POGUE

It was done without a flash.

CARR

This is - this is the - the photos we took when we did
an IR picture - the three views?

POGUE

Yes, one-half of the stereo.
was the three views.

7U

It was stereo, otherwise it

�POGUE

Yes.

That's right.

QUERY

And they were without the flash?

CARR

Without the flash .

POGUE

That's right.

QUERY

Yes.

CARR

They were rotten pictures.

QUERY

I also assumed they were probably early in the mission.

POGUE

No, we continued taking - taking them without the flash,
because that's what the card said.

QUERY

Yes.

CARR

Of course, the stereo - we always had trouble counting
down, and getting both cameras - or that they wanted the
flash to go off a little bit before the - -

POGUE

If they - if those worked out, it was Just a fluke.
(Laughter)

POGUE

Because that - that - that was really ridiculous ... that
strobe . ..

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QUERY

We had - we had ... something and we couldn't sell that,
so I knew it would "be a real pain for you.

I don't know,

that's the type of picture you tend to get without a
flash.

We lost more because of the radiation to the film,

whereas you didn't see it near that bad on Apollo
you had a 10, 15-day mission.

when

But as long as you were up

there, the radiation really gets to that film.
CARR

And the flash helps overcome the radiation.

QUERY

Oh, yes.

CARR

You're really supersaturated to begin with.

Okay, so that's why those no-flash pictures are so grainy
looking.

QUERY

Plus, we're pushing the film a lot more without a flash
than we are with a flash.

CARR
QUERY

Yes.

We're pushing it another stop or better, which makes it
look grainy.

CARR

Okay.

QUERY

That's basically all we had.
questions of us?

We could

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Do you have any other

�POGUE

There are two - two comments I'd like to make.

The photomic

head is a beautiful piece of equipment, but because of our
continual changing of - shifting of photomic heads and so
forth, every time I picked a camera up, the little buttom
had been pushed, and the little white ring was showing.
QUERY

Which said the battery - -

POGUE

Which said we were discharging those batteries like crazy.
So about halfway through the flight, all of them were going
out, and I didn't trust them any longer.

QUERY

Right.

POGUE

Which meant then you had to use a spotmeter.

Because of

my accommodation going down the tubes, I actually had
trouble reading that spotmeter; Jerry didn't.

I had to

put my glasses on to read it.
QUERY
POGUE

I see.

So once you take - I mean, I don't know what can be done
about that, but it's hard to read, and maybe Just keep
that in mind.

QUERY

Yes, hopefully we'll have something different from now
on.

After ASTP.

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�POGUE

The photonic head is the way to go.

You know, the batteries

are small; you just carry a handful of them up.
QUERY
POGUE
CARR

Right.

We used - I think we sent up five ...

I changed all out.

And - and I had one spare.

And I - -

He was really hoarding that spare near the end of the
mission.
(Laughter)

POGUE

We only had one, and, of course, you would like to keep
that on the color interior, because that was the thing
to use it on.

QUERY

I think if we had it to do over again, on ... - one of the
electrics we didn't fly with a photonic head, on account
of weight, but I think we would so it would save you
swapping heads.

MS

Yes.

QUERY

That was a real pain.

CARR
QUERY

And swapping the light, the flash unit, was a pain, too.
The flash ...

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�CARR

Because you had to take that lens off to remove the foot
that holds the - or you had to change the whole photomic ...

POGUE

... because there were medical photos and after postflight - for postflight medicals, one of The photographers
just put some velcro on his photomic head and was - was
using it that way.

And I thought, why didn't I think of

that?
MS

(Laughter)

POGUE

Because that's all we really needed to do.

QUERY

Right.

POGUE

We wouldn't have had to keep unscrewing that thing.

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

Well, when we started out with those cameras there was

Right.

no - ever an intention of having a flash, and then that kind
of developed so that a few did.

The next generation of

cameras will have a flash unit.
POGUE

I'll tell you, I'm really impressed with that flash unit,
because you notice, regardless of the distance, they
all came out pretty good.

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�QUERY

That's really good.

Hopefully, we'll get one - the one

problem with that one was that you only can shoot at
2 feet or farther way.

If you got much closer you could

wipe out something.
POGUE

Yeah.

QUERY

Now you could kind of get it away from the camera to do
that.

And hopefully, we'll have one in the next generation

that will be where you can get a lot closer.
POGUE

I did some where I held the flash unit over to one side.

QUERY

Yeah.

As - as I recall, those came out real good.

On

the - the - I forget the ED number, but the plant growth the rice seeds [ED61/62] - now that was done with Just a
high-intensity light hanging on the side.

And those came

out real good.

CARR

Yeah.

POGUE

In other words ... - -

GIBSON

What came out well was everything except what you wanted
to see.

MS

(Laughter)

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�GIBSON

The rice seeds themselves were so blurred because they
were emersed in that - that agar, which is translucent.

QUERY

Right.

GIBSON

So you really couldn't see the details.

But all the

numbers on the outside of that container really came out
beautiful.
CARR

Oh, yeah.

MS

(Laughter)

QUERY

Yeah.

Well, I think this was what - you know - they were

expecting to see, but at least they give you some idea
what - how the other roots - I don't know.
QUERY

I guess that's all we have.

GIBSON

Are you going to, even on ASTP, have a reflex finder for
the Hasselblad?

QUERY

Not on ASTP.

GIBSON

Because, boy, we look at the - -

CARR

Why don't you get rid of that Reseau plate and put that
reflex back in it?

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GIBSON

Boy, I'll tell you, we look at the pictures, and you can for example, you're looking at a smoke plune, and you say
why didn't I include the whole smoke plume in the
photograph.

QUERY

Yeah ... - -

GIBSON

You just couldn't line it up; you don't know what you are
looking at.

QUERY

Right, that's - -

GIBSON

That reflex finder is so beautiful.

CARR

I'm sure you noticed in a lot of the pictures that the
item of interest was in the - you know - not in the center
of the picture.

It was offcenter somewhat.

QUERY

Right.

CAER

And that was strictly because we were using - looking down
the side of the camera.

And we even tried the ring sight

a little bit, but I'm not so sure that did a lot of good.
POGUE

Really the ring sight still doesn't - it helps, but it still
doesn't give you the - the full field of view you're
getting.

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�GIBSON

Yeah, when I used the ring sight - I remember the few
times that we actually had it on the camera and used it,
and it did help.

But it still didn't show the full field

of view, which lets you know what you're getting in the
picture and whether you want overlapping pictures.
QUERY

Right.

POGUE

Well, also, for stereopairs it's awful nice.

CARR

Yeah.

QUERY

The - the one problem with that is, early when we first
started flying Hasselblad we couldn't ever get the
mirror to not break in vibrations.

It sits there and flaps,

whereas the Nikon camera - it locks down, has a positive
lock that holds it in place.

Maybe we can overccme that

with the newer technology we have today, but POGUE

Well, what's wrong with installing it in flight?

QUERY

That's difficult to do.

POGUE

It is?

QUERY

You would never get it - you would never get it to line
up properly.

You'd have to keep the distance between

it and the - the screen exactly the same as the distance

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�QUERY
(CONT'D)

back to the film plane.

And it would be a real problem.

That's a real precise alignment.

You could never do it

in flight, I don't think.
POGUE

You could ... - -

GIBSON

. . . package i t so you could take that packaging out during
flight?

QUERY

Yeah.

That's possible; you'd cram it full of foam or

something so that you could yank it out and have the
mirror locked up.

That's a possibility.

POGUE

Uh-huh.

QUERY

That's a real possibility.

CARR

Well, I guess our message to the camera people is that
the cameras we had were good for their dayt but there's
better stuff on the shelf down at the camera supply right
now.

And let's don't perpetuate the stuff we got Just

because it worked neat for Gemini and Apollo.
up with the times.
we do.

Let's stay

And I know you guys feel the same as

We made the same pitch to the managers, and that

is, let's keep up with the times with our photographic
equipment.

There's no reason to saddle ourselves with

old stuff Just because it was reliable and worked well in
its day.
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Right.

POGUE

There's a couple of human factors and things, too, when
you're going to select these new cameras, and that is cables, for instance, have nothing to do wiuh cameras as
such, but they ought to all be coated.

I think we

mentioned that at tech debriefing.
QUERY

Right.

POGUE

And we ought to have cable caddies.

You ought to be able

to easily attach and remove cables with the magazine
and transporter installed.

And you can't do that.

You

just tear your fingers up trying to get those on and off
because there's not room.

You know, the little things

like that that enhance the operational use of the camera.
There was a continual sort of irritation when you were
actually - had to take - the thing that was really bothering
us was that every time we took a transporter, handled a
transporter, we - we got all nervous because we had so
much trouble with them.

And so every time you touched

that transporter, took it off the mag, off the camera
itself, you figured you were flirting with disaster for
that 1*00 feet of potential film.
QUERY

Um-hum.

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�POGUE

And you - but you had to take it off to remove the remote
timer or to remove the power cable and then put it back
on and then check it again.

There for a while we were

checking it again, too.
QUERY

Um-hum.

POGUE

Little things like that can sure make that operation go
smoother.

GIBSON

We shouldn't shortchange ourselves on the amount of
equipment we take up, especially the small stuff.

The -

the manual release cable, manual timer - CARR

Yeah, that was something.

GIBSON

We had times where we had both people wanting to use it
and you'd have the whole time line constrained because
you only had one of them up there.

CARR

Yeah.

QUERY

And that thing weighed nothing, a tenth of a pound or
something.

POGUE

I always wondered - -

QUERY

In a sense you would have been better off if you could
have ...

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�POGUE

You could carry 10 of them in a suit pocket.

QUERY

Yes.

GIBSON

One thing that vould also help in the future that I think
really slowed us

Tip

of those pictures.

in taking pictures is the documentation
Writing it down and then getting it

into a voice recorder, for some reason that seemed to
take much longer than taking the picture.
QUERY

Yeah, I'm sure.

GIBSON

And maybe we could find a much more efficient way of doing
that.

QUERY

Hopefully - -

GIBSON

Especially for Earth resources, you could do a heck of a
lot better.

QUERY

Hopefully we'll have that data recording system vhich
not only records the time but also the f-stop and the
shutter speed as well.

GIBSON

So all you have to do is then give some verbal description
of what picture you took.

QUERY

That's right.

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�GIBSON

That surely would be better.

QUERY

I think that would help.

GIBSON

We were inhibited in taking an awful lot of pictures.

That's sort of ...
If

you only had 2 minutes at the window you knew you could
never take a picture and document it.
QUERY

Right.

CARR

Well, a couple of times I took my pictures during the day,
and then finally at 10 o'clock at night I would try to sit
down and document everything that I did.

And that's hard

to do.
QUERY

Well, another - -

CARR

It's better than nothing.

POGUE

- - another thing, too, when you get a golden opportunity
to take a long series of photographs, you start - first
you see something that you've been waiting 3 weeks to get,
you see, and you grab the camera.

You start taking

pictures and then all - after you've taken about 15, well,
you don't - if you take. 15 or not, you don't knov when you
started - what frame you started with, or whether the
previous guy forgot to log his.
in a mess.

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And, bqy, you're really

�CARR

Yeah, there were a lot of ... positions, where we'd sit
down and say, "All right, what frame did you finish with?"
"Well, I'm not sure; what did you finish with?"

MS

(Laughter)

CARR

"I think I took six pictures."

But one thing, you guys

really shortchanged us on the little log.

We had to make

our own logs.
QUERY

Yes, there wasn't enough on - -

CARR

Oh, golly, yeah.

You only gave us maybe 25 percent of

what we needed.
POGUE

We used 10 of those apiece.

GIBSON

The guy who was last one to write on the page was the one
who had to make out the next one.

MS

(Laughter)

CARR

Yeah.

GIBSON

So you'd find it - for half the day you'd find one line

He had the problem ... - -

at the bottom and everybody was afraid to take pictures
MS

(Laughter)

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MS

Either that or he'd draw another line between that
(Laughter)

QUERY

(Laughter)
POGUE
CARR

Squeeze in an extra one in there.
But we found it was - it was good for us, too, to try to
be meticulous about keeping track of our pictures.

QUERY
CARR

Yeah.

But of course, unfortunately we left one little book
up there stuck in the window which represents - I think
it was about 22 pages of data.

POGUE
CARR

Most of it is voice recorded.
Little bitty pages like that, but about eight frames per
page, eight pictures per page.

But it looks like we're

probably going to have to sit down and help Dick Underwooc
and those guys figure out what some of those pictures wen
Luckily, near the end of the mission where w2 knew we
had lots of film, we start taking great ... of pictures,
and all you got to do is identify one feature and you Just
identified eight or ten frames.
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Yeah.

GIBSON

Have you seen any of the Nikon out-the-window stuff yet?

QUERY

Unofficially.

GIBSON

How did some of the 300-millimeters turn out?

QUERY

They looked good.

CARR

No sir.

QUERY

You didn't?

CARR

No.

QUERY

... much better than anything we seen previously.

GIBSON

We used ... 1/1000 of a second and stepped the ... opened

Yeah, I've seen it.

it up accordingly.

I assume you used a bracket a lot on those.

And also, the bracket I didn't think

was the way to go; I used image motion compensation.

Look

through that viewfinder and track a given subject as you're
taking a picture.

That seemed to be - otherwise, you're

just sitting there watching the ground speed by and you
know you're going t o smear i t .
POGUE

Well, you sure can see it in that 300 lens.

GIBSON

Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

The "bracket was too floppy, too flexible.

It

vould've been better if we'd Just - if you're going to
have that bracket, to design it to fit into the two holes
that hold that big piece of bridge structure that goes
across for S063.
QUERY

For S063; right.

CARR

And you could have had Just sort of a lighter bridge with
a camera hanging down there with some sort of a ball
Joint so that you could move the camera.

QUERY

Uh-huh.

GIBSON

But a bracket doesn't seem to make sense in taking pictures
going over the ground.

It only makes sense If you're

taking pictures of something fixed inertially in space,
when the spacecraft is fixed and you're taking a picture
of a star or a comet.

But taking pictures of the ground,

you - you're best off following it with your eye and
getting image motion compensation.
QUERY

Well, you did a beautiful Job because they're much better.
The other pictures, the only reason they put that bracket
on originally was to - to try to help seme of this body
motion you get in the pictures as well as being able to tell
you, "Hey, at a certain position you're going to be able to
see something come up in 2 minutes."
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I thought most of the smear which they had on SL-3 was
due to the ground whistling by rather than body motion.

QUERY

I'm sure it was.

Plus, I - I'm sure they didn't shoot at

that - CARR

Well, proper body restraint helps a lot, too.

If you can

get yourself well restrained you can sure do a better Job
of taking a picture.
POGUE

Another thing - yeah, and if you'd put the lens up against
the window cover protector, a lot of times that would and then Just lever it.

GIBSON

Pivot it on there.

That's what we used to do:

hold one end up against the

edge and then Just watch it and raise yourself up as you're
going over.

CARR

Right.

QUERY

Well, they were very good; better than we've ever seen with
the 300.

And the EVA pictures are probably the best we've

ever seen on EVA, both on the 16 and the 35.
outstanding.

They were

Very good.

GIBSON

Well, I hope we finally get to see them one of these days.

QUERY

When the DOD releases them?

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Something secret in those EVA pictures?

MS

(Laughter)

QUERY

Every one of the CX films is tied up on the 35; they haven't
been released yet.

QUERY
CARR

But they do look good.

Any more questions on that?

That's about it, I think.

That's all the comments ve have.

MS

Thank you.

GIBSON

Thank you.

QUERY

Okay, George McKay [?] from Marshall's here; he'll take over.

CARR

Your locomotive has square wheels,

MS

(Laughter)

GIBSON

But don't tell the Chrysler people that.

McKAY

Now I'm going to ask you to remember in great detail the
first 10 minutes of this 3-month mission.

MS
McKAY

(Laughter)

It's going to be real exciting, I'm sure.

Now, I guess the

thing that - it's probably moat obvious to everybody at this
time that most of the excitement took place on the ground.

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(CONT'D)

And I guess the thing I would ask you was, do you recall
anything that wasn't as you expected in terms of the
sensations and sounds and what - what have you?

CARR

Well, I don't think we were prepared - you know - for
much of any of that.

Having never done anything like that

before, you never know exactly what to expect.
can tell you exactly what it feels like.
GIBSON

And nobody

There's no way.

And each guy that gives you an idea of what they thought
it was like seems to describe it in different terms, very
subjective.

I felt we were on top of a tall building

and the bottom floor exploded.

You really felt - felt a

lot of - initially I felt a lot of vibrations associated
with isolated explosions, which were different engines
lighting off and most likely to holddown clamps letting go
I thought I was going to be able to initially identify the
holddown clamps going, and think I can get the general
time frame but I don't recall that I was able to get the
specific instances of them letting loose.
CARR

Subsonic, it seemed to me we were getting a lot of the
acoustic stuff and we were getting a lot of vibration.
When you got ignition you got lots of vibration.

And to

my way of thinking there was no doubt when the holddowns
let go, because then you immediately start getting the

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acceleration along with all that acoustic and the structural
vibration.

I didn't recognize anything or know anything

that felt like any kind of pogo or anything like that.
But it was a good strong acceleration, and when we went
sonic, or through sonic, things immediately quieted down.
And then all we had left was what little structural
vibration there was and, of course, the constant increase
in g as we were pushed back into the seat.
GIBSON

That buffeting sensation as you're going through max q,
which was to me very similar to when we were ccming back
in and reentering and went through max q there.

QUERY

Was that max q or transonic?

CARR

Well, it was around the time ... - -

GIBSON

Pretty close but it was - -

CARR

- - pretty close.

GIBSON

I think it was just about - -

QUERY

Well, max q comes about 15 seconds after transonic.

GIBSON

Oh, is that right?

QUERY

Yeah, you get quite a - -

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�POGUE

I think it was probably the transonic - -

GIBSON

Maybe it was the transonic then.

CARR

Yeah, I think so.

QUERY

I think one of the things that - well, one question I
wanted to ask:

Yeah.

did you notice a decrease in the acoustic

levels, let's say 10 or 15 seconds after liftoff.

Did

you any significant decreases at that time?
QUERY

It'd be about the time of tower clearance.

CARR

Yeah.

I think during the whole period of time, from

ignition all the way up, it's - or all the way through
the sonic - the transonic area.

That is, the vibrations

and the acoustic vibrations - structural and acoustic are diminishing slightly.

But it's very marked; once you

go transonic and get supersonic and get out ahead of the
noise, there's a very marked difference.

But it's sort of

a - I felt sort of a gradual smoothing out.

The most

vibration, the most buffeting and everything, is right at
the pad.

And then as you begin to get away from the

tower and things begin to pick up speed, it's very slowly
smoothing out.

But when you go through sonic velocity

there is a rather distinct change in the vibration feelings

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CARR .
(CONT'D)

that you get and I just decided that had to be because /

the fact that we moved out ahead of the acoustic
vibrations and now we're Just feeling structural vibrations
GIBSON

But on the pad and close to it you do have a awful lot of
acoustics, maybe because you're

CARR

GIBSON

-

T

Oh, yeah.

- - you're - things are so quiet now, all of sudden when
it does cut loose it's such a marked change that you feel
that.

Maybe you get a little oblivious to it after you've

experienced it for a minute or two.
QUERY

GIBSON

CARR

I don't think there's any way that - -

T^e first 5 to 10 seconds I thought was pretty noisy.
I felt a lot of the bang-bang in the spacecraft that I
felt and heard when I observed launches, both Saturn V
and S-IB.

You know, the bang-bang, pop-pop sort of thing.

And I felt like I could feel and hear that while we were
in close to the tower, and you know that's strictly the
acoustic side of the house, but QUERY

I don't think there's any way that you can properly
describe this.

I guess the first questicr - one of the

first questions we ever got when the astronauts began to
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(CONT'D)

familiarize themselves with the Saturn equipment as
opposed to brand X, that we - the first question we got
was "What does it sound like; what does it feel like?"
And of course we didn't know, and I guess we still don't
know.

But everybody describes these things differently.

And of course the people who have ridden on the Sat V
and the I-B both say that the I-B is much quieter and it's
much smoother.

So if you're so impressed with the I-B

part of it, you know - (Laughter)
GIBSON

... satisfied ...

QUERY

Like to.

We've got some good ones left.

subjective thing.

But it's a very

And we've never been able to get a good

handle on it, and we've been asking these questions for a
long time, mostly because the people have been asking us
questions.

And the only thing that we can say is it's

normal.
(Laugher)
GIBSON

Have you got it on the onboard recorders, the way

QUERY

Yes.

GIBSON

- - ... vibrations?

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�QUERY

Yes, we've recorded many of these things and we continue
to do so.

And the results that we're getting now are

quite repeatable from flight to flight„

We've damped out

all the little closed-loop cycles that we had inside the
thing.
GIBSON

I'm wondering if you would play one of those for us whether
we could tell you whether that's representative of what
we hear?

QUERY

We don't ordinarily put them on tape.

I don't think I've

heard but one myself, and the CARR

I don't think it would do any good to play a tape, unless
you feel it while you're listening to it.

I think it's a

completely different thing.
GIBSON

Well, I don't know - -

QUERY

Yeah, a lot of it would be in the feeling region as opposed
to the audio region.

CARR

Yeah.

GIBSON

Yeah, that's part of it, but if you really wanted to get
a feedback from us as to whether you actually got anything
of worth there - -

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You know - -

QUERY

Depends on what you're actually experiencing when we - -

GIBSON

- - I think you could get something worthwhile out of it.

POGUE

When you start getting down around 3, 5 cycles per second,
or 3 to 5 hertz, you start picking up an awful lot of
physiological response, which - if you Just played a
acoustic, or just a regular cassette-type recording, you
Just wouldn't get it.

QUERY

Right.

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�QUERY

So, if you're so impressed with the IB part of it, you
know - -

CARR

Holy cowl
(Laughter)

GIBSON

Can you get us a Saturn V ride?

QUERY

Like. to.

(Laughter)

We've had some good ones left.

But it's a

very subjective thing, and we've never been able to
get a good handle on it.

And we've been asking these

questions for a long time, and mostly because the people
have been asking us questions.
can say is it's normal.
GIBSON

And the only thing that we

(Laughter)

Have you got any onboard recorders in the way of sound
vibrations?

QUERY

Yes.

Yes, we've recorded many of these - these things

and we continue to do so and the - the results that we're
getting now are quite repeatable from flight to flight.
We've damped out all of the little closed loop cycles that
we had inside the thing and - GIBSON

I'm wondering i f you would play one of those for us
whether we could tell you whether that's representative
of what we hear.
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QIJERY

We don't ordinarily put them on tape.

I don't think I've

heard but one myself and - GIBSON

Okay.

CARR

I don't think it would do any good to play a tape unless
you - unless you feel it while you are listening to it.
I think it's a completely different thing.

GIBSON

Well, yes.

QUERY

A lot of it would be in the feeling region e.s opposed
to the audio region - -

POGUE

Yes.

GIBSON

Yes, that's part of it, but if you really wanted to get
a feedback from us as to whether you've actually got
anything at work there - -

POGUE

GIBSON

You know, Ed

in terms of what you actually experienced, at least,
I think you could get something worthwhile out of it.

POGUE

When you start getting down around 3 to 5 cycles per second
or 3 to 5 hertz, you start picking up an awful lot of
physiological response which, if you Just played an
acoustic, or Just a regular cassette-type recording, you
Just wouldn't get i t .

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�QUERY

Right, and personally I have always felt that there was
more of this pop, pop on the IB than there was on the on the Sat V and the instruments don't show that.

POGUE

GIBSON

Well, from ray observations I would have said the opposite.

I thought the first stage was relatively smooth and I
thought I could feel a little chugging on S-IVB.

QUERY

GIBSON

Well, it's sort of a softer thing.

It's ~ -

It's softer, but I thought that the thrust was more
intermittent, at least it felt

9

CARR

Yes, these guys both said they felt like we were kind of
going like this on the S-IVB, and I didn't have that
feeling.

QUERY

I don'-t remember feeling that at all.

The - the - the words that we have heard all along that
the SII when that thing was involved was even more of
that and it's Just a seemingly softer thing.

It's not

really a pogo or closed-loop thing; it's Just a sort
of a - the Atlas, I think, had much the same kind of a
feeling to it and perhaps even more so than.either one of
these two and - but that softness tends to - to damp out
the - the higher frequencies and it is very quiet for the
most part.

And the SII being the softer is the quietest

one of the group.
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�QUERY

On the J57 engine with the afterburner on some of the
early models of it had the - the characteristic of what
we used to call a hard light with a burner.

A normal J57

afterburner light was Just baroomph, and it went, but if
you didn't get things tuned Just right and your eyelids
weren't opening just right, you'd get a - a bam, a sharp
bam.
POGUE

A choked flow temporarily.

CARR

And - and I felt a lot of that on the booster, on the S-IB.
Bam, bam, bam, and you could feel it going on.

And, of

course, I would characterize the S-IVB ignition as being
more like the properly tuned afterburner on the J57.

It

lit in smooth; it ramped up and then Just moved right on
and I - like I said, I didn't feel this gentle sort of
a pulsation that Bill and Ed felt.

Well, the H-l is of a different generation than the J-2
and the plan was, back in the design days, was to ram the
thing right on through start as rapidly as possible,
because the period in between is relatively unstable,
you don't have the pressure drops and the damping and
so forth.

And so it starts very hard in comparison to

either the F-l or the J-2, and it starts very easily
too, as a matter of fact.

And so as a result, you'll

get the these shocks on start.

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�POGUE

You couldn't feel all eight of them, but there was defi­
nitely a ripple effect.there.

GIBSON

Was there abnormalities from your standpoint?

QUERY

We only had two that I consider to be significant.

We

had a little control helium leak in the engine, the
J-2 engine which caused us to use a bit more helium than
usual.

The part of the engine cycle that was involved

in this leak was terminated at the main engine cutoff,
so it did not leak any more after that time and it was it's interlocked with or interconnected with the stage
helium supplies, so the stage helium made up a large
portion of what was lost.

And except for the fact that

we really don't know where the leak was, we got it down
to three - three possibilities, one of which I consider
to be impossible and one has never happened before and
the third was never supposed to happen again.

And so

we - we haven't accomplished very much on that thing
except to go back into the 210 and make sure that none
of those possibilities exist for that - for that engine.
And then the other one we had which I consider to be
significant was in the APS, one of the thrusters.

The

oxidizer side was partially blocked, apparently due to
corrosion.

If the valve has a little seepage through
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there, with the humidity and things that you have down
at the Cape, by the time the propellent's been on there
a couple or three days, you can get some corrosion which
will block the system.

This is the first time that we

have seen that at all on flight hardware.

We've sort of

deliberately introduced that in times past, but none of
these things were significant and without the data, I
guess we never would have really noticed it.
CARR

I don't know if you folks got in on the data that we saw
it when you were blowing down the APS, I gue3s it was.
But we could see the - the mustache on the S-IVB.

When

we - right after we'd done the separation from it and we
were moving away, we saw the - the poof.

It looked like

it had a - had a handlebar mustache.
QUERY

I don't think anybody mentioned that to us, but really the the stage was quite controllable insofar as that 30 percent
is concerned.

I guess we could get by with - in most

cases there, with at least two thrusters out and a part
of another one in most of the combinations that you could
get.

So we had control all the way through, but we were

well satisfied with mission.
launch vehicle as we've had.

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That was about as good a

�GIBSON

Yes, it went right down tfre pike.

I was watching on the

DSKY and the predicted and the actual were right together
all the way. I wish we could have done that well in
simulations. (Laughter)
QUERY

Yes.

GIBSON

We never seemed to have a trajectory which matched the
one we were flying on the simulator.

So we never got used

to seeing one that matched.
QUERY

We - we've been well pleased in the more recent flights
because Just one right after another have all been like
that, right down the center and the amount of propellent
left at the end of the burn and everything was within Just
a very few 100 pounds of what would be predicted.

And

so I really think that you couldn't get a more reliable
setup than what we have now.
GIBSON

I got a - Just a gee-whiz question and that's, when we
are going through the region which gives us the contrail,
what exactly determines the cutoff of that contrail at a
high altitude?

Is it a decrease in density?

I guess,

initially, it's a temperature effect that causes the
condensation to finally come out in water vapor.

What

happens as you get up to a higher altitude and it cuts
off sharply?
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I wouldn't have an answer to that question.

The thing

that is involved there is there's all kinds of different
flow regimes going on back in the back changing as you go.
And- it seems to me that you ought to be able to produce
a contrail almost any time with all the hugs amount of water
vapor that's being generated there, but it would appear
that as you begin to get the plume interference is when when the thing dies out.

As a the plumes begin to spread

and eventually get to the point where you get flashback up
into the boat tail-as the plume impinges, some of it
goes back into the boat tail - and along about that time
is when it appears that the contrail dies, when the con­
ditions are appropriate to get one.

That is one of the

heating regimes, I guess, that we've watched the most
closely.

But we've never - I don't think we ever spent

near as much time and effort in describing what goes on
in the base region through the different flow regimes
that you get during assent.

I don't think we ever would

have had enough time in the whole program to do that,
l
because there's so many different combinations with all
those engines back there.
QUERY

Yes, I - that's very true because - in aerodynamics - I
listened one time to some 15 different - -

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QUERY

Would you use your mike, please?

Turn it on.

Yes, I think, from an aerodynamicists' point of view type
of thing, that the description of a contrail is part of
the base pressure, base heating regime where there are a
great number of variables, both geometric and atmospheric
o

in thermodynamics, that influence the plume and the
base heating and the base pressures and that type of
thing.

And it wouldn't surprise me at all if you're

never going to find out exactly when to predict something
like that.
GIBSON

It was essentially a temperature effect though, in other
words these combinations of - of the geometry of the
plumes and the thermodynamics involved would change the
temperature to the point

QUERY

It's a function of about lU or 15 different things, of
which temperature is one.

GIBSON

Okay, I was just thinking condensation would end up being
a function of temperature primarily and all those other
things affect temperature, but I don't know.

QUERY

You - we get several different pressure to pressure to
pressure temperature relationships, one through - first
one regime and then to another and to another all within

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the same operating period, you see, and our people have not
really reached a good, firm agreement about how combustible
are the products that are coming out of the engine after
it's - after it's finished, you know, there's much less
that type of thing.

We had quite some arguments seme

years ago when we decided to put the bG exhaust products
into the star area between the four inboard engines
whether it would be warmer or cooler to do that particu­
lar job.

And so it finally turned out it was cooler,

but there are some people who still don't believe that.
And then recently when we started flying the later versions
where the thrust was up about 5 K per engine, which is
really very small in terms of the total thrust there, we
picked up some increase in radiant heat but no increase
in total heat, and the increase in radiant heat was quite
o

significant and we still don't have a real good explanation
of why.

We can correlate the thrust level, but that's

all we can do and the environment is so complex and the there is just no way that you can get enough instrumentation
to say what is going on here is different from what is
going on there.

GIBSON

And I think it's - -

Of course, we could see the contrail, but apparently it
was a pretty clear day and most of the people who did see
it always end up asking me that simple question and I
can't give them a simple answer.
Ill

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QUERY

I think you can tell them very honestly that we don't
think anybody knows. (Laughter)

GIBSON

Nobody knows.

That's a simple enough answer that people

will understand it.
QUERY
QUERY

And we're not even interested in finding out.
I wouldn't say that now, I - I - but we'd certainly
be interested in finding out and it would be a lifetime
study for a large group of people.

GIBSON

Sounds like a good graduate student project.

QUERY

Yes, an excellent type thing for that.

GIBSON

Good riding.

CARR

Yes, indeed.

QUERY

That's it.

QUERY

We did enjoy it.

Okay, I guess we're ready to go to the SWS systems then.
Jerry, do you guys want to take a little break before
we start?

CARR

Well, we're kind of in the process of doing it now.
(Laughter)

QUERY

Okay.

CARR

I Just had mine.

So we'll Just start now.

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What are we going to do, the I&amp;C -

CARR

Okay.

QUERY

- - structures and mechanics and contamination today and
we can start those now and go down through them.

CARR

Very good.

QUERY

We can ... after lunch or we can do that.

CARR

Well we're - we're willing to - to give in on seme of the
lunch time today; we'd like to be able to walk out of here
by about quarter of 3, if we could, in order to - to go
take the first look at the movies that have been made now.

QUERY

I'm leaving Just as soon as

QUERY

You guys did a nice job on the set of debriefing, by the
way, but we've still got quite a few questions for you.

QUERY

Oh, you sure did.

GIBSON

It was satisfying for us.

CARR

It's nice to be nice.
in May.

QUERY

Very good.

CARR

Mid-May, sometime.

We'll see you folks out there
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Around the 15th, or so. •

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... perhaps the most exciting part of it, that and the
EVA.

QUERY
CARR

It all worked real well.

It all worked real -well.

... (laughter).

Well it, you know, it operated up there just exactly like
it went through test and that was kind*of nice to see.
The one - the one you got sitting at the Cape now is
probably going to be real clean if anybody ever gets to
use it.

GIBSON

What - Where's that going to end up?

Do you know

what's - CARR

ASTP ... - _

GIBSON

Our - our vehicle.

QUERY

It's backup for 3 - -

GIBSON

No, our vehicle that we came down in.

QUERY

Oh, I don't know.

GIBSON

Where are they going to - Is it going to end up in a
schoolyard somewhere or -

QUERY
GIBSON

I don't know - -

- - can we put it in our backyard or is it 111+

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- - You want it back?

GIBSON

Sure.

Over at Jerry's house.

(Laughter)

QUERY
QUERY

You ...

QUERY
QUERY

Are you ...?

Blocks won't work.
Jerry this is Billy Adair on the end from Marshall who's
responsible for the I&amp;C systems so he'll - he'll ...

QUERY

Okay.

Jack Horner, here in the blue suit, is going to

lead our discussion today and we do appreciate your
technical debriefing and you covered a lot of material
in there and eliminated a lot of our questions.

There

will be one or two questions, though, asked to clarify
some points that you said in your - in your technical
debriefing.

And with that, I'll turn you over to Jack

and the rest of the fellows.
HORNER

Okay, the first system we'd like to touch on is the
V .
TV system in flight, for Jack Dougherty, of Martin to ask
some questions on that.

DOUGHERTY

You've expressed your recommendations for remote controls
and display in the TV system and we'd like to ask - -

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QUERY

Is that mike on, Jack?

DOUGHERTY'

I think I have got it now.

You've expressed your recommen­

dations for remote controls and displays in the TV system,
I would like to ask if the controls that were on the TVIS
and the video switch were adequate within their functional
intent.

Were the switches located - -

CARR

On - On the input station?

DOUGHERTY'

Yes, sir.

Were the switches located and designed in a

manner that you found suitable?
CARR
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Yes, I think so.

It was only one switch - one switch and

a ... plug.
DOUGHERTY'

And on the video selector switch, the selector switch
itself?

CARR

Yes, the only - the only problem there was that that was
the only - the only switch and if you could access - if
you could access the video tape recorder from different
areas without all having to go through one switch, it
seems to me it would be a lot better because you lost a
lot of video tape recorder time Just translating from
having turned the switch on and turning on the recorder
to getting down to where we were.

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Yes.

I understand.

GIBSON

Yes.

Not Just the translation time - To dc video - to

work the VTR, for example, the science demo down there
in the OWS, you had to get yourself strapped into the - a
headset and you had to get everything all set up around
you so you were set to go and that might have taken a
minute - minute and a half or maybe even 2, in some
instances.

If you had a switch right down there where

you could turn the VTR on and off, you could have made
it.

Got all set up, turned it on, made the science

demo, turned it off, and then moved on to the next one.
As it was, you had to - you didn't want to waste the
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time

going back

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^rth, so you then took the time to

set up for the next demo while you were - had the VTR
running.

So there's an awful lot of inefficient use of

that VTR.

So many times we would have loved to be able

to control that from down there; and, certainly, we
would like to have seen a - a light that says -yes, it's
really getting on of VTR" or "it's going out live."
so many times.

And to be able to figure it locally too.

But - I

made

that point but, it -We could have really been much more
effecient.

We could have gotten a lot more good data
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on the VTR.

The way it was there was an awful lot of

extraneous lead-in and TV of the guy leaning over - "Hey,
Ed, would you turn off the VTR," and a bunch of this stuff
and I - I've Just seen this within the last 2 weeks.

And

it can all be eliminated by Just having the controls at
the place where you're doing the work and all the indica•

tors, too, to let you know that you have got it figured
correctly and you have - that last 1*5 minutes haven't been
shot.
QUERY

I think our next question is about the VTR and its control.
And, again, taking into account your recommendations for
the remote controls, were the switches and lights on the
VTR adequate as they were?

GIBSON

For what we had to do with them I thought they were.

QUERY

Yes.

GIBSON

Well, the ground essentially controlled that thing.

I see.
Other

than us turning it on to use it, the ground said, let us
control it completely from there on.

So we never had to

worry about rewind - completion of rewind or any of that.
POGUE

One thing' that would - I think would have been helpful
on the VTR itself, assuming we have to manage in some
fashion the way we were doing on this one, would be a - an

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indicator to tell us how much was left and how much was
taken, or something like that.

QUERY

Oh, I see - -

GIBSON

That would have been useful - -

POGUE

The ground is always telling us but - Another thing too,
a lot of times you - you screw up - you start taping
something and there was something wrong, you see, with
the setup and you - it - it would be real nice if we
had a way of indexing to start, or if nothing else, if
you had a real accurate analog meter or a digital readout
as to where you started, so that you could rewind and do
it over, putside of ground contact.

Of course, we hope

that we'll have satellite coverage the next time but it's
still - that's a good capability.
GIBSON

•

Yes, that's a real good point.

Many times we would start -

we were out of ground contact and we didn't know how much
time we had available and you knew you had 5 minutes,
whatever it is, for a demon - demonstration or something
else you wanted to do and you didn't know whether you
were going to make .it or not.

That, plus trying to fit

o

in whether you had enough time left over for the ATM which
had its own requirements.
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POGUE

And it would be another - Another nice thing to have along
with that would be a warning device that was some - that
did something to tell you when you were within 5 minutes
or 2 minutes or 1 minute to the end of the tape.

Then

you'd know you'd have - you'd - well that, at least,
would be a warning.
QUERY

Are you talking about a ... or an audio?

POGUE

Either one.

Both.

One that has both, because sometimes

the audio would get back on your mike, you could - It
would be nice to have both of them.
QUERY

The next question has to do with the TVIS locations..

And

would you have liked to have seen more TVISDS for different
rotations or were your cables adequate in length?
CARR

Well, the cables were adequate in length.

I guess the

locations were okay and the big problem with the cables
was that they Just got in the way and it would have been
a whole lot better to have had cables on - on caddies or
something like that, you know, these inertial reel things
like you get at the gas station, essentially.

You pull

.

itvout and you - then you let go of it and that goes back.
If you could have one with an inertial locking system on
it where you could pull out as much cable as you want and

I

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then lock it like the seat belts on your car and then
use the cable and when you're through with it, you'd give
it a pull and let it go back. That would have certainly
have been a lot neater organization up there. -But, of
course, I don't think that's your problem as much as
it is people that are Just designing the workstations.
But things like that would certainly have made the TV
system easier.

GIBSON

I think I would like to have had one more station in the
MDA.

There was one adjacent to the ATM and I would like

to have had one opposite - on the opposite wall, closer to
the CSM.

Because many - many times in doing TV in there

you had to rig that wire and run it all the way around the
vehicle.

180 around and then along the axis some way and

if you wanted to leave the TV set up you had to really tie
that thing down so someone - no one - someone else couldn't
snag on it coming through.
CARR

Yes, that's a good point.

You probably could have used

the one right there at the EREP area.
QUERY

Yes.

EREP activities.

CARR

Yes, so we didn't have to string the cable.

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And another thing, too, that occurs to me, first off, we
used the zoom end to focus on - oh the subject, to define
focus.

One of the things that bothered me, occasionally,

was, did - what was ay depth of field for the particular
zoom end and I was - when we were setting up science
demos it would have been nice- if we would have had some
little gizmo to - to put in - a sort of slider rule we
could have put down that would have had two bars, you
know, for resolution determination and
GIBSON

To set up the camera, huh?

POGUE

To set up your cameras.

In other words. Just a little

assist to say do I yea, verily have depth of field to
cover the objects that are going to be in this demo or
this scene or what?

Just a little crutch to use - to

know, perhaps, what - what zoom flexibility I have that
can still stay inj focus.
GIBSON

Well, there are lenses on cameras which have that built
right into them. I wonder if it would be possible to have
something like that built right into a TV, essentially
the same opticals type of device?

QUERY

Well, of course, there are^all sorts of devices that can
be used for that for closeup work to - in other words
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extremely critical.

I - The viewing that I saw, I thought

that you Just did an excellent Job on depth of field.

The

lenses are excellent, to begin with, and-it seemed like
the same content that you wanted was always in there and
adequate, depth of field.
POGUE

We spent a lot of time setting it up.

CARR

TV setups were a very costly thing for us.

It would have

been easier if we had - if our TV system would have been
designed for quicker setup.
QUERY

Would it - Well, would it have helped, at all, to have
had anything on the camera that indicated what the depth
of field was for the particular focal after selected in
the f-stop or do you feel it would have been better to have
the actual physical depth of field indicator to put in
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your scene?

POGUE

I - I was wondering how you'd have use it on - if you
had it on the camera.
by that.

I'm not quite sure what you mean

I know on the camera - -

CARR

. . . decal you're talking about on the side of the camera?

QUERY

Yes, sir.

I - I - I think you would, first of all, see

how far it was to your subject - your point of interest,
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then for the f-stop you'd selected and the zoom that you'd
selected for that activity.

You'd then look and take off

at the depth of field that you have.
o.

POGUE

That little chart?

QUERY

Yes.

CARR

That would have been good.

POGUE

I - I like that.

GIBSON

Yes.

CARR

Would have been useful to help us kind of walk out a
scene an£ how we were going to do it.

POGUE

I'll tell you another thing I want to mention now before
I forget it and that is that we need much better distinctive
fields on the zoom focus in aperture.

And also the - they

need to be more - the friction needs to be better designed
because one of them that was real loose.- CARR

Was it f-stop?

POGUE

We had to tape it down.

CABR

You could just touch it and it would - it would drift

F-stop was awful loose.

around it was so loose.

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POGUE

So you didn't - you didn't dare really manhandle the - the
camera when you were using it.

But - And another thing,

too, I was always grabbing the f-stop when I wanted zoom
and you know if you - if I'm over here looking at some­
thing and I'm trying to zoom in on it, I shouldn't have to
turn around there and look at the lens.

And those - those

do not have distinctive fields t o them at a l l .

And I ' d

like to have coarse sandpaper or something on the one
that - you know something like that.
CARR

Dimples [?]

POGUE

Yes.

on one and nubbies on the other one?

Airplane controls are done this way.

Mixed - you

know, the old'prop planes used to be this way so you didn't
cut your mixture when you were actually trying to change
the prop setting'or something like that.
CARR

Before I forget some things too, number 2, the next item
that I think is important is the monitors.

The little

monitors were good but they deteriorated with time and
got worse, and worse, and worse.

And the ones - I got

a question about the one that I said there's a little rubber
grommet floating loose in there.

I'm interested to know

if you ever found out what that was that's loose in there?
And the other thing, before I forget too, is that in
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the area of monitors, it would have been nice if we'd
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had a large - say a lU-inch screen or larger vhere we .
could have taken a look at some of the stuff we'd done
so we can get a value Judgment as to the quality of this the work we were doing and if it would be in color.

POGUE

That's right.

QUERY

On your first question, I'm afraid I can't answer it.
The - The hardware involved is not at our center so we
wouldn't - we weren't involved in that.

And I do know

about your desire - your comments on the larger monitor - CARR

If you're going to do television productions, and that's
what we were doing up there, it seems to me you ought to
have all the right kind of equipment to see how you're
doing and what you're doing and this could be part of
the VTR setup.

You should have the capability of playing

the VTR yourself and seeing how something worked and if
you don't like the way it worked, erase it and do it
again, a little bit more independent television production
capability because I think everybody now has seen the
value of television up there.
POGUE

We needed a - a better mount and steering capability. The
,
»
mount, itself, the friction varied with the three Joints
that we had.

So you - there was no sort of harmony involved
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there.

You couldn't achieve a harmony in panning or even

repointing.

And another is that we actually reached down

and grounded and used the pigtails to get the right
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mechanical advantage.

We were actually grabbing ahold

of the cable pigtails back on the back of the TV camera
to steer this thing and particularly when we were doing
these science demos when stuff was moving around slowly,
but definitely moving, we'd - Trying to pan slowly was
extremely difficult because you'd get the friction getter
and would jerk and snap and it was hard to keep the stuff
in the center of the field of view.

It needs to be more

professional, because by the - by the end there we were
getting so, you know, we thought we were - we were
cranking out some pretty good stuff.

But it surely

would have been enhanced if we'd had a little more pro­
fessional approach to the mounts and the steering capability
QUERY

This is the SUM now - This is the SUM, this universal
mount that you had to carry up?

POGUE

That's correct.

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

Yes, sure.

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�Yes, th§re was not a lot of locations to even put that
universal mount, especially, in the MDA.

For much of

that TV I ended up taping their camera to some location.
Oh, I s ee.

You ended up taping the front, the handle underneath,
and the wires in back.

And when it all steadied down -

stelled - settled out then you could go ahead with the
picture.

In order for that universal mount to have been properly
, useful ±00, it should have had a telescoping handle,
because with that closeup lens that's an extraordinary
critical setting adjustment and you either have to move
your scene around to get it in the rigit position but
all you have to - jrou have to have more flexibility in
adjusting the - the camera itself.
Yes.

Going back to that TV lens especially, for use in

the MDA, I would like to have seen a wider field of view.
When we were trying to - In one scene, in particular,
I was trying to work on the ATM panel and show the whole
panel and I Just had one heck of a time trying to get the
camera far enough away from it and-not such an oblique
angle that you couldn't see it

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That's a real good point,

QUERY

Uh-huh.

GIBSON

I just couldn't back that camera off enough to make a
reasonable coverage.

POGUE

I was taking pictures of Jerry up there and the EREP,
too, and I was in back a good 10 feet and still having
trouble getting an intelligent field of view.

QUERY

Uh-huh.

QUERY

We haven't got the cameras back yet, that why ... - -

QUERY

Oh, I see.

POGUE

Another thing that would be neat, we have the - I know
O

we have that universal camera mount that the - the blade
type thing mounted all over that camera, and still it
seems like that you always wanted to turn that monitor
in some direction that - that you couldn't achieve.

And

it would-be nice to have .some kind of swiveling capability
and a little bit more flexibility on that thing because,
a lot of the times, you - you are in the back there - you
are behind the camera holding it and you got a great field
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of view there.

Other times, you are in some sort of

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awkward position but maybe it's a maintenance thing that
you've set up and in order to get the camera in position
O
to take the field of view, you - y*ou don't have any flexi­
bility at all.

There's just one or two places to put it

and when you are in a position to try to do the work and
look back and see if it's still centered in it, the monitor's
pointed away from you and ypu can't see it; it'd be a little
bit n;Lcer if you had that- greater capability to move that
monitor and point it.
QUERY

Once you have your camera oriented and you had your scene
content developed, did it hold its orientation while you '
were tightening down the adjustments on the SUM, or did
o
you get a shift in the *actual tightening down activity?

POGUE

I don't think that was really too much of a problem.

CARR

No.

POGUE

It would be nice to be able to take TV of the exterior of

,

the spacecraft from inside.
QUERY

That was a question we were going to ask you in

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Boy, you had an IVA crewman in there with all kinds of
time and Just no capability.

Could have gotten some real

good TV of them.
QUERY

We had some good schemes people were Just beginning to
look at.

When it was way too late they were sticking the

television camera out - out the solar - or scientific
airlock and using the - essentially the lunar rover
remote control device to sort of set up where you could
sit inside and point the camera - ginbal the camera to
a good position and take pictures and . . .
QUERY

As I recall, that was in the planning.

Definitely in

T - QUERY

'

T027.

QUERY

Yes.

T027 had that capability.

I - -

QUERY

And we lost the SAL on the Sun side.

QUERY

Some of the SAL was lost, too.

QUERY

Yes.

Well, our question also was one where we were

interested in whether or not you felt a built-in capabil­
ity should have existed beyond the T027 capability where
you could have hooked the TV outside - shared the thing
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QUERY

Above a window or something.

QUERY

That's right.

CARR

Oh yes.

We could make all sorts of observations of con­

tamination and things like that out there.
POGUE

We're talking about things that are so nice to have and
now they're becoming extraordinarily defensive and by in later programs.

Because - But it's just the sort of

thing that Just gives you tremendous flexibility in seeing
what's going on outside.

And I know just frcm a "gee

whiz" there's Joe Schmo EVA type thing, but boy that's

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really good for maintenance, too.
QUERY

I don't think we'll see that on Shuttle and maybe even
spacelab, but when we finally build a good specestation - -

POGUE

I would just like to sort of stimulate your quriosity in
this area.

I think there are ways of doing this. The

people - when you mention this, you say, "a periscope
capability," they immediately, you know, think of the
U-boat commander type thing, but what we're doing is
addressing a capability.

Now I don't know how - I couldn't

care less how it's implemented or mechanized.

So I think

there - you know, there are probably many ways of doing

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this.

Now, I know fiber optics still aren't there yet.

That's the first thing that would suggest itself, but,
!

you know, try"to sort of think about this, because I think
there are ways even of getting it on Shuttle, if we are
clever enough.

Now, if you start getting a big piece of

folded optics that takes up 15 cubic yards of space and
that kind of stuff - 1500 pounds of weight, your out you know you are out of business.

I still think you can

do it; I don't know how to do it.
QUERY

The next question we had was:

Was lighting or the arrangement

of lighting a problem for you during TV?
GIBSON

It was a problem in the sense that it took a little
attention - a little care, but you could pretty much
figure out how to do it. I think especially in the - I
was taking a closeup TV using the closeup lens.

That

was a little hard to figure out just what was a lighting
optimum - what background you ought to use.

Taking pictures

of moth eggs, for example, do you put a black background or
a white one or one which is reflective or scattering?
That was just trial and error, where you put the lights.
CARR

There's the spacecraft lighting where that low level TV
would certainly zap it if you didn't pay attention to

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what you were doing.

But I thought that low light level

TV was excellent.
QUERY

Yes, I - that's kind of what I was interested to hear you
say.

I wondered if you were able to see the camera and

the settings and so forth sometimes to just operate the
system ... little by little.
CARR

We didn't have to fool with that.

We would set the camera

up first and then the only thing we changed after that hopefully, the only thing we changed was the zoom and the
focus which you could look in the monitor and see how that
was going.

I Just felt very comfortable with that low

light level TV.

I was pleased that we had it.

Now every

time we turned on the spots, the flood lights in order
to get better lighting, I think it degraded the tele­
vision, because there was so much backshadowing and every­
thing from those rather directional flood lights that we
resisted - GIBSON
CARR

That would depend on what you were doing.

- - we were able to resist using them.

Now, yes, in the

case where you are doing closeup work with a closeup lens,
and you are right in there tigfrt, then you don't worry
about shadows, because you don't have them too much, but

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you got better TV with ambient lighting than if you turned
on a bunch of floods and try to get TV because you would
have shadows all over in the background.

POGUE

The only exception to that was that one sequence we took
of the - of you and the EREP, and I deliberately did not
use spots in the high intensity lights and i z - they came
back and said i t was - they were working on i t , but that
they thought they could get some good film out of i t , but
that there wasn't enough light.

And I think the reason

there was, I was taking the picture into a lighted area
with lights in the scene, although we tried to avoid i t
as much as possible.

Other than that, there was always

a problem of probably having too much light, like leaving
the wardroom window open or something like that when you
are taking pictures in the experiment compartment.
GIBSON

Are there TV's which are designed specifically for outthe-window use, which if we had along, we could have done
a better Job on the earth photography.

Apparently, when­

ever we got a cloud in the picture, i t Just completely
saturated the - or brought the - that light level up and
dropped the remainder so that you really couldn't see
anything else except the cloud.

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Well, essentially the camera that we had this time coped
with that problem and that the ALC took over.

And I

thought that the out-of-the-windcw viewing, again, was
very fine, some of the best television was the out-thewindow - GIBSON

Well, it worked pretty well, but apparently we got lots
of feedback from the ground that whenever we came across
anything with significant cloud cover, it obscured the
remainder of the picture.

QUERY

Well, I'm - I'm sure that can be - be worked, but I think
it was the intent in this camera to have that capability
in the ALC that was in the camera.

Automatically cope

with that high light level within the brightness range of
the camera, which it certainly was.

Brightness range

with any one scene was 100 to 1.
GIBSON

Yes.

QUERY

The . . . from the camera . . .

GIBSON

We - we could not Judge that.
looking at them.

But we did get that feedback from the

ground.
QUERY

We were not on the ground

I see.
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�POGUE

There's another case where a monitor would have been
invaluable, a large color monitor.

We - we could have -

we'd have felt a lot more confident about taking those
out-the-window scenes.
QUERY

I see.

GIBSON

We'd also like to have the capability of having TV up, so
the idea of a large TV monitor is really not quite as
bad as you might think.

We would have one for onboard

use for both cassettes.

We'd have on board as well as

other information which would come up for entertainment
and training.

QUERY

On your closeup lighting, I Just - I think your lighting
for closeups was very adequate.

The only comment I guess

I would have was occasionally it seemed a little flat, and
I think the only answer to that would have been a softer
auxiliary light off to the side to give a little dimen­
sionality, which you probably - I'm sure you didn't have
to use.
GIBSON

Yes, we had some.

QUERY

Did you?

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�GIBSON

Well, we could have taken the high intensity light and
Just turned it down low and used only one.

QUERY

With all the - -

POGUE

Well, there's portable lights too.

CARR

We also had the portable lights too.

Of course ...

But see, not - you

know, not being able to see the pictures, we didn't know
how they were coming out.
QUERY

A lot of the detail was there.

All the content was there.

Just a fine point.

Could you comment on the use of the

TV system for EVA?

You did not use it on EVA.

Do you

have any thoughts about problems you might have had in
such an application, or - CARR

Well, the only problem would have been handling the cables
and all, but we were disappointed that we weren't allowed
to take TV out with us and get some shots.

GIBSON

Is there any reason that was not used or suggested?

QUERY

No, sir.

QUERY

One of the thermal ... the camera was - —

QUERY

Thermal problem.

QUERY

Thermal on the camera.

I don't know the reason.

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�GIBSON

But on that last EVA, when we still had two cameras left
over?

QUERY

Well, the camera is - is okay for EVA application.
temperature must be monitored, of course.

The

Maybe that was

part of the problem.
QUERY

The next question is one oh general system operation.
Apart from your express comments on the mini-monitor, you
you pretty much talked about your mounting and pointing
problems with the camera.
monitor:

Another question on the mini-

Were you able to discern spots or lens contamin­

ation using the mini-monitor?

I noticed a scene or two

where it looked like maybe there was a little lens con­
tamination, not enough to be a problem, just picking out
a spot on the lens, something like that.
CARR

I don't think we could have.

POGUE

The thing was too degraded.

CARR

By the end of the mission, yes, they were both getting

It had ... chunks.

pretty degraded.
QUERY

Did you notice any lens contamination at all in just look­
ing at the camera in general?

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I think I cleaned the lens twice, I believe.

QUERY

Do you know what the material was, or Just general accumu­
lation of dust?

GIBSON

Once when I was doing the fluid mechanics experiments,
one of the bubbles backfired and completely coated the
camera.

QUERY

Was that mostly through the VTS that you were seeing the
spots you're referring to?

QUERY

No, the - the spots that have been seen throughout the
entire mission, all three manned periods have been - in
the portable camera have been internal spots.

And we do

see those, and occasionally we've seen spots that felt
maybe were contaminants on the outside of the field lens.
Those spots internally have been - QUERY

I know; we've picked them up during the ERLP pass, and
that's what I was wondering.

I thought most of that was

in the VTS system.
QUERY

No, there are some in the VTS.

I can't distinguish, but

some are also in the camera as well.

We see quite a few

in the outer window viewing of the Earth because you're
at a longer zoom and a smaller f-stop and it - for some
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(CONT'D)

reason that focuses them.

The spots are contaminants on

the faceplate of the vidicon and also on the back of the
filter wheel is what I've been told.

And I don't under­

stand the mechanism whereby going to a smaller f-stop
focuses them any better, but it surely does.
QUERY

On the ATM, would you comment on the overall system per­
formance on the ATM TV:

the controls and displays and

the - the camera performance, monitors, things like that,
in general?
GIBSON

Okay.

•

Start off with the switch itself.

That was no

problem, you were always right at the ATM, and that
switch was the only thing you had to make sure you had in
the ATM position.

Apparently that - I know on a couple

of occasions you had it in the T - we had i\ in the TV
or the wrong monitor; but I don't think that was a major
problem, and not anywhere near the problem we had when we
were working with the TV in remote locations.
different story.

That was a

The monitor, two monitors we had on

board, one we took up and one which was there.
we took up was an excellent monitor.

The one

There for purposes

of solar viewing conditions we could see things which
we'd never expected to see in - in the way very faint
emissions.

We were looking at Alpha 1, for example, off

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�GIBSON
(CONT'D)

the limb and see prominences Just - with clarity which we
never expected to see.
tionally good one.
out.
tion.

I think that monitor was an excep­

Tom Barnes at Marshall picked that one

An exceptionally good - good contrast, good resolu­
It was white, which was a black on white, rather

than a black on yellow, which monitor 2 was.

Apparently,

number 2 had degraded, turned slightly yellow.

That

seemed to make quite a bit of difference in the contrast
which, you know, I could perceive as contrast.

Then the

other is we'd get into the vidicons associated with each

TV system.

And each one, as you know, had its own peculi­

arities and its own problems.
here, we can.

If you want no discuss that

Is that part of your - your area?

We can

go into it if you like.

QUERY

Well, yes, I'd be interested to hear any comments you
might have on the individual vidicons.

The white light

coronagraph, for instance, we know we got several burns
toward the end of the mission, and we were wondering
whether you'd seen any excessive light levels during the
activities that might have explained those turns.

There's

other things that could cause them, but that would be
one area ... - -

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�GIBSON

The only way those burns - that we could see, could get in
there - one is a continuous offset of the white light
coronagraph.
of the Sun.

Its ... wasn't always right at the center
That was because there were experiments ...

misalignment, and they also had the constraint that they
had to operate when their pointing error system was within
certain constraint.

So we ended up operating purposely

misaligned slightly, which put a certain amount of light
always over on that one edge of the vidicon, which in
turn, they say over a long period of time could have
caused the burned-in spot to all of the sudden appear.
That was the explanation we got for the first burned-in
spot.

It also saw short transient high light levels

whenever the door was closed with the TV still on.

And

that happened on our mission a couple of times the same
as it happened on previous missions because of the no
interlock feature there.

That was - is you do something

hundreds of times, you're - It was off and on where you're
bound to make - make that error, and we did too.

But the

burned-in spot did not appear immediately after that any
times which that happens.
QUERY

Well, that wouldn't appear to be the cause then because - -

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�GIBSON

From our standpoint it was not related, but that was a
possible contributing factor to the total amount of high
light level which I had seen.

Once we did get the second

burned-in spot, I thought the contrast of the remaining
features went down considerably, and maybe that first one
also had caused quite a bit of decreasing contrast.

It

turned out that we were not able to see transients in the
coronal which people say did exist looking at the film,
whereas they were obvious from the previous missions.
Even the pictures - Polaroid pictures which were brought
back frcm the previous missions, we could see transients
there which were just obvious to us, and the Polaroid
pictures were degraded quite a bit from what you saw on
the TV.

We went up there and looked at the TV, we did

not - did not see any at all other than one very bright
one.

The real disappointment to us was in the H-alpha 1

vidicon.

That appeared to decrease significantly in

contrast, or I should say -I'm not sure, it's seme
combination of contrast and resolution.
QUERY

Did the crosshair also decrease at that time, or did you
notice?

GIBSON

Could you tell any difference?

I don't recall that being suffi - significantly degraded.

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�QUERY

It's really hard to tell because it's - it's black and
you can't see the degradation as readily, of course.

And

we couldn't see it at all on the ground.
GIBSON

Yes.

I could not see - did not notice a - an accompanying

decrease in the resolution of that crosshair.

But that

was either a - I guess there's three things:

either the

filter drifts, the contrast goes down, or you Just lose
the resolution due to the optics changing.

And I got -

I think probably more of the latter.
QUERY

Did you notice that decrease in resolution on both moni­
tors?

GIBSON

Yes.

It did appear on both monitors, and it occurred

maybe 10 to 15 minutes after you turned the vidicon on
for the first time of the day and you'd let it sit - turn
it off and let it set for an hour.
cure the problem.

That didn't seem to

Even a couple of hours, as we'd

leave it off during the Z-LV passes.
QUERY

During the off time was the filter heater also turned
off - or on rather.

GIBSON

No.

QUERY

On.

It was much - -

The filter heater was always turned on.

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�GIBSON

There was only one occasion that was turned off, and that
was inadvertently and that was H-alpha 2.

H-alpha 2 Just

never was a - anywhere near the quality system in terms
of what we could see on it as H-alpha 1.

But I think

that was more the - the filter itself and other charac­
teristics of the telescope.

It was good for overall

pointing, but we never really tried to push that in terms
of high resolution.

The white light display - white light

slit had its problems.

Apparently that - the optics there

degraded so that we could not get the limb scan or limb
pointing functions to work, which depended on the TV
inputs, right there towards the end of the mission.

And

also we could not see the white light features anywhere
near as well at the end of the mission as we could at the
beginning.

Penumbra of sunspots for example., very good

when we first got up there; couldn't see them very well
at all at the end.
GIBSON

XUV monitor:

We would love not to have used that in

the INTEGRATE mode.

A longer persistence phosphor on

the scope would have helped.

We ended up using that

persistent image scope in conjunction with the INTEGRATE.
And that worked but it was a very awkward way to use it.
There we were Just not getting enough - apparently they're

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�GIBSON
(CONT'D)

not getting enough photons to the front of 'ohe vidicon low light level vidicon.
I'm not sure.

Now how they get around that

They had a couple of filters in there which

they could have taken out but talking with Doc Tousey, he
said that still wouldn't have done it.

So maybe just the

next generation of low light level vidicons might do it
for you.

QUERY

Thank you.

Can't think of anything else.
After having seen the ATM video downlinked,

could you compare it with what you saw on your monitors?

GIBSON

I haven't seen the downlink.

I guess before I went I saw

it and I don't think it's as good as what you can see on
the monitors up there.

Apparently there is some degrada­

tion of the signal but I don't know how to give you a
quantitative feel for that.

QUERY

It was a general question.

On the first manned period,

the comment was made that it was better on the ground than
it was on the monitor and then I think the next period it
was the reverse.

GIBSON

Maybe that's because we had that H-alpha 1 - or the
monitor 1 up there which we installed which was an excep­
tionally good monitor.

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�QUERY

Well, we would expect it to be much better on the monitor
of course because of the strain of the band width on the
downlink.

POOUE

Haven't done any reprocessing of the signal tc try to
enhance the downlink signal?

QUERY

No, not at Marshall.

GIBSON

I guess a good - a good measure of that was when we saw
the comet.

On board we could see the sunward spike when
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we were at perihelion in the S052 coronagraph TV. Took
a picture of it and we could see that - we tried to put
a TV picture of a - or the picture of the TV tried to show
that down.

By that time we had lost all the evidence of

that spike, but we could see that spike very well on
board.

In the TV which came down they could not.

QUERY

Absolutely not.

CARR

I think the next questions we have in television have to

No, there was no sign of it.

do with hardware oriented questions, on the MDA hardware
and John Vega is going to ask those.
QUERY

I just wanted to ask a little bit more about that ATM
monitor, 1 and 2.

You said that the ATM monitor 1 that

you'd installed was much better than the monitor number 2.

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�QUERY
(CONT'D)

Did you notice any degradation from the beginning to the
end of the mission between the two monitors and - you
know, did you notice any degradation in the monitor
number 1 which you installed?

GIBSON

No relative degradation.
degradation.

I could not notice any relative

Of course there's a wide range there which,

over a long period of time, you might not pick up.

But

the monitor 1, when the vidicon in H-alpha 1 was working
at the beginning of an orbit it was as good as - subjec­
tively as when we first got up there.

I should say that

monitor 1 was used - was the best only in terns of looking

D

at H-alpha 1.

When we would put the XUV monitor or one

of the other displays on it, it didn't seem to make that
much difference.

H-alpha 1 is where you try to get very

subtle feature in terms of faint features off the limb
or very fine features in the chromosphere.

You're already

pushing the resolution and that's when it would make the
difference.

In the corona, for some reason, it didn't

seem to make too much difference.
QUERY

One more question.

Regarding that, we were talking about

the sunward spike on the comm.
both monitors?

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Could you see that, on

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GIBSON

Yes, I think you could, as a matter of fact.

I think it

probably showed up a little bit.
CARR

I thought it showed up better on 1 than 2.

QUERY

That would give us a point though because on the ground
we couldn't see it at all and it would tell us how much
that one monitor had degraded.

You could still see - you

think you could see it?
GIBSON

Yes, as a matter of fact I always used monitor 1 in look­
ing for the comet, in all the JOP 18s we did.

But I also

had 2 called up at the same time, and as I recall you
V*

could see it better on 1.

They usually appeared a little

bit easier and you could CARR

Yes.

QUERY

Okay, fine.

VEGA

Basically, I have quite a few questions associated with

Let's go to John Vega then.

marking and connectors and so forth which hopefully we
can get your views on.

Basically, the first question I

have is there was an awful lot of use the TV system and
disconnections and connections of the cabling and .so forth.
First question is what was the - you feel the condition of
the alignment marks and identification markings on the
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VEGA
(CONT'D)

TV is, the VTR, and the video switch?
usable?

Were they still

Were they still in good condition?

They didn't

cause you any problems when you went to hook up your
station?
CARR

No, there were no problems.

They were still usable and

they're probably the better markings than a lot of the
other systems had.

I think you guys apparently pay a

whole lot more attention to the markings and alignment
marks.
POGUE

We had that one problem on the TVs and - -

GIBSON

I was just thinking of that one; yes.

CARR

I think we must have Just brute forced that one or
something.

GIBSON

I'm not sure what the heck happened on that one where
we had the pin which was bent, and I was the guy who tried
to put it in there and I just line it all up and put it
in and it just didn't go in.

And we finally ended up

looking in, saw we had a pin bent and tried to straighten
the pin and it broke off.

VEGA

Okay.

I'll Jump over.

I have a question on that one.

Let me just ask you one thing about - did you recall at

I

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VEGA
(CONT'D)

all on that pin, was it a solid or a twisted pin?

See

there is two different kinds of pins and there is a solidtype pin, and also the coaxial pin is a twisted - actually
a twisted wire.

And if it was solid - -

GIBSON

It was solid.

VEGA

It was a solid pin.

Okay, then I know which one it was.

It wasn't the coaxial pin.

Okay, that's good because that

identifies which, you know, identifies it to another area.
GIBSON

I had a tough time figuring how that could have gotten
bent, how one pin could get bent like that.

VEGA

Well, there is a - along with - let me jump over the pin
items since we're talking about that right now and that
is that early in the program, in fact prior to the launch
of the Skylab, there was a lot of problems associated with
the connectors - the back shells, the identification mark­
ings and this.

We worked the hell out of it to put it

bluntly, and we got to the point where we tried to elimin­
ate as many problems as we could with the alignments as
far as getting the pins lined up so that they would go in
properly.

But there is a situation where due to the way

the connectors are actually built that you can go in
slightly cocked and you can get pressure on the pin.

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�VEGA
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actually if you push hard enough, you will bend the pin.
It has to be -

If it's aligned Just perfectly, it won't

happen; but if you're Just a little bit off, you can have
that happen.

So what undoubtedly happened during the

multi-multi connections and disconnections that you maybe
opened up -

There's actually three little guides in there.

There's three slots, and you may have opened up the slot
Just a little bit.

And eventually it got to the point

where you were off enough, and it isn't very much, that
you were able to cause the pin to be bent.

And then next

time around you - like I say, when you tried to straighten
it, you broke it.
tion:

You've answered really my second ques­

Are the alignment marks adequate and you said yes,

they were.

And the next question I had is really with the

slop on the alignment, and I guess you're saying it was
adequate and it really isn't - the marks themselves were
pretty much aligned when you made the connections.
CARR

Yes, I think they were pretty good.

GIBSON

The marks would tell you where to make - where to get it
roughly aligned to begin with and then you go the remainder
by feel.

At least that's the way I made almost all the

connectors.

Jiggle it around until it felt it was going

to slip on and then you give it a little more force.

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�POGUE

That's exactly what I did and when you're explaining that
previous design in there, I was wondering why we didn't
break more.

I did exactly the same way Ed did.

I'd

wind up the little mark and sort of feel it - as soon as
I got the slot in the guide, I'd push it in.
VEGA

Right.

And it is a little difficult to push in, too.

I

mean it isn't - So the feeling that you have when you push
it in is good for is though - even if you're bending the
pin, you might not know it because it is a little bit
hard to push in.

On the overall question of alignment

marks, do you feel that maybe - did you have any general
comments on improving these like color, size - POGUE

Are you addressing a general problem or Just related to
the television?

VEGA

Related to the television because that's - I can't . . .
rest of them.

CARR

Design criteria should indicate that you should never have
two of the same size that can be crossed, and that's Just
to protect against Murphy's law.

You should always try

to color code and if - whenever possible make two con­
nectors be of different sizes so that you can't crossconnect them, if cross-connecting them will cause any
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�CARR
(CONT'D)

kind of damage to the equipment.

And those are just

overall, general desk philosophy of connectors.
have any special revelations on that.

We don't

I think that most

of that that's in the system right now is design criteria
for connectors.

Color coding is good; alignment marks

should he as accurate as possible; and whenever possible
you should try to change sizes.

VEGA

All right, next one.

Again, we're going back to the

connectors and that is did you have any other problems
with connectors within the MDA that gave you any kind of
problems, as fas as mating/demating - whether they had
standard pins or coaxial pins, as far as in the MDA?

CARR

No.

I think that there were a lot of people that were

scared to death we were going to screw up the ATM when we
were doing some of the connector mating and demating down
underneath the kick plate.

GIBSON

But - -

To put the auxiliary - S082B auxiliary timer on, we had
people all the way up the line worried about that one; and
it turned out to be a very simple Job.

CARR

As long as you got time to be careful it's not too. much
of a problem.

If you get in a big rush-rush situation

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that's when you starting banging up and ruining connectors

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�GIBSON

TV installation also had lots of connectors that had to
be made and broken, seme of those fairly fragile coaxes
and that proved to be no problem.

CARR

As long as you're careful.

Care is the big thing.

If

you take your time and don't rush you can usually do a
good Job of connecting; you can do as well as a techni­
cian who does it for a living, I think.

POGUE

Probably better.

(Laughter)

GIBSON

You worry more than a technician.

VEGA

I think that answers my next question because I was going
to ask you if you felt that things like this pin being
broken could have been avoided if let's say that the way
the actual connector shell or the way it was actually
designed externally - what you have to see and what you
have to hold are a little bit different?

CARR

Externally, no, because the TV input stations were were
high-use stations and frequently we were in a big hurry.
Because we were running behind, we had to get the TV sys­
tem tossed together and set up and running.

POGUE

Now that thing could have been fatigued before we ever
put that plug on there.

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GIBSON

I think the secret is to make something where the
tolerances which will allow you to make any kind of a
start of a connection at all will assure you that you're
not going to bend the pin.

POGUE

Yes.

VEGA

Okay.

Very good.

Let me ask you one more question on

that pin and that is before you went to plug it up, you
didn't realize of course it could have been bent prior
to then?
CARR

You really didn't know that?

We're not in the habit of inspecting the male and female
side of a pin - connector before you mate it.

V)

You don't

have time for that, but I'm sure that's a good procedural
rule to do before you ever make it - make any kind of a
connection; you should inspect both to make sure your
pins are okay.

GIBSON

That's Just not realistic.

I did that on putting the auxiliary timer together, but
I think that's the only time I did that.

CARR

Oh, yes.

But that's a one-time thing.

GIBSON

That was a one-time thing which I knew everybody was superworried about.

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�VEGA

Yes, I guess really sort of a summary area, basically
saying that the - as far as future design of any hardware
like this, all we really have to do is use some good
design practices, and have good alignment marks, and
ensure we have good tie tolerances and then frcm there
it's up to the astronaut to do the Job.

CARR

Just be aware of the fact if you got a type of connector
that's going to be frequently done and is likely to be
done in the heat of battle or when you're in a big rush-rush
situation you need to design protection into it.

But if

it's a one-time sort of thing where you know the guy is
to be very conscious and careful, it seems to be Just
what normal, standard design criteria would hold.

You

have to kind of think about under what circumstances is
the connection going to be made and broken.
GIBSON

I had the feeling that those connectors on the TV were
a little bit sloppier in amount of off-axis angle you
have and still start the connection.

It's not like seme

of the ones which really had to be precisely lined up
before you could even insert it all the way and start
turning down on the collar.
little more play in it.
detriment or not.

It Just seemed to have a

I'm not sure whether that was a

It may have been an advantage.

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VEGA

All right, that ties in with my next question a little
bit, and I'll just try to wind these questions up a
little bit quickly here, because I think you've summarized
it real good.

And that is, were there any connectors

again associated in the MD that might have had any back
shells or anything of these things come loose on you?
Did you have any of those where actually you found that - CARR

No, I think we hollered enough about loose back shells to
where people got very ginchy about that, really checked
back shells all over the workshop, but I don't remember
having any back shells come loose on me?
we surely got a lot of them interested.

V)

Do you?

But

We did a lot of

hollering and people really turned to them and made sure
it didn't happen on the flight vehicle.
GIBSON

On one of the TVs we could - I noticed this especially
when I working in the MDA and trying to back the TV up
against the wall; you push those cables which came out
from the TV and into the monitor; if you'd push on those
cables, sometimes you would lose the picture, indicating
we had some sort of a transient or sane sort of wire there
which was making or breaking either the wiring in the
cable or the cable connection to be - That happened on
just a couple of occasions and I could readily clear it

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GIBSON
(CONT'D)

by Just moving it away from the wall.

It never turned out

to be a permanent problem so I never really made anything
of it.
POGUE

That's right; I lost a monitor once.
monitor picture.

VEGA

Okay; well, fine.

I couldn't get a

You told me about that.
That's all the questions I have on the

connectors and I appreciate the answers.
GIBSON

Thank you.

QUERY

Okay, next we'd like to discuss the airlock communication
systems and the Bill Wiggins with - of - McDonnel East

V)

will lead that.
WIGGINS

Now the first - the first question I have is on the
teleprinter when you clean the heads.

Do you remember

the mission day that you cleaned the heads with the
alcohol?
CARR

And did your problem clear up after this?

Yeah, that was the day where they sent us up seme messages
and we said they were terrible and the we change the paper
and they sent us up another batch and they were still
terrible and so we changed, the entire head with a-new
roll of paper and they were still bad.

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And then you cleaned it up.

And then I cleaned it.

This

was probably around day TO - -

POGUE

Somewhere along there; it was pretty late.

CARR

It was near the end of the mission.

But the reason why

I decided to clean it is because after we failed three
times with different rolls and different heads, we got I stuck my head down there and started looking at it and
I saw little bits of - of white along the head, along the
print, and it looked like some of the coating on the paper
had rubbed off on the area there and was Just deposited.
And so I figured - Well, let's see.

This thing uses

heat to do it, and so if I kill the power and clean it
with alchohol and then let it sit for a good time until
I'm sure it's dry, it - it probably will be all right.

WIGGINS

And you didn't have any problems after that?

CARR

No, it - it - boy, it was immediate.

It Just worked very

nicely.
POGUE

One thing.

It seemed like it would be real nice to be

able to adjust the pressure with some kind of double-set
screw on both sides of that head, because even though we
pull down on the head when we're installing - when we
change paper, we pull down before we tighten the Calfax.
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POGUE
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You really weren't doing all that much good because if you
looked in there, there was physical restraint to prevent
the head from pulling the paper against the head very much.
It sure would have been nice to have an adjustment in there
on that.

WIGGINS

Right.

Where you'd put it in there and have a lever that

you flipped it up?
POGUE

Or that with a predetermined pressure and then maybe some
kind of differential pressure adjustment on both sides,
because a lot of times

there was one side or the other that

was dim.
WIGGINS

Let me ask a question.

Just a minute.

Lee, can you

pinpoint that day, based on that info?
QUERY

We can get it out of the logs.

WIGGINS

Okay.

QUERY

Are you talking about the - -

WIGGINS

The day it happened.

QUERY

We went back and checked our logs, and we related.it to

I - I think we can.

mission day 19 or 20 when we really had a big, big flap
going.

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POGUE

It was lat er than that.

CARR

This was around - around TO something.

QUERY

TO something.

CARR

Yes.

GIBSON

We might have looked at it.

CARR

I think it was in the - Was it in the deactivation phase?

GIBSON

Yes.

POGUE

I remember it occurred on a day when it was a fairly slow

3

pace at that point, because I was up there watching.
were all up there in the MDA diddling around there.

We
I

was Just trying to - CARR

I didn't figure we had much to lose by then.
a few more days left in the mission.

We were only

And the teleprinter

was really crapping out on us, and I figured I ' d clean i t .
If it dissolved that - the write heads and would never
write again, I figured, well, it's better than what we
got.
QUERY

So it was worth a try.

Yes, well, much earlier, I guess, in the mission we had
period of time there that we couldn't get the teleprinter
pads up for the next day.

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Yes.

QUERY

And the - we worked up a procedure of suggested steps to
go through if you - if you - I think they sent messages
time after time and they were printed real light.

And

one of the questions INCO had, I think, was - Well, they
should clean - clean the head.

And the - we make the recom­

mendations, and we didn't really con - We said, well, we
felt like it wasn't - it wouldn't do any good to clean the
head itself but that you could Just pick loose particles
off the head, possibly.

But apparently there were things

that did stick to the head that you did clean in there.
CARR

Yes, there was some sort of a white deposit on there.

GIBSON

Yes.

POGUE

Didn't we have on a whole extra head?

GIBSON

Yes.

CARR

Yes, but it was failed.

QUERY

Yes, sir, but you had the broken drive roller on it.
You couldn't - We did have the spare on board, but we
never got into using i t .

POGUE

Oh, okay, because I trained to repair that.

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Right.

That's right.

POGUE

Okay.

QUERY

Trained to repair it, but we never had the occasion that We decided that the head was bad, you know, and it just it seemed to be - I believe the whole problem was that
contamination, because early in the mission we had problems
with paper.

You know, put a roll on it, and it wouldn't

work.

And then you'd put another roll on, and that would

work.

Maybe that had to do with the pressure that was

getting against the head, too.
CARR

Yes.

QUERY

But there's those two things we have noted, and - and we
take those into consideration.

WIGGINS

Okay, the next - the question I have is on the time
reference system.

On the mission day 27 at 12:15 GMT,

the EREP day counter Jumped to day 28 and remained one
day ahead for the remainder of the mission.

And then the

question we had is, did the GMT clock also Jump?
CARR

On two occasions the - the clock Jumped a day on us, and
we went back and set it.

POGUE

I think one time it jumped

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CARR

It was right around day 28, too.

POGUE

Yes, I guess it was. I - I think I did that.
doing something with the system.

I was up

And I put my hand over

it as a handrest while I was doing something on panel 201
or 202, and I thought I hit a switch.

And I looked over,

and everything, you know, looked normal.

And I think

what I did is, I advanced the date one.
GIBSON

Yes.

And then a couple of days later, I think I went

back and reset that one.

J

POGUE

An - and reset it.

GIBSON

And I think, Jerry, you reset the first one.

When we

first got up there, we were a date ahead.
CARR

Yes.

QUERY

Let's see. This particular one, do you recall when that
EREP day counter was off, late in the mission there?

CARR

No.

WIGGINS

You don't?

On SL-3 they had a portable timer mechanical

malfunction.

You know; those timers you carried around.

Spring had broken on it.

Did you have any problem on this

mission with those at all ?
POGUE

That had red tape on it; we never used it.

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The one was red taped, yes.

We left it in there and

never used it.
WIGGINS

You - Right; that was the one I wa6 - The ones you did
use, did you have any problem with them - malfunctions?

POGUE

Yes, my battery was starting to go down, I think, but I
never did change it; I had to shake it a couple of times,
to get it to run - quite often there toward the end to
get it to start.

Another thing.

This is a failure - sort of

a failure mode that was a bit disconcerting and - That is,
you got intermittent operation as the battery got down
low.

And a couple of times I got caught off because I

set my timer for a key event; and if I didn't watch the
second hand start moving, I could put it in ny pocket and
then it would Just not run.

It would - You know, it

wouldn't do anything.
QUERY

I see.

... get down to a weak battery should Just quit.

CARR

(Laughter)

Those timers were Just useless, though we've

got lots of words in our tech debrief of what we think
of the timing system throughout the spacecraft.
QUERY

The ... timers or the - -

CARR

All the different kinds of timers that we had available
to us.

They all stink.
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We didn't - we didn't see that in the tech debriefing,
did we?

QUERY

Do you remember what part that was in?

CARR

Probably under crew equipment.

QUERY

Crew equipment.

QUERY

Crew equipment.

CARR

Someone should sit down and invent - develop e timer that
has got versatility and flexibility for use by people
working up there.

POGUE

I had a presentation made up at one time which I never
gave anybody, but - all the nice features that you'd like
to have in a timer, including, you know, the feature design features as well as the display features.

But that

thing had an awful lot of bad features in that - Well,
one of the things was, you - you could set the timer to
start running; and then you release the button, and may
take several seconds before the thing would start moving.
If you were trying to set it on an accurate digital timer,
on that basis, of course, you - you - a couple of other
things, too.

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CARR

Yes, we had no - The timer reference system in the space­
craft system, we had no objection to it.

And we would

like to have had more repeaters, a repeater at every
single workstation

that required time sequ^hcing, for

instance, around the SAL and things like that so we didn't
have to bring wristwatches to do that work.

But it's the

portable timers and the event timers that we had to work
with that were Just terrible.
QUERY

What if these displays had - had a stopwatch type of
thing built in so you could hit them, would that have
been - -

POGUE

That'd be real nice.

CARR

That's the sort of thing we were looking for.

POGUE

And another thing is that a lot of times it's very
difficult to set a clock for a key mission event.

If

there's some way - For instance, if you had one of these
repeater stations , you can dial in to GMT and say down to
or up from, and push the button.

Then you start your

display - in addition to the regular repeater, then, you
have a display which starts counting down to this key
event.

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It's kind of like a sports car that's got an odometer but
it also has another little odometer right under it that's
resettable each time.

POGUE

Like when you fill the gas tanks up.

CARR

You need that feature in a clock.

You need the feature

where you can say whether or not it's more convenient for
you to count up from zero or count down from a number.
And if you're counting down from a number to zero, you
need also some time specified whether you want them to
keep on counting on down, whether you want it to stop
when it gets to zero, or whether you want it to start
counting up again when it hits zero.
GIBSON

We'd like to be able to reset the counter also very
easily.

We had an event timer on the ATM that was just

atrocious.

To reset it to a new number, you had to adjust

each digit independently.
CARR

And each one of them, each - it took a second each time
for the digit to count.

So if you were looking at 9, you'd

wait, you know, holding the switch and waiting for it to
count.

If you missed zero, it would Jump to 9 again and

then you would have to hold it some more.

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It would be

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(CONT'D)

much better if you could just flip in the dials and punch
a button and it transfers it from that into your time
register.

GIBSON

Because of the problems with that portable timer, I only
used it as an alarm clock on occasion. I never used it
otherwise.

QUERY

Yes, the previous crew said the same thing. Just to warn
them that something had to be done.

POGUE

Yes, that's right, general warning, not an accurate
warning.

GIBSON

Strictly an alarm - strictly a wakeup alarm clock.

If

I had had an operator I could have left a wakeup call with,
1 would have preferred that.
POGUE

Some of the systems management I used it on, because you
had to set things and wait 30 minutes, wait an hour, wait
2 hours, and that was handy in that respect. I tell you,
I never did trust it because of the problems that I had
with it.

Another thing, too, is that you could not set -

you could not depend upon that thing going off and ring­
ing a buzzer within a minute of the correct time because
there was a way of setting that second hand and that
minute hand so that - that when that thing got to zero,

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it took another minute before it actually sounded the
alarm.

So I never did trust the portable timer for

accurate timing at all.

It could be at least a minute

in error.
CARR

Surely somebody's got the ingenuity to invent a timer that
can be used accurately.

We're Just too hung up with

getting things off the shelf.
QUERY

That's right.

Are you using something from a previous

program?
CARR

Yes.

WIGGINS

The next questions I have are to do with audio, and you've

Okay.

already said quite a few things about the system.

And we

Just wanted to get some general data like when you had
this antifeedback network in the system, did you notice
that you had to get closer to the SIAs to get good intercom
or downlink?
CARR

Did you notice that distance change?

I don't think the distance was as large as people thought
it was going to have - the change was as big as people
thought it was going to have to be.

POGUE

As long as you got to put your finger on the button anyway,
it didn't make that much difference - the switch.

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QUERY

Even at arm's length you could still?

POGUE

Well, you know, why be at arm's length?
didn't make any difference.

That's why it

As long as you had to reach

out and push the button, you Just might as well be a
little bit closer.
GIBSON

We didn't even notice it.

I didn't.

A couple of times at the ATM, though, we were at arm's
length and they could still hear you on the ground. I
had a couple of calls that you couldn't hear too clearly,
but - -

POGUE

Yes, I guess that's right.

But it sure wasn't as bad as

the feedback.
(Laughter)
QUERY

Yes, I adjusted those in the OWS mockup to come down
here. That's quite a lot of twiddling.

QUERY

I noticed in the TV that - it looked like sometimes you'd
be hitting a switch and talking to the ground - that you
were all 8 to 10 inches from the speakers usually when you
talked.

GIBSON

The whole thing of the use of those input stations - first
of all we needed a very good microphone, several good
microphones, not Just the headsets which we had left -

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we pulled out of the command module.

But I don't know,

we'd go out to any small town across the countryside and
they've got these things here which work at this distance.
Why we couldn't have something like this up there, I'll
never know.
CARR

Or the TV announcer's got one that he can stand out in
the middle of Hurricane Carla and talk with, it's the ball
with a little black sock over the top of it.
doesn't need shouting.

He Just

Here we were up there with these

little mikes with the hole in the end of it trying to
talk, trying to keep it a quarter of an inch from our
lips and that's ridiculous.

)
POGUE

What are these - everybody keeps telling me "chat you can't
use these remote mikes, you know, with no wire on them
at all.

What's the problem there?

QUERY

You can use those.

POGUE

Well, why in the devil can't we get them?

Because if the

plumbers can use them - ...
QUERY

QUERY

McDonnell made a pitch for putting them in there, and we
couldn't sell it. So maybe the next time it'll go through.

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Well, you ought to put them in there because I'll tell
you ...

CARR

We ... strong operation on the tech debriefing.

QUERY

^es.

POGUE

Shuttle needs that.

GIBSON

They sure do.

Well, we read it; you didn't leave much in doubt.

Any time you're working on a panel and you'd

like to describe what you're doing, you got both hands
full and you don't want to wear a headset for a long
period of time; you've got no choice.
something like that.

You really need

We had many occasions like that

where we were trying to describe what we're doing and
there was data just flat lost.
QUERY

We had a microphone, the other thing is programatic, but
we were so pound conscious on the last thing.

And we

threw the mike off, and it's sitting there at the Cape.
It's pulled out of the locker.
CARR

Yes, we were - we were aware of that.
about it and we protested.

We felt very badly

But there were Just other

things that people felt were more important to be sent
up.
QUERY

Okay.

The next question is SIA number 131 that failed, and
we didn't get to bring it back to check it out.
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what we'd like to find out is some operation when you were
checking it, you know, malfunctioning - checking the

SIA.

When you hit ICOM with the transmit, did you notice a
speaker mute?

Did that work properly?

You know, when you

lip up, it kills the speaker on the one you're using.
Could - could you ... answer any questions like that?
GIBSON

Oh, boy.

CARR

That's so long ago,

QUERY

How about the - -

GIBSON

I ' d have to go back t o the voice transcripts and t r y to

I

don't know how we could.

dredge up anything out of memory.
QUERY

How about the switch, is it the same thing?
feel the tension?

Could you

Could you hear it click?

GIBSON

The switch mechanically seemed to - -

QUERY

I noticed in the transcripts you could hear it key.

GIBSON

Mechanically it seemed to function all right, but Just
what audio cues you got with it,

CARR

I

can't recall.

The only significant thing about 131 that made it so
unique from the others is Ed had his comm umbilical
connected to that thing all the time, and his little
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kludgie microphone made out of a CCA was there. That's
the only - that's - the only difference of the SIA with
all the others is this thing had the CCU and CCA on it
almost continuously.

And it was being moved frequently

from channel A to channel B, and I don't know how you can
figure that into the - factor that into the situation.
But that - that box had more CCU work than any other box
in the - in the - GIBSON

Yes, and talking about connectors being made and broken,
gee, we used to take - I personally, about a half a dozen
times a day, would change from channel A to channel B and
back again, depending on whether you were ... going up to
talk air-to-ground or talk with - on the tape recorder.
So that really was a high use.

And those connecting -

never had a ... pin failure there, and they all worked
great.
QUERY

You know, you remember solving this ALC bypass cable to
get rid of this 6-hertz oscillation on channel B.

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

Okay.

I was the one that did that.

Did you have any particular problems with the

installation of it?

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No, I didn't.

I only needed to use 1 CCU because the

CCU that I used Just worked perfectly.

And what I did

is, on the side of the box that the recorders are in, I
took my hacksaw and my Swiss army knife, and I cut a
notch in the side of the fiber glass.

And when you

stretched out the CCU, it had very mild tension on it.
It was a straight shot from the SIA in the dome to that
thing and the inside of the - the back shell Just fit
in the slot.

It Just - It was Just a perfect fit.

And

so then all I had to do was go along with some gray tape
and tape the CCU down so that it couldn't be kicked and
stretched.

And then the - Of course, the ALC bypass

system was all put inside, and I got it pushed down and and routed in order to minimize sharp bends in the cable
and all of that.

It was a very easy setup.

No problem

at all.
QUERY

We ended up pulling that back out, though, because

CARR

Yes, you did, because it apparently put an impedance in
the system to where we weren't getting good voice record­
ing any more.

QUERY

Right, when you are trying these - -

QUERY

Do you guys have something that you need to do that's
time critical?

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Not until 3 o'clock.

QUERY

We've got about two more questions? then we'll be through.

QUERY

When you install this cable, you run a test where you

We've got to be someplace at 3:00.

recorded on tape recorder 1 where the cable was installed
and used a normal system to put the voice on 3.

Could

you - Do you remember how close you were to the mike
when you ran the test, what the - CARR

Yes, I didn't change my mode of operation,

tfy normal,

mode of operation was to be between 2 and U inches away
from the mike.
QUERY

I think where the problem was was back at the ATM; we
started missing.

I believe I remember that.

This arm's-

length operation, that's when we put this bypass in and
it Just wouldn't work there.
QUERY

We would miss those calls.

When we ran the tests, it worked beautifully; you know,
when you were close to it.

But it Just wouldn't work

at arm's length.
QUERY

The last audio question I have is the one about problems
of that configuration

of the SIA.

And, if you don't

mind, I'll read from your technical debriefing.

It says

the same thing for the intercom, so you'll know that
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you're configured properly.

"A lot of times we would

spend maybe a minute, have to go off and configure other
SIAs to verify that our comm box was configured right."
Could you give us a more exact description of what you're
talking about there?
CARR

Well, I think the big thing there was somebody might use
channel A for recording somewhere and then walk off or
float off and leave the channel in A.

And then somebody

else would come up on A and flip it on to talk and you
would get the feedback whine.

Another problem we had was

Ed's microphone up in the ATM; he was in the habit of using
ICOM/PTT on that.
GIBSON

Initially or - -

CARR

And then.he would hang that thing up and put it down,
and you'd get all the rate gyro noise going into that
hot mike.

And then some guy down in the workshop would

turn on channel A to start recording and you would hear
all that hot mike noise.

And that took time, to go

correct the situation.
GIBSON

It turned out to be much better later.

I just left it

on PTT and used it in that mode all the time, and it
worked very well.

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�CARR

But those are the kinds of things we'd have, where you
would turn on a channel and get ready to record something
and you would hear spacecraft noise somewhere.

And what

that meant was somebody had a CCU hooked up to channel B
and it was in ICOM/PTT.

And the two places where it

happened the most we were at the SAL where you were doing
data, and you wanted ICOM/PTT or up in the ATM.
mean ATM but MDA - two places up there.

I don't

Either at the

ATM panel, and usually right after an EREP pass, somebody
would end up having to go up there and disconnect the
headsets because either Bill or I would go off and leave
it in ICOM/PTT.

QUERY

Did you ever use the call switch on the box?

POGUE

Never did.

CARR

I did once or twice by mistake snatching for the switch
and - -

QUERY

Did it work all right?

CARR

Yes.

POGUE

There is another case where - that validates that comment.
And that is, a lot of times or occasionally you go in a
sleep compartment to do some recording, turn on channel A,
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POGUE
(CONT'D)

ICOM/FTT, do the recording, go back, leave it on.

See;

leave it on channel A, and some guy going to work in the
wardroom and getting ready to put some stuff on recording
and taking photographs and he'd get this terrible feed­
back established.

That was a bad one because you'd go

all over looking for that hot box, and I tell you, that
system - we got to come up with something better than
that; that is bad.
QUERY

Okay.

POGUE

I t ' s disconcerting, and you're just wasting an awful lot
of time.

3
CARR

If there is some sort of a feedback baffle that you
could put out in front of -

QUERY

We tried that.

The only way you can do it is put your

hand over it and push down, kill it.

The mikes were too

sensitive.
CARR

All of that could have been solved by having a separate
tape recording system that we carried on our person.

And

there is nobody to interfere with you that way.
POGUE

It was instigated by a recording operation of some kind
or another some place.

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And all you would have to do when you are at a given
workstation and you've got to record what you are doing,
you could Just take a jack plug and plug it into a posi­
tion at that workstation and put TRS data on your tape
and then just talk.

When your tape was full, you'd take

it and put it on a machine and signal the ground with a
lever or, you know, a switch that there's a full cassette
sitting on the dump mechanism, and they can dump it.
When they are through with it, they can light a light on
the thing that says the tape that has been sitting here
has been dumped and is ready for reuse.

And that way you

get off all that feedback problem and POGUE

One of the things that I found very inconvenient about
the SIA design in general was that you had the same switch
for TRANSMIT and INTERCOM, which is fine if you're
addressing the SIA in the one-g preferential posture.
If you're trying to use an SI which was mounted above
the ergometer, we were always hitting the wrong position
in that switch.

And this is why in the tech debriefing

we suggested there be a separate switch, one for TRANSMIT
and one for ICOM.

And also the fact that the switch

should be designed for zero-g operation.

There was

actually - It took enough force to hold that switch in

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position, you'd end up torquing your body around a lot
of time. You would hold against the little side guard.
You would actually hold that, and with the two fingers,
you would end up moving your body around as you were
talking.

And this is the second reference I'll make to

Popular Science in our debriefing, but my kid takes
Popular Science Magazine, and they have a button in
there - These were NASA tech briefs put in this little
magazine now - This was an omnidirectional button which
I thought I had invented in flight.

But NASA's already

got it in a tech brief, and the fact that you can move
this button from any angle - all you got to do is touch
it.

Mine was a little different; you could pinch it

from any direction, a ring-type button.

But I would much

prefer something like that so that you can approach this
SiA from any direction.

And you could reach out and there

is no - you don't - it's not - You don't have a question
in your mind as to which way I move that switch.

You just

pinch it on the ring or push the little knob.

QUERY

That's all the questions I had. I'll turn back over to
Jack.

QUERY

Okay, I Just had a couple of concluding questions on the
instrumentation system, specifically concerning the OWS.

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QUERY
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I believe on mission day 25

you had difficulty determi­

ning the correct position of the EXPERIMENT 2 TELEMETRY
MODE SELECT switch on the OWS C&amp;D panel?

I think you had

to count the clicks or something to really know where
it was set.

And I Just wondered if - if there was a

significant difference in the indicator knobs between
the EXPERIMENT 1 and EXPERIMENT 2 switch; there must
have been?
CARR

Well, yes.

The knob was getting loose on the shaft is

all it was.

And if we'd kept on working them without

being able to get in there and tighten the knob on the
shaft, sooner or later it would have sheered, and you
wouldn't have been able to do anything with it.
EXPERIMENT 1 was little looser than EXPERIMENT 2.

And
But

EXPERIMENT 2 was beginning to loosen up, too
QUERY

Oh, I thought it was EXPERIMENT 2 that was really loose?

POGUE

It was, Jerry.

CARR

Was it 2?

Okay.

One - The real loose one wcs the one

we complained about and then the other one was not as
loose but getting loose.

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It certainly was ambiguous.

Several times I went all the

way back to OFF and counted the clicks because it registered
right halfway between.
QUERY

It was halfway between the marks then - is where, and you
didn't know which one you were on?

POGUE

No.

Fortunately I think you came along and said don't

change it; Just always leave it 2
QUERY

Leave it in position B - -

POGUE

Yes, B.

GIBSON

That was confusing.

We lost a little bit of data, I guess,

because of it.
CARR

But if we'd Just had a tool where we could have gotten in
there and tightened that thing on the shaft again, we
would have been all right.

QUERY

Yes, well - -

CARR

That was pretty inaccessible.

QUERY

Right.

The tests showed that there was supposed to be

plus or minus 7 degrees of play in the shaft, and you'd
feel that on the knob.

But apparently you had a lot

more than that, because between the marks - you had

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something like 25 degrees between the positions there.
So if you were Just plus or minus 7 degrees, you would
have know where - where you were; so if there were some
other loosening back connected with the shaft there - That
was a pretty complicated switch back there too and it
was inaccess - unaccessible to tighten anything.

There

was a setscrew on the front that could have been tightened,
but did you actually
CARR

We saw that setscrew, but it didn't look to me like you
could get an Allen wrench in there to do it.

QUERY

Okay.

CARR

See the whole thing was kind of recessed slightly and

QUERY

Yes, yes.

There was some procedure that the contractor

came up with.

I don't know whether it ever was uplinked

but
CARR

No, it wasn't.

POGUE

Another example though where you have a feedback to tell
you what you actually had selected, mechanical feedback
is the greatest.

I mean, if the switch had worked, right,

that would have been fine.

But it's Just another argument

in favor of having a feedback to verify that you have

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POGUE
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selected what you want to select.

Whether it's worth

the trouble or not depends on what data you're working
with I suppose.
QUERY

Okay; well, just one final question.

Were there any

problems with the I&amp;C system that haven't been discussed?
POGUE

I think we hit that pretty hard in the technical
debriefing.

CARR

Yes.

POGUE

Instrumentation and comm.

CARR

We haven't made a big thing with you today about cassette

I can't think of any other areas.

TV and up- and downlink capability, but it's in the
technical debriefing and we verily
QUERY

We've read that and

CARR

We also made the same pitch to the managers; we're looking
for support in that area.

I don't think we need to spend

any time - QUERY

One comment on the cassette TV:

That was looked into

pretty hard at the time we were trying to find the video
tape recorders.

And the design and the development at

that time wasn't along - 188

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Yes, it's

QUERY

We couldn't commit a program at that time because it was
Just too - We would have had something like that for the
video tape recorder.

Actually the video tape recorder,

we think, turned out to be an excellent machine; it was
bulky, it was large.

And you - -

POGUE

Yes, we had the room.

QUERY

Yes.

QUERY

You carried up some pieces to fix the other one with,
that had a failed part in it, but we never used that
either.

CARR

But I think that cassette TV would be - -

Very, very powerful tool to be used in the future, I
think.

QUERY

Thank you very much.

GIBSON

Thank you.

POGUE

Can we get faster than real time though?

QUERY

Well, that's a real problem.

POGUE

Okay.

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QUERY

It's taken so much band width, it's going to be a problem
through the relay satellite, too, to get that stuff
faster than real time.

QUERY

Okay, Jerry, we need to do a little planning here.

You

need to leave here at a quarter to 3:00, you said?
CARR
QUERY

Yes, that's about right, yes.
Harold, about how much time do you think you'll take in
the structure and mechanics?

&gt;

QUERY

About ...

QUERY

Say again.

QUERY

About 30 minutes.

QUERY

About 30 minutes, and Charlie in the contamination, about
how much?

QUERY
QUERY

I'd say about 20.

20.

Okay, if we double that, that's about (laughter) -

What do you want - How long do you want to take for
lunch then, Jerry?
CARR

Well, let's see; looks like we need about an hour and a
half, probably, to dedicate to getting the work done
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this afternoon, and if we want to leave at 3:00 - at
quarter of 3:00, that's quarter of two -

QUERY

1:15 would be an hour and half.

CARR

1:15 - an hour and a half from now. I think that's
reasonable.

1:15?

QUERY

1:15.

CARR

We can even get some exercise in that much time.

GIBSON

Sure.

QUERY

Okay, we'll pick up again at 1:15 promptly.

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QUERY

Okay, we're going to pick up the stuff that's in the
mechanical area, and Harry Smyly from Marshall has the
questions; so I'll turn it over to him.

SMYLY

What I'd like to do first is to start out and see if I
can get some more observations that you made when you
were outside the vehicle for our materials evaluation.
On the ATM ... that's ... side, did you see any deteriora­
tion in the form of blistering, scaling, discoloration,
or anything like that?

CARR

On the solar panels?

SMYLY

On the Sun side of ATM.

CARR

On the canister part?

SMYLY

Right.

CARR

No, I did not - did not see any blistering.
of discoloration was seen.

A great deal

Some of it was - showed

indications of a shadowing, like the foot restraint and
the shadow of toe. The part that goes over the toes on
the foot restraint was - could be seen down lower in the

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paint.

The color that's on the zero-g fixture plate -

the fixture cover that we brought back, if it hasn't done
any changing, is the color of the entire Sun end of the of the ATM canister.

SMYLY

So that's a good - -

CARR

Sort of a beige.

QUERY

That's the zero-g plate.

CARR

The zero-g plate - that's 5-&gt; 6-inch diameter.
of mousetrapped on that one.

We - I sort

I doggone near lost that

son of a gun because nobody told us in the description
of that plate that there was 2 inches of foam or whatever
that material was behind that, and when I was trying to
pry that thing up, it just didn't come up like a flat
plate.

And then as I got to prying it up, I realized

there was more behind it.
it flipped.

And I caught it in midair, or it was on its

way to retrograde.
blistering.

And one time as I was prying,

But I did - do not remember seeing any

And I do remember that when I got to the

screws that are - that are - holding that plate down, I
dug in the paint.

I dug the paint out of the slots in

the screws so I could start the screwdriver.

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And I could

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CARR
(CONT'D)

see that the paint was still fairly white underneath,
/

that the discoloration was a surface discoloration.

It

didn't penetrate too deeply into the paint.
SMYLY

Well, did you notice that any of it would smear or rub
off with glove, rather than with the metal screwdriver?

CARR

I saw no indications that it would smear off.

As I

mentioned before, I - I did scramble around on the front
of that thing on the last EVA in order to get pictures,
and I essentially went across to the other side of it
where there were no restraints of any kind and hung over
the side of it, took pictures of the command module.

And

when I went back, I saw no indications of the scrambling
that I had done and the places where I had already touched
it with my boots and things.

I Bav no indications of

smudging at all, which to me indicated paint discoloration
more than a film - Surface contamination.

CARR

Surface contamination.

QUERY

So it did look different from what you saw down around
the CSM.

CARR

w

I

POGUE

Yes.

It all looked the same color.

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�QUERY

About the same color?

CARR

I shouldn't have said yes so quickly.
look any different.

It - it didn't

The contamination was about that

color too, and it could be that the contamination was
in the roughness of the paint.

You know, the paint on

the Sun end is quite rough and doesn't lend itself too
well to the kind of smudging and smearing that I think
you're driving at.

The paint is - was almost as rough

as the stucco which you see in walls - the plaster you
see in the walls around here.

It's a very rough paint.

SMYLY

Did it look uniform, other than for the shadows?

CARR

Other than the shadows, it looked very uniform.

SMYLY

While in that area, were there any indications that the
seals on the doors stuck if you tried to open them?

CARR

I saw no indications of it; however, the 82B door did
stick.

And it appeared to me that the reason for the

sticking was not so much for the seals - due to the seals,
but due to a warping of the door hinge itself.
SMYLY

Yes.

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I tried to open that door on a dark-side pass, and it
flat would not open.

And so what I decided to do was

just wait until the Sun came - Sun came out and then give
it a chance to heat up, and hopefully the door would warp
it•s way back.

But you could see the - Looking at the

door - It seems to me, the door looked something like
this.

And this was the hinge line, and if this - this

dimension here being narrower than this dimension here.
And the - there was a hole here, the aperture.
I guess it was in further, more like this.
me like the door was caught.

Actually,

It looked to

The hinge was cocked in this

direction so that this corner of the door was Jammed into
the aperture or the sill, you might say, that the door
closed in to.

There was nice, wide tolerance all the way

up here and around this corner, and it looked fairly wide
here and got narrower and narrower to the corner.

And it

looked like the door was warped down into that corner.
Now when we got to the Sun-side pass, I saw no indication
that the door warped back.

But once I did give it a

little time to warm up, I was able to open it.

But during

the dark-side, I actually put my hand in here and pulled
on the door a few times, because, you know, the locking
handle is back here.

I figured I got more leverage, more

distance from the hinge line, by pulling here, and even

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that didn't do any good in the dark case.

Rut once we

let - It warmed up, and what we did was - As you're looking
at the Sun end of the ATM, the foot restraints are here.
That door, for the normal case when I was opening it,
was - was like this.

And it seems to me, the other - the

other door was about like this.

This was the A door, and

this was the B door, as I remember.

And this door was at

my left hand, which is my weaker hand, ny weaker arm, and
about here for pulling.

Now what happened is, as we

were waiting for the Sun to come out, I had Bill rotate
the canister around so that the B door was right in front
of me.

And that improved the leverage situation, I

think, because I was able to pull this way with both hands
instead of Just with my left hand over here.
the fact that we put it in the Sun.
which probably helped us to open it.

And also

You got two factors
But looking at the

seal, I saw no indication of the seal getting sticky or
anything like that.

It looked to me like a structural

abutment right there at that corner, the fact that it
was Just warped right into it.
SMYLY

Did you make any observations on the sail that would
indicate deterioration, or the PBI ropes?

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I could look at it.

I could see that it was still intact,

slightly discolored.

FBI rope looked faded.

I'm trying

to give you an example down here.
3MYLY

You mentioned that there was a fold that had opened up.

CARR

Yes, there was a fold in the twin-pole sail that had
opened up, and we got good photography of that that shows
you that.

And i t o p e n e d s o m e t i m e b e t w e e n E 7 A - 3 a n d E V A - k ,

because on EVA-3, when I was out at the Sun end, I looked
back and could see no - No, I wasn't at the Sun end on
EVA-3; so it happened between EVA-2 and -It.
minute.

Didn't we bring 1U9 in on EVA-3?

Wait a
Yes; so I was

at the Sun end of EVA-3.
POGUE

Yes, yes.

CARR

But I didn't see the open fold on the EVA prior to the

Right.

one - to the last one.

And then on the last EVA, I looked

out there, and I was taking movies.

And there was this

fold open with a nice white area, and all the rest of the
sail was discolored.
SMYLY

What about the flag?

Did you make any particular obser­

vations there?
CARR

3

The flag?

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Yes.

CARR

You mean the one on the - -

POGUE

Docking end.

CARR

- - docking end?

3MYLY

Right.

CARR

Yes; I saw no significant change in color there.

POGUE

There was yellow around it.

I didn't notice that the white

in the white stripes had changed any - not as much, it
didn't seem like.

Of course, that doesn't get quite as

direct Sun, either.
CARR

Yes.

SMYLY

What about the multilayer insulation in the forward OWS
bulkhead?

Did you notice anything there?

CARR

I didn't.

3MYLY

Did you notice whether any of the SAS diodes were cracked
or looked like they may be coming loose from the potting
or missing or anything like that?

CARR

I looked at that fairly closely, and I could nave gotten
a closer look at it if I'd had time to really go look at

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it.

But from the area where I was looking, it looked

very much intact and very much unchanged.

I saw no

indication of any warpage or anything line - that might
indicate that.
POGUE

Are you - You look at the "bottom of the SAS panel, you
have this sort of funny looped-wlre pattern, you know,
where it apparently goes out and connects up with separate
little strings of solar panels.
talking about?

Now is this what you're

What would be evidence of what you're

talking about?
SMYLY

I'm speaking of the little diodes on the panels that
absorb the rays themselves.

CARR

Little 3/l6ths by 1 inch.

POGUE

Yes, those are tiny little things.

What would you notice

when one of them peeled up?
3MYLY

Well, it would look like if they weren't uniform flat
or any - -

POGUE

We had some very good coverage on the flyaround, and
there's enough highlights and sunglint on those panels
that you ought to be able to pick it up if there's any
problem with it.

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CARR

I also got the 16-millimeter stuff and some Nikon pictures
of those panels, too.

SMYLY

Okay.

GIBSON

I looked at those also, and they looked pretty good.
I could never notice anything by eye.

And

I always marveled

at how uniform they did look.
SMYLY

Okay.

Were there any significant events that we left out

that might support in evaluating the specimens - the
two sail materials or the airlock ... seal specimen or
the zero-g protective cover?

Was anything significant in

the way they were handled or that might help us?
CARR

No, we tried to stay away from it as much as possible
while they were out there.

Let's see.

You included in

that the sample that we took off the airlock, which I
cut off of the airlock hinge?
SMYLY

Yes, if you have any comments on that.

GIBSON

The only thing is, I tried to get another - I would have
liked to have brought back another one which 3howed the
effects of a light protector.

You know, the little wire

protectors that surround the lights we had outside.

The

shadowing of that was just - stood right out against
the - the background of the type of materials we brought

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back.

You can see the imprint of that, if you will,

right - very clear, and that wire was only, you know,
very thin; so the shadows are very sharp up there.

And

we only gave you one - one edge where we actually had a
good shadow, and I think that still stands out very
sharply.

I'm not sure whether we were able to get any

pictures of that one little effect of the shadowing of
the light fixture.

I would have liked to have brought

it back because it's Just interesting to look at, but
there was Just no way of cutting - cutting it out
POGUE

You know why one of the - This is certainly not personal.
One of the fallacies of this type of question is, the
time at which you're most sensitive to these unique events,
like this printing of the shadows, the light guard on that,
is when you first go out.

On your first EVA you go out

there, and you're Just like a kid, you know.

And i t ' s

at that point that your curiosity is peaked, and - you
know - it's all over the world.

Man, these questions -

You could answer all these questions then, if you had
them ahead of time.

And now thinking back, it's awful

hard if you try to remember, because you get Jaded to
it after an hour even.

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Tn handling the raicrometeoroid

shield, though, there was

nothing special we could do with it while we were in the
suits.

But as soon as we got out of the suits, we rolled

them up with the outside on the inside.
and taped them.

I rolled them up

And I think that's the way you got

them back, was with - the way they were rolled up, taped,
right after the EVA, so that all the exposed area was
inside and the part that we touched with our hands was
what was inside the meteoroid shield, on the inside there.
The - What was the piece of aluminized Ifylar that was on the
strut near D02U, that I think the SL-2 group put out?
Was that the SEVA sail sample?

I tell you, we had so

many sail samples there, we lost track of what was what.
And when it came stowage day and they would tell us to
put the parasol sample here and the SEVA sail sample
over here and this sample there, I couldn't have told
you for the love - life of me what was what.
QUERY

I don't know what order they were in.

CARR

But if you showed me the sample, I could tell you where
I got it.

GIBSON

Have you done any analysis to see what material was
coated out on all that?

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�SMYLY

No, I tried to get that the day before I left.

It is

still in the lab, and we didn't get any results.

I tried,

also, to get something on that coating and - GIBSON

We had that on the command module windows.

And we had

the question this morning, "Was that RCS or - Just where
was it from?"
SMYLY

We'd like to get some samples of that.

We don't have any

samples of that coating at Marshall, and we would like
to get some.
GIBSON

There must be some of it on the samples we brought back. ''

CARR

Yes, it's got to be on those surfaces.

SMYLY

There's some here, but we haven't got any there.

QUERY

You're talking about - You're talking about something
like that zero-g fixture, maybe, from the Sun end or the
sail samples or something like that.

CARR

Well, I think all over the whole place.

POGUE

It almost looked like something was water soluble.
already been mentioned.

SMYLY

It's

Probably a complex effect.

What you are mentioning here sounds like it's very similar
to the discoloration and the shadowing that was on the
20k

�SMYLY
(CONT'D)

camera that - I believe it was Apollo 11 brought back
from Moon, the old Surveyor camera.

CARR

Just strictly ultraviolet discoloration then.

GIBSON

That's what some of it is, but ... on the command module
windows was not that ...

If we saw it on the command

module windows, it must have somehow got over the rest
of the vehicle, too.

3MYLY

Do you have any - Excuse me.

CARR

Go ahead.

I was going to say that's the problem.

what desimplifies this whole thing.

That's

And that is, we lay

there in the command module on the water and watched
contamination film on the window get washed off.

GIBSON

Also, the part which was shaded up there in the airlock
still had the tan color to it, not anywhere near as dark
as that which was exposed to the UV; so there was really
two effects going on there - one of the coating and one
of the sunlight.

CARR

I hate to complicate your life, but.

SMYLY

Do you have any comments on the performance of the
ergometer - from a mechanical standpoint?

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Other than the fact that I wish it could have taken a
higher heat load, total heat load, because that constrained
our operation sometime.

I don't think any one individual

any one of us ever rein into the problem, he alone starting
from scratch putting too much energy into it.

But we'd

like to run consecutively, and sometimes we were con­
strained; we couldn't.

I'd go put 8000 into it, and

Jerry or Bill would hop on and put in 6; and that would
be about all it could take.
POGUE

The pedals, also, you've already mentioned in tech debrief­
ing.

Be nice if you could grease all the moving parts

without having to work into them with a toothpick or
something like that.

We never felt like we really got

the Krytox in the right pedal - into the right-side
pedal.
SMYLY

We learned pretty early that one of our mistakes was not
designing for maintenance.

GIBSON

One thing, I think that we all found that we tend to ride
at a higher rpm up there.

And I was continually bumping

against 80 and maybe a little above 80.

I would like

to have had the capability of reading out and having
it operate, say, up to 90 or so.

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Without any constraint, too.
make any difference.

I can't see that that should

It's Just the way, I think, it

turned out.
GIBSON

I don't think anybody ever worked on it as low as 1+0.
Down here on the ground you sometimes do, but up there
you lack the weight and also being able to exert a pull
on the upstroke; you Just go the higher rpm.

CARR

Seems to me all of us were about - riding about 10 rpm
higher up there than we were down here.

SMYLY

After you reserviced the airlock module coolant system,
did you ever go back and inspect that saddle valve to
see if there was any indication of leakage or seepage
around it?

POGUE

Yes, sir, I did.

CARR

I did, too.

SMYLY

You noticed

POGUE

Nothing.

Many times,

I tell you, if you ever get anything like

that again, we need more protection.

This Just goes to

show - This is a good example of why you've got to overprotect.

The thing was protected well enough in normal

traffic.

But we started taking photographs out of the
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STS window.

And you'd go up there, and you'd get up

there at night, turn all the lights out.

.ted you'd be

in there thumping around - you know, kicking and thrashing
trying to get the camera in the right position to take a
picture of the comet, and suddenly be aware of the fact
that you were on top of that plate.

So I checked it

many, many times, and never did we disturb that plate.
But once I got out of there, turned the lights back on
and - in the MDA, and I Just about had a heart failure
because I looked up there right where I'd been and that's
where the saddle valve was.
CARR

And - -

Of course, the thing is, if we design our systems in the
future - I hope somebody's listening - for maintainability
by the people there - in order to get your reliability by having component replacement capability and module
replacement and maintainability capability, then you
wouldn't have things like saddle valves sticking up that
you had to worry about.

SMYLY

I'd like to discuss the shower a little bit.

There toward

the end of the mission, the power module, one of you said
it sounded like it had water inside.
wasn't running at that time.
breaker?
208

I assume that it

Did you check the circuit

�~y
CARR

Oh, yes.

It - For a while it would try to run.

You

could hear it humming in there and trying to move the
rotor - I assume there was a rotor in there - but it
couldn't get up to any kind of speed.

JMYLY

So you did run at the low speed.

CARR

And then finally, after we kept fiddling with it, trying

%

to get it to run, we let it dry out real wel3 and tried
it again.

POGUE

Yes.

It was frozen up solid then.

I started trying to dismantle the vacuum cleaner,

and that was bad news.

That brings up a couple of points.

One is that we got water irretrievably trapped in the

'Z&gt;

vacuum cleaner, which suggests that you ought to have The vacuum cleaner bag itself was a good trap, but it
didn't protect the vacuum cleaner from a deluge.

There

ought to be some way of getting in there and getting the
water out.

I think we could retrieve that vacuum cleaner,

but it was potted.
else.

The joints were potted and everything

You know, you just can't take one of those apart

very easy.
SMYLY

All that was done because, you know, it had low suction
anyway and we were trying to cut down on leakage and
improve the performance.

J

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It could stand all the improvement you can give it.

CARR

Okay.

It just flat died on us.

And that filter that's

supposed to protect it did not protect it well enough
"because we frequently after a shower would check the
filter, and after Just one guy showered, the filter would
have three-quarters of it full of water.

QUERY

Three-quarters.

CARR

And sometimes it would have no water in it.

But on at

least two occasions, I checked that filter, and it was
three-quarters full of water.

And on one occasion, it

was full.
POGUE

Okay.

The next question I'm going to ask, Jerry, is,

Did we follow the sequence in the checklist?

And the

answer is yes.
QUERY

Now the question I'm going to ask is, Did you ever use
any of the Neutragena soap in the shower?

CARR

Yes, when we ran out of shower soap, the last couple of
showers.

GIBSON

And that didn't make anv difference.

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�POGUE

Well, it can.

CARR

Now you were saying this Neutragena soap would foam.

•t

Oh, yes.
your bag.

And when it foams, then you pump foam into
Then you get water in your filter.

And the

Neutragena soap will wet the filter and cause the filter
to pass water.

That's the way you got water in the

power module.

We feel that filter is good for about

10 minutes with the Neutragena, but it's good for maybe
10 hours with the Nairanol.
POGUE

Well, that's a possible explanation of the problem.

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Yes, except we were having full filters before we ever
started using Neutragena.

SMYLY

The filter's good for 2 hours with the Naironol.

POGUE

We only used Neutragena one time. We used it for one
shower.

And I got in and got ready to take a shower and

turn everything on, and nothing was working.

I had to get

out and take a sponge bath.
QUERY

But another thing the Neutragena does is, it stops up the
little orifices in the collection box. And then you can't
collect at all.

POGUE

But if it had enough shampoo to fill a volume - Yes. But
those big hypodermic things are way overdesigned.

If

we'd Just had the volumes we devoted to them for the
shampoo, we'd have had plenty.
CARR

Yes.

Boy, those were really overdesigned.

SMYLY

In the collection hose, now, we understand you had
problems picking up the water and the other crews did, too.
Did you ever try taking the little collection tool off and
just using the end of the hose?

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�I don't think that would have been any better.

What you

needed was a nozzle - a rubber nozzle would have been good something that had a narrower mouth on it and maybe was
longer and was flexible enough to contour to your body
better.

But the thing was, you Just weren't getting

enough suction through that thing and - since it was a
metal nozzle and you didn't have much contour to your
body; so the only way you could go around your arm was
this way, and - They were staggered, too.
made it harder.

The lips were offset, which

And something else in that.

It was really

sort of hard to get the water off the side of the shower.
You'd listen; you could hear the guy in there going around
and around and around with that thing, trying to - You'd try
to scoop it, and that wouldn't work.
use it like a scoop shovel.

You'd think that you'd

And then you'd try it flush,

and then you'd try a blower load up.

It didn't work too

well.

But while it ran, it was sure nice to get in there and get
water all over you and then get yourself cleaned up.
What was the use frequency?

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Once a week.

QUERY

Did each of you use it about once a week?

CARR

Yes.

Once in a while one of us would skip it because of

maybe a time consideration or something, but that was about
it.
SMYLY

Well, was the shower separator - Did it seem to be opera­
ting normally at the end of the mission?

CARR

We had a little trouble with the switch.

There near the

end, you'd throw the switch and nothing would happen.

And

if you just moved the switch a couple of times, it would
work.

And it looked - Maybe we had an open or something in

the switch.

It didn't seem to have anything to do with

the separator because a couple of times I'd throw the
switch and if nothing happened, then I would hit the
separator a couple of times to see if there was something
in there that needed to be jarred and that worked fine.
And finally, by just cycling the switch hard, taking the
switch and really banging it down to off end then back
to on again, it would start up; so it indicated to me the
switch contact just wasn't making it.

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�3MYLY

The washcloth squeezer - Now you rebuilt, reserviced that
early in the mission.

Did it seem to deteriorate any

more through the mission?

CARR

No, the ... seal worked real well.
the water out.

It seemed to squeeze

The reason why we changed it is just

because of the odors.

It just got dirty, and we cleaned it

up and put a new squeezer bag on it to collect the water
and hope we just could eliminate as many sources of odor
as possible.

POGUE

On the washcloth squeezer itself, it should be as smooth with few convolutes, angles, and so forth - as possible
to - because it picked up all kinds of crud in there.

CARR

Oh, i t was awful with a l l those mechanisms.

root IE

Angle irons, 90-degree bends, and all that.

And fine work

in some places.

SMYLY

Mechanically, it was - it did survive the use.

CARR

Sure did.

Yes.

But we recommended in our tech debriefing

that things like the urine drawers have shrouds or areas
that are difficult to get in and clean, that they be
filled in say, with foam or something, and then painted
with a slick paint or something so it would be easier.

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�CARR
(CONT'D)

cleaning.

And the squeezer is another example of a place

that's difficult to clean, that is a collector of bacteria
because of your wash water.

Something like that should

be designed in the future to have as few crevices as
possible and be as easy to clean as possible.
QUERY

The ice buildup problem you had on the freezer doors, did
that tend to increase in frequency as the mission progressed,
or did it seem to remain constant?

CARR

I think that the frequency with - we had to clean those
doors was about the same; so I don't think it got any
worse.

But once it got started, it really had an accelera­

tion time, didn't it?

It seemed like it accelerated.

Once you got a little bit of ice around the door that
opened a little crack or something, it really got big
fast.

And we ended up - Between the two doors, there

seemed to be two paths, Just vertical paths between those
two doors, and you'd build a ridge of ice there.

Once

that ridge of ice got developed, the doors very quickly
got hard to operate.

Of course, when you couldn't hardly

open the door, you knew it was time to clean the ice, because
latch frictions were immediately - they'd go up exponen­
tially Just like the ice.

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�POGUE

One thing that aggravated the problem, too, was that
little inner door.

You know, you had the big door, and

then there was a sort of inner door that opened with
straps.

That thing was really an irritation - to work

around that. You couldn't really properly clean it.

The

thing was - looked like it had been designed with some
kind of spec guarantee that there ain't going to be no
frost formed.
QUERY

Let me explain why the front of that door is there.
saw your comments from the tech debriefing.

I

The doors

don't have coils in them, and that little inner door is
the heat sync thing to transfer the heat to the outside
walls to keep from having the heat short through the
door.
POGUE

They ought to be removable.

QUERY

Well, we think - -

CARR

Yes, it was hard to get behind it.

QUERY

If we do it again, I don't think we'll have that door
there.

POGUE

I guess that was really the main thing; Just that and the
fact that we didn't have a proper tool for removing the ice.

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�QUERY

Was there any other mechanical equipment that we haven't
mentioned here today that seemed to become more difficult
to operate or deteriorate in performance?

CARR

Yes, the trash airlock.

QUERY

The trash airlock?

CARR

We never were able to work that as a one-man operation."

Would you comment further?

We had to use the technique that was used by the SL-3
crew, and that was a stomper and an operator.

And we've

got pictures, movies, I think, showing how we had to
operate it.

That was Just to close it.

During the

first part of the mission, we could put three to four and
five full urine bags into the urine disposal bag, put it in
the trash airlock, and it would Just go out clean as a
whistle, Just no problem at all.

And about halfway

through the mission, it suddenly started Jamming; so we
would remove the urine bag, and that would work a little
while.

And then it would start Jamming again.

And about

three-quarters away through the mission, it was useless
%

to try to put any urine bags that had urine in them down down the trash airlock.

It seemed like the urine disposal

bags would Just swell up and Jam against the sides of the
trash airlock.

And when you'd pull on the lever to force

it out, it wouldn't move.

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POGUE

It had so little mechanical advantage anyway.

CARR

Yes, you had very poor mechanical advantage on that
thing.

POGUE

Scissors.

CARR

Scissors thing had pushed it out, it appeared to me.

And

so what we ended up doing was dumping the urine through
the urine dump system into the waste tank, and then
we would take the urine bag and roll it up and put a
piece of tape around it and put it in the bag.

And that

way you could dump a half a dozen of them at one time.
But it was a time-consuming thing to have to manage your
trash that way.
QUERY

Jer, does that mean that from about mission day 60,
approximately, on, you dumped urine in the waste tank?

CARR

Yes.

If you check back in the mission log, you'd probably

find somewhere where we told the ground that from now on
we're going to do that.

I haven't got the slightest idea

why it suddenly started doing that.
to be any rhyme or reason why to it.

There doesn't seem
And we experimented

to the point where we got ourselves in trouble one day.
We decided we would relieve the pressure in the urine bags
by opening the valves.

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We put three uzune bags in a

�CARR
(CONT'D)

urine disposal bag with the valves open and put it in the
trash airlock, opened the door.

It wouldn't go out.

Closed the door, opened the lid again, and the - those
bags had put urine all over the inside of the trash
airlock.
ever saw.

And that was the foulest smelling thing you
From then on, we were never able to adequately

clean it.
QUERY

Even when it was closed?

CARR

No.

Did it - -

Once you closed it, you kept the smell away from you;

but when you opened it to dispose of trash, you had to
endure the smell.
QUERY

Before you burst that bag, did you get any smell when you
cycled the trash airlock?

CARR

There was a faint smell in the trash airlock when we got
there.

It was a faint, urine-type smell.

when we really got the bad smell later.

I recognized it
I recognized that

as being an odor that was inherent in the trash airlock
earlier.
QUERY

Coming from the waste tank?

CARR

Well, I don't know if it was that or whether a previous
crew had had a small urine spill and it got deposited on
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�CARR
(CONT'D)

the TAL and was Just kind of hanging over, because what
we had really hung on and we went in there with - Ed and
I spent time together cleaning it out with biocide wipes,
and then two other occasions, I cleaned it out with
biocide wipes, and we couldn't whip the odor completely.

QUERY

Jerry, was that before you started dumping the raw urine
in?

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

So it wasn't necessary

CARR

That was the clincher when the bags - when the bags spilled
urine all over the inside of the trash airlock, that we
decided, well, we had Just fooled with our last full bag
of urine through the trash airlock and from then on, it
would go out the - -

QUERY

But did you have a period of time when you were still
putting it in bags - What I'm trying to differentiate is
whether it was the smell trapped in the trash airlock or
whether you were getting feedback from the waste tank
itself.

CARR

I don't think we were getting feedback

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�POGUE

No, that happened before we started the regular dumping,
which brings up a point.

Are you people concerned with

dump heaters, probes, that sort of thing?
QUERY

Yes.

POGUE

Have you read the technical debriefing, our comments there?
We think they're underdesigned and wonder if there's any
way that - Seems like we've been bit on these things since
early Apollo - Apollo 7, you know, having trouble - You
know; have to leave them on a long time before you use
them.

You're always afraid you're going to freeze them up

and that kind of thing.

And it's - I - Apparently -

Well, I'm asking a question.

Do you use a low-power heater

because of burnout problems and that sort of thing?

Is

it power or what?
QUERY

Al, could you answer that?

QUERY

The answer is real - really simple, actually.

Well, let's Just - The heater

does not really prevent it - prevent it from fogging while
flowing.

The heater is to unclog it in case freezing

ever did occur inside.

Basically in the testing that

we did, we would not get freezing inside the probe.

We'd

get freezing ..., and the heater would clear it with ...
But the heater is not big enough to keep from freezing - -

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CARR

Then why in the world did the procedures require that we
turn on a heater and keep it on for 15 minutes before we
ever dumped anything through the probe?

That doesn't

make sense.
QUERY

From testing, that cleared the tip from the outside - -

QUERY

When did you ...

QUERY

We got big chunks of ice in the waste management.

QUERY

Could you get to a mike, please, so the gi$rs - -

CARR

I think we are through - -

POGUE

Well, I guess the question is that - since there seems to
be a continual source of procedural problems, discussion
and general backbiting - why can't we - think we could get
u better heater or something like that?

We were Just

talking about a flight - After this problem occurred that
Jerry is talking about, we had a later stoppage - when we
were - when we started our regular dumping.

Boy, that

really scared us, because we knew we had problems with
trash airlock dumping the urine.

And then we had a

freezeup with the urine dump, and boy, we were shaking in
our boots there.

We didn't know what we were going to do.

Just - Well, t h e comments a r e going t o t e l l you . . .
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�A couple of those mechanical things - one is that - what
held the T003 on, that mechanical - that snaps — Just
completely froze up one day, and we had to pry it off.
Both of you know that the - that the
The foot.

The T003 is suspended from its stowage container

Structural - mechanical structure.
mechanical structure, and it's got a foot
Photo mount.

- - . . . photo mount t h a t we used.
Camera mount.

Camera mount, if you will.

And it froze up completely so

you couldn't get it out, and we had to pry th - I had
to take a part of the mount off of the instrument itself.
How it froze up, I'm not sure; it Just flat wouldn't come
out.

The dovetails, also, on one of the TV cameras - The dovetail
mount on the side cut loose.

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�POGUE

And there wasn't any way to tack it

CARR

And that was aggravating because the screws through the
dovetail were screwed in from the inside out, and we were
looking at the end of the screw and watching it over a
period of time back out as the dovetail got looser and
looser.

POGUE

And sometimes you wanted to use that shoe because it was
the only way it would fit with the situation at hand.

GIBSON

The other things we had problems with mechanically were
latches.

CARR

Oh, yes.

GIBSON

Dialatches, but that's another long story.

CARR

That's adequately documented in the tech debriefing.

POGUE

You know - But another thing that they're maybe interested
in was the freezeup on the wardroom window, the ice
collection on the wardroom window.

QUERY

Yes.

We haven't heard about that.

POGUE

Why don't you tell them about it, Jerry.
the - -

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Jerry did all

�CARR

Well, we - when we got there, there was a little patch of
ice in the wardroom window about the size of a dime.

And

then after about a week and a half or 2 weeks, it got to
be about as big as a quarter.

And we knew that the previous

crews had coped with it, but we didn't hear what the
procedures were; and so we talked to the ground, and they
indicated how we should use the vacuum dump line from the
water condensate tank to deac - defrost it.
it in about 6 minutes.

You could do

Well, as soon as you hooked up

the vent line and connected it to the scientific airlock
and opened it for that, you could just see that ice
shrinking down to nothing; and then it was gone in no
time at all.
QUERY

There was no lingering problem then?

CARR

No, but in about 3 weeks it would be back, and we'd just
have to do it about once every 3 weeks.

There was a little

water spot that looks JuBt like a water spot on a glass,
too, that was left behind when the ice sublimed and was
gone.

We had that little dime-size water spot.

But we

don't quite understand how the mositure could get in there,
in that sealed window.

And that vent valve that's right

there next to the window, we kept it tightly sealed, and
we never fiddled with it at all.
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But somehow moisture

�CARR
(CONT'D)

managed to get in there.

And on the days after the shower,

when the humidity was high, was the time when you would
see the little spot starting to come in; so somehow
humidity was able to get through something to get to the
inner panes of that window.
QUERY

Did you have any objectionable noise or notice any noise frequency changes as the mission progressed, from any of
the equipment?

GIBSON

Pumps up in the airlock, the - -

CARR

ATM coolant.

GIBSON

ATM coolant pumps.

That one was - Well, the three of

them - I guess one we didn't use.
had their problems.

Bravo and Charlie both

And I guess there was air in the loop

which caused part of it.
QUERY

But after you cleared that up - -

GIBSON

It would come and go - -

CARR

You got used to it after a while.

GIBSON

You got used to it.

You'd get a high-pitched, whine, and

then you'd get a gurgle.

And then sounded as though -

Heck, what'd we worry about, the bearing?
though.

I forgot the exact noise
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Yes, the bearings,

�ifinilK

Once there was a distinct change in the acoustical
spectrum up there, and then they Just started whining.
And we really got concerned about it.

In fact, we asked

to turn if off in order to be - We figured it would keep
us awake at night.

And I went to all the trouble getting -

breaking out M^87 noise-level meter and frequency analyzer
and took beaucoup readings of the pump on and off and
couldn't notice any difference.

But you sure could tell

it subjectively.

The noisiest single system in the workshop were the rate
gyros - rate gyro six pack that's up there.
next noisiest was the ATM C&amp;D coolant pumps.

And then the
And then

near the end of the mission during the EREP pass, when the
191 cooler started dying on us, it really got noisy.
But, of course, that wasn't something that ran all the
time; it was only during the EREP.

It interfered somewhat

with our communications, and that's about it.

I ^ UERY

That's all - that's all the questions I had.

And back

to that probe, in reference to the questions that you
asked me concerning that.

The best answer I can give

you on the probe - During the initial concept for design,
the name of the game was keep power use down to a minimum.
And it was concluded that the power tnat was allotted to

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�QUERY
(CONT'D)

that probe would be adequate with the procedures as
established.

And that's why it was so low.

I agree with

you; it's my opinion it should have been higher.

QUERY

Okay, other structures and mechanical questions.
questions from Huntsville?

Any

Okay, Charlie, contaminations.

Charlie Davis will lead the session on contamination.
QUERY

The ECS guys ... questions on that ... change in that noise

DAVIS

We've still got several areas we want to cover here, and
David Checks (?) will start off by asking questions on
induced atmosphere.

QUERY

I have a couple of questions on - As you went out to
retrieve stuff from the ATM unit, did you notice any
changes, any - in the frame of light intensity from the
QCMs that were on the HLC and NRL ...?
QCM looked like?

CARR

No.

POGUE

Quartz crystal?

QUERY

Okay, there's a picture right here.

CARR

What is a QCM?
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Do you know what the

�"*)

QUERY

Quartz crystal ... Should give you a continuous thread of
contamination.

POGUE

Here's what it would look like on -

That's - was where you were wanting - at one time talking
about getting - returning one of those.

QUERY

Yes.

Right.

We got a very strange effect.

That is, it

continued to lose mass or give some indication of losing
mass continually.
POGUE

Losing mass?

QUERY

Yes, and we don't know whether it was a change in the
crystalline form of the device itself or whether just
continued.

I guess it should not have continued to outgas

that long.

Did you notice any differences or anything

on the - CARR
QUERY
CARR

Sure didn't.
on or around - That's not an area where we were.

The only time I was

near that thing is when I was taking pictures of the
command module, and I was using it for a handhold then,
trying to wrap my legs around it or some way to hold
myself over there.

But both other - the three other times

I was out at the Sun end, I was nowhere near this; so I
didn't have much opportunity to look at it.
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QUERY

In connect - I have one question in connection with that
water droplet before ... on that wardroom window. Did it You say it stayed the size of a dime whenever the ice would
disappear?

Did that droplet increase in size over each

time it was - -

CARR

You mean the water mark, the water stain?

QUERY

Yes.

CARR

No, it seemed to stay about the size of a dime

GIBSON

It stayed the same.

CARR

It was a pretty old stain, and maybe it'd been there had gotten established maybe back in SL-2 or -3, because
all - Little foggy area or ice crystal would start small
and Just grow, and finally - by the time it got to be
about the size of a half a dollar is when we'd do something
about it.

And once you cleared it up, it always came back

to the same little old stain.

QU^RY

Jerry, was it actually water moisture - moisture that was
left or just a stain?

CARR

Just a stain.

Looked like a watermark on a glass.

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�QUERY

Okay, let's pursue one other question.

You mentioned

the - on the command module windows this contamination that
wrinkled up that was water soluble.
CARR

Yes.

QUERY

Did you notice that as you - did you notice that Just after
you'd come down, or did you notice that there was
something - -

GIBSON

... - No - Well, no - -

QUERY

- - on there prior to that?

GIBSON

We knew it.

OARR

Yes, we knew our windows were coated on orbit.

We could see it on orbit before ...
We could -

Late in the mission, it was apparent to us that we had a
lot less transmissivity through the window than we had
early.

They were obviously contaminated, because with

low light levels - light angles, I should say - Sun angles,
you could see the - POGUE

Streaks - -

CARR

But we also - -

QUERY

So it was not - Then it was not uniform.
have streaks in it?
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It seemed to

�CARR

I always thought it uniform; I would say more concentrated
towards one corner of the window.

POGUE

I had streaks on window number It, I guess it was, but I'm
not sure the streaking was directly associated with that
contaminant coating.

I don't know what it was, but I

know I kept moving the camera around because I had a
streak right across the middle, almost horizontal.
CARR

I got the impression that a line that I had in my window
was much like the line of shadowing that we had in other
places on the workshop.

But my window had a line in it

that was a very, very straight line with two different
intensities of contamination.

I got the impression that

maybe some of the shadowing on my window was protecting a
little bit of it or something; the same sort of shadowing
effect - QUERY

While it was accumulating, it was shadowed?

CARR

- - that I could see other places.

GIBSON

When we got back down, we saw the effect of the water on
it when we were inside the command module.

Once we got

outside and we came back down to look at the conmand
module before they towed it away, I could still see it on
the windows.

Apparently, someone post that time washed

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�GIBSON
(CONT'D)

the command, module down and, you know, made it look shiny

QUERY

That's unfortunate.

QUERY

Jerry, when you have the shadowing effect on your window,

and new again and completely ruined it.

could you tell whether the sunlit part had more buildup
than the other on the ... - CARR

All you could see was a line of demarcation.

It was very

difficult to see which had more or less than the other.
QUERY

While we're on this window - This is window number 1 you're
talking about, I beleive.

CARR

Window number 2.

QUERY

Oh, well, then this was not the window that you had - took
photos of S233 out of, is it?

CARR

Right.

Window number 1 is the one that we took those

pictures out of, and I - that window, as I remember,
was more uniformly coated.

I didn't see this line of

demarcation indicating shadowing.

You had to be careful

looking at something like that for fear that maybe the lines
you're seeing really was nothing more than just a shadow.

23^

�I got - Oh, "by the vay, I want to make a comment on
photography of windows for contamination,

fou need to

have a dark shroud or dark cloth on the inside of the
spacecraft to minimize back inflections on the window.
If you'd look at the pictures that I took of the S230 for
contamination purposes, they're lousy pictures, because
the light came in, hit the structure inside, bounced back
on the inside of the window, reflected in the camera, and
ruined the pictures.

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�POGUE

So if you really want to get good contamination photo­
graphs, you have to make a - If I had had enough sense
and presence of mind in flight, I would have rigged
something up to - to minimize that back reflection.

It

ruined those photographs.
QUERY

Okay.

Thank you.

CARR

I think back reflection had a lot of effect on the

233 photography too, Just from starlight and moonlight
reflecting into the spacecraft from back on the window.
And then you Just essentially made your - made your window
nearly opaque, and especially if you are trying to take
pictures also close to sunrise or sunset.

You'd get

that light on the window, and it would just look like
it was beccming opaque.
QUERY

Okay.

Let me ask one last question.

On EVAs I've no -

I have no - I have read several comments about the white white paints turning yellow or beige or brown.

Was

there any discoloration concerning other paints or, say,
the bare aluminum structures that might have been in place?
Or in touching some of the - GIBSON

Colors seem to be a little washed out.

If you take a

look at the flag, we've got seme good pictures which I

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�GIBSON

think show the American flag painted on the MDA.

Colors

there appear to be very washed out, as well as the white
turning yellow.

The red and blue Just seem to lose a lot

also.

QUERY

And how about any bare metal surfaces whenever you
were around them?

Did you ever notice any smudging or,

you know, a layer of contaminant on there that would be

CARR

That's what I'm racking my brain on.

POGUE

You know, there - that's - that's a point.

CARR

Seems to me that - the aluminum took on a sort of yellow
cast.

GIBSON

It was not shiny aluminum, but I'm trying to figure out
how - in what way it was degraded.

It Just appeared

to lose its luster.

POGUE

You remember, Ed, when you put the clamps on for the
S020 - -

GIBSON

Oh, yes.

POGUE

- - and T025-

How you scuffed -

GIBSON

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�POOUE

It was really ... scuff marks.

GIBSON

you could really see it.

QUERY

Okay, so - -

POGIIE

Scraped away the top surface, you could see bright much brighter metal underneath.

Now this is on the

ATM

trusses, big structural ...
CARR

Yes.

QUERY

Okay, thank you.

QUERY

I had just one question on the

ATM

experiments themselves

On the S052 TV quite often we would see particles on the
downlink TV.

By and large they were Just a very few

number of particles.

But by chance, did any of the crew

happen to look out the window during any of the

S052 TV

activity and ... those particles?
GIBSON

No, we - we were asked that question the other day, and
we could - most of the time when you looked out the window
you could hardly see any particles at all.

QUERY

Oh, but you did see particles?

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�GIBSON

When you were looking out the wardroom window, you'd
occasionally see one or two particles go by.

And you

might see it especially as a reflection in the sunlight
when you're up close to the terminator.

CARR

we had two blizzards that we saw out the wardrocm window,
Just absolute flurry, and it was near the terminator
both times.

And it was Just - huge flurries of snow

particles or bright particles.
QUERY

One of those, I recall that we could not identify it.
I think the answer given - the only thing that happened
was that there had been a mol sieve cycle change Just a
minute or two before.
sense.

But that - that really didn't make

But now, the other one I don't recall what that

blizzard was.
CARR

One was rather early in the mission, and the other one
was about two-thirds of the way through the mission.
I think the second one is the one that you folks said
that there had recently, Just very shortly before that,
been a mol sieve cycle change.

But that's the only time

we ever saw any huge blizzards of — of this stuff.

It

looked kind of like snow, and it was very, very beautiful.

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�QUERY

You don't have any idea of what that other snowstorm was
from?

CARR

Haven't the slightest idea.

POGUE

Well, a question that - that one might ask:

you know in

the trash - in the ops - locks tank down there in the
trash airlock area - the trash area, if - if I remember
correctly you had screen - big screens over the actual
openings to the outside.

Now, during your testing I

assume that those things, if they froze over as they
were supposed to freeze over and then subline out or some­
thing, I forget which, did you ever get any dump
modes established when you were testing that, I wonder?
QUERY

Yes, we did have liquids go into the waste tank C.
But now, during the ground test we always stayed below
the triple-point pressure.

Now, during the mission

there potentially is over three cases there, dumping
free liquids into the waste tank.

You may have dumped

at such a rate - such a mass that you did just bump the
triple-point pressure in the waste tank.

And if that

were the case, you could have iced up those screens and
then sublimed off the screen or else clogged them up and
blown them off.

2k0

�Could the screens do any sort of a - of a - oil can
or something that might just pop them and cause a million
little ice crystals to start off?
I wouldn't exclude that, but it's not that.

I would

think the next time you dump seme material in that you
certainly could have ...
Yes, except that both times we saw these blizzards we
were not doing a trash dump of any kind, because that's
the first thing the ground asked us when we said we had
seen it, did you guys just dump something down the trash
airlock, and we said no.

And then the next question was,

well how about the SAL, and the answer was no to that.
So then they researched and found on - on one case that
the mol sieve had Just done something.
Look, I have a couple of questions now in the area of
experiments optics, and it's Just basically did you
observe any deposition on the handheld optics, for in­
stance, the S019 articulated mirror?

If you did, could

you describe what these deposits looked like?
No, we did not.

Bill indicated some - -

2hl

�POGUE

Yes, on the - right near the end when I was doing an
S063 when you could actually look through the window you - you had a window mounted in the - I would say T025
adapter, was it?

CARR

Yes.

POGUE

I saw what appeared to be a very fine dustlike layer
on the AMS mirror.

Now this was, again, you had to

have the Sun - the light Just right before you could
see it because turning it a little bit further you
could - you could see the discone antenna, and that was
Just as - Just crystal clear, you know.

So like I - I -

I wasn't sure what I was seeing - almost a frosted ap­
pearance.

That was near the end; I don't know when it

started, and I'm not even sure what I saw was entirely
valid.
QUERY

But other than that?

POGUE

Other than that, no.

It always looked - when we - any

time that we took the AMS - a couple of times we ro moved it out to make sure that we had it cocked right or
Just to check it.

It looked very good, very good condition

2h2

�SPEAKER

How about any of the windows associated with the SAL,
the antisolar SAL, did you have any deposits on those
surfaces?

CARR

No . . .

QUERY

Well, from that then I assume that you didn't do any
cleaning on orbit of any of the optical surfaces.

POGUE

Just the EREP.

CARR

The EREP S190 window, Eill did a cleaning Job on that.
But, of course, that was Just the inside where we were.

POGUE

We cleaned off the 190 window - interior of the 190 win­
dow once using the optics cleaning kit.

Once I

brought down seme of the tissues and cleaned off the
inside of the wardroom window and that was i t .

QUERY

So that's all of the window cleaning that you did.

POGUE

That was Just about i t .

QUERY

Okay.

CARR

But we found that to properly clean the Nikon with the
300-millimeter lens, you had to put your hand on the
window and hold the lens up against the window and then

2k3

�CARR
(CONT'D)

track with the camera in order to get your image motion
compensation.

And so it dirtied the windows, and we

found ourselves having to clean them, wipe them off on
occasion.

And that was - the wardroom window was - that

had to be done too and also the STS windows on occasion,
the command module window; that was finger smudges.
POGUE

And mainly on the wardroom window, too, was the window
protector that we were doing this to not the optic, not
the wardroom window itself.

QUERY

But most of these smudges you had to clean were from nose
prints or finger prints.

CARR

Correct.

QUERY

I did have several questions on thermal control systems,
but I think they have been beaten into the ground.
I do have one.

But

Going back over previous debriefings, the

two previous crew debriefings, one of the questions we
had asked on ATM sunshield discoloration was the first
crew response that it was clean, that the sunshield of
the ATM was still white.

But SL-2 crew, we picked up

from them that it was beginning to discolor.

Shadow

effects were still light and door motion areas were a
little bit dimmer, and then that exposed to sunlight was

2kh

�QUERY

even darker.

But then you all have come in, and then

(CONT'D)
it's much darker.

So, what I would like to ask is do

you recall any difference in discoloration on these white
surfaces between your first EVA and the last EVA.
CARR

I didn't.

GIBSON

The problem is - Yes, I was out there on the first EVA
and then Jerry was out there on the last, so you have
different observers.

One thing I did notice at the

first EVA I was out there, you could very clearly see the
rib structure underneath which was supporting the front
face.

It looked like from squares - a square rib struc­

ture which is maybe 3, k inches or so in square size
or linear dimension across it.

And I forget whether

that was darker or lighter now, but I made some - a big
verbal description of it at the time of the EVA.

If

you are interested in that effect, it's in the transcripts
during the first EVA.
CARR

And what was interesting was that when we first saw the
workshop up there and started moving in on it, the starkness of the white, the gold, and the black.

It was just

very stark, and the white looked very pure white.

And

then I remember thinking how curious it was after we got

2U5

�CARR
(CONT'D)

in real close, nearly docked, and when we were docked
that all the places that had looked white vrere now
beige, or very light beige.

And it's the same sort of

effect as that 16—millimeter film that was taken — that
we took on the EVA.

That Just makes everything look

spanking clean white.

And I deliberately panned slowly

across the sun end of the ATM to show all the shadowing
effect and all the tan.

And damned if none of it came out.

It was Just pure white; looks Just white as can be.
GIBSON

I hope the Nikons show it better.

CARR

I do too.

POGUE

I hope so too.

QUERY

But you did then take scrae photographs Ju3t to show
discoloration.

CARR

Yes, and unfortunately the l6-millimeter stuff was
apparently overexposed.

And in the processing they - the

developing Just - they - it was probably developed normally
an overexposed picture developed normally which ends up
with beige looking white.

And all the contrast, the

shadowing, was gone, Just gone white.

2k6

�QUERY

All of the surface colors that you all have a comment
on, were those only on the solar side of the vehicle?
During EVA did you get in such a position that you
could see the antisolar side of the - -

CARR

Well, the other side of the panels look pretty white
to me.

I didn't get the impression that that was as

beige.
POGUE

It wasn't, but it was turning.

I photographed the

underside of SAS panels when we came in for docking,
and I think I got - I'm not sure I got pictures ccming
out or not, when we undocked.

But, if you'll look at

those, I think you'll see that it's well, I don't know
if you can tell or not.
CARR

You don't mean the SAS panel; you mean ATM solar panels.

POGUE

I mean ATM solar panels.

And they were not pure white.

They had starucn^to change.
GIBSON

But in around the FAS area, which was not exposed to
Sun except for scattered sunlight whatever small amount
there may be there, that had changed color.

QUERY

What was this, how that had changed color?

2U7

�GIBSON

In the FAS, the fixed airlock shroud workstation,
where you had the part we - the pieces we brought
back, as a matter of fact, that you clipped out.

Part

of that was a very dark beige and an abrupt transition
to a light beige.

The light beige is the part that was

out of the Sun, and the dark was the part that was in.
And the part that was out of the Sun which was light,
that whole area was pretty much of a uniform light
beige.

I did not see any shadowing effects there as

though you had reflected sunlight from a given direction.
It was pretty much uniform.

To me, that, plus looking

at the windows in command module, implied we had semething coating, some atmosphere around there which slowly
condensed out on the vehicle.

Whether that was really

the source of that light beige, I can't be sure.

But

I'm sure, looking at the material itself and analyzing i t ,
you can tell that.
QUERY

Okay.

QUERY

Is this - what was washed off the command module window,
this material, did it wash off in flakes, or was it quite
even as the water would hit it?
the contour ...

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I mean, it was part of

�GIBSON

No, it tended to shrink up, in the same way, as Jerry
says, the top of a custard pudding when it cools, shrinks
up.

QUERY

Okay.

When it got wet, it would shrink up when exposed

to water.
GIBSON

It would shrink up, and you would see little bits of it
around the corners, especially.

And even after we got -

as I said, after we were on the ship and the spacecraft
I
was on the ship for 10 hours or so, we went out and
looked at it, and it was still there on the windows.
And I thought, well, here these guys have got seme beautiful
samples.

I'm surprised that the system didn't make -

take special pains to get sill that.
CARR

I guess we should have made a bigger thing of it while
we were in the command module and mentioned the fact
that these things were there.

QUERY

I think that that's all the prepared questions we had.
Do you have another one ...?

QUERY

Yes, I have one.
atmosphere.

I have another one.

It's on induced

It's not particularly with contamination

but with the meteoroid environment.

Did you notice any -

I know you talked about wrapping up the meteoroid shield

2h9

�QUERY
(CONT'D)

and bring that back - did you notice on any of the EVAs
like up on the ATM, any impact areas that were not asso­
ciated with an engine or some kind of firing where paint
might flake away?

CARR

Sure didn't.

QUERY

None at all?

CARR

It looked very good up there.

QUERY

Okay.

CARR

Of course, all the windows - they asked us a question
up there one time, if the wardroom window, or any of the
windows we look out, had any pits or anything in them
indicating micrometeoroid impacts, and they were just as
clean as a whistle.

QUERY

. . . you had a few questions you were going t o ask.

QUERY

Most of them were answered, but did you use all the
Coolanol that you took up?

CARR
QUERY

no.
How much did you use?

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�POGUE

Golly, I don't really know.

CARR

Well, didn't they say it was a 3-quart capacity or sanething like that, and we had 9 quarts on board or something?
We serviced it once, whatever that is.

POGUE

Yes.

QUERY

...

POGUE

No.

CARR

Not to my knowledge.

Did you ever have any occasion that it leaked again?

QUERY

CARR

No.

And the ground, of course, has a better handle on

that, and the guy, the atmospheric volatiles concentrate
guy said that they had some hydrocarbons in there that
indicated that it might have to do with Coclanol.
QUERY

I think George Hobson and his people could probably
answer those questions a little better - -

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

- from the data.

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�POGUE

You ought to also ask him about the secondary coolant
loop, too, because apparently about the time we undocked,
we lost the secondary coolant loop.

QUERY

When we started getting the warning light.

QUERY

I think this does us.

QUERY

Charlie, are we clearing now on this - I'm concerned
about this film.

It showed up on the command module

window ... we are going to find out about that.

QUERY

Are we clear if this was seen on any of the other
windows, the same kind of degradation?

POGUE

Yes, it was on number b .

QIJKRY

How about ... the workshop ...?

Was it peculiar only

to the command module?

POGUE

Who knows?

CARR

Oh, yes.

Yes, I - in fact when they asked me about the

pitting on the wardroom window, I said no, there was no
pitting, but there was definitely what looked like water
marks and stains on the wardrocm window.

QUERY

Well, that was ... surface, you mean.

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CARR

... on the external surface, and it was more- streaky
looking.

query

Now, we - I think this was picked up on the first crew.
And I think at the time it would have caught me by surprise.
You know we did lose the meteoroid shield.

QUERY

As Jer was commenting - the reason I asked, you canniented
earlier that you could - toward the end of the mission
you started seeing degradation on the command module
windows.

CARR
^

I just wondered if you noticed this ...

It was certainly more noticeable on the wardroom window.
Now, the STS window, I didn't notice it, uor did I notice
it on the 190 window, but of course the 190 window had
a cover on, and we didn't open that cover very often.

QUERY

STS windows did, too, so I think ... there; wherean the
wardroom window had been exposed for the whole mission.

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

Your command module window for 8H days.

QUERY

Did you keep the STS window covers on mostly or - -

CARR

Most of the time, yes.

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GIBSON

Most of the time - the outside.

CARR

That's a mechanical thing for the mechanical folks,
and that's those windows on the - the covers on the STS
windows were a great pain in the neck, because they were
so hard to open.

You had so little mechanical advantage

on the crank you had to turn, and there were so many
things close to that - the crank throw that you were
just asking for broken fingers.

We were always banging

our knuckles up trying to open and close those doggone
STS windows.
POGUE

One of them in particular you could actually guillotine
a finger to death.

CARR

There was lots of profanity used on those windows,

QUERY

Go ahead.

QUERY

That .. .

QUERY

Any other ...?

QUERY

Just one ...

QUERY

One more question?

Is that it Charlie?

Okay.

25^

�QUERY

When there were shadows on the bottom of the ATM
sunshield, of course, the Sun couldn't have caused it.
•»

Evidently there was an obstruction in the way.

Did you -

any of you notice any of those, and if so, what was the
possible source?
QUERY

It looked like they were in the way of some emission that
was coming towards that surface, and the structure shadowed
it rather than the Sun as in so many other cases.

GIBSON

I'm not sure what you're referring to.

QUERY

On the underside of the supports of the ATM sunshield,
the supports had a shadow on the bottom side of the sun­
shield, and we were kind of wondering just about what
angle the emission would have had to come frcm to create
that shadow.

CARR

Evidently you didn't notice though.

Yes, we noticed that.

In face, I think we mentioned it

on the EVA that it seemed kind of peculiar that you even
had the shadowing effect around on the Earth side of the
sunshield.

That's a mystery to me.

QUERY

That would sound like outgasing protection.

QUERY

But it seems to be caning from a def - very definite direc­
tion, and that's what we were interested in, Just where
it might have come from if you find that out.

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�QUERY

Okay.

GIBSON

Are people going to run a chemical analysis of those
materials which we brought back Just to see what is
deposited?

QUERY

I'm reasonably sure that material is still ...

QUERY

They're doing ...

I checked on that to see if I could

tell anything about it before I came down, and, no, they
are doing that and they are - they Just don't have anything
yet to - GIBSON

Okay.

QUERY

- - pass on, but - -

QUERY

. . . got a couple of questions before we break up t h i s
afternoon.

Now one of the - and they're general questions;

they don't fit well in any subsystem - one of the head­
quarters offices that funds Kennedy, Marshall, and our­
selves for advanced technology, advanced development,
always asks after the end of the mission, what did we what did we - what went wrong that we ought to fix way
downstream type of thing, or takes a long lead time to
get after type of thing.

And to put that in context, the

office that did the asking has finished and has been

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�QUERY
(CONT'D)

finished for a year and a half now of funding advanced
development for Shuttle, so they're about the only
group in the world that's finished working on the space
shuttle so to speak, and so what are the things about
the mission that may require long-term effort to solve
at a hardware development stage or technology stage, or
stay out of technology.

You know, what are the half

a dozen things that might fit that category that bugged
you most about the mission.
GIBSON

The things that we - as we Just get a real cursory look
at Shuttle, it's not that the technology doesn't exist;
they are Just flat not going to use it.

Waste disposal

system in Shuttle has taken a step backwards into using
the Apollo rather than the Skylab.
I guess, are that way.
CARR

Some of the foods,

Gee, camera equipment - -

Camera equipment is a big one.

Requiring a U-year lead

time to get cameras for Shuttle, I think is appalling why
we have to have that kind of lead time.
POGUE

The general overall de-emphasis of the - probably the best
capability of man in that we - looks like we are going
out of our way to deprive the human observer onboard
from having a good facility for looking at the Earth or
for even looking at the exterior of his vehicle.

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We've

�POGUE
(CONT'D)

been continually bit by this inability to see the outside
of our vehicle and having a good, well designed, pur­
posefully designed Earth observatory for use both in
the daylit side of the Earth, and on the nightside
of the Earth, the capability to look, regardless of
spacecraft attitude at the daylit side of the Earth or
the nightside of the Earth.

I can see that this is -

we're going to go into the 21st century in space flight
before we have that capability.

It just seems like that

we have established that man can do all sort3 of neat
things if he has the right kind of observing capability,
but we just - somehow or another, we want to handicap
ourselves, and we're deliberately going out of our way
to emasculate the man's ability in space.
CARR

I think it's very, very disturbing to see some of the
trends that are headed - we're headed for with Shuttle;
as Ed said, they are steps backwards.

Waste management:

if you're going back to sticking a bag on your backside
to collect fecal matter, if you don't - that's a step
backwards, I'll guarantee you compared to what we had up
on Skylab.

And the fact that they are going back to a

lot of the Apollo-type foods and foods packaging is also
a step backwards after the things we've learned.

And it

�CARR
(CONT'D)

looks to me - and quite frankly it looks to me like
we're selling our soul in order to get a vehicle, and
that's a very poor situation.

I can understand, because

it is probably a matter of survival of the program, of
the NASA - the programs that we have going.

We have

to sell our soul because of economic necessity.

But it

sure doesn't make you feel any better to see us go out and
learn something and then have to Just put it aside and
forget it and step backward in systems.
it's Just pitiful.

It's really -

And it Just bothers the hell out of

me to see us in a position where somebody says, "Well,
by June of this year we have to have completely esta­
blished our - all of our photographic equipnent and
get all of our - everything's cast in concrete."

And I

Just can't understand that because, good camera equipment
is available down at the camera store.

And it - I don't

see where you need a U-year lead time on camera equipment.
It Just doesn't make sense.

And - well we're sermonizing

now, but - -

POGUE

That's what he's asking for though.

CARR

That's what you're looking for, as far as I know.

We're

going to have to rear up on our hind legs and say what
we need and do the Job right and quit going about it in
a half-assed manner.

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�POGUE

Well, one of the things about it, too, and it is a
basic point of philosophy involved here, and I don't
want anyone here to take offense, but I don't think
spacecraft should be designed solely by engineers.

I

think that the operator should be in and should deter­
mine and levy requirements on system design.

In other

words, what - I'm actually saying that if you are con­
sidering a fluid loop then the man that is going to
operate that and the procedures man that's going to
design the malfunction procedures for that should have
a say in where check valves are located, and not just
where it's convenient to put them in there because
there is a tiedown, a hardpoint, here for mounting
the thing.

That's what has been dictating in so many

cases the - the layout of our systems.

And that is why

the command module - the LEB down there below the com­
mander - actually on the left hand side - that is a big
rat nest.

Let's not let that go by.

Now we're - we're

very grateful that Rockwell can put out a spacecraft
that can last 81* days.

We don't want any - we don't want

anyone to go away mad, thinking that we're not grateful.
But to you - you're asking for a long-term look ahead.
And we're going to have to face up to the time when
the people who are actually going to be flying this

260

�POGUE
(CONT'D)

vehicle and operating it, or at least their - their
representatives are going to have a good strong say
in how a - how the thing is actually laid out, how
the wire runs are laid out and so forth, not Just the
structural considerations.

Because if you start looking

ahead at a Mars flight, the spacecraft now becomes your
simulator.

Now when - when - when that happens, you're

going to have onboard maintenance capability, and you're
going to have to have that thing laid out so that my
kid can go in and fix i"G, you know.

It's going to have

to be very intelligently designed, not Just from a
functional standpoint in that - in that it meets
engineering requirements, but frcm maintenance and repair.
We keep saying, yeah, that's real neat, if we had the
money we could do it; but darn it, we - at one time or
another we're going to have to bite the bullet and
actually design a spacecraft that way.
And following up from Jerry's point of view on the
cameras, one of the things too that keeps biting us is
that we - we've continually fought the problem and said,
well, we - we would like to have lots of color exterior
film onboard.
pictures.

Why do you want it?

We like to take

Why do you want to take the pictures?

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Well, we

�POGUE
(CONT'D)

Just feel like that, you know if you look out and
see something interesting, you ought to take a picture
of it.

Well, you don't have any Justification.

know, you end up - so you end up short of film.

You
But then

we come back and we talk to - Just last night and, well,
and there are meeting goings [sic] on right - right now
amongst people who are very excited about Earth observations,
which is - which - which is - largely not even a conceived
program a couple of years ago, I guess.

So once again

there, you - you have these capabilities that do exist.
I mean, it's very difficult sometimes to - to substantiate
a claim that we do need a lot of film on board for
Just sort of out-the-window photography.

It turns out all

that is pretty good and useful.
WWEKY

Let me ask you another kind of generic problem with
respect, to the over - overhead and housekeeping
percentages as a percentage or overall time, with the
reason for asking the question being aimed at the degree
of training that has to go to experimenters that would
fly in - in a spacelab type of thing.

With respect to

your own training background and - and there being undoubt­
edly orders of magnitude - the difference between the the training that - that - that a experimenter would
262

,/

�QUERY
(CONT'D)

get to be launched in a - in spacelab and the training
that you fellows got.

GIBSON

Well - -

QUERY

In overhead time.

GIBSON

In overhead time - -

CARR

- - ... this one.

GIBSON

Overhead associated with housekeeping?

QUERY

Stowage, yeah, housekeeping, stowage.

GIBSON

Yes.

I think it ought to be in order of magnitude

different.

We all found that we'd become much better

if we could specialize in any given field up there.
When we tried to became a jack of all trades, we ended
up just literally a master of none, and chasing ourselves
around not learning to become proficient rapidly.

That

was one of the problems we had quite early in the mission,
or that really went on for the first month or so, is we
were going in so darned many different directions trying
to learn tasks we had not even been trained for

that

we couldn't do the ones which really required competence
and a lot of capability.

We could not really train

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GIBSON
(CONT'D)

ourselves on orbit except over a very long period
of time, operating the ATM or EREP or doing some of
the medical experiments for them.

CARR

Yeah, we have to learn how to ferret out items or
tasks that - that have potential large or high overheads
involved with them.

We've already pointed out one very

high overhead thing, and that is whatever you don't
train a guy for down here, you better be prepared to
pay the price on orbit because the overhead is going to
be excessive.
now.

And I think that is a true axicm right

That if you - if you don't train me to do a given

Job down here or if it's impossible to train me to do
a Job, then you better figure about 200 percent
or more time available on orbit for overhead while I
learn how to cope with it in a zero-g situation.
POGUE

Regardless how simple it looks.

QUERY

It there - is there a statement there or ... that says,
in a - in a case where you are launching X number of of experiments, specialist type of thing in a spacelab,
let's say, that you're going - you're going to need
other people Just for housekeeping type of thing?

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CARR

Either that or design your housekeeping for minimum
overhead.

Another good one here is - is the fecal

collection thing on our - our mission.

The fecal col­

lector equipment itself is very good equipment and it's
a great step forward, a ... jump over Apollo and - and
systems previous to that.

But the fact of the matter is,

in order - to - to - take a crap, it's a 20-minute affair:
5 minutes are involved in the physiological function and
the other 15 is the paperwork and the processing that
goes afterwards.

And that's overhead.

When you've got a

3 to 1 overhead margin on a simple thing like going to the
bathroom, you've got to start thinking ways to get around
it because that time is too valuable to spend cleaning
yourself up and weighing and marking labels and pulling
stickyback tape off of the bag and sealing the bag and and putting it into an oven and setting a timer on an
oven and all that stuff, and of all the sudden you've
shot 20 minutes.

And some days it was difficult to

find 20 minutes available.

And when Mother Nature is

clawing at you, and you know it's going to take you
20 minutes, you know, you - you either get constipated
or you say, I'm going, to hell with the schedule; and
then you're further behind by the time you've cleared
out of the head again.
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And there ain't no way anybody

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(CONT'D)

is going to schedule personal hygiene for you.

When

you got to go, you got to go; and it doesn't matter
what's on the schedule.
eat you alive.

And that overhead will just

Overhead time on food preparation has

got to be reduced.

POOUE

Trash management following food.

CARR

Trash management overhead has got to be reduced.

And

these are things that it doesn't take an engineer to
sort out.

It just takes people that - that will get

in and mess around with the nitty gritty of it and do •
it a few times and say, now how is a better way to do this?
And you don't have to be an engineer to do that.

And

that's where you say that you need people other than
engineers on the team working with you, people with
that rare talent to rear back and look at the big picture
without getting all caught up in the details.

QUERY

What was the picture in trash management?

POGUE

In trash, depends on what you mean, but after food
preparation you had a lot of bulk to dispose of.
if there was - It involved two stages :

Even

temporary manage­

ment of the stuff right after the meal, and then periodic
disposal of the bulk in the trash airlock.

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What would make it simpler?

POOUE

Well - -

CARR

The can crusher, for instance.

If you had a meal that

involved six cans, maybe two of the cans were wet cans;
that is, food that was not in a - in a packaging in the
can, which meant that you couldn't crush that can or you
would squirt garbage all over the place.

So those two

cans had to be put in the overcans in the disposal well.
Any dry cans that you had, because of our need to - to
conserve trash bags and stuff, we had to crush in order
to make - make room.

And so you find yourself spending

a lot of time just managing your trash, making sure that
this gets in its right place and that gets in its right
place.
QUERY

Have you ever tried the bean count, Jerry, or - or,
Bill, Ed?

What - what the overhead in your mission

was timewise, the percentage of the whole.

If you broke

the whole mission down into sleep time, overhead time,
and useful work time type of thing; what that split might
be?

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No, we haven't.

It would depend quite a bit on the -

the phase of the mission too, the time.

During what

we call the period of adjustment, that period where you
are physiologically getting used to your surroundings,
the overhead time is tremendous.

Once you become ac­

climated to your - to your environment and you are in
a situation where you're up with or ahead of the
schedule, the overhead time is greatly reduced.

In our

particular case, there was a period of time between
when we got physiologically adapted and when we caught
up with the schedule, and that was an extra 20 or so days
in which we were always behind schedule.

And then you get

into the haste-makes-waste overhead where you make so
many mistakes that you - you greatly increase your
overhead just because you're - you're hurrying so fast
and your making errors and causing - that causes extra
work that has to be handled.
QUERY

Let - let - let me pursue that Just for a minute if - if I
can, and I'm not a crew systems type so excuse the sim­
plicity of the question.

But with respect to your adapta­

tion to - to flight after you get that type of thing, in
recognizing the fact that many of the ... missions are
going to have to be done on Shuttle in 7-days type of thing,

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�how does - how does the - how do you - how do you dove­
tail the amount of that 7 days that it takes to acclimate
yourself?

I think that's what we were talking about earlier in
that you specialize.

If any one of us had to go up and

run one task, we would have adapted much easier.

If Jerry

and Bill were going to run strictly EREP as soon as they
got up there, they could have - after the first pass,
I think, been pretty good at i t , fairly proficient.

If

I were to run ATM after I first got up there, nothing
else, and not tried to become a master of everything that
was up there, spread myself very thin and try to learn
50 new tasks all in the first week, I think we all would
have done much better.

So for a 7-day mission, i t makes
1

sense, if you approach it from the standpoint of having
the guys very specialized, trained for those specific
tasks only and only require them to do those specific
tasks.
Yes, a real time-consumer is developing the techniques
of - of coordinating a mixed bag of tasks.

And if you

reduce the number of tasks in the bag that the guy has
got to cope with, he is going to get efficient a whole
lot quicker.

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And you will reduce the overhead, too.

CARR

Yes.

And so that's why we think in the Shuttle case

where you got a guy that's going to go up there and he
is only really required to do one main Job and he might
have just a couple of collaterals that are fairly simple,
he'll probably accommodate a whole lot quicker as far as
his personal efficiency.

But what he's got to get over

first is his physiological problems.

The fact that his

gut doesn't feel good and he's a little bit dizzy
maybe, or maybe he's Just got a headache across here
because of the fluid shift that's just driving him out
of his gourd.

And a guy who does not have the experience

or the - the access to experienced people that we've had,
this - his personal well-being is certainly going to be
I

very - foremost in his mind for a while.
GIBSON

One thing that the Shuttle faces as a major disadvantage
which everybody ought to recognize is that in 7 days,
the best you are going to be able to do is to try to guess
what the guy should be doing every minute of those days and
flight plan it that way.

And you are going to specify

in detail what's going to happen every - every one of
those 7 days.

When you get up there and along around

the 5th or 6th day these guys are going to say, gee, you

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�know we ought to be running these experiments in the
following way; we could get our data a little bit better.
We found this true as we went on.

All the way through

the mission we found that we could learn how to improve
things and really make significant advances that way.
I think in 7 days you're going to see very little of
that.

You are going to see very little growth in the

abilities of guys to improve the way in which you get
data.
Learning curve's got a shallow slope.
Jerry, we're about to run over.

Do you guys need to do

that?
Pardon?
Learning curve has got a shallow slope in that case.
Yes, 7 days just won't do it for you, and the problem
that it's going to force you - that's going to keep you
from doing it is that if it's only 7 days long, everybody
is going to want something done that would add up to
8 or 9 days.

And you're going to be trying to pack that

mission so full the guy's not going to have a chance to
think.

And that's what you need, a little time to sit

back and ... - -

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�POGUE

He's going to screw up the first couple of days, and
then he is going to try to do 9 days' work in 5 days.

GIBSON

1 think this 7 days is Just a lousy way to use man in
flight.

You really ought to get him up there for a good

period of time where he's got a - he can learn and
the whole system can learn with him and not try to
overspecify what he does.

That's one of the problems

that NASA has in general is to try to overspecify what
happens.

We found this true.

Guys were sending up flight

plans that just had way too much detail in them.
QUERY

Thank you.

QUERY

Okay, thank you very much.

GIBSON

Okeydoke.
o

QUERY

I'm sorry we ran over a little bit.

QUERY

And we'll see you guys in the morning at nine, huh?

GIBSON

Fine.

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Morning Session
QUERY

Jerry, this morning we were going to check the thermal/
environmental control systems, electrical power, attitude
pointing control and then get into the crew systems.

Ed

tells me he's only going to be here for a few minutes
and ... the APCS.

And that's a very short one anyway;

so I think we'll take it first if - CARR

Okay, very fine.

QUERY

if that's all right with you.

And Chris Rupp [?] is

here from Marshall to represent that, and I think we
only have one or two questions.

So, Chris, why don't

you go ahead.
RUPP

Yes.

When the CMG went out, this made the APS - APCS

a lot more sensitive to problems like gimbal stops - on
the CMGs hitting to gimbal stops during maneuvers.

And

in an attempt to try to give you of the crew the - sane
cues as to how to monitor the APCS system, we came up with
general message that you can use.

And we tried to figure

out how to word the general message where it would be
suitable in Just about all the cases we could think of.
And so what we came up with was, you could monitor the

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�RUPP
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the maneuver rates and also the - I think we put in
there at one time, too, the capability for you to call
up on the DAS to display an attitude-error parameter.
I wonder whether you people might have some comments that
would allow us to in the future maybe come up with a better
scheme in monitoring the vehicle performance?

GIBSON

Yes, I thought that that - what was worked up, considering
how long you had to do it and that we never really had
thought that serious about two CMGs - we thought about
it but never really pressed our nose into saying, well,
here it is right now - I thought that all came off real
well, and I was very - very happy with all of the schemes
that came up.

The details - Well, first, I guess that's

TACS attitude error you were talking about that is called
up.

We found that it took an awful lot of crew time to

monitor these things during a maneuver.

And in the

future, if we do come up with a system which is so
sensitive that you ought to be monitoring those parameters,
then we ought to do it like all of the other caution and
warning parameters and have a tolerance which is allowed allowed.

And if it exceeds that tolerance, then you get

a - an alert or a caution.

Particular, attitude error,

if you're stable, or vehicle rates.

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Maybe there's a way

�GIBSON
(CONT'D)

of sensing what the vehicle - specifying what the
vehicle rates should be for a given maneuver; and when
it deviates appreciably from that, whatever you consider
is off nominal, put a - an alert condition.

In terms of

monitoring the - the gimbals, there's another one especially when we're monitoring for - for solar inertial
and you're working the ATM.

There were several occasions,

you know, where we got a momentum configuration which would
put the gimbals on a stop and we'd deviate from solar
inertial.

And there again, it would be useful to have

some way of predicting that ahead of time or at least
giving you an early indication of it.

I think we just

lucked out on the one instances where we - one instance
where we did get a flare on the rise, because right pre­
ceding that, we had gone off attitude and had put in a
3-minute maneuver time and cctne back.

Had we known about

that before the orbit began, we would have cleared that
problem up before the - right at the outset of the orbit.
So there, again, in caution - in alert condition we
would like to see something which would specify the
probability of getting a gimbal on a stop - if that really
is a possible situation - or at least tell you that
you're within 5 degrees of a stop, if you can't predict
that well - can't put a scheme on board to predict it
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GIBSON
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because, I guess, it was pretty complicated down here
to predict it.

Your - your model down here was

very sensitive, I guess, to all the venting and all
other things that we've used in spacecraft all the time caution and warning conditions and trying to get - get
those parameters down so they tell you early enough that
you've got a problem.

In future systems, I'd like to

see something like what we've talked about for a long
time back in the old days, when we were flying this
thing in late 68 and we didn't have enough time to
change things around.

That was in 66.

We talked about

magnetic desaturation, using the Earth's field, and
/

react that against magnetic moment, which you could create
on board by putting current through large loops of wire,
which I guess is done on quite a few other spacecraft.
But the need for that never became apparent.

It certainly

was during our mission and - and all throughout the
whole Skylab, because the use of TACS just was a - a really prohibitive.

We were, as you know, really con­

cerned about it in the first mission, SL-1, before they
even got the guys up there and we had the EGIL special
attitude - which really burned the TACS up - and in
pointing out that - the real problems that you run into
by trying to come up with a - a limited lifetime system

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like the TACS, as opposed to something which is open
ended like this magnetic desaturation would be.

Also,

we spent an awful lot of nightsides doing gravity gradient
dumps from high beta when we could have been getting good
solar data or good data with the scientific airlock.

It

was holding a fixed attitude and — and getting seme of
the other experiments working, I think, that's severely
limited the amount of data we will be able to bring
back with all the corollary experiments and the ATM.
CARR

Oh, even at low beta.

It really didn't matter about the

beta.
GIBSON

Well, for the - -

CARR

Just the fact that we had such a long dump angle.

GIBSON

Yes, I was thinking high beta for the ATM and all betas
for the other astronomy experiments or even Bill Thornton's
chair, BMMD.

We couldn't do anything with the - with a

maneuver in, and again, that would disappear if we had
magnetic desaturation; so I would really make it strong
pitch for that in the future.

But, again, it worked real

well, and I was really happy with the way that - that all
information came up.

We all learned along with you.

The

cards changed about - We had a cue card up there with -

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We had it taped on there.

And we have four or five

taped one over the other, and it Just got thicker and
thicker.

But we learned right along with you, and it

worked out real well.

We did more maneuvering with two

CMGs than I ever anticipated we would do with three.
And that goes to - That's a credit for everybody who
worked on that one.

POGUE

One of the things that's implied by Ed's comments wasn't
mentioned specifically, and that is a limited - limit to
three displays.

And this, of course, is why he was

wanting a caution and warning or some - some kind of
indication when you're approaching limits.

A lot of

time, you call out the - Well, you can call any of three.
You call - can call up three displays at any time.
may have attitude errors.

You

You may have attitude or

something else - rates, etc.

So even though you have

called about errors, you've got to keep switching back
and forth.

Then there's a good argument to be made for

having something like a CRT, where you can display a number
of parameters en masse, like it's in the MOCR.

But

that would of - It would have helped if you had been
able to see all the stuff.

We were always clicking back

and forth or doing something there, trying to get the right
displays up.

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One last thing - which - it was in the tech debrief,
but I'll Just mention it here also - on ACPS.

When we

started doing JOP l8D and we were really maneuvering the
spacecraft around, it became obvious that there are two
types of maneuvering that we were doing.

One was large

scale, getting over to the target, and there was a very one was a very fine pointing.
you try to get on target.

But once you get to it,

And trying to maneuver the -

the whole vehicle to large angles the way we did, it was
perfectly satisfactory.

Put in DAS entries and make

the maneuver and monitor rates of CMGs.

Eut for the

small maneuvers, where we are Just maybe making a - a
drift correction every 5 - 3 or It or 5 minutes in order
to keep up with the ccmet or to try to locate it, center
it, it took 20 key strokes every time we wanted to make
a - a maneuver.

And it became obvious that we were doing

nothing more than what the ATM was doing on the Sun.
And we ought to have a - a closed loop system - that is,
a visual feedback - so you could see what you want to
point at with a telescope, for example, so you can
actually see the target.

And secondly, have a little

swizzle stick there - little control stick - the same
way as we had on the ATM - which allows you to Just
move over there.

And you Just put step entries into

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(CONT'D)

the - The stick could put step entries into the CMGs
in the same way you do with the - through the - through
the DAS.

QUERY

One thing on the JOP 18D that - You Just reminded me of of it.

The - One of the problems that we might have had

was that nonlinearity in the television monitor, the - where
a circle doesn't turn out to be a circle.

And I wondered

whether you had noticed, say on S052, when you were looking
at the Sun and seeing it on the display, whether the
occulting disk appeared as a circle or had some distortion?
GIBSON

That slightly - appeared slightly oval.

And we called

t h i s down and asked i f people wanted measurements of i t ,
and no one really . . . about i t .
QITERY

It would have been - In retrospect, it would have been
useful to have that measurement so that we could correct
JOP 18D measurements that you made in order to - -

GIBSON

Yes.

QUERY

- - put in the bias maneuver.

GIBSON

I never really felt too satisfied with that whole system.
The only way - It always took me a little bit longer
to do the maneuvers on JOP 18 than were allowed for

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�GIBSON

because they usually made two maneuvers rather than one.
I'd go down to - If you started with - at this point out
here, I usually try to maneuver twice the amount over to
here and yet end up over here somewhere.
that attitude error is.

You see what

Get yourself right back into

here and then figure half of that attitude error in.
Hopefully, that would eliminate that.

But, again, what

you're pointing out is that maybe this whole thing is
nonlinear from here to here.

In other words, this

distance which looks half here might only be 1*5 percent.

QUERY

All the other TV display systems that really - you would
want to mak.e measurements, you have marks on the face
of your camera, too, that would show up as, say, a black
spot or a white spot on your monitor, and this would
provide a calibration of any - any errors in nonlinearity
you might have.

GIBSON

Yes.

What you're saying is, we should have had i t on the

TV itself, right on the - the vidicon.

QUERY

Right on the vidicon.

GIBSON

Right on the face - like you have a resolve lens on a camera.

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�QUERY

Yes.

'-IBSON

Yes, that would have helped.

Of course, the best thing

is to have a telescope which gives you a - a closed loop
feedback so you can just - •H'SRY

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:kn v ."

Completely optical, rather than electronic?
Yes.

Well, it could be a

through a telescope.

- a vidicon again, looking

But, of course, this thing -

whole thing was put on at the last minute.
QUERY

That's right.

uIBSON'

It was not designed for what we were doing; so I was pretty
happy we were at least able to do something with it.

But

it was - You know, when you wanted that thing right down
there to 0.01 of a degree all the time, right on the
nucleus, there was no way we could guarantee we'd be any­
where near that close.

I was figuring 0.02 or 0.03

is more like the nominal error.
QUERY

One thing on the minor attitude biases, we found out
really too late to do anything about.

That quantization

in the ATMDC made it where if you entered a 0.01, it
would come out to Just be something like 0.005; so this
could be one of the reasons why we had some problems
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(CONT'D)

with making these bias maneuvers.

Seemed like every -

0.01 was the worst error, 0.06 was very accurate, and
then 0.07 would be real bad again.

And 0.0 - 0.12

would be very - -

GIBSON

Is this conversion of decimal to octal?

Is that the - -

QUERY

Something in there.

QUERY

We had to make all the entries, though, in octal.

I - I don't - -

talk to you more about that.

I'll

I don't think it's necessary

to hang up everybody in here, but that was probably on
the same level of error as centering the display and
reading it, too.

CARR

Anything else, Chris?

QUERY

You guys got anything else on APCS?

GIBSON

No.

QUERY

Okay, very good.

We'll go to the thermal ECS then, and

Bill Patterson will lead the discussion.

PATTERSON

The - the first question concerns humidity level.

Early-

in-the-mission crew comments - and then again in the tech
debriefing - in - indicated that the humidity level was
lower than desired during the first part of the mission,
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�and there was some discussion about using wet towels
to increase that level.

Did you ever really do anything

like use wet towels to increase the humidity in the first
part of the mission?
We never had time.
Also, in the tech debriefing, the comment was stated
that the humidity level was good.

Was that good from a

comfort standpoint or good from the standpoint that to that moisture tended to dry up, you know, and not cause
any problems in that period or both?
Well, after we got used to it, it was from a comfort
standpoint.

But at first, when we got there, it took our

bodies a while to adjust to it.
skin and dandruff.

We had a lot of cracking

We had to take a lot of special

precautions to keep the humidity from bugging us.

And once

we adjusted to that, it was - it was good from a physio­
logical standpoint.

And, of course, the other one is the

fact that it dried up quickly.

You didn't have the

moisture that promoted the growth of bacteria and things
like that.

So we had enough fungus up there, and if it

had been any - any damper up there, we would have probably
had a whole lot more.

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Thank you.

PATTERSON

Again, from the tech debriefing, the comment was made
that lint and condensate water was sucked out of the
OWS heat exchangers during cleaning.

There was only

one time that we thought this occurred.

This was on

mission day 66 when we actually got - we knew we had
water - or pretty sure we had water in those heat
exchangers.

The question is, did that occur, or did you

notice that each time you cleaned them, or was that the
only time you noticed that?
POOUE

We noticed it each time we cleaned them after I made
the special tool modification.

And what it was - it was

a regular crevice tool which I modified with the lid on a
food can to make it so that it was perpendicular on the
end.
QUERY

Hu-huh.

POGUE

And then I took seme Mosite and wrapped around it so
that I could mash it down against the - the vanes , cooling
vanes on the OWS heat exchanger in order to create a
fairly good seal.

And that was - that was the first time

that we had noticed water in the heat exchanger vanes.
Now this was during very high beta angle.

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�CARR

We never saw water in there, did we?

You'd look

down there and it Just looked like a lot of lint.
POGUE

Only after - after I got through vacuuming.

If you

looked down in there when you took the cover off, it
looked fine.

It looked - it looked like it was crudded

up with lint.
CARR

Yes, but dry.

POGUE

But dry.

PATTERSON

Another thing, we noticed that the dewpoint on mission
day 65, the day before we asked, you know, about the
cleaning - that the dewpoint went up a few degrees.

Do

you recall any unusual spills or anything that might
have brought the dewpoint up?
CARR

Well, there's - there's a few things that will bring
the dewpoint up in the workshop.
day.

Number 1 is the shower

Another one would be the day that I do command

module housekeeping number 7 when I bring three to four
sloppy wet towels down into the waste management compart­
ment to dry out.

The idea here was that we soaked up all

the condensation water in the - in the command module and
I certainly didn't want to leave the towels there to

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dry out, or the condensate would just end up right
back where it was.

So I took the towels as far away

as I could, and that was to the waste management compart­
ment where we had seme towel holders to stuff them in,
and we'd let them dry down there.

So you might check

and see if - if the log indicates that I had Just finished,
maybe the day before, doing an - a housekeeping command
module number 7GIBSON

What day was that?

PATTERSON

Mission day 6 5 .

GIBSON

Oh, okay.

7-day housekeeping - -

It was a little later than that, towards

the end of the mission, when we had the rice seeds
growing.

We took the cover off and - and then just

put water on the outside.

And it was about this size

of a cover, maybe about this far across.

And I took

and put a bubble of water on there like this.
would evaporate in about a day and a half.

And that

So we had

an area of maybe 3 inches by 6 inches or water evaporating
all the time the last week or so.

PATTERSON

It took a day and a half to evaporate?

GIBSON

Yes, it took about a day and a half.

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That's - Okay.

POGUE

It sounds like that's about the - that was on about a
day off too.

CARR

6 5 , that's days.

Let's see, we had a day off on day TO, didn't we, or
71?

Day 70 was an EVA, I believe, 71 or something.

POGUE

Well, I remember - -

CARR

That's about right.

POGUE

It's about right for a day off.

CARR

It's close to a day off.

PATTERSON

Could have - could have been a shower day.

CARR

Yes.

PATTERSON

So, in summary, you do feel like it was water in those
OWS heat exchangers that - - ?

POGUE

No doubt about it.

PATTERSON

Okay, that's interesting.

POGUE

Because we had water in vacuum cleaner bags to the
point that it degraded the operation.

In fact, I

figured out one of those - I didn't know it was getting

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water on - I noticed a distinct chilling effect on the the metal part of the vacuum cleaner - the handle.

And

I wasn't aware that that was "being caused by - by sucking
water up in there, until it was too late.

I got water

in the bag; I got water in the hose.
PATTERSON

The next question concerns the ATM C&amp;D loop.

You asked

to turn the pump off during sleep periods at - when we
had the high-flow rates and the question is, was the
noise of the pump both - bothersome during normal working
hours, or only when you were trying to sleep?
GIBSON

I guess it was noticeable during normal working hours.
I wouldn't say it was really bothersome.

You had the

rate gyros drilling away in your ears when you were at
the ATM, and the other noise was perceptible, but not
that much more annoying.
CARR

When you're awake, noise levels like that, you get used
to.

GIBSON

Yes.

CARR

For instance, that lousy 6-cycle-per-second radio tone
that we had, Just got terrible.

But you got used to it.

And this thing - this ATM coolant loop tone was a pain

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in the neck when you let it - you know, when you listen
to it and let it bug you.

But after a while, you Just

mentally begin to block those sort of things out and
you forget about them.

But at night when you're not

thinking and you're not busy, then noises like that begin
to bother you, and that's why we wanted to shut it down.
PATTERSON

Okay, the next question concerns the ventilation system.
Results of previous debriefings indicated that the
ventilation diffusers were not frequently adjusted.

Were

the floor diffusers adjusted with any frequency to attain
comfort?

And if so, what position were the diffusers

generally left in?
GIBSON

Sleep compartment, I think is the only ones where they
actually changed.

For myself, when we got to high beta,

I used to direct the flow more up towards the sleep
restraints.

Other times, I'd have it Just ad - adjusted

to the minimum flow rate that I could get without getting
a lot of noise associated with the turbulent air flow.
PATTERSON

But as far as the circular diffuser, you didn't see readjust those?

GIBSON

No, I didn't change with those things at all.

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�I changed the one up there by EREP, I think, twice.
To keep - It got pretty cool in the MDA and - working
at the C&amp;D panel for an extended period of time or
even the VTS.

At one position, I don't know which it

was, but it blew right on your head.
This - we - We noticed the comment about the possibility
of using a swivel.
Yes, that'd been nice.
Yes.

Would you comment on your thermal comfort or

general comfort throughout the mission?
We had plenty of control.

Except for the - for Ed's sleep

compartment.
That's where the hot spot was ?
Yes.

Yes, I really got warm in there, but there again, it
didn't feel that uncomfortable because the humidity
was way down.

But it was a thing if you tried to go

to sleep for some reason where a little too high a
temperature, you Just couldn't go to sleep, and that's
what I experienced. I didn't feel too uncomfortable

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in there, but have you ever tried to go to sleep when
the - out in the desert with the air 85, or whatever
it is in there; a lot of radiant heat ccming off the
wall.

POGUE

It just was not possible.

That radiant heat was - I walked in there a couple of
times and it was - it really impressed you as being very,
very warm in there.

CARR

Drives those - -

There's a lot radiant heat over behind the workshop
control panel - the instrument panel over there, panel
600 series.

POGUE

Right.

CARR

Lots of heat - radiant heat off those things - -

POGUE

And the plus-Z SAL, of course and those wat - in the
water tank area above that.

Where you walk over there

and do something and the - the - had the dry bulb temper­
ature of so many degrees plus that radiant heat, boy, it
would really build your body heat load up fast.
CARR

It's amazing how sensitive the - your body is to this these temperatures.

I noticed, just as soon as we started

up in the hot case, we all started having trouble getting

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to sleep.

When you get about, oh, something like

(CONT'D)

2 or 3 degrees above what's comfortable to you, it
starts bothering you.

PATTERSON

This - -

CARR

You have to readjust.

PATTERSON

You mentioned the plus-Z SAL and you - you also mentioned
the water tank, directly above that on position - -

POGUE

Actually it was -I'm sorry, it wasn't right above it.
It was over - if you were facing the plus-Z SAL, it was
over to the right some.

Wouldn't that be water tank 3?

CARR

Let's see.

I guess it's more - -

POGUE

Or U?

CARR

Wouldn't you say it's more over toward T020, M509?

POGUE

That's what I mean.

CARR

Film vault area there, which I think was right tinder
the edge of the parasol and sail.

I think so.

POGUE

It must be over close to the edge of that - -

PATTERSON

Yes, we would suspect it would be over at the end of
the - the edge of the sail.

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And Ed's sleep compartment's on the other end.

QUERY

Right.

PATTERSON

Did - while we're talking about hot spots, did you notice
any other - or any touch temperature problems encountered
following these EREPs and maneuvers at the real high
betas; you know, where we turn the shield - we've got the
Sun on the gold?

GIBSON

I never noticed a touch temperature problem at all
in - anywhere in the cluster due to any reason.

PATTERSON

Okay.

GIBSON

One where they worried about touch temperature was on We turned the ATM coolant loop off and worried about the
TV monitors heating up.

And you could take one - have one

monitor off and one on and

jUBt

feel the difference between

the two, and it was Just barely preceptible.
was having it off for half an hour to an hour.
the details on the downlink once.

And that
I gave

And I think we were

really overconservative in use of that ATM C&amp;D with the
coolant loop off.
PATTERSON

We touched on this question yesterday in the contamination
session, but, again, did you notice any changes in the

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gold or the white paint, the gold paint or the white paint
from the beginning or end, through the end of the
mission; any Deltas?

GIBSON

Hmmm —

CARR

I don't think we could - think we sensed it.

I sure

didn't sense any change.

GIBSON

No.

CARR

I'm sure there was seme.

The change that I sensed was on

the contamination that was deposited on the windows of
the command module.

As far as colors of the tape or

the paint, that was awfully hard to do.

I was just im­

pressed by the fact that it was already tan or yellow
when we got there.

And I don't have a strong feeling

whether it was any more tan or yellow when we left.

POGUE

The only thing that impressed me - of course, I went
out Thanksgiving Day and then later on Christmas Day,
and I could tell a difference in the command module,
white paint on the command module.

But that's all.

It

was much more gold - or, you know, it was - it was white,
obviously, the first week.

We went out I guess about

day 5 or 6, whenever it was, and then during - on

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(CONT'D)

Christmas Day it had definitely turned a much more
brown - gold-type color.

PATTERSON

The next question concerns the odor that was mentioned
in the tech debriefing in the waste management compartment
near the end of the mission.

Let's see.

You noticed that -

well, what we were trying to do is trace the charcoal
canister replacements, which - We only found one on mission
day 55.

And what we were thinking is maybe the canister

was overused or something and allowed some odor, possibly,
to get up in the motor.
CARR

Didn't you folks get the word that we - in our - in our
dcwnlink tapes that we - we pulled the boot off the top
of the charcoal canister and sniffed, and that it was the odors coming out of the canister were good and clean.
But it was out of the blower, is where the odors were ccming
from.

PATTERSON

Yes.

CARR

So how can you even consider there's a problem with the

I guess we were - right.

We - -

canister?
PATTERSON

Well, the reason being that it was scheduled for change
every 28 days.

We were Just wondering if the canister

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PATTERSON
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was left in there a long time, could have - you know,
been completely poisoned or something and allowed some­
thing to get up in that motor to give you the odor in
the motor area?

CARR

I don't know.

You guys would know that better than we

would.
POGUE

But you're right; it waB only changed out once.

PATTERSON

Okay, that's - -

QUERY

Okay, that's ...

PATTERSON

There - they have a few questions relative to the refrig­
eration system.

MOSS

Okay.

Doug Moss, ...

During the SL-H deactivation, you guys were asked

to go to panel 6ll and close the PRIMARY LOOP circuit
breaker on that RADIATOR BYPASS VALVE controller and
to cycle the SECONDARY LOOP circuit breaker.

Now, each

of those motions should not cause any movement of the
bypass valves or anything; that's Just setting us up, you
know, for postmission testing.
POGUE

Right.

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But at about the time these things were scheduled, we
noticed a definite degradation in the primary loop at
that time that we attributed to a bypass valve motion
because our temperatures started getting hotter; our
pressure dropped off Just like you tried to go to a bypass
mode or something, even though it shouldn't have done that.
What we want to fine out - if there is a relationship
between this apparent failure that we saw and the motions
of the circuit breakers.

And in listening to the loops,

we heard that you guys were asked to doublecheck to see
if you had closed those circuit breakers about an hour
after we started seeing this degradation.

The degradation

seemed to be consistent with when you guys should have
closed it.

What were the results of that doublecheck?

We didn't hear any words back.
POGUE

It was correct.

MDSS

It was correct?

POGUE

The configuration was correct,

MOSS

Okay.

POGUE

I - I had a pretty good idea what you were talk - why
you were asking it.

I mean, I didn't know that you'd

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started experiencing degradation, but I knew there
was a problem in this area.

MOSS

Yes.

POGUE

Because we had been fairly carefully brief - preflight.

CARR

When was this done?

MOSS

Yes, during deactivation.

CARR

It seems to me I remember we were fooling with the

Near the end of the mission?
Matter of fact - -

refrigeration system real early in the mission, too.
Did we - didn't you folks have us do something early
in the mission with the system?

And it seems to me that

your freezer temps all started up and people got kind of
worried about it, and then they leveled off and went back
where they were, sometime like the first third of the
mission, around that period of time.
MOSS

I don't recall right off.

Bill, do you?

QUERY

No.

MOSS

But, basically, anything you guys did to the circuit
breakers shouldn't have caused it.

We're Just trying

to see if we can get a relationship, you know, for

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MOSS
(CONT'D)

a subsequent check on that.

I really don't recall.

Listened to the contamination comments yesterday.

You

stated there was some difference between the apparent
degradation of white paints or discoloration versus
what was captured on film.

Could you comment on that

in respect to the radiator - refrigeration system
radiator?
CARR

Oh, we couldn't see that.

MOSS

Couldn't see it during the flyby?

CARR

During the flyby, we may have a picture or two on that.

POGUE

Oh, we do have.

MOSS

I thought I saw some pictures on the thing, but they

We - -

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POGUE

Oh, yea.

MOSS

Looked good, huh?

POGUE

Yes.

MOSS

Okay.

CARR

But, again, we were a good distance from it when we saw

That - that aft radiator looked all right,

it.

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�QUERY

Yes.

CARR

Because when we went over the ATM, that - at that time,
I quit worrying about how close we were and I let our
range open as I was moving off toward the separation
attitude.

And this was - this was planned.

We had

decided that once we cleared over the top of the ATM
and got the top of the workshop, then we wouldn't worry
about the range any more or waste any more gas trying to
keep it in tight.

The photographs, in general, are

have a tendency to wash out this thing.

We took a

look at the master print of the l6-millimeter EVA stuff
we took, and that print is a whole lot better color color definition than is the first print that we saw.
You know, I - yesterday I wbb complaining because the
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was pleased yesterday afternoon, when we looked at the
master print, to see that there is better color in that.
So it appears that the more times you copy one of these
things, or the further down the copy chain it gets, the
more of that definition you lose.
POGUE

One question we should ask you, and that is, it was
very easy for us, with the eye, to determine the degrada­
tion of, say, a white.

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But the radiator - the refrigeration

�POGUE
(CONT'D)

radiator, that thing on the hack end of the vehicle
is, as far as I'm concerned, black body.

Wha - How

would we recognize the degradation?
MOSS

The radiator itself was the S13G white paint, that
octagonal shape.

POGUE

Maybe it was a shadow, then.

CARR

One thing about the white paint is that it looks white

We were in SI.

from a distance even with our eye.

I remember, when

we got to the workshop during the rendezvous phase, being
so impressed by the stark white, the black, and the gold
and how stark and clear they were.

And then when we got

docked, all the white was all of a sudden stained brown.
POGUE

Gold.

CARR

Gold, you know, sort of that - that beige that we've been
describing.

MOSS

So, looking at the photographs, it would be apparent that
you guys were a good distance away from the radiator by
the time you got around to where you could really see
it ...

CARR

I would say 250 feet.

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�POGUE

But the photographs - there are photographs all the way
around.

What I suggest you do is the edge.

You know the

radiator come - is perpendicular and it's - it looks
like it's about a foot wide; I don't know how wide it is.
Is that white?

Is that white paint there?

If that is

the same white paint that's on the surface of the radiator,
then you've got a good gage to go by, because the other - QUERY

That looked white to you, then?

POGUE

No, you look at the picture, and I think the pictures are

Would you consider - -

fairly accurate; it was Hassleblad.

I was not impressed

with the degradation of color there.
catch ny eye.

It looked good.

I mean it didn't

However, the - the flat

portion of the radiator was perpen - was parallel to the
Sun line so it was not illuminated.
QUERY

Okay.

POGUE

So it'll appear shaded.

I thought it was black.

If you'll take a look at the - at

the Hassleblads, and there are beaucoup pictures as we
went over the back side there, then you ought to - you
should be able to compare it with the white paint on the
booster pattern.
QUERY

I get you.

Okay.

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CARR

Yeah, you must realize that during this flyaround that I
wasn't at all interested in any kind of detail.

I was

mainly concerned with keeping my - my vehicle from - in the
right relative position to that vehicle, and I was looking
at big things.

Ed really didn't have much opportunity

to look out at all, because he was supposed to be watching
my instrument panel and doing some time checks to make
sure that we were using - getting around on schedule.
And Bill, in the right side, was not as interested in detail
because he was busy getting photographic coverage.

So i t ' s

awfully hard for us to tell you too much about the details
of what we saw because we Just weren't looking.

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POGUE

There is a good gage for whiteness in that the - one pole
sail.

I think you're familiar with our report that one of

the folds opened up and exposed a relatively new white
area?

I suggest you use that as a sort of garden-variety

gouge and gage.
QUERY

Okay.

I want to show you a sketch that I made here.

a crude one.

It's

These are the - consider this as a food

storage freezer with the three doors here.

We determined

kind of late in our design that we had some thermal shorts
where these little X's are.
CARR

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You sure did.

And I think that's where - -

�QUERY

- - you saw most of the ice buildup.
ahead time.

We were aware of it

But what we did is run a little test program

to try to satisfy ourselves that that wasn't going to be
a problem versus, you know, a major redesign of that area.
So I'm gonna ask you a couple or three questions as my
last questions, and, if you would, comment with respect to
that area as well as any other areas that might have ice
on them, because I think there would be a significant
difference in the thickness of ice and so forth.
POGUE

And - -

Are you talking about the chiller and two freezers, or
is that the three freezers up in - -

QUERY

Well, either one.

I - you should have seen it between

the two freezers ...
CARR

Between the two freezers down below?

QUERY

Right.

CARR

You definitely did have the thermal short there, and the
first ice buildup that you would get would be a line,
like an icicle sort of thing, right there.

QUERY

Sticking out between the doors.

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Right.

And then as that ice built up, as it got bigger,

it would begin, apparently, to distort the door a little
bit, and that would allow ice to build up all the way
around the door.
QUERY

I see.

CARR

And about the time the - the ground came up with a house­
keeping assignment to scrape the ice was about the time we
were beginning to have trouble opening the door because of
friction in the - in the latch.

QUERY

And that was - then the first time it became a problem is
the next question I have, which is really kind of routine
to you.

It became a problem, I guess, about every time it

was time to clean it.
POGUE

That's about right.

And when the power to close the

doors - open the doors - CARR

The symptom was you'd close the door, you'd slam the door,
and it would close and then you would have to really fight
with the button to get it to unlatch, because there was
so much friction.

You'd push on the handle of the door

and push down on the - on the lever - on the handle in
order to unlatch the door.

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�QUERY

Okay, now one other thing on that, on the freezer I guess
there was a piece of metal foil tape, you know, like so
wide, that went around the freezer itself that the rubber
seal stood against.

Did you notice that previous crews

cleaned this freezer or anything?
to be cleaned as you know.

That thing wasn't meant

Did you see any apparent

mechanical degradation of that foil?

Was it torn, any­

thing like that that might accelerate an ice problem?
CARR

Yes.

POGUE

Very definitely.

CAR P

And we did our bit on it, too.

P0GUE

That's right.

We sure didn't help it any.

And I would

suggest that in future systems you have removable ones,
replaceable ones.

Either that or get a hot - have a

frostfree or self-defrosting or something, because that
was a real problem.

It's hard to get to, too.

I think

we've already mentioned that little inner door there; that
really presented a problem.
QUERY

Yes, that's right.

QUERY

That's all the questions I have on refrigeration.

QUERY

That's all I have.

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QUERY

Anything else, Bill?

QUERY

I see EGIL Steve back there.

Steve, you got any questions

you want to ask in the thermal/ECS area?
McLENDON

Now, one of the - one of the things that was - that was
brought up, I think, at the first - -

CARR

Want to slip him the microphone there?

McLENDON

One of the - one of the things that you were talking
about there at the first that - you were talking about
some stuff that we asked you to do in the first - I think
it was about the first week of the mission, as far as the
oil system went.

We had you play around with it.

I

remember that fairly well, and what the thing here was is
that we saw one of our chiller temps decrease about - I
guess it was about 5 or 6 degrees.
parameters looked good.

And all the other

The only way we could explain

it as far as a rational explanation was if you - if you
transferred something out of the freezers into the
chillers.
POGUE

And we hadn't done it.

McLENDON

And we'd asked you about that, and to this day that ex that remains a nystery to us, and we just don't know what
happened there.

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�POGUE

That was a clear-cut answer that we gave you.

I looked

in there, and there was nothing in there and no one had
transferred anything in there, and we couldn't explain that
spike anyway.
CARR

That's right, that was that.

McLENDON

Okay, thank you.

QUERY

Okay, thank you very much.

Black magic.

I guess we're ready for the

electrical power system then.
CARR

Wait until I ... without ...

POGUE
GIBSON
GIBSON

I'm sure we've got two or three or four other ones.

CARR

Well, I can't think of any . . .

QUERY

Did you guys get coffee?

POGUE

No, thank you.

CARR

I'm good for right now, thanks.

QUERY

A1 Woosley from Marshall will lead the questions.
when you're ready, go ahead.

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QUERY
QUERY
QUERY
WOOSLEY

What about the ... acting ...

You can - It'll - the mike will lock up.

There you go.

Push it in and raise it.
Push it in and raise it.

These are the EPS nations.

During predock and station.

keeping, where we have reference to these Rations, are
the full lights on the discone antenna visible!
they visible!

And wer,

And do you think that they were necessary

t° have lights on the discone antenna!

Did you observe

them?
CARR

I didn't observe then at night, because about the time I
could see it out the front window is when we pitched for­
ward, so Bill, who was looking out the telescope, could
probably co-ent on that.

But see we were pitched up so

that I couldn't see the - the workshop during the breaking
during the final terminal phase.

And after 1 did the

last mideourse is when we pitched up, and I could see it,
a*d we were already In daylight.
POGUE
WOOSLEY

Yes,

I could see the lights.

You could see it?

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So - -

�POGUE

Yes.

CARR

I would think that for night stationkeeping that you would
want those lights, because you need to spread out your
target as much as you can at night and get your peripheral
vision as good a chance as you can, because depth perception
isn't - is nil at night anyway because the loss of - what
is it the rods or the cones - I can never get it straight.
But anyway there - -

POGUE

Cones.

CARR

The one - one type of visual sensor Just doesn't work at
night, and that's where you get your depth perception.
So you need them.

WOOSLEY

You would - even though you didn't use them, you would
recommend them.

CARR

Yes, sir.

If I had to do any night stationkeeping, I'm

pretty sure I would have been very thankful they were there,
WOOSLEY

Are all of the colored running lights still burning on the
airlock?

POGUE

Couldn't say.

CARR

Yes, I couldn't say either.
And -

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See, we left in daylight.

�WOOSLEY

And you came up in - in the night.

SPEAKER

But on rendezvous, do you remember?

POGUE

I - it was a bunch of lights.

I - I didn't have anything

to compare it with, you know, I Just - CARR

See that was U months ago.

There's no way we're going to

remember that kind of thing.
QUERY

Do you recall - -

QUERY

There were - excuse me.

There were some photography - some

movies taken at that time and stills.

You might want to

check the photographic record for the specifics.

You will

be able to tell some of that, you know, from whatever
photography is there.
POGUE

Might be able to do that, because the - if I remember cor­
rectly, we got some - with a fairly good lens, we got some
pictures of that during the stationkeeping and prior to
docking.
black.

And the workshop was against night sky or the
So if it registered - of course it was brightly

illuminated, so it may have washed it out.

But you can

check it for that.
CARR

We talked about putting the camera up to that telescope.
Remember?

And taking a picture, and then we never did get

around to doing it.

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Do you recall if any of the AM EVA lights had burned out?

CARR

No, sir.

POGUE

We had plenty of light at night.

CARR

The lighting was excellent at night on the EVA trail.

I don't think so.

They were all right.

WOOSLEY
CARR

I don't remember seeing any that were dark.

WOOSLEY

You commented quite a bit about the lights in the airlock,
but I'm going to ask you, if you don't mind, a few more
questions or one question.

How many of the 10-watt and

20-watt airlock lights required replacement?
CARR

I changed out every one of the lights in the aft airlock
on one occasion and a lot of them were still working, but
they were very, very dim because the filament had plated
out on the inside of the glass and just completely wiped
out the light itself.

And I noticed that one or two lights

in the STS area and in the forward airlock *ere about
ready for replacement, but I never got around to it.
was just one day when I wanted the light.

It

I was getting

ready to service the PLSS bottles or the PSS bottles.

And

I decided, well, once I've started, I'll go ahead and change
them all.

It only took a couple or 3 minutes to do it,

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CARR
(CONT'D)

but it was either burnt out or it was so degraded due
to the plating on the inside of the glass that it required
changing, but it was a very marked degradation of light,
transmissivity.

QUERY

Now is this the bigger - the 20-watt bulbs or the hand­
rail lights too.

Did they deposit - -

CARR

Oh yes, the handrail lights had deposits on them, too.

QUERY

Both of them?

CARR

The ones on the aft airlock, it seemed to me, were the

3

small lights, the 5 or whatever that amp was - 10.
QUERY

10 watts are the small ones.

CARR

Yes.

But you know, we saw a few of those light bulbs over

in the trainer all plated out too, and we were kind of
surprised by that and remembered the other crews telling
us, yes, and you're going to see that in flight, you're
going to see a lot of those lights plated out.

And that's

surprising to me.
QUERY

I guess we missed out in the other debriefings; we didn't
get a report.

At least I don't recall ever hearing a

report until we saw yours on this deposit.

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I wasn't surprised when I saw them plated out because
we've seen them in the trainer all plated out, and I was
surprised why we ever bought that kind of light if it was
going to plate out on us.

QUERY

Did you have any problems - did you encounter any problems
in the replacement of the bulbs?

CARR
POGUE

No, sir; simple bayonet fitting, no problem at all.
One of the things that bugged me about those incandescent
light covers was that they didn't seem to want to stay in
position; they're always sliding out - out of position.

CARR
QUERY
POGUE
CARR
POGUE
CARR

They were very easily bumped free.
Now is this the ones on the handrails or - Yes, on the handrails.

Those little ball detents Just weren't strong enough.
They weren't strong enough.

I'm surprised we didn't kick those things off and then
Kick a ligftt bulb and break it, but we never did.

QUERY

Never did break one?

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�CARR

But we sure did bang a lot of those covers off and have
them slide down the handles.

QUERY

Now, let's see, the 20-watt bulbs had the metallic screens
over the glass.

Isn't that right, Dennis?

You had a screen over the glass on that large one.

Did

the tracking and the acquisition lights operate properly?
The blinking lights?
POGUE

Yes.

CARR

We kind of figured there would be - it would make tracking
a little more difficult having an occulting light.

And,

as I remember, you made a comment that by golly, Just
like the simulator, it made it a little more difficult to
track when it was occulting.
QUERY

Oh, it did make it more difficult?

POGUE

Well, yes, the thing is, when you're tracking with the
little control.

You're ready, being ready to mark, and

the period of the flashes is such that during the dark
period, you don't know where the target is for control.
So, everytime it blinks, you know you're - you're chasing
it back to the crosshairs.

So then when it blinks, if it's

on a crosshairs, you mark real fast.

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That's the problem.

�CARR

The message here is that the occulting period of the light
for tracking lights should be, I think, sped up.

POGUE

Yes, it was like a strobe, you know, about 3 cycles a
second.

Even if it was only on for a thousandth of a

second, it would enhance the tracking operation.

QUERY

Give you a more continuous light so you could get your
mark.

POGUE

Yes.

CARR

I guess the reason for the occulting, the flashing of
the light, was to - so that we could tell it from a star
at night, but the thing was we Just had a - the frequency
was much too - too low.

And it was off too long and if

you were trying to track that rascal into a crosshairs
to make a mark, it would go out Just as you were getting
into a crosshairs to make a mark, it would go out Just
as you were getting into the crosshairs and you would say
well, shall I mark or shall I not and if you don't it will
almost always end up outside on the other side or something.

POGUE

That's compounded by attitude control system thruster
fire, the RCS thruster fires in the command module.

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So

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(CONT'D)

if you have a fire in - while the thing is off and you
mark, you can - you could induce a large error in the
solution.

QUERY

Okay.

You got to be very careful.

Did any of your airlock status lights burn out much

on the panels?

We'll say 203, Ul6, 205, 206, those status

lights?
POGUE

No, we watched those; we kept them down and out, respec­
tively , the ones that had the rheostats and so forth.

So

they didn't burn out like they did on the simulator.
QUERY

Or like they did at the Cape, too.

POGUE

Yes.

QUERY

Next question concerns electrical connectors.

Right.

Which type

of connector is preferred for connecting and disconnecting
by the crew, the zero-g or the microdot airlock or the
Bendix with the crew assist ring?

Would you care to

comment about connectors, in general, that you had to
mate and demate.
CARR

I personally preferred the zero-g.

POGUE

The zero-g is almost impossible to screw up, but there's there's a slight modification that would really in^rove
that, in that if you were in an awkward posture, in other
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words, if I was trying to put it in that way and I was
reaching around "because of inaccessibility-

It's - it's

a little bit difficult to clock that thing and get it in
right before you can start moving the lever, and there
seemed to be a lock up feature because of the linkage.
It would sometimes Jam that — the lever that puts it in
that position.

We knew that before flight, but that appears

to be a pretty safe connector and almost impossible to
ruin, I mean, you know, to put on incorrectly.
CARR

I'd say it's far superior to the other types.

It's got

a little way to go yet, but it's a far superior way of
making connections than some of the others.
POGUE

But it does - it should have those little - a couple of
little things removed from it, that is, it's sort of
difficult to get it in the riggit position.

You know,

you got to put one of the little lugs in and then sort
of rotate it into the position.
QUERY

Yes.

POGUE

And then you got to push the

QUERY

All the way up before you can operate the handle, if you
had - -

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�POGUE

All the way up.

QUERY

So I remember, I guess, if you operate the handle too

That's correct.

early you - CARR

Yes.

POGUE

But you can get it in the right position and start to

You ... yourself up and have to start over.

move the handle to move the connector into position and
it won't move.

It sort of goes over center, locks out

over center, and then you got to sort of lift it and play
with it a little bit, and as soon as you get it out of
the over the center position, then it pushes - moves in
rather easily.
CARR

Okay.

QUERY

Was - I believe I covered the connectors - was meter
lighting used in the STS?

POGUE

Meter?

QUERY

Meter lighting?

POGUE

Yes, I did occasionally.

QUERY

Was it adequate?

POGUE

Yes.
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Did you use the

�QUERY

Is meter lighting considered necessary?

Do you find

that - POGUE

Not in the STS.

It certainly was necessary in the airlock,

I would say, prior to EVA egress.

Here, let me - the reason,

now, is this, don't take that as the gospel.
reason I say it was

Because the

1 right was because there was enough

ambient light in that area usually so you could read the
meters.
QUERY

Yes.

POGUE

We really didn't need meter lights.

I used them for

general illumination when we were - a low light level
illumination when we were doing comet photography; that's
the only time I ever used them.

But that isn't using

them for reading the meters, however, if you had a dark
area, you'd want a meter lighting, so that's why I say,
I don't want you know, to be - want to be misunderstood
on it.
QUERY

Okay.

Were the - this is airlock again - were the

variable dimming controls for - provided for STS and
meter limiting utilized?

That's for the handrails, the

panel, the forward and the aft lights had the variable
dimming controls.

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POGUE

Yes, I think we all used them at one time or another.
Why didn't we have variable dimming on the status lights?
That would have been nice.

You know the green-amber lights

if for no other reason than it would have improved life­
time in the bulbs.

Of course, if - what I'm saying is, if

one had to monitor systems manually.

We didn't have to

do that; we never faced the problem.

Ground took very

good care of this system.

If we had had to go manual on

EPS, we would have had a problem, because we could have
always been turning status lights on and off evezytime
we went up there because we were afraid the bulbs would

o

have burned out.

It would have been nice if we could

have dimmed them and preserved the filaments, assuming
that would do it.

I don't know if that would have worked

or not, but I just think that putting lower power on the
filaments would have increased the lifetime.
QUERY

It may or may not.

QUERY

What it would have prolonged the life, you mean?

QUERY

It may not.

QUERY

But he asked the question why we didn't have variable
controls.

V

You remember that?

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You got any background?

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POGUE

There's another operational impact and that is those are
awfully bright lights.

It's amazing what a tiny, bright

light will do to distract you.

We had one on a timer on

the ATM panel and it would have been nice for that reason
also, and again that's assuming manual control with EPS.
CARR

Although the record light on the SIAs too.

POGUE

Oh, yes.

CARR

Sometimes you'd have to put tape over that when you were
in there trying to do comet photography and you wanted it
perfectly dark.

J
QUERY

In this area I have smother question, and that is - I
think you've answered it - is it a desirable feature and
do you even recommend it for consideration even for meter
lighting, that the dimming control is a desirable feature?

CARR

Sure.

POGUE

I think it is.

I think you get operational situations

where it is going to be a necessity.
QUERY

The next questions have to do with control and display.
Any general comments about physical arrangement of
switches and circuit breakers and the identification of
switch - systems on the control and display panel?

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�CARR

We covered that adequately in the technical debriefing.
I don't think we need to waste any time at this meeting
doing it.

We really preached a sermon on that one.

QUERY

I recall reading some of it about the nomenclature.

CARR

The main thing that we said was that the C&amp;D panel should
have a design goal of giving the operator visibility into
the system.

And our best example of an ideally designed

C&amp;D panel is panel 225 in the STS. The fact that you've
got all the pipes and the plumbing laid out and can see
what the switch does when you do it, and that is a neat
design goal; we recognize that you can't always attain
that goal, but that's the goal. We got some panels in
the workshop that looking at them gives you no hint as to
what you're doing when you're throwing a switch.

Some­

times even the words don't tell you a whole hell of a
lot about what you're doing.
POGUE

Sometimes they mess you up.

CARR

Yes.

But I think we've covered that pretty adequately,

and we probably shouldn't use the time today to do that,
QUERY

All right.

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�P0GUE

1 W°Uld Just like to

and 202 to task.

emphasize where we've taken 200, 201

The caution and warning is a case in

point, though, where we could really have used some help
with an ordinate-abscissa technique for identifying the
inhibit switch.
panel.

It was hard to find a switch on that

The ground would call you to go and inhibit such

and such and golly, you know, it's like taking 52 cards
and spreading them out on a table and say take out the
ace of spades.
QUERY

Maybe you covered this but I don't recall such illegi­
bility of panel marking of switch and circuit breaker
nomenclature under lighting conditions encountered during
the mission.

In other words, with the lighting that you

experienced there, were you able to read, even though you
didn't like the nomenclature and some of the arrangements?
CARR

Seems to me we always had light available to read a panel
with.

I'm trying to think if there's any panels anywhere

in the workshop where we had to worry about that.

Some­

thing strikes me that we did somewhere, and I can't
remember now where it is.

But we always had lighting

available that I can think of where - you could bring to
bear on the panel to read it.

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�POGUE

One thing that would he nice - airlock was a problem
because we'd go in - we always kept the lights out in
there most of the time. The light switch itself should
be distinctively marked because it - it's, you know, like
going into a dark room and finding the light switch if
you don't know where it is. So you've got to have a
light switch on before you can find a light switch.

And

that was not that much of a problem, but it was a little
bit of a problem, because I remember several times,
thrashing around in the air, because you could be clocked,
see, when you went into the airlock module you didn't
know which end was up and which panel had the light switch
on it.

It would have been nice to have a general illumi­

nation switch for an area, marked.
there was really no big problem.

Other than that,

That's the only one

I remember.
CARR
QUERY

yes.

Switch and circuit breaker grouping versus task.

Is the

identification and grouping of frequently used switches
and circuit breakers, adequate to preclude inadvertent
operation of adjacent circuit breakers or switches?
POGUE

No, it was not adequate.

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�CARR

No.

Again, that's pretty well called out in the tech

debriefing along with our idea that you got to have
visibility into the circuits that you are operating.
POGUE

Yes, there were two problems.

One is the visibility in

the system was not provided and the other was ambiguous
nomenclature and again I think we've gone into that.
QUERY

I think you've covered that. Por assessing the adequacy
of onboard meter ranges and color banding.

CARR

Well, there's nothing more impersonal on a meter than to
read percentage if you don't have a feel for what it
means.

That is certainly an advantage from a design

standpoint, because you've only got so many volts to work
with and percentage is a lot easier, but it certainly
does limit your visibility as to what you are looking at.
If you have to remember that - that the 50 percent means
2 volts in this system and lU volts in this system, and
7 psi in that system.

That certainly does inhibit your

visibility. Color banding - I have always been a pro­
ponent of color banding wherever possible if - if it
will improve your visibility into a system.

We played

lots of color banding games with the lunar module and

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�CARR
(CONT'D)

the color banding that ve used in the workshop in the
600 Series panels I thought was pretty good, but you
have to be careful about parallax - is the biter there.
And what we usually ended up with on a doggone colorbanding thing is it's always an afterthought; it always
gets put on the glass instead on the meter so you always
have parallax and color banding Just bites you.
thing with airplanes today too.

Same

Somebody always decides

to put the color banding on an exhaust gas temperature
gage or a pressure gage after the thing has been built
and so it depends on how you're sitting in the seat of
the airplane whether or not you're in or out of the color
band and you always have to worry about parallax.

So

there is a pitfall and the workshop have the same
problems.
POGUE
QUERY
POGUE

It was an interesting - -

Were you going to add something there with your sketch?
All right, let's say that because of the change in the
acceptable parameters, this sounds contradictory, what
Jer says but it doesn't have to be.

If

you

could design

something to - if you, for instance, if you had a green
band hidden by two movable tapes which would identify
a - in other words, the green would be blocked out
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�POGUE
(CONT'D)

everywhere these two tapes were, but left open where they
weren't, then you could adjust for green-band operation.
I'm really for green banding in a meter BO you don't
have to go interpret the meter every time you look at
it.

You can Just see if the needle is in the green, you

forget it.

But it looked to me like we were - in some of

the systems we accepted the changes in what were the
acceptable ranges.

And it would be nice if you could

change those things manually for - for quick observation
and then interpretation of the gages.

QUERY

By some scheme of tape or something?

Open it up?

POGUE

Yes, but we had a fairly interesting scheme down in the
refrigeration system in that there were staggered bands,
if I remember correctly.

And there was Just a little bit

of a confusion factor there on the staggered bands, but
then I got used to it real quick.

I thought it - overall

it was a good idea it - but you had to watch what you were
doing there; you could interpret a reading as satisfactory
when it wasn't really satisfactory range.
QUERY

Do you recall any nuisance circuit breaker trips?
that popped open?

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Any

�CARR

No, usually when they popped there was a reason and I
don't - we didn't lose many.

POGUE

We - we never pushed a - I guesB we never pushed a breaker
back in without around - -

POGUE

- - Concurrence.

CARR

Yes, we usually got air-to-ground concurrence.

POGUE

If we - I think we would have noticed that, that's what
I'm saying and the ground would have - -

CARR

We had some - -

QUERY

I don't think we had any, but I've asked this question of
each of the crews.

CARR

Yes, we had a multiplexer problem or something with the
communications about midway through the mission, and
they had us cycling breakers and that's the nearest
thing we came to having any sort of breaker problems.
Finally after we cycled a whole bunch of breakers, the
problem went away and I don't know if the ground ever
figured out what it was, but it had to do with the
communications and the way you folks vere getting your
data.

One of those multiplexers or something was - -

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�POGUE

I tell you one thing that was a bit of - not of a nui­
sance, but a sort of a pitfall, and that is you could
throw those Gemini-type circuit breakers by touching
them with a finger if you had happened accidently to
use panel 200, 201, or 202 as a handhold.

Just a very

light pressure would flick it sometimes.

I'm sure that

would squarewave anybody if they were watching that
system at the time.

I did that a couple of times.

CARR

I guess I don't really like that kind of circuit breaker.

QUERY

My question really was for a tripping out, you know, from
a spike or a current or something like that.

POGUE

Yes.

QUERY

Okay.

CARR

I guess I don't even like that kind of circuit breaker,
that little switch thing.
fragile.

They're Just too doggone

But I recognize that the other kind is awful

beefy and takes up a lot more space.
QUERY

Was - the solar flare alert panel - was it adequate?

POGUE

Down in the workshop?

QUERY

Yes.

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�POGUE

We never really used It.

That was actuated by a system

which was not all that good of an indicator of a flare.
CARR

Boy, I tell you, the South Atlantic anomaly was so much
of a nuisance that we essentially killed the system down
in the workshop in the experiment compartment because
it was Just a noisy nuisance.

QUERY

The flare alert?

CARR

The fire alert, no, we got a couple of fire alarms there.

QUERY

I said the flare, the solar flare alert.

POGUE

Oh, yes.

QUERY

Because of the South Atlantic anomaly?

CARR

Yes, and there's also some horns up in the Northern

We Just - -

Hemisphere someplace.
POGUE

Yes, that will really throw you off.

SPEAKER

Come over Canada and get a flare and you know you'd
look - it Just bugged you and so we Just turned it off
and left it off.

We could hear the one going in the

MDA when it went.
QUERY

Was it the radio noise that first bothered you?

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�POGUE

No.

CARR

No, the - either one.

POGUE

Yes, that's right; it would throw it off.

It was the either RF or - We didn't set

that up too much either, because that thing again - that
would go off on the nightside for some reason or the
other.

You got an awful lot of RF on nightside of the

Earth.
QUERY

Did you - I guess I don't remember it - I got a question
here on inadvertent operation of the switches and circuit
breakers in reference to the guards.

Were the guards -

proper?
CARR

Sometimes if you succumbed to the temptation of using a
guard for a handrail, you were in danger flicking one of
those little breakers.

We did have a couple of instances

of inadvertent switch operation in the STS area.

One

was the - what was the one you threw one time?
POGUE

The timer, I advanced the day one flick.

CARR

Yes, that's right.

POGUE

I was up there doing something, working with the con­
densate system and I reached over and advanced the day
of the year one.

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�CARR

Also the guards restricted your visibility of the nomen.
clature on the svltch or breaker ,nd

you flnd yourself

Playing this game, trying to check circuit breakers to
see If any one vas open or something like that.
POGUE

QUERY

It was hard to read the - -

We can understand that after looking at the closeout
photographs.

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

For proper position.

CARR

lee, it vas tough, but you've got to protect those dogSone things and that looks like something you Just kind
of have to buy.
QUERY

Were there any failures when lamp tests vere performed!
CARR

POGUE

No.
N°»

I don't recall any.

CARR

* «« fat; that vas a periodic thing; it vas a house-

the lamps and report - report the anomalies and I don't
remember reporting an anomaly vhen I did
remember anybody else reporting anything.

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nor do T

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QUERY

Were any problems encountered because of the proximity
of the rotating litter chair to the power and display
console?

CARR

No.

QUERY

My next question here has to do with the digital address
system.

Did you use it a great deal or - the DAS system

with the switch selectors, would its use - CARR

With switch selectors, let's see, we helped the ground
sometimes when they couldn't get to the switch selectors
to turn the CMG heaters off and on.

And we used it to

help the ground once in a while when we - when they
wanted us to cycle or inhibit doors and motors and things
on the ATM.
POGUE

Not much though.

QUERY

You used it some for problem - troubleshooting problems?

CARR

We didn't have to do much troubleshooting; things were
working pretty well and only once or twice did we go into
malfunction procedures.

S082 A or B door, one of the

doors.
We had a long pass between the door failure and when we
could get to the ground and we went in with a malfunction

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�CARR
(CONT'D)

procedure and fooled with the switch selectors there.
But really the occasions were few and far between. Most
of the DAS usage we got was in relation to the APCS.

We

did a lot of DAS entry work doing maneuvers and things
like that.
POGUE

And monitor, but that's APCS though because we were
monitoring maneuvers.

Ed - Dr. Gibson's given a very

good debriefing on the ATM panel which I'm sure includes
the DAS.

And if you have not seen that, I suggest that

you read that because he's gone into great detail.
There's about a 2-1/2, 3 hour debriefing on the ATM
panel in general.
CARR

This he did up there.
think.

It's on day of the year 19, I

You might ask for those transcripts - very, very

in-depth discourse on the ATM panel.
QUERY

I have some questions, more on lighting again.

Assess

the adequacy of the control and illumination levels via
control panel switches and light integral switches.
This must be ATM adequacy.

CARR

Well, they weren't too terribly adequate, because one by
one they crapped out on us and we had to tape them over
and we ended up with only fixed lighting available to us.

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�CARR
(CONT'D)

Fixed numerical, the fixed integrated died.

We had

neither fixed nor variable integrated, nor did we have
variable numerics.

One of the areas that we wished that

we'd had some sort of a central control panel right at
the ATM was MDA lighting because we found that each of
us liked to have lighting at the MDA different when we
were operating the ATM panel.

And it would have been

nice if we hadn't had to float around and one by one
turn lights on and off at their stations because - POGUE

The closest we had to that was a couple of switches
there on the STS whereby you could turn - turn them on
selectively in groups.

We would like to have had indi­

vidual control at the ATM panel.
QUERY

Did any of the OWS and MDA general illumination bulbs
fail?

Any of them flicker?

This is the fluorescent Job.

CARR

Not a one.

POGUE

No, I was, in fact near the end of the flight, I remember
thinking I expected them to go out and they didn't.

QUERY

Well, I think a lot of people had expected it.

CARR

Yeah.

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�QUERY

I guess we've had a report of a report of one failure
the entire 8-1/2 months.

CARR

And the lighting in general in the workshop was very,
very good, quite adequate.

And in our MU87 habitability

debriefing, there's one question about the lighting and
you can get some in-depth comments from QUERY

I guess if there's a comparison from your previous
answer on incandescent that, you - you like the fluorescent
better than the incandescent?

POGUE

I think so.

CARR

Yeah, in general.

QUERY

Assess the adequacy of the illumination of the OWS C&amp;D
panel.

POGUE

Oh, gosh, fine.

CARR

No problem.

There's lots of light down there in the

experiment compartment.
QUERY

If the portable lights were used, any comments on ease
of usage or the light output. Did you have occasion to
use the other?

I'm not talking about the high-intensity

photo lamps.

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�POGUE

Yeah, I understand.

CARR

I never used them, but Ed did on - -

POGUE

I did and Ed did.

I used

Did you use them any time?

And the biggest problem was finding the

cables, hooking the cables and stringing them up.

And I

think you had to hook the lights on to a universal
photographic - photography mount.
worked.

No problems. They

They - I remember they were sort of awkward.

You bend it around and twist and everything to get the
thing pointed the right way, but then we did that with
the same - that was the problem with mount, not the light.
CARR

Also, in the tech debriefing, we made a pitch for cable
caddies, instead of fooling with all of those utilities
cables that we had that had to be coiled and strapped.
The - the cable caddy is one that you pull on that's got
an inertial lock like a seat belt in your car.

POGUE

And each one of them ought to be pattern coded, or color
coded, so that you know whether you have a utility cable,
a high-power cable, a television, a camera cable, et cetera
et cetera.

Because they are all white, well, of course,

some of them are bigger than the others, but it is nice
to have them that way.

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�QUERY

You'd recommend a color coding?

POGUE

A color coding or a pattern coded.

QUERY

Okay.

Assess the adequacy of the portable high-intensity

photo light.

CARR

They were quite adequate.

They were rather directional

in nature, so they caused shadowing for photographing.
POGUE

I got one big bug-a-boo about the high-intensity light.
Functionally, they were great. The photography was good.
But it - every time I turned those on, I got - was reaching
over and getting a wrong switch and everything.

In a way,

it seemed like you always put the thing in position quick
before you turn it on and you're always facing the front
of it and the switches were always in the back, or hard
to get to.
CARR

Out of sight.

POGUE

Out of sight. It would have been much nicer if the control
would have been easily accessible from the business end of
it.

QUERY

Because that's the end you were always facing.

Speaking of the switches, what operating modes - Do you
recall what operating modes you used?

3U0

�POGUE

Always the high, on.

QUERY

High stop put at half?

CARR

..Yeah.

Both channels, both ...

QUERY

Was there a problem of heat out of thOBe?

POGUE

... heat.

CARR

Yeah, but they sure did some - It sure makes beautiful
light for a photograph.

The documentary photos are all

very well lighted. We were very well pleased.

And the

Ml51 people are very pleased, too, because the light gave
them some real good data, particularly M092.
POGUE

Along that line, another thing too, with these cable
caddies and all, there should be central repository for
placing and stowing these things.

You know, like you'd

have one locker dedicated for all these cable caddies and
so forth.

It was a little bit of a management problem,

in that you didn't know who had had it last and he had
left it - where he had left it and so forth.

We had

a sort of a system, but it was not designed into it.

That

should be designed into it, a locker or something like that.

3Ul

�Have some questions on wire harnesses and installations,
any comments on any electrical equipment or wiring there­
to that appeared to be an annoyance or hindrance to
movement in the workshop.
Well, we had the - you had the - this thing that you did
right near the end where you had the cable stretched
to the airlock.

When we were doing the 516, multipurpose

furnace experiments, 556 and all, a big number of them,
we had the cable stretched through from the OWS dome area
all the way up to around the tape recorder.

But the

reason we had it for the video tape recorder was because
we had taken the power out for the tape recorder and had
hooked up 516 to it. That was a bit of an annoyance.
Yeah, when we put the rate gyro six pack in, when Bean and
his guys put it in, that automatically tied up one - one
high-power outlet.

And so what we had to do in order to

get high power into the MDA for the things that we wanted
was to run a big extension cord in from the dome.
Yeah.

That was a bother.

3U2

�QUERY

Actually, this question was down in the workshop, but
that's good to get those comments, too.

CARR

Oh, I don't remember any annoying wire runs at all down
in the workshop.

POGUE

The only - we had to camera thread - the threading camera
had to have a cable run from a particular position.

Again,

this would have been, I think, adequately taken care of
if we would have had cable caddies, but we're thrashing
around taking them out and putting them in and that sort
of thing.
CARR

The cable runs that bugged us the most are the ones we
had to run ourselves.

QUERY

Yeah, that'd be natural.

Was - and again this was OWS

cable - was any excessive fraying or damage observed to
Fiberglas cloth covers or wire harnesses at penetrations
in the floor or other areas?

CARR

No, they were very well ...

QUERY

One of the other crewmembers said coming out of the waste
management area and something that they used one of the
cables as kind of a handhold and that it did start kind
of wearing somewhere down in — in the living area there.

3U3

�CARH

The only cable that I can think of Is that one right
there by the light switch there on the right-hand side
of the door.

And I didn't notice any problems.

use that for a handhold.
QUERY

I didn't

I used the ... itself.

That's where they come through the floor in the Fiberglas
covers, you don't recall any damage to those?

POGUE

No.

QUERY

Okay.

Did the convoluted boots come loose from any

exposed connectors, in the workshop again?
POGUE

No, not that I know of.

QUERY

Any difficulty with the elect connectors for the food
trays or the urine centrifugal separator?

POGUE

No, except that I - the connector for the urine centrifugal
separator - the power connector, way back in the back there,
was sort of hard to get to and I bad mouthed that way early
in the program, but, of course, in other words, dual con­
nectors, and you only put it in one.
one bus to the other.

It was changing from

And there was a little Dialatch,

a holder for the cable, that was a bit of a nuisance, but
a6 far as the electrical integrity of it, itself, there
was no problem.

3UU

�QUERY

Was the clearance adequate for mating and demating of
connectors on the intercom boxes?

CARR

Again, this is the OWS.

There's two intercom boxes that we played with, the M131
or SIA number 131 had to be changed out and then the
other one down in the experiment compartment by M131.

We

disconnected and connected that up for a documentary
photography and in those cases there were no problems.

QUERY

Now a few miscellaneous questions.

Assess the utility

outlet adequacy, accessibility, number and location of
utility outlets.

POGUE

There's no problem with any of them.

There was no problem

with any of the outlets. It would be nice to have one
more on the minus-Z SAL, because that's where all of
our activity was and we ended up a lot of times having to
un - disconnect certain things in order to connect other
things up.

CARR

That's only - -

Well, see if you had a cable caddy right there for each
one of the outlets - if it had Just - was right into a
cable caddy, then it would have been very handy because
whenever you finish with it, you Just let it go back into
the caddy and what you would do is size your caddy so
that it can make the minus-Z SAL or over to the film
3U5

�CARR
(CONT'D)

threading station or places like that. And it would have
been very - a whole lot more handy that way. The way it
was - the way we used it, you had to string a cable and
you hope that it would stay there and nobody would need
it.

But it never failed, somebody else always needed the

cable and would take it down and use it.

Then you - next

time you wanted to use it there, you'd have to go find the
cable and put it back in.

And this is overhead time that

you don't want to spend in space, stringing cables.
QUERY

You have answered part of this now; I'll just give - Any
problems or comments or problems with replacement of
intercom boxes?

I guess you discovered that you didn't

have any - or heaters. Did you replace any heaters?
POGUE

No, I don't think any of them ever came on.

CARR

Yeah.

QUERY

I know the duct heaters didn't.

CARR

The only heater that we did - did anything to was that
probe into waste - -

POGUE

That's right. We took that out at first and then put it
back in near the end.

3U6

�CARR

And we were prepared to change out the probe on the urine
dump system, but it - it cleared so we didn't have to go
through with that.

QUERY

Any problem encountered with static discharge?

You

talked about it being so dry.

CARP.

Surprisingly enough, there was no static discharge.

QUERY

We haven't had any report previously.

ROGUE

The only time that you got any indication of electro­
statics was when we took off our shirts, you could feel
the hair standing up on your arms, but I never heard
any crackling.

CARR

IJo popping or cracking or anything, but you could sure
make your hair on your arms stand up and on your head as
you pulled the shirt over the top, your hair would Just
go right up sometimes.

QUERY

Was the OWS thermal control system ever checked out?
It's on reference system checklist sheet 9 through 13.
Did you ever - do you recall that you ever checked out
the thermal control system?

POGUE

I don't recall.

And if it's not - if it wasn't in the

checkout and activation - 3U7

�QUERY

This would be the OWS now is what

CARR

Yeah.

POGUE

Yeah.

CARR

Well, I don't remember ever - -

POGUE

Not unless it was in activation.

QUERY

When the Earth terrain camera was operated during EREP
passes, the OWS bus loads increased more than the amount
required for the camera.

Now, we don't have any idea

and we've got a question here.

Can you think of any

associated load that would cause this increase?

I know

that's a hard question for you, but - CARR
QUERY

This is down the OWS?

Whenever you turned the Earth terrain camera on, we always
got a greater load than we had expected from Just the
camera.

POGUE

Well, we've already mentioned that it sounded like a rock
crusher, the shutter motor or whatever it was and we
always felt it wasn't working right, but apparently it
took real good pictures.

31*8

�QUERY

...

I t might have been a hearing problem, increased the

load because of friction?

POGUE

That might be - might be

Could very well be, because other than that, all that Ed
did, that I can recall, is that he would Just go down
through the hatch and look out the wardroom window and
verify the scene and go back up, you know, it's all - all
Just turn the switch on and off.

QUERY

Might be the connection.

How long before each meal were

the food tray heaters turned on?

CARR

Oh, that varied.
tray usually.

We tried to keep it to Just to one food

We would - breakfast and lunch very seldom

did we ever turn the food tray heaters on.

The only

time for lunch that we did it is when somebody had chili
or something - POGUE

Macaroni, something that really required heat and in
order to get it palatable.

CARR

Now supper time, we usually managed to remember about
b o'clock in the afternoon that we needed put our food
in and do something about it.

So we would take the three

frozen items for the evening meal and put it in, usually
in my tray and turn it on.

3U9

And then that tray stayed on

�CARR
(CONT'D)

usually up to and through the meal time and during the
meal when we transferred, divvied up the frozen food,
each guy would turn on his own tray that he put it into.
So we did not use the tray heaters a whole lot.

POGUE

Somebody got a mistaken impression from one of my Ml»87
debriefings.

And if that's still surfaced, I would like

to put that one to bed. I never - apparently made the
statement to the effect that we Just turned the heaters
in the food tray on and left them on, although I qualified
it.

The qualification apparently didn't get through.

The

point was what Jer was saying there, usually we were
forgotten until it was too late we Just stuck them all
in there and turn all the heaters on, rather than put
it in auto and set the timers.
QUERY

This is not associated with something like that. This is
a standard question.

QUERY
POGUE
QUERY
QUERY

We've asked this all three times.

Yeah.

But we did not leave food tray heaters on continuously.
We didn't have it - -

Well,

premission we kind of planned that you would leave,

you know, put your breakfast in like before and set the
timers and the heaters would come on

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�POGUE

I think I remembered twice.

CARR

We Just never operated in that mode.

Most of the re-

hydratable stuff, we rehydrated Just before we ate it.
Some of it wasn't too terribly tasty because we didn't
heat it for a long time.

QUERY

I don't suppose you noticed any degradation in the food
tray heaters since you didn't use them so much you
wouldn't have a feel for them whether it degraded or not.

CARR

Sure didn't.

No, mine were quite adequate at the end of

the mission.

POGUE

Somebody says the water heater was going to pot near the
end.

CARR

But we didn't notice that either.

No, the water was nice and hot, but somebody said that
it looked to them like the water heater was beginning to
crump [?] out.

QUERY

Were the portable circulation fans used during the mission?

CARR/POGUE

Yes.

CARR

We used one fan in the experiment compartment to blow on
the guy pedaling the bike.

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He had the option of turning

�CARR
(CONT'D)

that on if he wanted to.

And we used another one up at the

dome hatch to try to move air from the dome area on to the
OWS heat exchangers.
POGUE

And we, at first and at the - we had the one up there
running on the - no, I guess that was Just the normal
diffuser on the rate gyro package.

CARR

Then you had your rate gyro cooling fan running when we
got there and when we left, we left it running.

We set

it up and left it running again.
QUERY

It didn't run during the mission?

CARR

No.

POGUE

No.

QUERY

Did you take it down?

CARR

Oh, yes.

POGUE

Yes.

CARR

Oh, yes, it was in the way.

POGUE

Mounted on ATM floor grid.

QUERY

When operating the ATM C&amp;D, was it noticeable if the MDA
vail heaters cycled?

Could you tell us that they were

cycling by sitting at the ...?

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�POGUE

I couldn't tell.

CARR

I sure couldn't either.

QUERY

When passing through the airlock, was it noticeable when
the ATM wall heaters were on?

Could you get a feel for

the - CARR

No, could never have told you if they were on. Did they
ever come on?

Does your data tell you if they ever came

on?
QUERY

The A ...

QUERY

AM wall heaters did.

CARR

Did they?

QUERY

Oh yeah, yeah, they were on.

QUERY

The AM we didn't have any street [?] on.

The MDA we

followed pretty closely, but the AM are, you know
15 different little heaters individually controlled.
Sometimes when we'd inhibit them from the ground, like
during the EREP pass, we'd try to watch the current and
get an idea of how many of them were actually on at that
time.
POGUE

When you turn them on.
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�QUERY

And it was very difficult for us to tell if they were
ever cycling, but we expected them to kind of follow the
same cycle pattern as the MDA's which we could track.
But we never really could get a confirmation of whether
they were burning or not.

Relative to the small individual

loads, the half amp each, it would be difficult to see
one of them coming off and on, but we thought when we
commanded them off and on we should be able to see it but
we never ...
CARR

POGUE

We sure didn't know they were - -

You know it would be nice in the future when you have the
sad thing was a little liquid crystal thing in a little
parallel shunt line, something that Just takes no power
at all but gives a positive indication, low-power drain.

QUERY

When you guys were working the EREP passes during the day,
a lot of times we came to you and you remember the reg
adjust box that were up there on the STS panels?

A lot

of times we would come to you and have you adjust those
things twice a day ... after each EREP and sometimes even
three times a day and we did this quite frequently and we
had kind of a minor war going in the MOCR over this;
but from your point of view did having to do this quite
frequently - did that pose any kind of annoyance to you?
35^

�CARR

It was a minor nuisance.

POGUE

It was particularly an annoyance for Ed when he was workr

ing ATM.
CARR

Yeah.

QUERY

Yeah, we could have minimized that, but, you know, every
time we called up to you you guys seemed so cheerful to
do it. (Laughter) I don't know if you Just - -

POGUE

You didn't hear the background comment.

QUERY

That's obvious.

POGUE

No, it was no problem.

CARR

It was a minor annoyance.

I guess it bugged Ed more than

us because sometimes he'd get into an ATM program he was
working on and one day the CAP COMM would come up with a
reg adjust and you could almost hear him grumble and a lot
of times Bill and I would try to get up there and do it
so he wouldn't have to get up there and fool with it.
POGUE

The thing is, we were so delighted that the ground took
such good care of the system, we didn't mind doing that
kind of thing.

CARR

Yeah, it was no big thing.

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�POGUE

Here's one suggestion.

It would have really helped and

it's sort of a suggestion for future designs, to have a
movable scale underneath this thing for rereferencing.
Man, we had so many pencil marks on that thing, you know.
We'd erase it.
QUERY

That was my next question.
end up with?

CARR

We got almost down to the metal.

(Laughter)

How many marks did you guys

I think every time ... mark it.

We usually had about a half dozen marks on it, but every
once in a while you'd Just wipe the slate clean and start
over.

POGUE

Yeah, if you could have Just had a little circular index
under there that you could have rotated around, say now
zero and now I said 30 degrees to the right well the thing
is - or 15 degrees or 7-1/2.

We never did - very, very

seldom - we'd get it right the first time.

If we'd had

a very good scale down here, I think we could have minimized
that.
QUERY

For about the first week we had to ask you for re ...,
but seemed like after that you guys kind of had a calibrated
eye on that.

You usually hit it right off the bat, the

first time.

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&amp;

QUERY

That concludes; thank you, gentlemen.

CARR

Okay.

QUERY

Okay, thank you, Al.

QUERY

Now you guys can all stay if you like there is plenty of
room and there is no problem.

3

QUERY

What's next?

QUERY

Crew systems EVA and inflight maintenance.

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�QUERY

Okay.

We have Dick Heckman from Marshall and Hoot Gibson,

of course you know, from JSC

you have some more

questions you want to take care of ...?
QUERY

Yes.

I'll - i'n cover the crew provision - equipment

first.

The cuffs on the Skylab Jackets - Do you all con­

sider them necessary or they're Just a luxury?
CARR

You mean the knitted cuffs?

QUERY

Yes.

CARR

Yes, no.
(Laughter)

POGUE

Now, wait a minute, now.
the overcuffs.

I like - I didn't like the -

And the knitted cuff was too tight for me

to get my watch through; that's the reason I didn't like
it.
QUERY

I liked the idea.

It Just turned out, on my - -

... too tight.

POGUE

particular Jacket, I ended up cutting - taking
scissors and cutting the solid overcuffs.
I'm talking about?

QUERY

Yes.

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You know what

�POGUE

And then the sweat shirt knitted-cuff-type underneath,
bothered rae a little bit because of the - of the watch.

CARR

I don't think that's something you really need to legislate
That's kind of personal preference.

I know if you've got -

got the capability of putting them in the design, just ask
the crewman what he wants.
QUERY

Okay ...

CARR

But I - I liked them.

It kept the sleeves from riding up

too much on me and the trouser legs from riding up, and so
I liked them.

But these guys found them to be somewhat

of a hindrance.
POGUE

I was more put out with them on the trousers than I was
on the sleeves of the Jackets, because I couldn't take my
trousers off without taking my shoes off, you know,
undressing for PT.

CARR

But let's face it.

If you do them, somebody's going to

bitch; if you take them off, somebody's going to bitch.
QUERY

The other crews - the other crews took them off.

CARR

Yes.

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�QUERY

Second queston:

That HP-35 calculator - Did you have to -

ever have to recharge it?
POGUE

He kept it plugged in.

CARR

Yes, he kept it plugged in at the ATM all the time for use,
and just - you know, the little recharge module?

He

just kept it connected all the time.
QUERY

Hmmm.

QUERY

Did he have - Did he have any troubles - any problems there
with the recharge?

CARR

Not to my knowledge.

POGUE

It's still sitting right there.

CARR

. . . - yes, that's right; it's still sitting right there.

It worked - -

All we did was pull the plug on i t .
QUERY

Could you estimate about how many hours you put on that
thing?

POGUE

I didn't put too much - -

CARR

Ed was probably pretty much the big user of it.

POGUE

I counted my fingers testing the device.

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�(Laughter)
It was a nice device.
With respect to the hard toothpaste tubes, what resupply
kit did you get those out of?

Was it the one ... or was it

one of the ones you took out of one of the other, earlier
...?
Well, you didn't send any supply kit up with us that I
know of.
Okay.
Yes.

We - -

We sent one up on SL-3.
And that's the one we used.

It had about two or

three tubes in it that were hard as bricks.

And poor old

unlucky Ed was the guy who would select that tube of
toothpaste every time, and I couldn't understand why he
was in there grunting and squeezing on the toothpaste
tube.

And I just worked mine ... - -

But it is the one we took from SL-3?
Yes.
Okay.

Garment pockets - You had a lot to say in the

debriefing.
Yes.

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�QUERY

In the tech debriefing.

Was there some unique problem

in flight that we CARR

No.

QUERY
CARR

No, ... just as soon as we got them over in the trainer.
Nobody did anything about it.

POGUE

Specify which pockets you mean, now, Hoot.

CARR

We're talking about ...

QUERY
POGUE
CARR

Yes ... they were already made.
They were already made and being packed in the workshop.
It was too late to do anything.

This was all done at the

last minute.
POGUE

Now, it was even earlier than that.

When we first started

wearing those over there in the minisims, the little pocket
in the front which was really - would have been nice to use
for a flashlight, we couldn't use it for a flashlight.

And

if I was - If I remember correctly, I asked the garment man
about it, and he said that wasn't really made for a
flashlight; it was made for pencils.

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And that that was

�POGUE
(CONT'D)

why the flashlight didn't fit in it, because it looked
Just right for a flashlight, except the little cover the flap wasn't long enough.

QUERY

Okay.

I think we need to get back and talk with y'all more

in detail on design ... - POGUE

We made beaucoup comments on ... - -

QUERY

- - . . . s e e i t was my impression t h a t we had not received
any comments in that area.

So, we'll - we'll get back with

you in detail on that.
POGUE

Okay,

QUERY

Okay.

Yesterday, you had - Bill, you had mentioned that

when you - with respect to the goggles - you - put too
much antifog on them.
POGUE

The visor.

QUERY

No, the goggles - the goggles; you know, on this M509?

POGUE

— No, I didn't put any antifog on the goggles.

I'm

sorry; I mislead you.
QUERY

Okay.

Well, there is some distortion in those goggles and

I thought maybe it might've been from that.

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�POGUE

No.

QUERY

Is it - Was it just

POGUE

That's just the way they were.

QUERY

those goggles?

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

Okay.

CARR

The darn thing would clog up on you too.

You'd work up

any kind of a sweat and your goggles would fog up.

And if

you - you look at some of the pictures and movies, you'll
see I did a lot of the flying without them, or I had
them up on my forehead.

You'd get started and the darn

things would fog in on you, and you'd just have to pull
them up out of the way.
POGUE

The - the subject could go - get by without using them.
The observer - As a safety precaution, I've used them,
even after I got a GO for taking them off when I was the
sub - the subject to avoid getting dust in the eyes when
impinging the thruster - impingement from the thruster.

QUERY

Okay.
EMU.

Now the next questions are relating to the EVA and
On your suits, how wet did they get during the

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�QUERY
(CONT'D)

EVAs?

Did you - could you differentiate between the

wetness of them before you put them on and then afterwards?
CARR

Well, yes.

I think they were all wetter, you know, when

you took them off.

There - It was a certain amount of

sweating going on in there.

I have always been the low

sweater in our - in our bunch, and my suit was never as wet
as the others.

Ed always does the most sweating, and

after an EVA, his suit was the wettest.

The reason why

I know all this is because I'm the guy that always did
the suit drying and the suit - the PGA work in the post-EVA.
Bill's was in between.

It always impressed me that the

guy who was EV-3, the guy who stayed inside, was usually
wetter than when he went outside on an EVA.

It seems that

when you're in the closed suit and you've got the whole
loop going, you stay drier than you do if you're just
in the - in the suit with LCG running and standing at the
ATM.
QUERY

Do you think that the desiccants that we had would've
been sufficient without the suit drying using the blower?

CARR

I don't have any feel for that or not.

I never - never -

It never was clear to me that the desiccants did anything;
the suit was already plenty dry before you ever put the

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�CARR

desiccants in.

And, of course, the desiccant - there

was no color change or anything.

They were all sewed

in a opaque bag - little sausage - QUERY

. . . primarily to maintain their dryness.

CARR

Yes.

POGUE

If you're saying would you - If you're asking could you

And - -

have dried them with the desiccant alone, I'd say no.
CARR

Yes.

I couldn't say that.

I wouldn't know - I don't

know how good a desiccant you got.
any judgment whatsoever on that.

I - I couldn't make

But I'll tell you one

thing, those desiccants were a pain in the neck to put
in the fecal ovens, because you really had to work some­
times to get a seal on the oven.
POGUE

Another thing, too, that's - When you put the desiccants
in the suit, instead of - It would have been nice to have
a little retention device or something.

I put them in the*

once and went to all the trouble of putting them down
the sleeve and in the leg and - And then Ed came along and
got that suit out and it all shaped around and realigned
themselves down the feet or something.

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�QUERY

Was there ever any noticeable increase in cooling - Well,
let's see; this was to the - Okay.
you or Ed.

It could have been to

This is concerning the - the water leakage

that we had on the PCU/LSU ...

Was there ever any notice­

able increase in cooling when you were in EVA NORM and had
noticed the water leak prior to diverter valve change?
CARR

No, I don't think so, and I don't think Ed mentioned it
either.

We knew we had the leak, you know, and the water

was gone, but we had never impacted - hadn't impacted the the suit LSU cooling system enough to where we were being
hurt.

In my case, we found later, you know, that a lot

of the water was gone out of the LSU system, but,
apparently, we hadn't lost enough so that it affected
my suit cooling.

And the big thing that ... kept bugging

me about was to keep - to try to keep my coolant loop
cooler, because it appeared that I was - the delta-T across
my gas loops was not what the medics liked.

But we didn't

notice any funny changes in the temperature in the suit
at all.

And on Ed's case, there near the end the ground

said, get your suit cooling down to the lowest level,
because we're going to - we're afraid we're going to
loose the loop, and so Ed, essentially, put himself on
gas cooling.

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�QUERY

Did he notice his gas being cooler?

Did he ever - did he

mention ...?
CARR

No, he said it was getting hot in there, and he - he - -

QUERY

Okay.

He didn't notice that his gas coming - coming over

his head, just the direct flow there?
CARR

I never heard anything about that from him.

I don't think

so.

O

QUERY

Okay.

CARR

Now I - I noticed - in fact, I debriefed this on occasion on one occasion, and that is that - this was on EVA number 3,
when I was the guy in the airlock module - I made - made
one note that when I get into a big flurry of activity,
you know, most of the time I was fairly quiet, but every
once in a while, I'd have to do a lot of things, and I
could feel my heat load building up.

And then I could

feel it get transferred to the gas, and I felt the gas was
much warmer.

And then - I felt like the thermal inertia

of the system had a fairly long time constant, because I
could feel - feel that I was storing heat and then I was
transferring more to the air than to the liquid, and I
could feel the - the gas in there with me was fairly warm.

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�CARR
(CONT'D)

And then after a few minutes, 5 or so minutes, things
would have moved back into equilibrium again.

But I

seemed to have a - a heat constant that changed quicker
than the system did.
could feel it.

And I - made note of the fact that I

And I was asking - In fact, in one of the

private medical conferences, I asked the doctors if they
had any indications that - that I was storing heat and
that the system was taking a little time to get it out
again later.

And they said they looked at it and they

didn't - they couldn't tell too much about that at all.
But I am a heat storer compared to Ed and Bill.
Bill sweat quicker than I do.

Ed and

I seem to store the heat

for a longer period of time before I break a sweat and
start cooling off by evaporative cooling.

I do that

athletically around here, and I did it in the suit too.
And that's why I think my suit was a whole lot drier.
QUERY

Did you notice a change in thermal environment as you
went from day to night, looking at it from a heat-leak
standpoint?

CARR

Yes, yes.

QUERY

You could?

You could tell.

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�CARR

Yes.

You could tell that things cooled right down as

soon as it got dark.

You could feel the - the radiant

heating from the - When I was out on the Sun end especially,
I could feel the heat - Just like you stand out on pavement
oomewhere, when the Sun hits the pavement and reflects
back on you - I felt the same thing at the Sun end when I
was working there.
POGUE

You can really notice it if you're in the FAS and moving
your hands in and out ... contrast.

QUERY

Did you know the FCS was used as a comfort pad rather than
a FCS?

CARR
QUERY

Yes.

Do you feel like that you would need one for a 6-hour EVA?

CARR

No, I went 7 hours and never needed one.

QUERY

Would you feel comfortable in going out, you know, ...
for a planned EVA?

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

Say 6 hours or 7 hours without that?

CARR

Yes.

I never - I never wore the FCS.

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I always

�POGUE

Never wore it.

CARh

95 percent of the time in training, I did not wear it, and
I didn't wear it in flight, because I didn't need that
kind of comfort. I had no crotch distress because I had
a good suit fit.

And I had no distress in that area that -

that made me feel I needed the - the padding.

QUERY

Did you ever notice any uncomfortable surface temperatures
when you came in contact with the vehicle, in other words,
with your hands or feet?

CARR

Not uncomfortable.
the glove.

When you -

You could feel hot places through

You could feel that this one - this thing's

a little warmer than something else.

But there were no

extremes that caused any discomfort of any kind.

Did you

have any?

POGUE

No, same - same observation.

QUERY

One time there you mentioned, in prep or some time
earlier, that one of you had grown, physically - length
lengthwise.

POGUE

Oh.

QUERY

Did that seem to restrict your suit mobility or cause any
pressure points?

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�Just getting in and out.

Yes.

It was — it was really tough.

We had the same

problem the other guys did, and that was bending - bending
our trunks enough to get in.

It - Up there in zero g,

apparently, the back muscles all stiffen up some and you're
not as limber, and I'm still having trouble touching the
floor now when I've got gravity to help pull my trunk
over.

I'm still working on my muscles in the back of my

legs and my hips and back to get limber enough to touch
the floor with the palm of my hands like I used to be able
to do.

And we found it didn't take long at all until it

was difficult to bend over enough to work your way into
the suit.

And, of course, when you've got to stress the

suit that hard, we began to worry about the two ends of
'"he zippers for fear we would damage those things.
the LPGs we wore were - Well, I

WOre

And

Paul Weitz's, and

Paul Weitz is a bigger guy than I am.

And I had a lot

of extra stuff in that suit with me, which was very
uncomfortable.

It got in the way, but pressure points

due to the lengthening seemed to work out okay because it
didn't catch me in the crotch.
pressure.

It was all heel-to-shoulder

And as soon as we pressurized, the heel-to-

shoulder pressure was gone and I felt quite comfortable in
suit.

And my suit - with all the bulk of the LCG in

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�CARR
(CONT'D)

with me, I had a good fit around the chest, so I had good
trunk mobility, I felt.

I wasn't rattling around in my

suit.
QUERY

One final question.

Do you believe that separate mobile

legs on the EV suit are necessary for working EVA; that
is, except for foot restraints, an attachment for the
separate legs used during EVA?
CARR

Separate mobile legs?

In other words - -

QUERY

Yes.

Like - like we've got.

CARR

Yes.

In other words, the other choice is ... - -

QUERY

As opposed t o Just a . . .

QUERY

A mummy-log-type thing.

MS
CARR

Oh, heavens, yes.
(Laughter)

CARR

I wrapped my legs arouhd things and I straddled things out
out there to hold on, especially on that EVA where I
was taking those movies.
then.

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I was doing all sorts of things

�POGUE

Not to mention all the body English you use.

You use

inertia of the legs a lot of times to torque yourself
around, you don't even realize unless you're using them.
CARR

Yes.

POGUE

Man, don't ever let anybody ... for that.

QUERY

(Laughter)

QUERY

Legs then - legs then definitely do have a use in a ... -

CARR

Oh, yes.

QUERY

Right.

CARR

I did a lot of straddling, where I'd wrap my legs around

Yes.

something, then let go with my hands.
QUERY

...

CARR

Okay.

QUERY

On EVA, in the lock compartment, did you feel the ventdown

Do you have any more?

That's a l l we have.

Thank you

rate in the manual valve control that you have is satis­
factory?
CARR

Any comments at all on that?

Yes, I think so.

I think that we — we wasted some time.

It took - took a little - sometimes, I felt like it took
too much time to vent down.

The - Actually, the repress

was the thing that I felt took too much time.
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The

�CARR
(CONT'D)

venting down - I was kind of grateful that it went slow,
because I - I had to work hard to keep my ears clear due
to the congestion - the blood engorgement of my tissue in
my membrane - in the nasal and ear areas.

But I think

we could probably go with bigger - bigger valves with more
controllability, so that if everybody was clear and could
do it, you'd go ahead and open it wide and do it fast,
instead of wasting so much time just laying there while
it, you know, dribbles out through a little valve.

Of

course, I think you'd probably - the bigger your valve,
then you'd have to go more towards the - the screen routine
that we had where you had one screen that worked for a
while and then you'd remove it when the ice built up to
a given level and go to the next screen.
QUERY
POGUE
QUERY

Okay.

a good fix.
Do you feel that the foot restraints, such as we had for
ATM, are adequate for the type of tasks that we had there,
or do you feel that there might be some tasks where you
might need additional restraints beside the foot restraints,
such as a waist restraint or anything like that?

Can

you think of anything where the foot restraints wouldn't
do - -

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�CARR

No, the places where we used the foot restraints - they'd
had enough work done on them so that they were in the
right place.

There was one restraint in the FAS that

bothered both Bill and Ed.

Their foot kept coming out

of it.
POGUE

I think it was my right one that kept coming out.

CARR

It seemed to me Ed was having trouble with - -

POGUE

I don't think that was as much a function of the foot
restraint as it was of the individual body posture that
resulted from trying to move yourself to face the task
at hand.

I think that maybe a little bit more work can be

done with those foot restraints, but I don't know what.
I can't suggest it.

It seems like that it's such - it's

a very, very close tolerance thing.

I had trouble in

the water tank at Marshall with that foot, and I had
trouble with the same foot in flight.

It's just exactly

the same.
CARR

It was really pretty much the same for me too, in the
ones that I fooled with.
the same as in flight.

The water tank was pretty much
I didn't have much trouble

because I didn't have any - any work - much work to
do in the FAS area.

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�QUERY

The FAS area had much more of a reach envelope
requirement - -

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

- - more than we intended because of the additional stuff
that we were taking out too.

I know Ed mentioned in the

technical debriefing that the methods of transferring of
equipment - why, we had the booms; we had the clotheslines;
and we also had manual transfer.

Do you feel that the

manual transfer i s a good method, and do you feel that i t ' s
satisfactory for something like, say, the S052 camera or
camera, one or the other cameras like that?
CARR

Sure.

QUERY

. . . be okay?

CARR

Yes, I think i t ' s okay as a backup.

I think - I think the

boom was a - is a very good piece of equipment.

It was

very handy, and we could move gear from one place to
another very quickly and smartly.
POGUE

But I think in moving the foot restraint around for the
193 repair - that was a good test of that particular task.

CARR

Yes.

3TT

�QUERY

Yes, for - for equipment like that there's no problem of
damage - when you have lenses and things like that on
camera - I guess that's one of the reasons we went to
those, and do you feel that you'd be able to work with
fairly sensitive equipment without some kind of a separa­
tion of the crew transfer and the equipment transfer ...?

POGUE

As long as we had a good palpate for it, or something like
that.

QUERY

Okay.

POGUE

I ' d be - I ' d be more concerned about . . . antennas and
stuff like that.

CARR

Yes.

CARR

We were - we were very pleasantly surprised by our mobility
along the EVA trail, the fact that we could move so quickly
from one place to another.

I could make it from the center

workstation into the FAS in less than a minute, just really
hustling right along, and once we got rid of the buoyancy
problem like we had in the buoyancy trainer, it was really
very, very easy to do.

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�QUERY

We spent a fair amount of time working on the tactile
and visual feedback in, particularly, the ATM cameras,
detents, flags, hardstops, and so forth like that; would
you comment on that, perhaps?

CARR

I think that was good work.

You - you could feel when

those cameras went home, and you could feel them latch
in.

And those are good feelings, because then you're

willing to let go of it when you know that it - it's being
retained.

I think that that time was well spent.

QUERY

Okay.

You don't feel that we went too far?

CARR

Not at all.

QUERY

Did you find any latch or handle forces that you felt
were either too high or too low?

This is, again, mainly

the ATM retrieval area.
CARR

No.

Again, you folks worked the trainer over to the point

to where, when we got up there, there just weren't any
surprises.

The only surprise up there was that S082 door

that hung up - the 82B.

And - But as far as latches and

handles and things, everything up there felt the same as
it did in the water.

The only thing that was different

was the buoyancy problem, you know, that - that we had

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�CARR
(CONT'D)

with the water.

And we fought it all the time, and we

knew it was going to bother us.

And it was such a

pleasure not to sweat buoyancy up there, that it made our
mobility much better.

You could move along the EVA trails

Just hustling - hand over hand, Just like this.
felt very comfortable doing it.

And you

You know, you hit the

straightaway once you get beyond the twin pole sail; it
was nothing Just to whistle right on out there.

And you

remember all the trouble I had getting into the transfer
workstation?

It was nothing; you Just swing right down

and, clunk, your feet went in.

And once you Just got rid

of the buoyancy problem, it was Just a piece of cake.
QUERY

Okay.

On lighting, could you comment on the - I think

that we've got pretty good comments from you on the
lighting at the workstations, how about the SI93 area?
And if you have any comments on the workstations, any
additional ones, fine.
POGUE

The lighting was completely adequate.

On the day - when

the dayside - of course, that was supposedly on the sha­
dowed portion, but plenty of lights.

No problem at all.

And at night, we even played with the flashlights trying
to find this ttylar that supposedly Jammed in this ... and

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�POGUE
(CONT'D)

trying to convince myself it was or wasn't in there and
using the flashlight. It's amazing - what we actually
did - That was a fairly good exercise and in - in - indi­
cative of EVA capability.

QUERY

Did you get much scattering from adjacent structure and
from the suits on the Sun side into shaded areas?

Was

that - did that give you pretty good - into these areas
where we didn't have lighting, particularly?

Did you

have ... - CARR

Yeah, I don't remember there being any dark holes that
I couldn't see into.

There was always enough scattered

light in there that you could see.
QUERY

Thank you.

CARR

These guys working on the other side of the workshop had
so much earthshine, they had no problem at all seeing
anything, either.

QUERY

Bill, are you saying that you had plenty of light in the
S193 area?

POGUE

Yes, sir.

CARR

In the daylight.

That's what I'm saying.

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�POGUE
QUERY

. . . one of the debriefings where you didn't - you - you
didn't have - -

CARR

I think he was talking about night where we had - there
were no fixed lights - -

POGUE

There are no lights in that area.

CARR

And our pitch is, don't ever lull yourself into thinking
that there's no place that you'll ever go around the
work - around the vehicle on EVA, because we've already
proved several times that there's no way you can legislate
that somebody will not go somewhere on EVA.

POGUE

And it should - lighting should be provided, so that you
can work full day/night cycle EVA in an - any area exter­
nal to the vehicle.

QUERY

But - yeah, we - I hope -I'm sorry if we gave you the
impression - -

POGUE
CARR

Yeah, that's too bad.

that it's poorly lighted in that area during the day­
light pass, because it was well lighted.

It's the night­

time when they had to get the flashlights out and work.
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�POGUE

Point ... was that it had been earlier legislated that
there would be no EVA done on EREP.

So then that Justi­

fied not putting any .light over there, and we said, don't
ever do that again.

CARR

Yeah - -

POGUE

And that was our recommendation.

CARR

- - ... don't legislate that sort of thing.
already done it in Shuttle.

They've

They've already legislated

that there are certain places you'll never go, and we
said, hogwash.

You can make it a design goal, but you

better face the facts and put some lights in such a way
that you can use them if you need them.

QUERY

How about portable lights?

CARR

Yeah.

POGUE

That's - There's a good case to be made for them.

QUERY

There's another - of course, it's something else to handle
and take care of, and fixed lights would probably be
better.

POGUE

Oh, but what about putting them on your sleeve, and I can
Just envision all kinds of good space lanterns.

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You know,

�POGUE
(CONT'D)

I mean, you would have one right up there.

In fact, we

had the - the medical (laughter) light for working in
the - down in the scuppers - plenum area.

The trouble is

that you can't hold a flashlight in your mouth while
you're EVA, otherwise - QUERY

(Laughter)

CARR

It kind of limits your suit integrity.

I tried to scratch

my nose several times ...
QUERY

What you're saying is you'd like a suit-mounted, PGAmounted light.

POGUE

Why not?

CARR

Yeah.

P0GUE

You kn°w&gt;

Why not?

Why not?

something?

have some kind of integral light in the helmet or
I mean, I don't know.

That's your area.

QUERY

Have you - you been talking to the Russians again?

POGUE

No.

Either that or Just put like Jack plug boxes or Junction
boxes around the workshop or around whatever the vehicle
is.

But you go out with a portable light like you have

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CARR
(CONT'D)

in your garage to put on the car.

And you go out and

you mount the light somewhere, and you plug it in.
POGUE

There's only one thing about that - and remember that
there are - you could always get yourself in a position,
suited, where you're looking into the light.

That's why

you're always going to have a need for an auxiliary
portable light.
QUERY

Do you have any comments on handrails, handholds, any reach
envelopes that we had, other than you mentioned, that
probably because of some reach, you had some trouble with
putting one foot in the FAS?

Any other comments on gen­

eral reach on the nominal EVA area?
POGUE

Yeah, I have.

The - You tried to standardize the geometry

of the handhold. I don't think that was quite achieved.
It looked to me like there was variations in the size of
the handhold.
that's good.

That's noble target - noble goal; I think
It screwed us up using the - the camera mounts.

Some of the times it would make it flop around and Jiggle.
And sometimes you couldn't get the lock closed.

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That's a

�POGUE
(CONT'D)

whole other area to talk about.

There was one other

thing.

Oh, please give us great big numbers on the hand­

holds.

You're talking about F-7 and all that.

You're

looking all over; it takes 15 minutes to find F-7, for
crying out loud.
CARR

We could never remember where they were.

We'd always

have to go look for the number.
POGUE

Great big numbers, for people that are over Uo.

No, it's

Just - there's Just no sense, I mean, you got all that
space there, why not put great big number there and put
one, instead of putting that little tiny?

)

CARR

No sense in wasting time looking for a handrail, when
you're outside.

POGUE

That time's too valuable.

And another - another case finding it, the paint fades.
It's got to be a very high contrast thing.

QUERY

Which handrails faded?

CARR

Everything out in the direct Sun, faded.
toward green.

POGUE

Yeah.

MS

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r

Turned more

�QUERY

Some of them were anodized.

And - -

CARR

Well, even the anodized ones turned toward a green.

POGUE

Sure did.

QUERY

Yes.

They - they should lighten.

We expected that they

would probably lighten some.
CARR

They sure did.

QUERY

Because of the fact they were anodized.

CARR

And if they're aluminum that was unanodized or it was
anodized so that it still had a satin finish, it turned
more toward a yellow.

And that - that all stands to

reason; you take blue and add yellow, and it goes toward
a green.

And if it's unpainted or untinted, it will go

toward a yellow.
'QUERY

Do you feel you needed - that you lost contrast in the
handrails and that that was not a good -

CABR

Well, as far as finding the handrail, it was - there was
no problem there.

But seeing the number, the little F-7

or the F-5 or something on the handrail, was difficult.
But the handrails we had, I thought were perfectly ade­
quate.

The EVA trail was excellent; we just - no problems

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CARR
(CONT'D)

with that whatsoever.

The trouble is, the EVA trail

didn't go far enough; and when we had to go around to
193, that was a different ball game.

And the guys that

went down and pulled that wing out
POGUE

Another thing that you might think about, Dick:

you know

that foot mount that I took down there for that 193.

I -

I watched Jer and Ed work in training, working the - Was
it Q02hl

And this - there's a good argument to be made

for being able to take the foot restraint and putting it
around on trussworks and so forth.

In other words, have

some kind of universal mounting capability for a foot
restraint, because watching them work on - on that partic­

o

ular one was Just - You know, you'd Just sit there, and
it - you'd get a - build up a frustration case yourself,
Just watching the other guy.

That's such a poor purchase

on - in the area.
QUERY

Okay.

I think we've covered the clotheslines versus

film-transfer booms in the tech debrief pretty well unless
you have any other comments.

You did get some entangle­

ment which was - CARR

Which can be dangerous, and that's - -

QUERY

- - what we were worried about.

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�- - the biggest disadvantage of the clothesline. It's
not only a nuisance, but it can be dangerous.
You mentioned that you did have that sticking problem
with the pin on the Sun-end clothesline boom when you
handed ... - Yes.

It wasn't as bad as I had in the water, but my first

yank, I said, "Aw, heck, here we go again, Just like This thing's Just like the simulator."
the other hand over there.

And then I got

And because I had no buoyancy

problem, I was able to better position myself.

And when

I heaved a little harder on it, it popped right out.

But

positioning helped a great deal there.
There was some comment, and I think it was Ed that had
some problem with the Velcro on the clothesline stowage
box.

Do you know anything about that, Jer?

Oh, it was tough.

He really had to pull on that. That

was about all there was to it.
Yes.

He Just - -

Just -

You know, you get that old sloppy Velcro under water, and
it gets real loosey-goosey

and it comes right off.

And

up there the Velcro was holding the way it was designed,
and he had to really yank on it.

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POGUE

Yes.

I've got a comment to make on those umbilical

clamps.
tank.

CARR

POGUE

I - I didn't - never did like those in the water

I didn't like them up there.

They weren't any better up there.

You know, it's just like you - they'd come up slightly
underdesigned - in size, geometry.

And they'd Just say,

well, if they've got them, use them.
impression I always got.

That's - that's the

The thing that - You'd open it

up and get ready to put the hose in position, and the
thing would slide back down on its own, you know.

It was

always a bit of an irritation to work it.

1

CARR

Might have been better to go with a clamp - like you ha-e
the clothesline clamps up there, those clothesline hooks
for pulling them tight.

Just that sort of a broom-clip

thing might have been Just as good for the umbilicals.
You never put that much strain on it - to hurt anything.
POGUE

CARR

POGUE

You'd want it to pull out, anyway.

Yes.

Either that - What is it,.eleat!
used on a ship or a boat?

1

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Is that a thing that's

�QUERY

Yes.

That would get pretty big if you have an umbilical of

any great amount.
CARR

Yes.

QUERY

With any radius in it.

CARR

It looks like one time there was a clamp on the S230 exper­
iment up there that was placed in a position to shadow to shadow the collection foil and to give them a little
sort of a calibration of shadow.

And it appears that

our umbilical at one time or another went by there and
flipped that thing off, and we never saw it go.
looks like it must have happened on EVA-3

And it

because we

have photographs of the clip in place and then when I
went out to retrieve the clip, it wasn't there on the
next EVA.

QUERY

On the - Do you have any way that you think that EVA
prep and post times would be reduced at all?

That's

really kind of CARR

Oh, yes.

Yes.

By designing a spacecraft that - that is

better designed for EVA, you can - you can cut that prep
and post down a lot.

We spent an awful lot of time put­

ting tinker toys and erector sets together and lashing
them down the airlock module and then after the thing was

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�CARR
(CONT'D)

over, taking them apart and putting them away.

And in

our tech debrief, we discussed the idea that the EVA lock
Bhould not be between two living areas.
isolate two living areas.
where.

You should not

It should be on the end some­

And it should be located in such a manner,

designed in such a manner, that the stuff that you're
going to use on EVA is stowed in it, with lockers and
things right in there, so that you don't have to be taking
things apart and putting them together and stowing them
in a high-traffic area.
POGUE

Reconfiguring ECS ducts, taking that elephant trunk out,
putting it back in, and all that other nonsense; all that
took time.

CARR

POGUE

CARR

Yes.

The suits - There's a lot overhead in suit prep.

Stowage was the ...

And stowage of suits.
the suits.

There's no good stowage area for

You know, that - that game we had to play of

moving the suits up into the MDA and stowing it underneath
the foot restraints for the ATM panel in little nooks and
crannies was not too terribly sterling.
time is Just costly to you.

All that overhead

The - That was really the

main thing; we spent so much time putting things together
and prepping them that -

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�POGUE

I guess that - No.

I was going to say that traffic -

you know, getting ready, going to the sleep compartment,
coning up, getting radiation dosimeter, and all that I suppose there's no way to avoid a lot of that.

But

there's - Just relocating the airlock would have elimina­
ted a lot of the wasted time.
QUERY

Okay.

The S082A and B overcans, the big Jerry cans,

didn't have a lot of lead-in on the guides; they were a
fairly close fit, whereas the S082A and B cameras in the
canister had quite a bit of lead-in.

Could you comment

at all on - on differences or any difficulties in inser­
ting the cameras into the 82A and B?
CARR

There was no problem.

I know in the procedures we always

had a little comment in there about making sure they were
flush before you tried to close the door, and that Just
never - never reared up.

It was always straightforward;

they'd Just slide right in and you - they'd be flush and
you could lock it up.

No problem.

QUERY

Visibility was good both places, and - -

CARR

Yeah.

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�QUERY

- - so you didn't really need quite all the amount of
flaring that we put on the - on the 82A and B cameras,
perhaps, and in the canisters.

CARR

Yeah, that's right.

But I tell you, it's easier to - to

design your stuff with a good lead-in and flare and all
that in the beginning than it is to find out it's a little
too snug and you're going to have to redesign it later.
QUERY

And I guess Ed was the only person that used the replace­
ment workstation foot restraint, when he went up and got
the clotheslines.

And maybe we can catch him later and

just see how that compared and what he thought of that
typical - that particular method of restraining the feet.
CARR

Oh, yeah.

Well, he put one foot in it, and it came out

again in a little while.
QUERY

Yeah.

CARR

Of course, I was right there, right next to his foot,
watching it.
need it.

It was no big thing; you really didn't

When his foot came out, he didn't worry about

re-reinserting his foot; he just kept on working with
the clothesline and got - got it out.
QUERY

So it wasn't very positive, and it came back in.

You

mentioned that there were hot spots and you feel different

391*

�hot spots.

Were any of - Did you notice any of those

on handrails or any of the - like the tree or anything
like that?
CARR

No.

For the most part, it was on white, white places

that were reflecting the heat.

I wouldn't even call

them hot spots; they were warm spots, really.
QUERY

On stowage and - and hardware restraints.

Can you com­

ment on any problems that you had with stowage containers,
if any?
CARR

Any that stick out in your mind at all?

No, most of the trees and things worked; the trees and
the pallets and everything worked.

QUERY

We're moving now inside, too; so - out of the EVA area.

CARR

Okay.

Inside it was Just a mess, a general mess.

And

of course, by properly designing an EVA area, you can you can design a lot of these messes out so that you
don'1; have all that foolishness going on.

But we would

do a real neat Job of lashing down T025 or something
like that.

And then on one case we used it - a pip pin

with a chain on it; wrapped it around a piece of equip­
ment and then stuck it back in its hole, forgetting the
fact that a guy with a big gloved hand was going to have
a hard time working that pip pin.

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And that almost caused

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us

to have to omit doing an experiment.

The ad lib

stuff, I guess, was the more dangerous of anything.

We

were thankful we had plenty of wrist tethers because the
tools we were carting around out there, I was always
afraid I was going to lose one. And when I was doing
the S05U camera fix, it was a real pain in the neck not
having a good place to retain those tools, because I
would have the flashlight mirror flopping from this wrist
and I'd have the screwdriver in my hand, trying to do
the thing with the screwdriver when I was levering the
filter wheel along.

And I would have this other thing

hanging on my wrist.

It was very helpful to have Bill

there holding me while I was doing that.

The loose

items - The tool caddy problem is a problem, and I guess
it always will be.

When I was trying to take the zero-g

fixture cover off on the last EVA and I was prying, I had
the gray tape on it as we'd - it said to do.

But you

know, gray tape when it gets hot or cold doesn't stick.
And they forgot to tell me that under the zero-g fixture
was a 2-inch block of some phenolic material that went
on down; it was a plug.

And I was busy prying, and I

couldn't figure out why that cover wouldn't come off.
And all of a sudden - pop - off it went; and I caught it
in mid-air, and it was on its way.

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And I was just thankful

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CARR
(CONT'D)

I was able to catch it, because I would have had to go
find another cover and start all over again if I had
lost it.

Just those handy little restraint things -

tool restraints.
QUERY

How did you find that Job of removing that fixture
cover?

CARR

No problem.
that door.

I had to move that B-l or whatever it is We had to pull the pin on that door and move

it out of the way.

And then I took the screwdriver, and

I dug the paint out of the slots; and then the things
came right up.
QUERY

We were a little curious as to how that was going to go.
We thought you'd be able to do it but it might be
difficult because you had to maintain the pressure on
the screws all the time because they were slotted screws.

:ARR

It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.

Once you got

it loosed, you could reach down with your glove and go
like that on the screw.

And it would Just keep going and

Just work its way out. Then when it got up about a foot,
you'd take your hand and go bam, like that, and off it'd
go.

But it was kind of fun.

Once you got the screw up

to where you could get your fingers on it, you could Just

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�CARR
(CONT'D)

give it a couple of twists like that, and it would Just
work itself up and Just come spinning right up.

QUERY

Going into the internal stowage and all, the restraints
on the stowage - like in the ring lockers and so forth,
like that - do you have any comments on any of the
internal stowage?

You made a number of comments about

the stowage in the film vault; I think we've got all that
stuff documented.

Anything else that specifically comes

up - POGUE

Dome lockers?

QUERY

Or anywhere else; the ring lockers.

POGUE

The PCU that was stowed in the dome ring locker, the one
that I had to get out to replace the one that leaked on
Jer, that was sort of hard to get out of there.

In fact,

if I recall, the tool that was specified in procedure
didn't work.
why.

And I'm not sure - I can't recall quite

I guess the whole point in this is that when a -

a consideration when designing launch stowage is removal
and replacement.
CARR

Just that simple.

We got the definite impression on a couple of things
there that people had overlooked the requirement to
reuse lock stowage hardware, for nominal retention - -

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�POGUE

Stowage.

CARR

And you took care of all the bridgevork, the civil
engineering part, the heavy-duty stuff, in getting it
off.

And then when you had to put another piece in

there, you had to kind of redo it.

One case in point is

the fans we replaced in the OWS heat exchanger.

It was

very unhandy to take the fans we took out and stow them
in that dome locker, and we were reluctant to throw
them away because we knew they were still working.

And

so - and I don't think anybody expected us - had planned
on us putting those back in the same place.

But the

thing is, I think, if - you probably ought to figure on
that kind of flexibility.
POGUE

What would be nice - The ideal would be if part and
parcel of the lock stowage seating was a loose friction
clamp so that the rest of the civil engineering bridgework that held it down, you know - That would hold it
for 50-g acceleration and all this other nonsense if
you could - if those would come off and be removed
easily and be color coded.

But when I remove those, I

still have a nice stowage for retaining the objects.
CARR

Zero-g stowage.

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�POGUE

Zero-g stowage.

CARR

The one thing we all overlooked, which we were very, very
sorry about, was the 230 experiment where we fastened
it to a - the grillwork over a light. And none of us
saw it when we were going all through training; was that
location where we were stowing that S230 foil was right
beside the repress - the repress valve in the hatch.
And Bill opened that son of a gun up, and we had a
3-inch Jet of high-speed - high-velocity air going
right through the hatch ...

POGUE
CARR
POGUE

Just was in the right position.

And it Just flat shredded one of Don Lind's 230 samples.
The probability of getting that configuration by accident
must be 10 to the minus 10.

Boy, it was right there,

Just lined up, and air went right through it, Just
shredded little bits of it.
CARR

So we felt very badly about that.

And you know, every­

body had looked at that thing, but nobody considered the
repress situation, when you'd be really blasting that
high-velocity air in there.
us.

And it really did it to

So that's a point right there to put in your design

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�CARR
(CONT'D)

books for the next system, and that is, don't plan on
retaining any equipment around the business end of that
thing, especially anything that could be damaged by highvelocity jets.

QUERY

If you take and put a deflector over it or something like
that, why then 90 chances out of a 100, why that'll be
what we have to go in and do something to, too.

CARR

Yeah.

POGUE

One thing that I would like to hit in the airlock module
was the stowage caps, or whatever you call them, for the
umbilicals, LCG connectors, and all that - that fiber­
glass thing that's Calfaxed down.
difficult to work with.

Those were very, very

Well, first off, it was designed

to receive about six fittings; I forget what it was.
I don't think anybody could put all those fittings on
there and get that into position; in other words, it
looked like from the start there was a design error.
But the fix was, you don't put two of them on there;
you leave two of them off, leave them dangling around
and fit them in right.

Well, that - you know, that sort

of leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth, to think
that they can't - you know, they give you something like
that to work with.

But even leaving those off, it seemed
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�POGUE
(CONT'D)

like that things were always twiBted and bend around in,
well, not a very satisfactory manner.

And then on top

of that, you had to use an awful lot of force to get into
position.

Calfax I don't like anyway, but you had to

U3e Calfax.

And you ended up actually putting an awful

lot of physical force on those to get them into position;
took two of us sometimes.
CARR

I think the sphere idea of stowing those hoses was an
excellent idea.

POGUE
CARR

Good idea.

But it's Just that awful fitting on it that you covered
it with, that you theoretically had to connect all the
hoses to.

You Just put so many strains in so many dif­

ferent directions on it that it Just became nearly impos­
sible to close that thing.

It would have been better

if you'd Just capped off each hose and stuffed it in the
sphere and have one of them lanyarded to a loose cap
that went on real easy.
POGUE

Yeah, that's a good idea.

QUERY

Yeah, the lanyard would have done the - -

POGUE

Yeah.

There was no need for them to h02

�QUERY

Everybody was afraid you might lose the ends down in
there and you'd -

POGUE

Ahhhh.

CARR

And a lanyard would have been good - a nice strong
lanyard.

QUERY

And I'm sure that we overdid the Calfax and had too many
on there, too.

CARR

Yeah.

QUERY

Gives you more alignment trouble.

On the various latches

and fasteners that we had inside, did you see any par­
ticular ones that you'd like to flag as really good or
really bad?

You mentioned the dial latches and the

Calfax in the tech debriefing ... - CARR

The dial latches were Just too doggone fragile.

The

Calfax were too fragile, too; you kept losing those
little bitty washers, the grip washers, on - that retain
it - the canister.
POGUE

Not only that, but the alignment of a Calfax is extra­
ordinarily critical.

There were - The heat exchanger

vane - OWS heat-exchanger-vane cover panel, I think, had
four Calfax on it and then one hinged panel - one hinge
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�POGUE
(CONT'D)

line.

There was one Calfax that - I don't know if any of

us ever got that one in.

And there was only one order of

tightening which would work in attaching that cover,
which - and I can't see that it's much different than it
was when it left the factory.

There was another area -

This has nothing to do with EVA, but the ATM coolant
reservoir, we never could get those to work; they flat ve just couldn't do it.

But I didn't like the dial

latches for that reason.
QUERY

The Calfax is supposed to have 1/16 of an inch of slop
around.

And we noticed that most of the complaints are

around that little ring that carried them on
CARR
QUERY
POGUE
CARR

Uh-huh.

- - because it seemed to come off.
Cam locks also gave us fits.

The most handy doors to open and close were those big
lockers in the MDA that Just had a - two big pieces of
metal that closed over each other, and you ran a pip
through them.

QUERY

Super simple.

The film vaults.

kok

pin

�CARR

Yeah.

I don't know why you didn't have that on the film

vault down in the workshop or nothing but Just a plain
old bar-over-the-hook gate latch to hold it shut.

But

those little Calfax, it - it ever swung closed while you
were swinging the doors closed.

And you'd hit it.

It

got inside - POGUE

Fit tight.

CARR

It Just bent it.

And then you'd have to straighten it

out, loosen the screws that hold it, and readjust the
whole thing.
QUERY

Okay.

How about the - Let's see.

Internally -

We

didn't have any magnetic latches internally, really; we
had some on the outside, on the ATM doors.
CARR

The - -

Yeah, if it doesn't screw up your instrumentation, those
magnetic latches are a very good way of latching.

QUERY

About hardware restraint methods, any particular comments
on best or worst?

Did you ever use the tool that was

provided for removing screws, those special screws that
were in the airlock around the CARR

J

You mean the high torque?

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�QUERY

High torques.

POGUE

Yeah.

Right.

Well, I had to take some of them out when I was

servicing Coolanol.
CARR

Oh, yeah.

But Bean and his guys had taken most of them

out - POGUE

Yeah, and they had the same trouble I did, in that those
high-torque wrenches had paint in the slots and they'd
been worked over a couple of times, and I really had fits
with a few of those.

QUERY

Did you use the little tool that was provided for yours,
with the - that gripped around the outside of the head
rather than in the center of it?

POGUE

No.

QUERY

Never used that.

CARR

No.

QUERY

Let's see.

That's the one that was sent up to take the

kickplate off - QUERY

The kick plate off the C&amp;D panels.

POGUE

Son of a gun. I didn't even know it was there.
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�QUERY

They didn't have to take the kick plate off.

QUERY

No, we didn't have - -

POGUE

I wish I had known about that, because that's a good idea.
I had an awful time with those high torque

QUERY

I believe you guys carried that tool up there.

CARR

Yes, we did.

POGUE

You see, I didn't ever work on the kick plate.

I didn't

know it was in there.

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MS

(Laughter)

QUERY

I remember when we ... it up.

POGUE

I could have sure used it.

CARR

Specialization bites us again.

MS

(Laughter)

POGUE

One problem you had with those high-torque screws or
bolts or whatever they are, and that is that it takes an
awful lot of compression force when you're loosening
on it.

QUERY

And I'm sure that's why you came up with that tool.

Right.
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�POGUE

Because it - Boy, it was really giving me fits,

I had my

legs strapped to handholds and everything to get the right
force.
QUERY

'

That's probably why you commented on the lack of restraint
in the airlock module and having to tie yourself to the
airlock ...

POGUE

Yes, I remember pausing quite a few times to reflect on
that.

MS

(Laughter)

QUERY

Because we - nobody else has commented

about the lack of

restraint in the airlock.
MS

(Laughter)

QUERY

We forgot about that Coolanol servicing.

CARR

Tools in general, I can - I'll Just - we made a lot of
comments in the tech debriefing on what we thought we
should have had in the way of tools.

We asked for a

soldering iron a long time ago and didn't get it - a
soldering gun.
POGUE

Files.

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�We asked for a drill; we didn't get it.

We asked for

files and didn't get them; luckily, we had a Swiss army
knife that had a file on it.
didn't have thera.

We asked for hacksaws and

And we could have used all those items.

And a crimper cutter - the type that an electrician uses
or electronics guy does to put terminals on the end of
wires and to splice wires together and all that kind of
stuff - with a selection of splices - should have had all
that stuff.

And I don't give a dang whether anybody can

in advance Justify the use of that stuff or not.

If

you're going to go up and set up housekeeping somewhere
like that, you need an adequate bunch of tools, because,
as I said before, it's Just like at home in your garage:
You can do a Job very quickly if you got the right kind
of tools; if you don't, it takes you three times as much
time and a lot of cussing to get the same Job done.
I got a whole bunch of things here on inflight mainte­
nance that I guess we'll get to a little bit farther on.
So we can get in some more of them.

Were there any

mechanisms in stowage locations which you felt had
accessibility problems?
Oh, let's see.

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�J
POGUE

Yes.

CARR

Oh, yes.

POGUE

Yes, I do. Panel 217.

Yeah.

If you could see your hands - All you got to do is

Just take a picture.

I should have taken a picture of my

hands after I got through doing the servicing in there,
because there's no way of working in there - Well, I
could use work gloves, I guess; I should have used work
gloves.

I used the photo gloves.

But that should have

been caught by ground safety, that's so bad. There wasn't
enough room in there to make them - to make and break

J

those QDs for the liquid gas separator.

It was Just a

sorry place to work; there's Just no two ways about it.
CARR

The stowage in general - The biggest single problem with
stowage is retention in the zero-g situation.

We need to

do a lot of thinking and get some inventiveness brought
to play here on how to retain things - little things.
Of course, the film vault is a prime example of that.
But some of those big film vaults up in the MDA were Just
great big empty boxes, and it got to the point where you
Just pushed something in there and closed the door real
quick.

And then you knew the next time you had to open

the door, you had to be on your guard. And little things

3

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�CA™
(CONT'D)

that we put in there, we would stick tape on them and tape
them to the door because we knew that we were liable to
lose them.

In our sleep compartments there was no stowage

for personal items.

And there was no place to write or

have your own little desk or to keep little things that
you wanted to have.

And there was no personal place.

A Ben Franklin desk sort of thing would have been - could
have been very easily designed into one of the lockers,
you know, where you pull the locker door down.

Instead

of having the locker door go all the way down, Just have
it come down part way and stay level so you could use it
for a writing surface.

And have a module of something

you could put in there with lots of little pigeonholes
and cubbyholes to put small things that you might want
to keep, because you gather things over a period of time.
Like I had a couple of spare triangles in mine, and I
had a little lanyard with a dog leash clip on one end
and a ring on the other one.

And I wanted to keep that

because I wanted to have it when I was ready to come
back and put it in the command module.

And I had some

items of a personal nature that I wanted to keep, and all
I had was big open locker.

And every time I opened

that, I had to watch it because I had in airflow coming
up from the floor.

And as soon as I opened that locker,

Lll

�I'd get a venturi effect in the locker; and all the small
things would start coming out at me and - Just because of
the airflow that moved through the area.

And I kept a

logbook in there so that I could write notes.

And any­

thing that's small like that is Just going to start coming
out at you.

And after a while, when you get a lot of

stuff in there, you dread opening it, because you know
you're going to have to fight it to the death in order to
keep everything in and get the door closed back up again.
I think all three of us ended up going into the tissue
dispensers in those areas and removing the tissue boxes
and cutting the spring out and using that little flapper
door as a real handy way to get in and keep things in the
small tissue-dispenser areas.

And I ended up Just main­

taining one tissue dispenser, and I cut the springs out
of the other two so that I had little pigeonholes to put
personal items that I wanted to be able to get to - like
the Swiss army knife and pieces of paper, things that I
wanted to keep from the teleprinter - teleprinter pads
and things like that.

I think in the area of stowage

that any habitable area, place where you got - that's
your own, your own bedroom, there ought to be some sort
of a personal area there where you can keep your personal
items and do your writing and your reading and keep your
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(CONT'D)

pencils and all that sort of thing.

Just like you do, say,

aboard ship, where you have a little stateroom.

And in

the - most all staterooms in a ship have got a little
built-in desk.
QUERY

That's it on stowage as far as I - -

POGUE

I can go back to a couple of maintenance - routine main­
tenance and servicing ideas that caused us trouble.

QD,

the panel 217 problem, a lot of that was associated with
affixing and - removing and reattaching QDs in a verylimited-access area, also where there were a lot of sharp
edges.

Another area where the problem arose was that for -

underwater tank 9, which was Just above the food lockers.
We had to remove and attach the water QD there quite often
during - let's say a half dozen times - during the flight,
for water-servicing exercises of one sort or the other.
The area was restricted in access and it was difficult to
remove the QD and reattach the QD to the water tank.

I

should say that there's always going to be an area where
it's - you have limited access for removal and attachment
of QDs.

At one time - Who's the little guy that worked

over there and quit about a year ago?
little tool - a QD tool.

They had made a

We had - I had so much trouble

with panel 21? that the guys had rigged up a QD tool.
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^ P°lnt

l8' 1 tMnk th6re 18 Pr°bably

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to be

made for developing one of these tools to give you a better
mechanical advantage and purchase in operating QDs in
limited access areas.

That's just sort of a problem area

I identify because, again I - I actually cut my arm up
there working that water tank 9 because you were working
at arm's - at extended arm length, working the QPs like this
along an axis like so, which wasn't too neat.

The other

area up in the MDA for servicing and maintenance that
gave us a little bit of a management problem was the
vetting of the water separator plates.

J

You had so much

hardware there all around us, with the water separator
plate and the spare condensate module and all this other
stuff - you might look at that one as sort of an extra
an example of a maintenance - that was a routine exercise
that was part of the activation - which could have used
a little thought as far as preparing work surfaces and
areas, restraints.

Oh, another thing. The plenum area

should have been lighted.

You know, we - that we worked

down there occasionally, and there wouldn't have had to
have been but a couple of lights down there. I was - we
were actually working with - There were areas down there
which were potential areas for maintenance, and that's

1

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�POGUE
(CONT'D)

where the heater probes were located.

We didn't have any

restraints down there and I don't think we really needed
any.

The - the little cables we had strung around there

for the bags were great.
QUERY

But you'd have liked to have a light rather than

POGUE

Yes; I mean why - why carry the doctor's light down there
on your head like a miner, you know.

And Just one or two

light bulbs down there would have been sufficient.
CARR

Yes, it's like having a house with a basement and no
lights in the basement. If you're going to go down there
to do anything, you probably ought to put a light - one
or two lights anyway.

QUERY

Okay.

Were the friction and detent provisions on the

stowage container doors and the hatches and all
satisfactory?
POGUE

No.

The M131 door, the latch on that thing gave us

trouble.

In fact, I don't think I ever got that thing

latched.

We always pushed it up there in position.

The T025 - When you have the cam lock latches on four
or I guess three sides of the door, almost always one of

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�POGUE
(CONT'D)

them is out of view.

And the thing haa so little friction

in the camlike hinges - the cam-lock hinges - that they
would flip back and reattach themselves after you thought
you had unfastened them.
CARR

These were the Dialatches.

POGUE

I'm sorry, Dialatches.

QUERY

The Dialatch problems - We got that.

CARR

Should have put friction in the hinge.

QUERY

))

)

How about the friction in the - for the MDA film vault
doors, the friction on those?

POGUE

Yes.

CARR

Yes.

They're pretty good?

�POGUE

No problem on that.

CARR

They'd stay where you left them.

POGUE

But they should've - One thing that I didn't like about Oh, I guess we've debriefed that enough - you couldn't had access to both sides at the same time.

Sometimes you

wanted to - transfers from one to the other.
CARR

That's in the film vault.

POGUE

Fi lm vault.

CARR

He was talking about the MDA film vault.

POGUE

Okay, OWS film vault.

QUERY

Were there any indications of fraying or breaking of
fabric materials in hardware restraints?

In other words,

a lot of fabric tiedowns and so forth, like did you notice
any of them that seemed to be frayed or broken?
POGUE

Yes, the - the tool box up in the MDA; you know, it had
the pins on them, and they weren't captive pins, which
is sort of a problem.

We didn't go in there too often, so

it really didn't give us that much of a problem.

If

we're going to use that very much, that would have been
unsatisfactory.

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The - the - Those drawers had fabric

overlays - 1+17

�QUERY

Right.

POGUE

- - and they were frayed.

CARR

They were a real bother too.

POGUE

Yes, that's

CARR

We'd have been better off with Mosite inserts.

QUERY

The - Did you have much trouble with the snaps - Velcro or
decals that were bonded on coming off?

CARR

Yes, we sure did.

We had a lot of them come unbonded, and

finally by the time SL-U came around, Kenny Kleinknecht
and people had beat the system down to the point where
they let us take some glue up with-us.

And we managed •

to glue some of them back, and they held very nicely.
QUERY

Okay, habitability, and generally, you covered a lot of
this with Ml+87.

We've got a few general comments we'd like

to ask you to consider.

What changes in general accept­

ability of your surroundings did you notice over time?
Any particular things?
CARR

Well, one of the things is color.
colors up there.

We got tired of the

There wasn't much variation, and our

clothing was all the same color, and the walls were all

;

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�CARR
(CONT'D)

the same color.

And it would've been, I think, good to

have had some color - a little more color up there.

And

of course, the submarine folks are learning that lesson or
have learned it.

Atmospheric environment surroundings,

once we got used to the humidity, we were quite comfortable.
Color - Odor was another one.
no odor.

We got sick and tired of

And we made a pitch towards that in the personal

hygiene area and all of that.

Doggone it, we should have

disinfectants and we should have soaps and things like
that that got the smells we are used to down here.
crying out loud!
worse?

For

Why make everything smell like iodine or

And, of course, we provided enough smells of our

own there that where a few bits of Airwick or something
like that could have been awfully nice on occasion.

And

like Bill has said on a couple of times that there were a couple of t h e more pleasant interludes was when i t ' s
time to defog the helmets.

Everybody would come up and

smell the detergent that we used to defog the helmets
because that Joy really smelled good after all the other
0GUE

Yes&gt;

it got pretty gross at times.

(Laughter)

ARR

Well, heck, deodorants and aftershave and Pinesol disin­
fectant to clean stuff with and all of that, we just didn't
have i t .

We r e a l l y m i s s e d t h a t ; we r e a l l y d i d miss i t .

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r

QUERY

Was there anything that you would have liked to change
periodically?

Or had the ability to change, Just to alter?

CARR

Let's see.

POGUE

General area of habitability you're talking about now?

QUERY

Yes.

POGUE

Well, I can't think of anything right off.

CARR

The color changes would have helped, you know; if you'd

Provide more variation perhaps.

have had maybe variations in color of clothing where you
could - POGUE

Well, I tell you; in a general area what we really would
have liked - and it's not really the question you're

•

asking, but it answers - it satisfies the requirement, and
that is television for entertainment - and more tapes.
That sort of thing.

That's what satisfied that sort of

craving for variety.
CARR

Yes.

The single best sorts of entertainment we had up

there, as we've mentioned many times, was looking out the
window.

And that was constantly changing and it was very,

very interesting to us.

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POGUE

And magnetic tapes were nice - the music.

CARR

Yes, the music was great.

POGUE

Another thing would have been nice, would have been to

We really enjoyed that.

have a built-in capability in each sleep compartment.

The

way it was, it was very inconvenient to - to move the
tape recorders in there so that - I only did it once and
that was for the light flash experiment, because I didn't
want to go to sleep during the middle of the experiment,
mainly.

But that was the only time I really took it in

the sleep compartment.

3

CARR

William Tell overture with light flashes.

POGUE

It increases the count anyway.

QUERY

The - What are some of the things that you missed the

(Laughter)

most up there.
(Laughter)
QUERY

There are a couple of things that's so obvious - (Laughter)

CARR

I - I still - I'd - I think that NASA knuckled under to
a very small but vocal area of public opinion when they
wouldn't let us have any wine or anything up there.

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I

�CARR
(CONT'D)

think that's dumb.

For those who like it, I think they

should have been able to have.

For those who don't like

it, fine; they don't have to have it.

But, Just a few

little of the niceties like that, not overdone - —
POGUE

Yes, in the area of food, if I'd have had some more candy
up there I think I would have functioned at 50 percent
higher level.

CARR

Yes, Bill's a candy eater; he enjoys candy and gets a lot
of energy from it.
not there.

And that was - That sort of thing was

I think, again, the television would have been

a very good thing; it would have been a valuable thing
from a training standpoint.

It would have been a valuable

thing from a records and data-keeping standpoint and also
very nice from an entertainment standpoint, because the
three of us all like football and we would have enjoyed
some of the football games.

I think that kind of thing -

the touch with the ground was probably the thing we missed
a lot of.

And, of course, the CAP COMMs helped a lot by

playing music once in a while.

The getup music was lots

of fun because we never knew what old Crip was going to
play next.

And the little newscasts were very good.

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We

�CARR
(CONT'D)

enjoyed very much hearing the news.

And we always were

disappointed when the guys would only pass up ahout
two items of news, because we knew damn good and well
there's more than that going on down here.
MS

(Laughter)

CARR

I guess that's the things we really

POGUE

Yes; obviously the - you know, of course, being with the
family in the evening, that was the thing that probably
got us more than anything else, but that's all tied to­
gether part and parcel.

CARR

Just connection with the folks back down home, the odors,
the colors, the TV, the little things - -

POGUE

Familiarity, yes.

CARR

The familiar things that you like.

You're so - It's such

a sterile environment up there that you begin to get very
detached.

I think back on that thing now and I find it

difficult to connect that part of my life with the main­
stream of my life down here.

It's just like you've been

sort of schizophrenic for a while and you've got to you've lived a dual life for a little while.
have to be that way.

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And it doesn't

�POGUE

It's like you only have an intellectual appreciation for
what was going on, although at the time it seemed like a
very deep emotional involvement.

MS

(Laughter)

QUERY

What did you find the most satisfying up there, if that
is different from things that you found enjoyable?

You

mentioned looking out the windows as being one of the
most enjoyable things.
CARR

That was the most satisfying for Bill and me.

Ed's solar

observations, I think, were the most satisfying for him,
and then the Earth observations.

I think the Earth's

observations work was probably the most satisfying for
Bill and me.
POGUE

And then I would say, what?

Well, I enjoyed the ATM and Earth resources experiment
operations.

Those had some type of creative operator

content and contribution.
CARR

That's right.

I guess the big key word is creativity.

You know, the Earth observations were a creative thing.
All they did was give us cameras, film, and an introduction
as to what sort of things they were worried about - not
worried about, but what they wanted to know about.
they turned us loose, and we got pictures.
k2h

And

And that was

�CARR
(CONT'D)

kind of creative.

And Ed's ATM was designed for creative

use, and he got to use it creatively later; so that was
very satisfying to him to be able to do it.

The

POGUE

The science demos too.

CARR

The science demos were satisfying because we could be a
little creative there.

The stuff where you Just followed

the clock and threw the switch was not very satisfying at
all, as one would expect.

Being the observer in a medical

thing was not very satisfying.
QUERY

It got very boring.

I'm going t o scratch out some of these I think we've
covered.

Did you all - Well, you mentioned in the

electrical portion that you had some bumping of those
airlock circuit breakers and switching them off occa­
sionally.

And that was partially due to the switch and

was that - the traffic area and the bar guard design, did
that anything to do with it?
POGUE

Yes, because you're tempted to grab the bar guard; that's
how I got trapped in this, I think, when I reached over
to grab ahold of it and it flipped the circuit breaker.

QUERY

Do you think that the wicket type of guarding would have
been better than the type of guarding -chey had on, or
would it have made much difference?
1*25

�CARR

It might have "been better because it requires that you
get the finger in the - in between the wickets to throw
a switch; whereas, if you bump it with a foot or something,
it will protect it.

But you've got an engineering tradeoff

there because a whole bunch of wickets are such much
heavier and space - use up a lot more space than just a
bar across the top.
QUERY

True.

You commented in the debriefings on the ATM foot

restraint position and the fact that it generally was
too high for all of you by about 8 or 10 inches.

Did

you move the ATM foot restraint from its position and
what position did you use?
CARR

It was all the way down, as far down as it could get.

QUERY

It was all the way down?

CARR

Yes.

See the thing is your natural posture is essentially -

standing is just very slightly bowed, with your back
hunched just a little bit, your legs flexed Just a little
bit.

And what we ended up with was the eye level right at

the top of the panel instead of where we had had all of our
training where you're sitting in a chair and you're looking
at the panel like this.

You had to look at it like that.

And the same thing in the food area too.

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You're not sitting

�POGUE

And the thigh restraint didn't help that any?

CARR

Yes.

QUERY

That's one thing, which crewman's restraint methods worked
best and worst?

Did you have any?

POGUE

Triangle shoes.

CARR

Oh, they were by far the best, yes.

It took a little

�)
CARR
(CONT'D)

down and fiddle around with your foot until you finally
got it to drop in the triangle and then lock it.
you get an eye for it later on.

But

You got to the point where

50 percent of the time you could float free right down
the floor and hit the triangle and lock yourself in without
ever having to grab something and make sure you didn't And the other 50 percent of the time you missed the triangle
and propelled yourself back up.
POGUE

Yes, and if you have both hands full, you're off and
running again; couldn't grab anything.

3

QUERY

Do you have one that you selected the candidate as being
the one that we shouldn't look at anymore?

CARR

Restraint?

QUERY

Yes, restraint types.

POGUE

Straps.

CARR

Those foot straps are no good.

Yes, in the waste management compartment.

Also don't ever

cover up triangles for another kind of foot restraints.
POGUE

Yes.

The waste management compartment is the worst in the

whole vehicle.

I think that's even worse than the MDA/STS,

if it could be.

3

b28

�And the floor, you know the plates you had on the floor
around the food pedestal?

Once we got rid of those things,

we probably quadrupled the number of triangles that were
available to us to anchor ourselves in.

And we still

didn't have very many because of those intercostal beams
that are in there that blocked off the triangles.
Bill, you mentioned that the M512 foot restraint was a
little bit off for some of your work with the furnace,
that you had Just used one triangle I believe, and you
felt the body position was a little wrong.
Yes; now Jerry, I think, used it all right.
No, I had the same problem though; all I could anchor was
my right foot.
Okay.

The other one was off

I ended up not even using it for the 516, because

the 516 work was so limited.

Now the flammability, that

was another matter entirely, because that required the
continual presence there at the panel, and Jer spent
several hours doing that.

So on 516, it wasn't even worth

the problem.

The work chamber, the furnace chamber was here.

And the

floor started here at my ri$it foot and went off that way.
So I could anchor - The most comfortable thing was to
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�CARR
(CONT'D)

anchor ay foot in the forward left-hand corner, and then
the rest of me was hanging out over the end, and I was
working with one foot restraint.

We Just didn't have it

in the right place, that's all.
QUERY

Apparently they - when it was originally planned, it was
organized for

CARR
QUERY

The C&amp;D panel.

And for the activity back there in the back and the
preparation and not actually for

POGUE
CARR
QUERY

Oh, for all that stowage and everything.
Yes.

^es.

For handling all the other stuff.

And maybe that

is why, because of the particular type of experiments that
were flown on your mission, we didn't have any comment
about it on either of the other two missions.
POGUE

You know, thinking out loud and not trying to redesign, but,
I guess, really suggesting it; you could have something
like that foot restraint there, but where you had different
levels of the triangles that would telescope and slide out,
giving you a longer - which could be rigid!zed by tethers,
maybe.

But the idea was excellent.
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The triangle - when

�POGUE
(CONT'D)

that thing was moved around for C&amp;D work, it was great
when - as long as you were right at the C&amp;D panel.
that's all it was good for.

But

But it was excellent for

that.
CARR

Yes, we really fell into it, I think, on the triangle
shoes thing and the triangle grid.

That was - that just

really came out beautiful.
POGUE

Yes, that was really so convenient.

CARR

Far and away the best restraint system that we have ever
seen.

POGUE

I used the mushrooms once.

I think I would have used

them more, except that you couldn't use them with the
bicycle.
CARR

And it was inconvenient to change - -

POGUE

And it was Just that simple.

QUERY

Right.

CARR

What you had on your shoes.

POGUE

We needed two pair of shoes is what we needed.

CARR

Yes.

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�QUERY

You want to cover anything on this?

QUERY

Could you give us a little information, a little more
discussion on the comparisons of volumes between the sleep,
the wardroom, the waste management compartment, experiment
area, and the airlock?

You know, Just the - the adequacy

and whether you felt that they were oversized or smaller;
good the way they were.
ROGUE

I think the - -

CARR

Well

POGUE

Go ahead.

CARR

Go ahead.

That's all right.

I was going to say that I thought the worst area was the
wardroom.

Although I liked the wardroom, there were a

couple of things about that and all of them are architec­
tural.

Ed did not have access to his food trays, and he

was always either coming around float - he always felt
like he was an interloper.

In other words, he had to come

around behind me or Jer, over the top of the food table
when, if we were all eating together, was a mess.

And

it - a lot of times, if you want to reach over and get
another drink or something like that, it wasn't convenient.
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�")
CARR

It was very inconvenient for him.

The size of the ward­

room, I think, was reasonable for the purposes of having
a place to eat.
POGUE

Ed's already made several points regarding use of floors
and ceiling for additional stowage, which I thought were
well taken.

And, of course, this has nothing to do with

the wardroom as such, and, of course, we were delighted to
have the wardroom window, but it would have greatly en­
hanced the usability of the wardroom window had there been
a large radial area clear around so that we could have with our nose in the window - we could have put our feet
around a 360 degree swath.
CARR

Because as beta angle changes, the horizon changes as it
comes up and through the window, and it's most natural
looking outside to look at your horizon this way, with
sky up here and Earth down here.

POGUE

You always move around to look that way.

CARR

You can ... yourself around in the window to get that.
It looks more natural, and that way the Earth is either
moving away from you or towards you this way.

POGUE

3

Strange thing, too, is that you'd recognize that there's,
you know, an area, a land mass area down there until you
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�moved around and got it so the top was up.

You couldn't

recognize it as easy even though the continent itself
may be upside down.
Yes.
That's interesting.

Waste management compartment:

Traffic was the thing there.

The use of the - the fecal and urine collector and somebody
washing at the same time really wasn't compatible at all.
And as far as using the urine collectors, I had no objection
to somebody going in there to use the urine collector while
I was washing.

It didn't offend me at all; and when you

got three guys living together that much, it doesn't
bother you at all.

But the thing was, it was inconvenient

because the guy standing there trying to wash himself
really had to paste himself against the wall for the guy
to go behind him or in front of him to get over to the
urine collector.

So you had sort of a traffic problem

there in the bathroom.

That was architectural, too, because there was that
pedestal, or that one column of equipment, stowage and
the heater panel, and so forth there, the 800 series,
was in the way.

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�CARR

That's the only thing I had in the waste management

k

compartment as far as volume is concerned.
POGUE

The experiment compartment was great.

CARR

Of course, we've already hit people over the head and
shoulders about the floor and the fact that you had no
foot restraints that were worth anything in there.
sleep compartments:

The

if all they're designed for is sleep­

ing, or reading a book when you're in your bed, or writing
letters, or doing whatever you're going to do while you're
in your bed, they were about the right size.

But if you

wanted it for a place for a person to go in anytime during
the day and maybe sit somewhere or lock himself somewhere
else besides in his bed, it weren't big enough.

The only

restraint system you had was the bed, so if you wanted
to be by yourself in your room, you had to get in bed.
One other thing that we recommended too from an architec­
tural standpoint is that the sleep compartments be spread
around the workshop, so one guy thrashing around in his
bunk doesn't disturb the other guy.

If you're just a

thin aluminum wall away, it can get pretty noisy and
bothersome.

The - yes, experiment compartment was -

no volume problems there at all.

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�POGUE

The only thing that bugged me in there was having to
remove the SOP, the secondary oxygen pack, in order to do
the 131 chair experiments.

And that was it; the rest of

it seemed like it was pretty well arranged.
CARR

Trash retention was a problem.

When you fill a trash bag,

and it's ready to go down the trash airlock, and you want
to Just stow the bag for a while until you're ready to
open the trash airlock and have a dump, where you dump
three or four or five bags, all we had was the well around
there.

And

POGUE

Netting would have been nice.

CARR

Once you fill that thing up, you know, it was time to
dump the trash.

But the problem is there was no place

to put the guy dumping the trash.
get leverage or anything like that.

There was no place to
And I had to wedge

myself into the well, which meant I had to displace three
of the bags in order to get myself in there so that I
&lt;

could operate the levers and provide back forces or
counterforces to the forces that I was putting on the
levers.

And so that - really the working arrangement

around the trash airlock was not too steany at all.

As far

as volume in the forward compartment, I guess on occasion
there was too much volume.
^36

If you ever let yourself get

�loose, got distracted and you drifted out of a foot re­
straint and you didn't notice it, all of a sudden you're
out there by yourself and you could do nothing about it.
All the swimming and fluttering and flopping did you no
good, and.all you could do is swear and one of your buddies
would come by and give you a shove and get you back to the
wall.

Otherwise you were doomed to stay there and free-

floating for 5 or so minutes until you finally got close
to something to grab.

And it happened to all of us at one

time or another.
Had a few midairs too.
guy goes boom.

One guy comes down, and another

No way of making midcourses.

Once you kick free from the dome or from the trash airlock
down there, you're - there's no midcourse; and if the
other guy doesn't look before he jumps, then you're both
committed and every man for himself then.
How about the airlock/MDA area, any particular comments
on volume there?
I don't think the volume was too bad.

It was just the

lack of proper restraint up there, proper ways to restrain
yourself while you're working.
Yes, and - -

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�I think the VTS operator was shortchanged on restraints.
Right, and the work in even the aft airlock compartment
on that recharge station - Oh, yes.
There weren't enough restraints there, and, of course, the
station itself gave us fits.

And the other is forces re­

quired to put the umbilical storage plate cover back on.
Yes.
On the - in the ATM/MDA area there, did concurrent ex­
periment operation or experiment prep cause very many
problems, interaction between people?
Not too many.
thing else.

I think the noise got them more than any­
Ed would be trying to work ATM, and Bill and

I'd be talking to each other or we'd have that 191 cooler
running, and it got awfully noisy up there.

But the idea

of having one guy working the ATM and another guy working
up there doing something else really wasn't a bad deal;
we didn't interfere with each other except we made noise.
And when one guy said he was trying to talk to the ground
or trying to record and somebody else was up there making
a lot of racket, it's hard to 1+38

�POGUE

It's distracting.

CARR

Yes.

POGUE

In lighting, while we're do - trying to do the comet
photography, the lighting conflicts was a problem.

CARR

You wanted the MDA black when you're looking for the
comet.

And if the ATM operator was trying to get in there

early or late or stay in there a little bit late trying to
either debrief or get in early and get set up for the
ATM pass, and the guy that was in there was trying to do
the comet work, it was mutually exclusive; because you
didn't want any of the integral lights up.

You wanted to

put tape over the record light on the SIA, and you wanted
to turn off all of the lights, all the indicator lights.
The yellow lights on the recorder, when they would flash,
it would bother you, and you'd want to put tape over them.
QUERY

How about any other cluster areas?

Can you think of where

concurrent operations kind of bit you?
POGUE

Well, working the SAL, minus-Z SAL, when there was a light­
ing constraint was a tremendous impact on other activities
in the workshop.

And we've already indicated that we think

a solution to that is to use dark hoods and that sort of
thing.

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�QUERY

Yes, we got that in the transcripts.

CARR

Yes, there were days when we had stuff with lighting con­
straints going on during the meal hour, and the guys had
to stand out in the wardroom and eat in the dark while the
other guy was up doing a minus-Z SAL experiment.

QUERY

Okay.

QUERY

Dick, before we go to - are you ready to go to another
area?

QUERY

Yes.

QUERY

Maybe we'd better assess where we are here.
how much more time do you anticipate?

It's 12:10;

I think some of

these things that you have left have been covered already.
QUERY

Yes, most everything but some of the inflight maintenance,
I think, is pretty well covered.

There are a couple of

comments on waste management.
QUERY

How much time do you estimate at the rate we're going at?

QUERY

Probably another half an hour or 1+0 minutes.

CARR

I ' d J u s t as soon finish up than q u i t and come back.

QUERY

That's great.

It's your call.
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�CARR

Okay.

QUERY

I guess one thing - about the only thing that I haven't
seen covered on the shower was the shower foot restraint.
How useful did you find that?

And was it satisfactory?

POGUE

Satisfactory.

QUERY

Any comments on it?

CARR

I think it would have been nicer if it had been a little
softer.

You kind of abraded your toes a little bit trying

to come under there.
POGUE

And I tried to use it to squeeze a - shove it under and
squeeze out washcloths and try to soak, you know, pick up
the water.

That didn't work too well, but it is an idea -

it gives you an idea of a configuration that would be
useful.
QUERY

But for a foothold, I guess, it was satisfactory.

Do you think that concept of the type of restraint for
temporary use would be adequate for other - -

POGUE

Yes, make it - as Jerry said, if you could make it a little
softer.

QUERY

Yes, right.

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�)
POGUE

One where you - you know you could feel comfortable about
Jamming your toes into it.

CARR

Yes, that's not a bad system at all.

I might mention one

thing about the shower, and that is the QD's for the
water were sure hard to work.

That was a very, very

tough QD to make, both in the water heater when you were
drawing water out in waste management compartment, and
also when you were connecting the water tank up to the
shower.
POGUE

That was a pretty hard connection.

Yes, I had put ny feet in - you know, when I was in the
waste management compartment, I put ny feet up on a wall

1

over - if you were facing the lavatories, the basin, the
one way over high on the left - I actually put ny feet'
over there in order to get the QD on.

That's how hard it

was.
CARR

Just like a lot of spring in the QD.

POGUE

Yes, it Just took a tremendous force.

QUERY

On the waste management Bystem, you originally were dump­
ing the urine bags, and then you went to using the urine
dump.

On about day 50, you had a little problem with the

urine dump system, and, as far as we know, it operated

1

1+U2

�satisfactorily after that.

Did you have any idea of what

caused it to clog, or did you have any other problems
that we didn't hear about?
No, the only thing I can think of is we may have turned
off the heater too soon on the previous dump, and we just
ended up with a solid slug of ice in there, and it took
6 or 8 hours of constant heater operation to finally dis­
lodge it so that we could start using the system again.
From then on, we left the heater on forever, and it
worked very nicely.

Did you have any difficulty obtaining half samples in the
full sample bags on urine systems?

No, that was no great problem.

We had to use kind of a

goofy system to get the urine into the bags without
bubbles.

It was kind of dangerous, I thought.

We broke

several sample bags.

Okay.

Were there any problems - this is on the fecal

collector - in maintaining the permanence of the seat
airflow orifices of the bag seal?
None whatsoever; it worked very well.

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QUERY

With the waste processor, could you give us some estimate
of how long the specimens were processed?

POGUE
CARR
QUERY

18 hours on ny part, about 16 to 18 hours.
I think the range was anywhere from 11 to 18 or 19 hours.
And I think we've covered a lot of the stuff on suit drying,
but just what would you assess the suit conditions with
respect to moisture on starting drying and at the finish
of the drying with the blower and the system in there?
Did you notice much difference?

CARR

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Well, the blue innerliner on the suit - on Ed's was always
the wettest and Bill's was next and mine was next.

And

I always felt after 10 hours of suit blower operation tnat
the liner was quite dry and that was on the first suit.
And by the time we got to the second suit, its liner had
already gotten dry Just from ambient air.

And the 10 hours

of suit blower, suit drying operation, then seemed to be a
little bit excessive, but we went ahead and played the game.
None of the suits got smelly at all.

The drying and the

using of the desiccant seemed to keep them pretty good.
Even the fact that we had those mildewed LCGs on - a lot
of that mildew smell did not transfer to the suits as I
had expected.

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It also did not transfer from the LCGs;

kkk

�CARR
(CONT'D)

they smelled rotten every time we put them on.

Surprisingly,

it didn't bother you once you got in the suit with it.
Apparently there was enough flow that you'd get used to
what little odor there was and it was gone.

But I remember

every time I put that thing on saying, Oh, bey.

I got to

wear this mildewed thing again.
QUERY

Did the blower get down into the extremities fairly well?
Did it seem like they were - -

CARR

Seemed to, yes.

QUERY

- - fairly good.

CARR

Right near the end on the last - well, actually after the
third EVA when we were drying the third suit, it sounded
like the blower bearing was getting ready to go.
started picking up a real high pitch noise.

We

It just

sounded like a high speed bearing starting to screech.
And it settled down after a while and finished up in good
shape.

Then the - after the last EVA, we started drying

again.

When we first turned it on, we got a lot of the

squeal; and then after it ran for a while it died out and
ran.

We got the drying done, but I'll bet you that a

few more drying cycles and the bearing in the blower
would have gone.
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QUERY
CARR

Okay.

But it ran.

It ran an awful long time.

I would say the

average, it was 12 to ll* per suit rather than 10.

Because

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I remember, I left one running in the suit for about
17 or 18 hours.

You get so used to hearing the blower, you

forget it's running.

And then one day, I went by and said,

Good heavens, that suit should have been dried 6 hours ago,
and i t ' s s t i l l running.

So I go over and turn i t off.

And the ground always wanted us to report start and termi­
nation of suit drying.

But you report the start, and

they sure didn't remind you when 10 hours was up.
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don't know what good the data was doing them.

So I

You know,

I always figured they wanted to know when we started so
they could remind us t o turn i t off.
QUERY

On the water subsystem, could you tell us how the color
compared or seemed to work?

Could you distinguish colors

well at the low end?
POGUE

Pretty well.

I never had any trouble convincing nyself

with - within one or two - within two of them.

In other

words, there may have been a choice between one or two;
I always picked the low end Just to be on the safe side.
No, no problem at all.

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Okay.

Did you notice any condensation associated with

chiller?
CARR

Oh, yes.

There was lots of condensation inside of it.

It was always wet.
POGUE

Now, just a second now.

Do you mean the water chiller in

the food prep table?
QUERY

Yes, the water chiller in the - -

CARR

Oh, I thought you talking about the chiller chiller, in
the top box - -

QUERY

No, not - no, just the water chiller - -

CARR

- - in the - -

POGUE

No, I did not notice any.

QUERY

Okay.

CARR

But the walls of the refrigerator - let's call it, the
food chiller was always wet.

POGUE

Yes, they were always wet.

CARR

They were always wet.

In fact, a lot of the dumb tin

cans we kept in there got rusty.
tin cans.

You know, the plain old

�QUERY

On the washcloth squeezer, did you have any problems
installing that squeezer bag?

CARR

No, no, it was very easy.

POGUE

Well, I would like to take exception to the design - -

CARR

Well, you were the one - you had trouble when you first
put it in, didn't you?

POGUE

Yes.

That little spread clamp or whatever it was - I'm

not sure I ever figured out how that thing worked, quite.
I think I did, but I had a lot of trouble with it in
training.

They were made out of a different kind of

metal that galled.

Anyway, we - I got it installed. I

think there should have been a backup tool for moving
those little ears - spreader.
CARR

The big problem with the water - washcloth squeezer was
there were too many nooks and crannies to catch dirty,
soapy water and it got smelly after a while.

QUERY

Was the bag fully expanded prior to dumping it?

Did you

fill it, in general, or did you Just CARR

Oh, it varied.

Sometimes it was full; sometimes it wasn't.

Sometimes I'd Just skip a squeezer dunp if it was sched­
uled and when I'd look at the bag and it was still
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�CARR
(CONT'D)

concave, I'd Just leave it.

Bill and I made pretty-

heavy use of the water squeezer and Ed didn't particularly
cere to use it too much.
QUERY

Did you perform any maintenance on the trash lock at all?

CARR

No.

QUERY

You just cleaned it a few times?

CARR

Just cleaned it, yes.

QUERY

Do you remember how many times you cleaned it?

Or about

roughly - CARR

Well, we cleaned it twice on a scheduled basis and then
once when we had a urine spill inside the trash airlock,
we cleaned it once and then again 2 days later and then
again about a week later, and we never did get rid of the
smell.

But there was a regular housekeeping task that

included biociding the trash airlock and cleaning it.
QUERY

Right.

Besides those, you had it for three times when you

spilled that urine and that's it.
CARR

Yes.

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QUERY

I think we got everything on the vacuum cleaner out of
the debriefing.

And you commented about the biocide wipes

How about the usage rate of the wipes versus the planned?
Did you have anything?
CARR

I don't really know what the planned usage was.

We had

to replace the unit once in the waste management compart­
ment and that was it, just one time.

I'd say we used

about a carton and a half.
POGUE

Did we have a planned rate or something?

QUERY

I think there was a scheduled - -

CARR

Yes, there's a habitability consumables page in stowage
book that I'm pretty sure had it.

QUERY

Right.

Did you have any problems with planned inflight

maintenance?

Either scheduled or unscheduled?

Ones that

were - I think, basically you said you didn't have any
trouble with any of the maintenance really, right?

What

was in your water separator ...?
POGUE

217 - that was the biggest buggaboo.

CARR

That was the one he dreaded the most and that was the
one that caused the most trouble.

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�POGUE

One of the things, again - in the same general area of
table caddies and that was the water servicing hose and
the water system, the nomenclature on water system, I've
already covered that in the debriefing.

But the hose

itself, that reel was not designed for zero gravity.

It

would have been nice if we had some kind of caddy device
where you could unreel a - feet and have some facility
or mechanism for holding the rest of i t i n the reel.

I'd

usually end up - the reel would gradually unwind and throw
itself over to the side of the workshop and have all the
spaghetti hanging down around in the workshop, and I had
to come down and rewind the whole thing.
an amusing thing.

We had a sort of

There was a thing called the water

relief valve which was called - the nomenclature was in the spacecraft was water release r-e-l-e-a-s-e valve and this thing was - and I noticed in the trainer and I
got all upset about it and turned out they were very
faithful when they were reproducing the vehicle, because
that's the way it was in the vehicle.
was wrong in the spacecraft.

The nomenclature

And another thing that was -

I've hit this before and I'd like to hit it again, and
that is there is no excuse for not having the proper
nomenclature on all these pieces, because the water
system itself - the worst thing about it was identifying

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�POGUE
(CONT'D)

the various bits and pieces.

One piece I never did find,

or if I did, I didn't know it because it had serial numbers
on it.
QUERY

Yes.

I've already talked at length about that.
We noticed that you had a good bit on that in the

debriefing.

And we got the list of tools, I believe, that

you felt should have been on board.
CARR

Just on the tools thing, too.

I don't know what it is

that causes us to go galloping off and buy tools that are
off-brand tools, real funny-looking things, but the first
pair of dikes, wire cutters, we got were not much better
than toenail clippers - POGUE

Looked like manicure clippers.

CARR

And so we said, all right, we want a new set of dikes up
there.

And the CCB says, get a new set of dikes and get

a good set right off the shelf.

And dadgummed'.

If they

didn't get some off-brand thing that really wasn't a very
good set either and it wasn't a whole lot bigger than
the original set.

And I don't know what's wrong with

Proto or Craftsman or some of these good brands, but we
got more offbrands of tools than I've seen and I don't
understand why.

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QUERY

It's probably buying them by Federal 3tock numbers.

I'm

not sure.
CARR

Probably is.

But you know, we got some real good tool

people in this country and we buy all sorts of other
funny tools - wrenches with very heavy webbings and you
know you'll never use that up there, open-end wrenches
that are much too heavy for the kind of work you're going
to do.
QUERY

I think those wrenches were just off-the-shelf wrenches
that they changed the coding on, however.

So wrenches

down here are designed to be beat on with a hammer, I
think; so that's what you have - you get if you get one
off the shelf.
CARR

Oh another - another tool we sure could have used up
there was a a rubber hammer sort of thing, a mallet.

QUERY

A soft hammer?

CARR

Yes, a soft hammer of some kind.

QUERY

That's a good point.

POGUE

By the way, anyone gives you an argument about having
files and drills about - because of particulate, just
refer them to the return procedure for sampling the
^53

�POGUE
(CONT'D)

charcoal canisters.

Because that really contaminated

the entire area when I'd knocked a hole in those with that
big awl or whatever it was.

So I mean we can live with

that kind of thing.
QUERY

How did that go?

You say there was a good bit of - good

bit of charcoal lost?

Originally we had planned to put

vacuum cleaner bags over the hole, slip through, and
drive through that so that that would keep the material in.
CARR

I don't think that would have solved it either - -

POGUE

I don't think that would have done it.

CARR

Oh, you start fooling with particulate matter that's
as fine as that charcoal was and there's Just not much
you can do about it.

POGUE

It was - it varied from powder to very small grain size,
say 2 millimeters in diameter.

QUERY

But you didn't see problem though - -

CARR

We had no trouble whatsoever up there with the particulate
matter getting in your eyes.

We built that Christmas

tree up there and we were popping all sorts of little
aluminum slivers and things around while we were cutting

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�CARR

those herringbones to make the Christmas tree with and

(CONT'D)

I did some hacksawing on Fiberglas with the saw and my
knife blade.

We did all sorts of things like that.

And

everything Just kind of naturally gravitates up to the
filters.

POGUE

By the way - -

CARR

It can be vacuumed off and it Just doesn't bother you.
And we can use some big - or some - various sizes of
metal shears.

We were actually using the surgical scissors

for cutting metal.

They worked quite well.

You got a

good mechanical advantage.
CARR

Yes.

QUERY

Were there any instances during the IVAs, Just during
- *

internal action, where any special designed tools would
have been desirable?

I think a minute ago you said

just use regular tools.
POGUE

Well, the QD tool - -

QUERY

QD tool, well - -

POGUE

Is there anything specific?

was the one that I mentioned.

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That's a kind.

�CARR

And of course the special tools we had done for the
connector pliers.

TSie one with the straight connector

pliers and the other one with the 90-degree angle on
them.

Those are special kind of tools.

I think for the

most part if we needed a special tool, we probably put it
down on the down tape.
QUERY

You've mentioned a few instances when you didn't have a
tool, like the ice removal, the tool you were talking
about a while ago ...

POGUE

Ice removal - -

CARR

Yes, ice removal.

We really had to improvise to get a

good ice removal tool.

That snap T-bar that the snaps

were fastened to worked great until Bill discovered
that the little clipboard worked better.

The little

kneeboard - POGUE

Kneeboard - not the big one.

CARR

The little kneeboard that we had up there was a piece
of aluminum about about It by 6, something like that U by 8.

POGUE

Yes.

CARR

Worked out very nicely.
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�How did those connector pliers work?

Pretty well?

Yes, Ed used them on the S082 - I think it was S082B
auxiliary timer.

Worked out pretty well.

I tore the insert out of them along toward the end and
replaced it and taped it in with narrow strips of gray
tape.
Oh, you're talking about about the regular connector
pliers?
Yes.

Were you talking about that special EVA

I thought you were talking about the right angle ones.

Okay.
Yes.
Because we never used them EVA after - —
That's right, after Jack used his - used his for the
rate gyros.
Right.

But the stuff you used them on inside, they

worked fine?
Seemed to work fine.

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�QUERY

Were there any - were the tools provided found to be
inadequate?

The dikes you mentioned - even the replacement

dikes didn't seem to be too good - -

CARR

They weren't very strong.

QUERY

Anything else that you felt didn't really hack it?

POGUE

You know you had some washers - some - you call them
C-clamp washers, the kind we pulled off the 183 carrousel.
We didn't have a tool for removing and replacing those
things.

But we had some of them in our stowage.

Bottom -

I forget what drawer it was.

CARR

Let's see, inadequate tools?

POGUE

So it's a C-clamp tool.

CARR

No, most all the tools we had up there that we used, we
had no complaints with.

Other than that some of them

seemed kind of cheesy, I thought; and I mentioned that.
QUERY

Okay.

Were there any instances where reaction forces

presented any problems?

POGUE

Yes.

QUERY

On the high-torque screws you mentioned?

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�POGUE

On that, on removing PCU, on removing Just about anything
from the dome ring locker.

If you were high; you see you

had the blue ring with the real nice foot restraints in
there.

By the way, they held your toes in a position so

that you came out real easy.
having them.

Oh, I was grateful for

I forget exactly what it was.

always coming out of them.

But you were

You had to consciously hold

your feet in the right - legs in the right posture to
stay in them.

But if the equipment that you were trying

to remove from dome ring locker, assuming you had to use
tool and high-torque grasp, you could come out - It was
hard to get to.

And one of those was the OWS heat exchanger

fan.
CARR

But it's the same old thing, that if you can't lock your­
self in order to put torque on something, then you've got
to use one hand for restraint or counterforce and the other
hand - and it reduces the amount of torque that you can
bring to bear when you've got to use one hand for
countertorque.

QUERY

Right.

The - you mentioned about strength being required

for your for that - for your Coolanol work and all extra
restraints that you made up.
veniently located?

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1*59

Tool kits and spares con­

�No, I don't think so.

I thought the tool kit, if we had

located them more centrally, I think it would have been
better off.

I think they were kind of down in one end

of the workshop.
Yes, I guess it would have been best - It would have been better if we could have had them up
in the dome somewhere, maybe all that big wall space in
the dome, part of that could have been used for a tool
box.
Yes, that was all wasted.
And you could have spread the tools out more instead of
having to concentrate them so tightly.
No reason why you couldn't had a pegboard Just like you
do in your own garage, or tool or workroom.

We had them

all spread out - with a lot of visibility because getting
them in and out - putting them in and out of the drawers
was a mess.

I've already debriefed the drawers, too.

Right.
And restraint.

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QUERY

Stowage, launch stowage is, of course, one of the things
that ... requirements between launch stowage and the
other ... - -

CARR

That's correct.

You could have started out with launch

stowage and then over a period of time you can begin to
utilize your wall space better.
QUERY

Did you see any need for tool tethers inside?

Or any of

your maintenance inside of the spacecraft?
CARR

Yes, but I can't tell you what's a good design yet.
tool caddy didn't work well.

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QUERY

The

We didn't like it.

Individual tethers on tools on - individually on tools
did you see any need for it at all - -

POGUE

For your work inside, really I don't think you need it.

QUERY

You need a good tool caddy?

POGUE

That's right.

QUERY

But the one we had wasn't so good?

CARR

No, no.

POGUE

It just didn't work.

The idea, the motive behind it was

good.

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�CARR

We found that we'd just stuff them in our waistbelt or
stick them to the wall near the work area with tape.

QUERY

How about the Velcro that was on the tools, was that
any use to you or did you find that it was just in the
way?

POGUE

I used it occasionally.

CARR

Yes, I did, too.

POGUE

It's particularly good but you have to have Velcro in an
area where you're going to work.

If you're doing work

around the SAL, you're in business.
QUERY

Were there any IVA actions which should have been antic­
ipated and - Well, we've pretty well answered that one,
i think.

What onboard capability we'd have?

We're going

back to the same - CARR

I might mention about tools and Velcro - Let's talk about
writing tools and that's the ballpoint pens.

They had

little itsy-bitsy bits of Velcro hook on them and you
couldn't get them to hook anywhere.

Whereas the pencils -

apparently somebody else in some other department put the
Velcro on the pencils and and there was adequate Velcro
so that you could stick a mechanical pencil where you

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�CARR

wanted to and it would stay.

But you had about 30 percent

of that Velcro stuck on the - stuck on the pen and a
ballpoint pen was difficult to retrain - retain anywhere.
It was an aggravation to us to - POGUE

We finally took a piece off of a food bag and put on the
one that we had in the head for recording fecal weight and
all that.

QUERY

Can you think of any tasks which were unscheduled which
really should have been scheduled?
around.

Or the other way

Any specific things that come to mind.

Ones

that were not supposed to be scheduled that we ended up
doing on a regular basis or anything like that.
CARR

No, I can't.

I can't think of anything right off hand.

By the time you got to us, I think you had most of that
stuff ironed out.
QUERY

Was the failure detection and fault isolation a problem
or do you have any recommendations for any improvement
on that?

CARR

Again, we didn't get involved too much in failure detectior
and fault isolation because the ground handled it.

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�POGUE

This is sort of related.

The condensate holding tank

quantity - you know, you had to go down and get the little
stud finder to find - to locate the position of the bellows
divider.

That - there ought to have been a printed decal

or something to say where to put the stud finder because
A1 Bean had tracked this thing out.
hours to do it.

It must have taken

But it was — it was a real wavy curve

that you had to move the stud finder down in order to
locate the - the bellows.

That sort of thing, you shouldn't

have to do that in flight.

There should be a path for the -

the metal detector inside.
QUERY

Well, you made a lot of comments also about the need for
feedback, Bill, which I think is related to this question.
The answer - the answer that you've already given, you know,
about if you could do something, some positive feedback
that would tell you if you've had a failure or Just what
your problem is.

QUERY

From the C&amp;D standpoint

QUERY

Yes.

CARR

Right.

QUERY

Well, any - anything like that then.

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�CARR

I think the - the idea of trying to - all these different
water accumulators, where we had to go look at them and
see what percent full they were - They were terrible
for ... - -

POGUE

Oh, yes, you couldn't - Yes.

CARR

You couldn't even tell with a mirror, some of those things,
how much water was in them.

POGUE

Those - That's a good point.

Those were very bad.

QUERY

All of those, their - It's apparently generic to the
whole thing, the condensate tank and all the others.

POGUE

The ATM was the easiest; but the other two, the LOG loop,
were very bad.

CARR

You couldn't even get your head in there to really see
enough of it.

POGUE

You had to reach - You had to hold the flashlight in and and illuminate the right area and keep looking at a
mirror here to tell where the - what the position of the
billows was.

QUERY

Should more detailed maintenance procedures - Well, you
covered that in detail on the transcripts; so we won't
discuss that much more unless you - -

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�Yes, areas like this is where that - that cassette TV
really pays for itself. If something breaks down, the
folks down on the ground could do a repair job on one
and televise it and then send it up saying, this is how
you do it.

It sure cuts your training requirements down

One little area of confusion that we never did really
get - get sorted out or - at least to get a satisfactory
answer on - was the tape recorder changeover connectors.
And there was inconsistency in the nomenclature and the
color coding.

Do you remember that?

When you changed

the cables over - -

Oh yes, the - this is the EDDU, EREP tape recorder bit,
when you change from tape recorder 1 to tape recorder 2-.
If you blindly followed the color dots, you were okay;
but if you tried to - to hook P-5 with J-5 or something
like that, you were all messed up.

Something like that.

There was a mistake.

We finally -

In order to use the nomen - the J whatever it was, you
had to cross connectors; and we figured that wasn't right
The color coding that - that time saved us the problem,
I'm sure.

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�QUERY

Were there any damaged or broken tools other than the You mentioned you lost an insert on the cable pliers.
Anything else that you can think of?

POGUE

A bent screwdriver.

CARR

Yes, the 3/l6 screwdriver got bent.

It was used for a

prying tool and got bent, and I hammered that back into
shape again.
POGUE

I think we lost one of the little pinchbars.

Never did

find it.
CARR

Yes.

QUERY

Well, there was one of - One of those two was put - left
outside on the first EVA, when we erected the beam.

POGUE

No, no, this - Well, maybe it was.

QUERY

And there should have only been one pinchbar - bar on
board; so -

QUERY

After these guys got here.

QUERY

Yes, when we - when they got here.

We started once with

two, and one was outside after Pete's mission.

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�CARR

The side cutters - the vire cutters that we brought up
were already getting dull.
much.

They hadn't been used very

Even the Phillips-head screwdrivers were hanging in

there pretty well, and you know how Phillips-head screw­
drivers are.

They're awfully easy to mess up.

But they

were still in reasonably good condition after the use we
put them to.

I was pleasantly surprised by that.

So it

was pretty - pretty good grade of steel that was used in
that.

QUERY

And I think you've mentioned this several times on the
tech debriefing, but you talked about the value of a
workbench and the use of the screen for a workbench.

Do

you have any recommendations?

CARR

It Just looks like the aerodynamics style of workbenches
is the best way to go.

We used the - the screen up

there - I should say Ed used the screen for a workbench,
and i t worked very nicely.

He had to make a little card­

board corral to keep the small things in because you
could - you could bump or cause the screen to ripple a
little bit and i t would make the small - the small-inertia
items fly.

And so he Just made a little cardboard corral

and stuck i t up there, and then all of his little nuts and
bolts and washers, he put in there; and it managed to keep
them all together.
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(CONT'D)

The bigger stuff you can just lay on there, and it's got
enough surface area so that the air pressure held it down.
It's very handy, and it's - it's — it's — I think it's
essential that we have a place to work.

QUERY

You deal - You do feel a dedicated place like that is is a very ...

CARR

I think so.

It ought to be an electromechanical sort of

a workbench; that is, it should have - be somewhat of a
cross between a mechanical workbench with a vise and an
electronics workbench where you've got some power sources,
different voltages, and you've got multimeter capability
and things like that in the same bench so that you can
bring units and — and test them.

And if in the future we

get to a type spacecraft design where we're replacing
modules and things like that, I imagine the ground is
going to - going to have us doing some module testing.
And you might as well design your bench to do that.

Not

only that, I think Bill had a good point too, that you
need a portable bench to take around with you when you
got a job that can't be brought to the bench.

And that

can be something that just hooks onto the vacuum cleaner.
Now all you got to do is have a flat surface with the
airflow work - working through it, and you could use it
for a workbench.

U69

�QUERY

I think you've already commented on the arrangement of the
tools and the tool kits.

Did you use - Well, you used the

digital multimeter some.

How did that work out?

CARR

Very well.

QUERY

Do you have any comments on access on any maintenance

Yes, we were - I was very glad to see that.

task other than the 217?

I think we've covered that one

pretty well.
CARR

Yes.

QUERY

And I think we've covered the last one on maintenance
capabilities here, too; so that's all I have.

Are there

any other questions that anybody has?
CARR

There's one in the back there.

QUERY

Not a question, but Just a comment to Jerry.

On the dump

tape - QUERY

Should we come up to a mike?

QUERY

- - zero - Okay, this is just a comment to Jerry.

Dump

tape 030-k, I think it was, you did an Mk87-3D, and that
thing turned out awful - had an awful lot of background
noise.

Now I think it was Bill's fault because he did

something up there.

Do you remember?
1+70

You started it off,

�QUERY
(CONT'D)

and you said, "Hey, what'd you do?"
happened up there?

You know.

What

And apparently, they must have done

something bad, because you kept turning your head and,
you know, looking at him.

Anyhow, the people that tran­

scribed the thing couldn't understand you; so a whole
bunch of dots came in there.

And you're talking about the

tools and this and that and the other.

So if somebody

asks you why you needed oil up there, it was a file that
turned out to be oil in the transcript.
CARR

Oh.

QUERY

Also, I think it was a wire crusher and several other
things.

So something in the tool area that - that somebody

read, you know, you know where it came from.
CARR

Okay.

QUERY

It was a bad tape.

Maybe we ought to get it squared

away later on, but CARR

I imagine Bill was probably working the Mark I exerciser.
That was an annoyance some - -

QUERY

Oh, he did some black magic there after awhile.
picked that up, but -

CARR

Can't think of what it was.

it 71

They

�QUERY

Well, anyway - -

CARR

Okay.

QUERY

It's awful garbled and -

P0GUE

What - what was it you were doing at the time?

CARR

1 was

POGUE

Oh.

5UERY

Yes-

debriefing on MU87, talking about the tools.

^d

we

took it over the kkO and tried to get some

of the background noise out of there, but not well enough.
So when the girls apparently typed it, the file - I could
0

understand you saying file, but the world now sees where
you want oil up there.

o

QUERY

That's what the world wants - oil.

QUERY

Thank you, gentlemen.

^

That's all we have.

JERY

We thank you very much.

QUERY

No.

Bruce, do you have any questions?

QUERY

No ... you and I ...

QUERY

Okay.

1+72

�QUERY

I guess that ends it then for all the systems, and thank
you, guys, for hanging in there with us for the last
couple of days.

POGUE

Okay.

CARR

Thank you.

You've been tolerant and patient.

QUERY
GIBSON

Yes?

QUERY

Let's have some lunch ... find out what it is ...
McDonald ...

GIBSON

Okay.
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SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 CST 12:47 GET 17:00 MC10/1
PAO
Mark. Standing by now for confirmation of
ATM deployment. We're 17 minutes 35 seconds. The deployment
motors of the Apollo telescope mount now running. This deploy­
ment sequence in toto takes about 4 minutes. Deployment
being activated by two Apollo telescope mount motors which
are presently running. We're 18 minutes 20 seconds now
ground elapsed time. The booster now being maneuvered to a
solar inertial attitude. We're at 19 minutes 10 seconds
ground elapsed time. Mark 20 minutes ground elapsed time.
We should be less than a minute away now from deployment.
Mark 20 minutes 12 seconds ground elapsed time. Our data
displays, Mission Control, now show the ATM has deployed and
locked. The Apollo telescope mount has been deployed and
securely latched. The 24,500 pound ATM reaching out now at
a 90»sdegree angle from the orbital workshop. We're at
20 minutes 35 seconds. We've had confirmation. We have data
here in Mission Control that the ATM has deployed and latched.
Mark 20 minutes 50 seconds. The next event to occur will be
the deployment of the four wings of the telescope mount solar
array system. We're standing by now for that deployment. Mark,
we're at 21 minutes 40 seconds ground elapsed time. Prelim­
inary tracking data shows an orbit for the orbital workshop
of 237 nautical miles by 236.3 nautical miles near circular.
We repeat 237 nautical miles by 236.3 nautical miles. We're
at 24 minutes 30 seconds now ground elapsed time. Continuing
with the solar inertial maneuver, reports booster. Twentyfive minutes ground elapsed time. We've got 1 minute until
loss of signal with Madrid. Mark, we're 25 minutes 45 seconds.
The deployment motors have been turned on. The solar array
system wings on the Apollo telescope mount are now extended.
Standing by, continuing to monitor.
END OF TAPE

�SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 CST 12:57 GET 27:00 MC11/1
Mark we're at 26 minutes 30 seconds under
acquisition now by an ARIA aircraft following loss of signal
with Madrid. Okay, all four Apollo telescope mount solar
array wings *re out and securely locked. Mark we're 27 min­
utes 20 seconds now ground elapsed time. The Apollo telescope
mount has been deployed and securely latched. The solar array
system for the telescope mount, the four wings, has been deployed
and securely locked. The next thing we should be seeing in
Mission Control - We'll be receiving telemetry data from the tele­
scope mount and this should occur within the next several
minutes. We are presently receiving data through an ARIA
aircraft beyond Madrid tracking station. Mark 28 minutes
10 seconds. We now show an orbit of 237.1 nautical miles
by 236.6 nautical miles for the orbital workshop. Mark
29 minutes 20 seconds. We've had some dropout in data from
the ARIA aircraft, presently showing static displays in Mission
Control. The procedures officer here working to get locked
up on the data at this time. We're at 29 minutes 40 seconds
ground elapsed time. We repeat that the Apollo telescope
mount has been deployed. The solar array system from the
telescope mount also deployed at this time. The next deployto °ocur will be the solar array system for the workshop.
?S ground elapsed time. We presently show an
K „ ^ *
nautical miles by 236.8 nautical miles for
the orbital workshop now in its first revolution. Mark
34 minutes 20 seconds ground elapsed time. Flight Director
Don Puddy speaking to his flight control team in mission
control saying everything looks good up to this point. We're
standing by now for definite indication through ARIA aircraft
WP'JiCniS ^ telemetry data from the Apollo telescope mount.
We re now at 34 minutes 40 seconds ground elapsed time.
Continuing to monitor. This is Skylab Control, Houston.
END OF TAPE

�SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 CST 13;07 GET 36:00 MC-12/1
PAO
This is Skylab Control, Houston, at
36 minutes ground elapsed time, still standing by for a
definite indication of receipt of telemetry from the Apollo
telescope mount. Following this we will see the deployment
of the meteoroid shields and the deployment of the solar array
system wings aboard the workshop. Thus far, we've seen the
successful activation of the Apollo telescope mount as well as
the solar array system for that mount. We're at 36 minutes
35 seconds, continuing to monitor. This is Skylab Control,
Houston.
PAO
This is Skylab Control, Houston; 41 minutes
ground elapsed time. We presently show an orbit of 236.2
nautical miles by 237 nautical miles. We are some 12 minutes
26 seconds away now from acquisition Carnarvon at which
time we should be able to verify telemetry being received
from the Apollo telescope mount. This is Skylab Control,
Houston, at 41 minutes 35 seconds ground elapsed time.
END OF TAPE

SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 CST 13:24 GET 53:00 MC13/1
PAO
Skylab Control, Houston, at 53 minutes
ground elapsed time. We're less than a minute away now from
acquisition by Carnarvon tracking. We'll keep the line open.
Stand by, continue to monitor. A quick status check in Mission
Control by a Flight Director, Don Puddy, led him to say every­
thing looks "super good" so far. We presently show an orbit
based on increased tracking data of 236.5 nautical miles by
236.2 nautical miles. Standing by continuing to monitor. This
is Skylab Control, Houston. We are now acquiring data through
Carnarvon. Booster reports the vehicle is now in solar
inertial attitude. We are now receiving telemetry data from
the Apollo telescope mount. The Environmental Officer reports
the data receiving looks good. The habitation area vent valves
have been closed as scheduled. We're now at 55 minutes
ground elapsed time. This is Skylab Control, Houston.
END OF TAPE

�SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 CST 13:29 GET 58:00 MC14/1
PAO
Skylab Control, Houston, at 59 minutes ground
elapsed time. We have no confirmation yet on the deployment
of the airlock solar array system. We'll stand by and con­
tinue to monitor at 59 minutes ground elapsed time. This
is Skylab Control, Houston. Skylab Control, Houston, at 1 hour
4 minutes ground elapsed time. We're less than a minute
away now from acquisition by Honeysuckle. This
ke j*
very short acquisition time, some 1 minute 11 seconds. Follow­
ing Honeysuckle, the next station to receive data will be
Texas, and that would be 30 minutes 30 seconds from this time.
We're now at 1 hour 4 minutes ground elapsed time. Continuing
to monitor, this is Skylab Control, Houston. We have acqui­
sition through Honeysuckle at this time. We're 1 hour 5 min­
utes ground elapsed time. Skylab Control, Houston, at
1 hour 7 minutes ground elapsed time we've passed out of
station contact with Honeysuckle at this time. The next sta­
tion to acquire will be Texas at 27 minutes 42 seconds from
this time. We've still received, through data, no definite
indication on the airlock solar array system deployment;
however, this pass, as well as Carnarvon, was through dark­
ness and the Sun will be the first definite way of giving
an indication as to whether or not the airlock module solar
array system has been deployed. We would expect to take a
good hard look at this through our first stateside pass.
We're now at 1 hour 7 minutes ground elapsed time. This is
Skylab Control, Houston.
END OF TAPE

�SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 14:05 CST 1:34 GET MC15/1
PAO
This is Skylab Control, Houston, at 1 hour
34 minutes ground elapsed time. Less than a minute away now
from acquisition by Texas, We show an orbit of 237,1 nautical
miles by 236.2 nautical miles. To quickly recount what we've
seen during this first revolution of the workshop orbit. The
payload shroud jettisoned on schedule. The ATM Apollo telescope
mount has deployed. The solar array system for the ATM
has also deployed. We have no indication yet on the deploy­
ment of the two solar array wings attached to the workshop.
We will look at this - at display data for about 10 minutes
under sunlight on this stateside pass to endeavor to confirm
or not confirm that deployment. Given a nonconfirmation, of
course, backup commanding could be necessary from the Control
Center. We're at 1 hour 35 minutes ground elapsed time. This
is Skylab Control, Houston.
PAO
Skylab Control, Houston, 1 hour 38 minutes
ground elapsed time. Flight Director, Don Puddy, talking to
the Booster System Engineer here in Mission Control. We have
no indication of deployment of the workshop solar array system wings.
No indication of deployment of those wings. The Booster
now going through some backup command procedures. We've also
had an indication of partial deployment of the meteoroid shield.
We're at 1 hour 39 minutes ground elapsed time, continuing
to monitor. This is Skylab Control, Houston.
PAO
Skylab Control, Houston. Now 1 hour
40 minutes ground elapsed time. The orbital workshop now
on it's first stateside pass since launch and insertion
into orbit. We are presently looking at the orbital workshop
solar array system. No indication at this time of deployment.
The Booster Systems Engineer here in Mission Control going
through backup procedures to issue a command for deployment.
Standing by, continuing to monitor. This is Skylab Control,
Houston.
PAO
Skylab Control, Houston, now 1 hour 46 minutes
ground elapsed time. Continuing to monitor on this first
stateside pass, the orbital workshop. Again, we repeat the
orbital workshop solar array system wings have not deployed.
Command procedures are being followed presently on the ground
by the Booster Systems Engineer. Standing by, continuing
to monitor. This is Skylab Control, Houston.
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�SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 C5T 14:20 GET 1:48 MC16/1
PAO
Skylab Control, Houston, now 1 hour 53 minutes
ground elapsed time. Receiving good data now through New­
foundland. Booster at this time issuing commands to the
workshop. To repeat what we said earlier, the orbital workshop
solar array system wings have not yet deployed. Standing by,
continuing to monitor. This is Skylab Control, Houston. Skylab Control, Houston, 1 hour 57 minutes ground elapsed time.
We now have acquisition with Madrid. Standing by, continuing
to monitor. This is Skylab Control, Houston.
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SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 CST 14:35 GET 2:03 MC17/1
PAO
Skylab Control, Houston, at 2 hours 7 minutes
ground elapsed time. We've passed out of acquisition with
Madrid tracking. The commanding by the booster systems
engineer was verified. The commands did get in; however,
we still have no indication of deployment of the orbital
workshop solar array system wings. It is known, of course,
that the commands did get in. At the present time, however,
with the Apollo telescope mount solar array system deployed
successfully, we do have a power system to support the vehicle.
We're now at 2 hours 8 minutes ground elapsed time and this
is Skylab Control, Houston.
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SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 CST 15:12 GET 2:41 MC18/1
This is Skylab Control. Two hours 41 minutes
ground elapsed time in the mission of Skylab 1. Skylab space
station now in orbit, coming up on the Honeysuckle, Australia,
tracking station. Still some doubt in the minds of Flight
Controllers here in Mission Control as to whether the main
solar panels on the workshop have indeed deployed. They
have had no confirmation on the ground from telemetry that
this is the case; the solar panels on the telescope mount
have deployed normally. Also, the micrometeoroid shield
around the workshop has partially deployed. The large wings
of three sections of solar panels on each wing, one on each
side of the workshop, generate anywhere from 51 to 125 volts
depending on the Sun angle at the time. This power goes
through chargers which in turn keeps storage batteries in
the workshop built up to supply power throughout the mission,
half of each orbit approximately is in darkness when no
power can be generated by the solar panels. The two solar
panel wings are deployed out to the side of the workshop,
and each panel on the wings operates similar to a scissors
action. It's spring loaded to extend the panels. We should
be getting data now through Honeysuckle. We'll stand by for
comments to the Flight Director from the Flight Controllers
who are concerned with the workshop electrical power system,
and relay this information as it - No change reported in the
solar panel wing status.
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�SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 15:27 CST 2:56 GET MC19/1
PAO
This is Skylab Control. Three minutes
2 hour - Three hours 2 minutes ground elapsed time, and
the mission of Skylab 1. Skylab space station now being
tracked by the Hawaii tracking station. Waiting for the
systems engineers to report the space station status back
to the Flight Director as the data comes in.
PAO
It appears that a plan will be formulated
later on in the day and this evening by which the existing
available power coming into the Skyiab workshop will be
conserved to the greatest extent, on the assumption that
we may not be able to get the main solar panels deployed,
we'll continue to standby the remainder of the Hawaii pass,
which is a fairly low elevation angle. Coming up in a few
moments to Goldstone, in approximately 5-1/2 minutes for a
fairly lengthy stateside pass over the tracking stations in
the contintental United States. At 3 hours 5 minutes ground
elapsed time, this is Skylab Control.
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SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 15:41 CST 03:10 GET MC20/1
This is Skylab Control, 3 hours 10 minutes,
ground elapsed time. Acquisition of signal over Goldstone
Tracking Station for the second stateside pass after launch.
We'll stand by here as the data comes in for any further
developments in the situation in which the main solar panels
on the workshop apparently have not deployed.
PA0

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SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 4/14/73 15:56 CST 3:24 GET MC-21/1
PAO
This is Skylab Control. Three hours 31 min­
utes, ground elapsed time. Skylab space station presently
crossing over the combined coverage of Canary Island track­
ing station and Madrid, Spain, tracking station. Flight Controllers,
here, continuing to assess the possible effects on the
mission on the apparent nondeployment of the large solar
panels on the workshop. As the afternoon and evening
wears on, there likely will be some considerable amount
of sorting out as to what course should be taken to get
the most out of the mission. As these facts develop, as
the plans are worked out, they will be relayed on over the
circuit at 3 hours 32 minutes, ground elapsed time, with
some 5 minutes and a half remaining over Madrid. And,
standing by; this is Skylab Control.
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�SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 15:00 CST 16:10 GET 3:39 MC22/1
PAO
This is Skylab Control, 3 hours 42 minutes,
ground elapsed time. Skylab space station now over the hill
from the Canary Island tracking station. Thirty-four minutes
away from being acquired again by the Honeysuckle, Australia,
tracking station. No further resolution at this time on the
solar pnel deployment problem, which likely will affect the
course of the mission. As the planning develops, on how to
best manage the mission for the maximum return, we'll bring
these details to you on this circuit. And, at 3 hours 40 minutes,
ground elapsed time, on the mission of Skylab 1, this is
Skylab Control.
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SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 16:42 CST 4:11 GET MC-23/1
PA0
This is Skylab Control. Four hours 14 min­
utes ground elapsed time - the Skylab space station mission.
Here in the Control Center, the problems associated with
the failure of the Saturn workshop solar panels to deploy
are being discussed, at some length, by management and flight
controllers. Preliminary telemetry indications are that
there could have been a malfunction with one solar array
beam fairing and the meteroid shield, which could have led
to such anomalies. These malfunctions are indicated
to have occurred 1 minute and 3 seconds after lift-off,
based on postlaunch examination of telemetry.
The Planned 28-day mission is not possible with«„4. ^PA?
out deployment of the workshop main solar panels. Project
° lcl^ls arf considering an alternate mission using the
command service module power system to augment the limited
power supply provided by the Apollo telescope mount solar
panels aboard the workshop, through a system of managing
the two power sources for the optimum usage. An announce­
ment will be made as soon as these decisions have been
reached. The decision on such an alternate mission is
expected to be had by about 9:00 p.m. eastern daylight time,
at which time a news conference will be held at the Cape,
exPected that Skylab Program Director, Bill
cu
chnieder, will take part. We're starting to get data, now,
through the Honeysuckle, Australia tracking station. This
is a rather low elevation angle pass of little over
4 degrees, or approximately - I stand corrected, 86 degrees,
the max elevation on this particular pass, almost directly
overhead, at Honeysuckle. Almost 9 minutes remaining in
this pass across Honeysuckle station. We'll stand by on
Skylab Control circuit for the Honeysuckle, followed by
Hawaii, and the next stateside pass. At 4 hours 18 minutes
ground elapsed time, this is Skylab Control.

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�SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 15:00 CST 16:57 GET 4:26 MC24/1
PAO
This is Skylab Control at 4 hours 28 minutes
ground elapsed time, as the Skylab workshop heads across the
south-central Pacific toward the Hawaii tracking station
coming up in about 8 minutes over that station. To reiterate
what was stated before about the current situation in the
Skylab-1 mission, preliminary telemetry playback indications
are there could have been a malfunction with one solar array
beam fairing. That is the cover that is - that houses the solar
array beam before it swings outward from the workshop itself.
And the meteroid shield, which could have led to the subsequent
anomalies that have been witnessed this afternoon. And, namely,
the failure of the large solar panels to properly deploy.
The malfunction was measured to have taken place 1 minute and
3 seconds after lift-off, based on examination of the telemetry
records and tapes played back post-launch. Now, the current
posture in the mission is as follows: the planned 28-day
mission is not possible without full deployment of the solar
panels on the workshop. At the same time, all the other work­
shop systems and deployment sequences are fully nominal. Pro­
ject officials are considering an alternate mission, using the
power supply aboard the command service module to augment, or
supply additional power to the workshop, through managing of
the various electrical buses aboard. The ATM solar panels are
deployed, and are generating power. This power supply, tied
with that brought up by the command module when it docks
with the workshop, would supply power for a reduced mission.
However, an announcement will be made as soon as a decision
on how the mission will be managed. This decision on alternate
mission is expected by about 9 o'clock Eastern Daylight Time.
Our news conference at Kennedy Space Center newsroom, with
Skylab Program Director, Bill Schneider, will take place at
this time. Five minutes out from Hawaii, and at 4 hours 32
minutes, ground elapsed time. This is Skylab Control.
END OF TAPE
SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 17:12 CST 04:41 GET MC25/1
PAO
This is Skylab Control, 4 Hours 48 minutes,
ground elapsed time. Skylab space station now being tracked
by the Goldstone tracking station in the Mohave Desert,
California. No apparent change in the mission status at
this time. The large solar panels on the workshop still
undeployed. And among the considerations to be looked at
later in the evening by the Mission Director and other
members of management on the Skylab team, will be whether
or not to launch Skylab 2 on schedule tommorow, or to delay
the manned mission until some later time, after a new flight
plan for a shortened mission can be formulated and designed.
At 4 hours 49 minutes, this is Skylab Control.
END OF TAPE

�SKYLAB MISSION COMMENTARY 5/14/73 17:45 CST 05:14 GET MC26/1
PAO
This is Skylab Control, 5 hours 14 minutes,
ground elapsed time, in the mission of the Skylab space
station, presently over the Canary Island tracking station.
Some 3 minutes remaining until loss of signal, crossing
over into Ascension Island tracking station coverage. At
5 hours and 9 minutes, ground elapsed time, it was reported
that the Skylab workshop has settled down into solar inertial
attitude, that is, that the Apollo telescope mount portion
points at the Sun continuosly. To recap again the current
posture in this mission, it appears that a malfuntion
in one of the fairings covering the solar arrays on Saturn
workshop may have malfunctioned at about a minute and 3 seconds
after lift-off. Playback of the telemetry data has shown
that there was an apparent malfunction of this fairing, also,
the meteoroid shield malfunctioned at the same time. As
it stands now, the planned 28-day mission for Skylab 2,
still scheduled for launch tomorrow, at this time,
would not be possible for the full 28 days without deploy­
ment of the workshop solar panels. Skylab program officials
are looking at all of the alternate missions that would be
feasible and possible to conduct. The main guiding factor
would be the amount of electrical power available from the
fully deployed, and presently generating Apollo telescope
mount solar panels, put together with the power available
from the command service module, when it docks with the
cluster. The decision on whether to continue with a some­
what abbreviated mission tomorrow on schedule, or whether a
delay is necessary to regroup, will be made later in the
evening. Decisions on alternate missions, on an abbreviated
mission, is expected around 9:00 eastern daylight time. A
news conference with Skylab Program Manager, Bill Schneider,
is expected to take place at 9:00 o'clock eastern time at the
Kennedy Space Center newsroom. That is currently the status
in the mission of Skylab 1, the Skylab space station. And
at 5 hours 18 minutes, ground elapsed time, this is
Skylab Control.
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